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		<title>By: John Mc Allister</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/08/09/swift-boat-lies/comment-page-1/#comment-1955</link>
		<dc:creator>John Mc Allister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2004 11:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From this side of the pond what is becomming clear is that the draft dodger GWB is running scared of voulunteer JFK(2). The hysteria at Fox News is a good indicator of how the lying campaign is hurting republicans more than their intended target.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From this side of the pond what is becomming clear is that the draft dodger GWB is running scared of voulunteer JFK(2). The hysteria at Fox News is a good indicator of how the lying campaign is hurting republicans more than their intended target.</p>
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		<title>By: nick</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/08/09/swift-boat-lies/comment-page-1/#comment-1555</link>
		<dc:creator>nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2004 23:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I went to school with elmo zumwalt jr

he did not die in swift boat</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went to school with elmo zumwalt jr</p>
<p>he did not die in swift boat</p>
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		<title>By: FilthyCommie</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/08/09/swift-boat-lies/comment-page-1/#comment-1200</link>
		<dc:creator>FilthyCommie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2004 17:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;&#039;Interesting to know FC is a brit.&#039;&#039;

Im confused what this has to do with my knowledge of the military. 

&#039;&#039; I had assumed he/she was just another oblivion from an American Univ, fresh from freshman year indoctrination.&#039;&#039;

If you want to be taken seriously, then wild generalising is not the way to go about it. I could generalise you, if i really wanted but dont feel the need. If you assume that everyone who thinks ill of the Swift Vets and their dubious motives is an indoctrinated student, then theres not much i can do to get rid of your bigotry.

&#039;&#039;you are correct, however, that this individual has no conception of the military (love his attack on the swiftvets…) and a clear ignorance of history.&#039;&#039;

Sneaky eh? Care to explain how this is the case, instead of making a statement and running? Whilst im really not fussed about people making shoddy, poorly constructed attacks against me behind my back, id much rather you email me, or respond to anything you dont agree with. Im rather surprised about the news i have a &#039;&#039;clear ignorance of history.&#039;&#039; When you have a degree in American and World history, feel free to slander me without support. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221;Interesting to know FC is a brit.&#8221;</p>
<p>Im confused what this has to do with my knowledge of the military. </p>
<p>&#8221; I had assumed he/she was just another oblivion from an American Univ, fresh from freshman year indoctrination.&#8221;</p>
<p>If you want to be taken seriously, then wild generalising is not the way to go about it. I could generalise you, if i really wanted but dont feel the need. If you assume that everyone who thinks ill of the Swift Vets and their dubious motives is an indoctrinated student, then theres not much i can do to get rid of your bigotry.</p>
<p>&#8221;you are correct, however, that this individual has no conception of the military (love his attack on the swiftvets…) and a clear ignorance of history.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sneaky eh? Care to explain how this is the case, instead of making a statement and running? Whilst im really not fussed about people making shoddy, poorly constructed attacks against me behind my back, id much rather you email me, or respond to anything you dont agree with. Im rather surprised about the news i have a &#8221;clear ignorance of history.&#8221; When you have a degree in American and World history, feel free to slander me without support. <img src='http://lashawnbarber.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Tom Grey - Liberty Dad</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/08/09/swift-boat-lies/comment-page-1/#comment-1105</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Grey - Liberty Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2004 18:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kerry Lied, 2 million Died

Nice bumper sticker, no?  Or a protest sign at every Kerry event.
 
Cambodia is the important, UNFINISHED business
of America after Vietnam.
 
REAL alternatives are the issue; in Iraq, Iran, Sudan today.  
In SE Asia from 1968-1978.
 
&lt;b&gt;Killing innocents to stop evil is the moral problem.&lt;/b&gt;
 
The anti-Vietnam War Left, in America, and the EU, have totally failed to look at the two
real alternatives, and the one they &quot;really&quot; chose.
1) Stay and fight and die (draftees!) and kill bad guys AND some innocents? 
2) Leave, stop dying (good!) let evil commies win, and accept the Killing Fields.

