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		<title>By: apu</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/08/16/barack-obama-2/comment-page-1/#comment-16903</link>
		<dc:creator>apu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2004 15:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;What&#039;s pathetic is bored, anonymous cowards trying to comment on my blog. - Admin&lt;/em&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: carolinamoon</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/08/16/barack-obama-2/comment-page-1/#comment-11046</link>
		<dc:creator>carolinamoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Nov 2004 00:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Life begins at conception.  Abortion boils down to one thing.  The sacrifice of our children to the god of convenience and not just the mother&#039;s, a few hundred dollars for an abortion gets the father out of 18 years of child support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Life begins at conception.  Abortion boils down to one thing.  The sacrifice of our children to the god of convenience and not just the mother&#8217;s, a few hundred dollars for an abortion gets the father out of 18 years of child support.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/08/16/barack-obama-2/comment-page-1/#comment-11044</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2004 23:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bruce, even so, modern science has made that particular point moot.  Have you ever seen a neo-natal ward?  It&#039;s amazing.

As for rape, for Christians, that point is moot as every soul is precious in God&#039;s eyes.  

More so, since Jesus, more appropriately, Mary, was descended from a bastard child of a prostitute.  In between, King David abused his authority to kill the husband of a woman that he lusted after.  I believe that is akin to rape in that he took what wasn&#039;t his to take, nevertheless, Solomon was born as a result of that marriage. 

I&#039;d be happy if abortions became rare and cases of convenience relagated to the history books.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bruce, even so, modern science has made that particular point moot.  Have you ever seen a neo-natal ward?  It&#8217;s amazing.</p>
<p>As for rape, for Christians, that point is moot as every soul is precious in God&#8217;s eyes.  </p>
<p>More so, since Jesus, more appropriately, Mary, was descended from a bastard child of a prostitute.  In between, King David abused his authority to kill the husband of a woman that he lusted after.  I believe that is akin to rape in that he took what wasn&#8217;t his to take, nevertheless, Solomon was born as a result of that marriage. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d be happy if abortions became rare and cases of convenience relagated to the history books.</p>
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		<title>By: selena</title>
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		<dc:creator>selena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2004 22:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its selena.....so u believe that she&#039;s really a les</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its selena&#8230;..so u believe that she&#8217;s really a les</p>
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		<title>By: La Shawn</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/08/16/barack-obama-2/comment-page-1/#comment-11007</link>
		<dc:creator>La Shawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2004 19:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that&#039;s common knowledge, Serena.</description>
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		<title>By: selena</title>
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		<dc:creator>selena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2004 19:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>by the way keyes daughter is a lesbian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>by the way keyes daughter is a lesbian.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2004 02:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have often wondered what drives otherwise decent people to participate in the sanctioned killing of a defenseless human being.  A reason that comes to mind is money.  Abortion is a billion dollar industry.  Why do you think Planned Parenthood and others promote it so heavily?  Propaganda aside, it comes down to money.  Abortion is easy money.

I find it amazing that people can so casually dehumanize a child and condone killing that child for convenience and profit.  For those espousing women&#039;s rights, how many future women have been killed in the name of &quot;rights&quot;?

In the exceedingly rare cases where the mother&#039;s health is truly in jeopardy, I can understand the case for abortion (if the fetus would not be viable).  But solely for convenience, as the vast majority of abortions are?  It leads one to question what else will be condoned in the name of convenience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have often wondered what drives otherwise decent people to participate in the sanctioned killing of a defenseless human being.  A reason that comes to mind is money.  Abortion is a billion dollar industry.  Why do you think Planned Parenthood and others promote it so heavily?  Propaganda aside, it comes down to money.  Abortion is easy money.</p>
<p>I find it amazing that people can so casually dehumanize a child and condone killing that child for convenience and profit.  For those espousing women&#8217;s rights, how many future women have been killed in the name of &#8220;rights&#8221;?</p>
<p>In the exceedingly rare cases where the mother&#8217;s health is truly in jeopardy, I can understand the case for abortion (if the fetus would not be viable).  But solely for convenience, as the vast majority of abortions are?  It leads one to question what else will be condoned in the name of convenience.</p>
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		<title>By: The Anchoress</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/08/16/barack-obama-2/comment-page-1/#comment-10785</link>
		<dc:creator>The Anchoress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2004 04:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The AMA has stated that there is never a &#039;health of the mother&#039; reason to perform a partial birth abortion.  I agree.  We&#039;re not living in the middle ages, where a midwife might (rarely) have to perform such a procedure in order to save a woman&#039;s life.

Obama is very likely going to be Hillary&#039;s running mate in &#039;08.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The AMA has stated that there is never a &#8216;health of the mother&#8217; reason to perform a partial birth abortion.  I agree.  We&#8217;re not living in the middle ages, where a midwife might (rarely) have to perform such a procedure in order to save a woman&#8217;s life.</p>
<p>Obama is very likely going to be Hillary&#8217;s running mate in &#8216;08.</p>
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		<title>By: likwidshoe</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/08/16/barack-obama-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1718</link>
		<dc:creator>likwidshoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Aug 2004 05:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jerry, you write, &lt;i&gt;I respect the views of anyone, Christian or not, who opposes abortion. But it’s an ethical issue based on individual choice...&lt;/i&gt;

Who&#039;s choice?  That&#039;s the problem we have.  (Remember: there&#039;s two or more people there and only one of them gets to make the choice of life or death.  And the one who makes the &quot;choice&quot; gets to live regardless of the final decision.)

&lt;i&gt;You’re outnumbered. Extremes in political philosophy have always been in the minority in America.&lt;/i&gt;

Opposing abortion is &quot;extreme&quot;?  You&#039;re kidding, right?

Let me give you some unsolicited advice.  Just because you&#039;re a &quot;moderate&quot;, doesn&#039;t mean you are any more of an open minded person or aren&#039;t any less &quot;extreme&quot;.  It just means you take a little from each prevailing camp of ideas.  Conservativism is just a collection of ideas.  Being for abortion and conservative usually don&#039;t go together and could possibly mean that one isn&#039;t a conservative.

When one holds many ideas and beliefs that are similar, we tend to group them to identify them easier.  It&#039;s kind of like an easy access file system for your brain.  No different than calling someone a Christian and expecting them to hold certain views.  No different than being a Japanese guy and expecting them to be have certain culture customs and beliefs.  Doesn&#039;t mean that one will toe the line to the group, it&#039;s just a general marker so the human mind can make easy distinctions.

&lt;i&gt;We “moderates” (La Shawn dislikes that term), Independents or whatever are the ones who ignore the special interest groups and cast votes on the basis of our own individual perceptions of each issue.&lt;/i&gt;

We conservatives do the same thing.  (Notice I didn&#039;t say &lt;a href=&quot;http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=partisans&quot;&gt;partisans&lt;/a&gt;.  You may be confusing someone who honestly holds conservative or liberal beliefs with someone who will change their beliefs to fit the party.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jerry, you write, <i>I respect the views of anyone, Christian or not, who opposes abortion. But it’s an ethical issue based on individual choice&#8230;</i></p>
<p>Who&#8217;s choice?  That&#8217;s the problem we have.  (Remember: there&#8217;s two