Kerry advised (2), Nixon cut and ran, and Pol Pot, the kind of evil commie the US was fighting against, committed genocide in Cambodia (little complaint by Ford or Carter in 76-77).
 
If you ask any anti-Vietnam War protester: &quot;did you support the commies winning in Vietnam?&quot; -- they&#039;ll say NO!
But they are, in &quot;reality&quot;, lying.  This is the BIG LIE at the heart of Bush-hate.  
Opposition to war in Iraq IS &quot;really&quot; support for Saddam.

&lt;b&gt;Kerry&#039;s Big Lie was that the US leaving SE Asia was &quot;good&quot;.&lt;/b&gt;

The “Moral Superiority” of the Left is based on the assumption that being against the US war in Vietnam is the morally superior position – that the US fighting evil commies in SE Asia was wrong/ evil.

Is genocide worth fighting against? Worth dying for, worth killing for?  
Gandhi said no.  Is that really the morally superior answer?
http://tomgrey.motime.com/1092246736#322590</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kerry Lied, 2 million Died</p>
<p>Nice bumper sticker, no?  Or a protest sign at every Kerry event.</p>
<p>Cambodia is the important, UNFINISHED business<br />
of America after Vietnam.</p>
<p>REAL alternatives are the issue; in Iraq, Iran, Sudan today.<br />
In SE Asia from 1968-1978.</p>
<p><b>Killing innocents to stop evil is the moral problem.</b></p>
<p>The anti-Vietnam War Left, in America, and the EU, have totally failed to look at the two<br />
real alternatives, and the one they &#8220;really&#8221; chose.<br />
1) Stay and fight and die (draftees!) and kill bad guys AND some innocents?<br />
2) Leave, stop dying (good!) let evil commies win, and accept the Killing Fields.</p>
<p>Kerry advised (2), Nixon cut and ran, and Pol Pot, the kind of evil commie the US was fighting against, committed genocide in Cambodia (little complaint by Ford or Carter in 76-77).</p>
<p>If you ask any anti-Vietnam War protester: &#8220;did you support the commies winning in Vietnam?&#8221; &#8212; they&#8217;ll say NO!<br />
But they are, in &#8220;reality&#8221;, lying.  This is the BIG LIE at the heart of Bush-hate.<br />
Opposition to war in Iraq IS &#8220;really&#8221; support for Saddam.</p>
<p><b>Kerry&#8217;s Big Lie was that the US leaving SE Asia was &#8220;good&#8221;.</b></p>
<p>The “Moral Superiority” of the Left is based on the assumption that being against the US war in Vietnam is the morally superior position – that the US fighting evil commies in SE Asia was wrong/ evil.</p>
<p>Is genocide worth fighting against? Worth dying for, worth killing for?<br />
Gandhi said no.  Is that really the morally superior answer?<br />
<a href="http://tomgrey.motime.com/1092246736#322590" rel="nofollow">http://tomgrey.motime.com/1092246736#322590</a></p>
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		<title>By: SCSIwuzzy</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/08/09/swift-boat-lies/comment-page-1/#comment-1082</link>
		<dc:creator>SCSIwuzzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2004 16:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rae,
  I was over there yesterday.  Interesting to know FC is a brit.  I had assumed he/she was just another oblivion from an American Univ, fresh from freshman year indoctrination.
you are correct, however, that this individual has no conception of the military (love his attack on the swiftvets...) and a clear ignorance of history.
Anyway, LaShawn, Rae, keep it up.  My lunch hour has never been so good :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rae,<br />
  I was over there yesterday.  Interesting to know FC is a brit.  I had assumed he/she was just another oblivion from an American Univ, fresh from freshman year indoctrination.<br />
you are correct, however, that this individual has no conception of the military (love his attack on the swiftvets&#8230;) and a clear ignorance of history.<br />
Anyway, LaShawn, Rae, keep it up.  My lunch hour has never been so good <img src='http://lashawnbarber.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Rae</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/08/09/swift-boat-lies/comment-page-1/#comment-1048</link>
		<dc:creator>Rae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2004 09:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been having an on-going discussion with a British dissenter of the GWB presidency on my blog after posting about this.  This time around, he&#039;s using the callname &quot;Flithy Commie.&quot;  He obviously has no understanding of how the military works, either.  

I admit I think the ad has the distinct smell of politics, and I know that one of the men on the video at one time supported Kerry, but none of this negates the valid questions that these men raise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been having an on-going discussion with a British dissenter of the GWB presidency on my blog after posting about this.  This time around, he&#8217;s using the callname &#8220;Flithy Commie.&#8221;  He obviously has no understanding of how the military works, either.  </p>
<p>I admit I think the ad has the distinct smell of politics, and I know that one of the men on the video at one time supported Kerry, but none of this negates the valid questions that these men raise.</p>
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		<title>By: syn</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/08/09/swift-boat-lies/comment-page-1/#comment-1036</link>
		<dc:creator>syn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2004 03:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t help but sense that Kerry was the &#039;Michael Moore&#039; of Vietnam, he helped to generate fabricated tales in order to persuade public opinion.

The Swift Boat Veterans have the right to dispute Kerry&#039;s actions since it was Kerry who disputed their actions in Vietnam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t help but sense that Kerry was the &#8216;Michael Moore&#8217; of Vietnam, he helped to generate fabricated tales in order to persuade public opinion.</p>
<p>The Swift Boat Veterans have the right to dispute Kerry&#8217;s actions since it was Kerry who disputed their actions in Vietnam.</p>
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		<title>By: Expatlse</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/08/09/swift-boat-lies/comment-page-1/#comment-964</link>
		<dc:creator>Expatlse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2004 16:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you say so.</description>
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		<title>By: RepJ</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/08/09/swift-boat-lies/comment-page-1/#comment-963</link>
		<dc:creator>RepJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2004 15:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Expatise,

What I think Sandy meant is that we actually won the Vietnam war militarily.  After the Tet Offensive, the Vietnamese were on their knees.  We lost the war on the homefront because of the likes of Kerry.  The democrats painted Nixon into a corner and the pull out was inevitable.  We WON the Tet Offensive even if the media tried saying otherwise.  It was militarily the communist&#039;s last hurrah.  But they had an ace up their sleeve, John Kerry.  So, of course Kerry is their hero.  He helped the communist Vietnamese win the war.  There is no doubt about it and yes, his picture hangs with honor in their halls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Expatise,</p>
<p>What I think Sandy meant is that we actually won the Vietnam war militarily.  After the Tet Offensive, the Vietnamese were on their knees.  We lost the war on the homefront because of the likes of Kerry.  The democrats painted Nixon into a corner and the pull out was inevitable.  We WON the Tet Offensive even if the media tried saying otherwise.  It was militarily the communist&#8217;s last hurrah.  But they had an ace up their sleeve, John Kerry.  So, of course Kerry is their hero.  He helped the communist Vietnamese win the war.  There is no doubt about it and yes, his picture hangs with honor in their halls.</p>
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		<title>By: Blind Mind's Eye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blind Mind's Eye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2004 13:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;A window into Kerry&#039;s soul&lt;/strong&gt;
In November, I don&#039;t see any way for Kerry to win barring Bush falling on his own sword because Kerry is that bad at establishing any policy positions that can be examined and understood. In fact, I&#039;m not even sure...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>A window into Kerry&#8217;s soul</strong><br />
In November, I don&#8217;t see any way for Kerry to win barring Bush falling on his own sword because Kerry is that bad at establishing any policy positions that can be examined and understood. In fact, I&#8217;m not even sure&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Expatlse</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/08/09/swift-boat-lies/comment-page-1/#comment-960</link>
		<dc:creator>Expatlse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2004 11:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all, what does the VC liking Kerry mean.  The KKK believes that Thomas Jefferson was wonderful, but that should have no bearing on Jefferson and his legacy.

To establish the elements of the crime of treason:

(1) the defendant&#039;s intention to betray the United States, (2) manifested in an overt act, 
(3) testified to by two witnesses, 
(4) which gave aid and comfort to the enemy.

Talking to the Viet Cing is not enough.  If all four of those elements can be proven beyond reasonable doubt then of course the DOJ should bring up charges.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, what does the VC liking Kerry mean.  The KKK believes that Thomas Jefferson was wonderful, but that should have no bearing on Jefferson and his legacy.</p>
<p>To establish the elements of the crime of treason:</p>
<p>(1) the defendant&#8217;s intention to betray the United States, (2) manifested in an overt act,<br />
(3) testified to by two witnesses,<br />
(4) which gave aid and comfort to the enemy.</p>
<p>Talking to the Viet Cing is not enough.  If all four of those elements can be proven beyond reasonable doubt then of course the DOJ should bring up charges.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/08/09/swift-boat-lies/comment-page-1/#comment-955</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2004 03:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Expatise, they did talk.  Kerry&#039;s picture is framed in their &quot;hallowed hall of heroes&quot; and don&#039;t forget, he also visited with vietcong officials while still militarily obligated and &lt;b&gt;sworn&lt;/b&gt; to protect this nation, it&#039;s constitution and CIC, so help him God.  

What did he do for the vietcong that merited their honor and acclaim?  It wouldn&#039;t be that he volunteered to be their &lt;strike&gt;manchurian&lt;/strike&gt; vietcongian candidiate was it?

I have no doubt that Nixon did NOT send him there on behalf of the US, peon O-2 that he was.  Although it wouldn&#039;t surprise me if he went with teddy chappaquidick kennedy or hanoi jane&#039;s blessings.

So kerry is yet another example that treason/crime pays, at least for the Mass. boys and now gets a shot at POTUS 44.  Bleeeh.  

As far as I know, there&#039;s no statutes of limitations on treason, so I&#039;d like the DOD to bring him up on charges after the elections, unless carter somehow also pardoned him along with all of the draft dodgers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Expatise, they did talk.  Kerry&#8217;s picture is framed in their &#8220;hallowed hall of heroes&#8221; and don&#8217;t forget, he also visited with vietcong officials while still militarily obligated and <b>sworn</b> to protect this nation, it&#8217;s constitution and CIC, so help him God.  </p>
<p>What did he do for the vietcong that merited their honor and acclaim?  It wouldn&#8217;t be that he volunteered to be their <strike>manchurian</strike> vietcongian candidiate was it?</p>
<p>I have no doubt that Nixon did NOT send him there on behalf of the US, peon O-2 that he was.  Although it wouldn&#8217;t surprise me if he went with teddy chappaquidick kennedy or hanoi jane&#8217;s blessings.</p>
<p>So kerry is yet another example that treason/crime pays, at least for the Mass. boys and now gets a shot at POTUS 44.  Bleeeh.  </p>
<p>As far as I know, there&#8217;s no statutes of limitations on treason, so I&#8217;d like the DOD to bring him up on charges after the elections, unless carter somehow also pardoned him along with all of the draft dodgers.</p>
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		<title>By: Expatlse</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/08/09/swift-boat-lies/comment-page-1/#comment-953</link>
		<dc:creator>Expatlse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2004 03:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sandy:

If we want to let the winners of the war talk, we would need to know Vietnamese.  Last time I checked my history books, it was us he lost the war.  Saigon fell, remember?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sandy:</p>
<p>If we want to let the winners of the war talk, we would need to know Vietnamese.  Last time I checked my history books, it was us he lost the war.  Saigon fell, remember?</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy p</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandy p</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2004 00:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All Kerry has to do is give the Pentagon permission to release his medical records.

So far he hasn&#039;t.

How come the press doesn&#039;t demand to see those and his divorce records?

John McCain has put it aside, doesn&#039;t mean the rest of the country has.  It&#039;s finally coming to a head.  Those who were spat upon, called baby killers, etc., who actually won the war want to be heard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All Kerry has to do is give the Pentagon permission to release his medical records.</p>
<p>So far he hasn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>How come the press doesn&#8217;t demand to see those and his divorce records?</p>
<p>John McCain has put it aside, doesn&#8217;t mean the rest of the country has.  It&#8217;s finally coming to a head.  Those who were spat upon, called baby killers, etc., who actually won the war want to be heard.</p>
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		<title>By: Lark</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/08/09/swift-boat-lies/comment-page-1/#comment-950</link>
		<dc:creator>Lark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2004 00:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kerry &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; a war hero.  He&#039;s not lying about that.  It&#039;s just that he was a war hero for our &lt;u&gt;enemy&lt;/u&gt;.  I lived in Japan for 10 years during Vietnam; I visited my first cousin in an Army Rehab hospital just north of Yokosuka.  My cousin (18 yrs old) had both legs blown off by a mine while walking point.  In that rehab hospital I saw many many severely injured young men.  On base, it was a common site to see young men in casts and bandages.  

It makes me literally nauseous that Kerry even &lt;b&gt;thinks&lt;/b&gt; he should get purple hearts for the types of minor injuries he sustained.  And if he didn&#039;t believe he deserved the purple hearts, then that&#039;s even worse for accepting them, knowing he didn&#039;t deserve them.

The type of low-minded person Kerry is can be seen throughout his life, which actions have been thoroughly discussed, especially his anti-war activities and lies and the terrible effect they had on our soldiers and on this country -  and his mean-spirited and petty character is illustrated by him blaming his SS agent when he fell skiing, blamed the cameraman when he fell biking, mocked Prez Bush for taking a spill, refused to let his plane take off out of spite to delay Air Force One landing, called Bush supporters &#039;goons&#039; (picture Bush saying such a thing!).  

And now this.  After four solid years of horrendous anti-Bush rhetoric, with nary a protest or disclaimer from Kerry, he has the audacity to send his lawyers on the attack when his own self-touted central issue for qualification as POTUS is called into question by those who were there with him?

Good. More for the anti-Kerry team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kerry <i>is</i> a war hero.  He&#8217;s not lying about that.  It&#8217;s just that he was a war hero for our <u>enemy</u>.  I lived in Japan for 10 years during Vietnam; I visited my first cousin in an Army Rehab hospital just north of Yokosuka.  My cousin (18 yrs old) had both legs blown off by a mine while walking point.  In that rehab hospital I saw many many severely injured young men.  On base, it was a common site to see young men in casts and bandages.  </p>
<p>It makes me literally nauseous that Kerry even <b>thinks</b> he should get purple hearts for the types of minor injuries he sustained.  And if he didn&#8217;t believe he deserved the purple hearts, then that&#8217;s even worse for accepting them, knowing he didn&#8217;t deserve them.</p>
<p>The type of low-minded person Kerry is can be seen throughout his life, which actions have been thoroughly discussed, especially his anti-war activities and lies and the terrible effect they had on our soldiers and on this country &#8211;  and his mean-spirited and petty character is illustrated by him blaming his SS agent when he fell skiing, blamed the cameraman when he fell biking, mocked Prez Bush for taking a spill, refused to let his plane take off out of spite to delay Air Force One landing, called Bush supporters &#8216;goons&#8217; (picture Bush saying such a thing!).  </p>
<p>And now this.  After four solid years of horrendous anti-Bush rhetoric, with nary a protest or disclaimer from Kerry, he has the audacity to send his lawyers on the attack when his own self-touted central issue for qualification as POTUS is called into question by those who were there with him?</p>
<p>Good. More for the anti-Kerry team.</p>
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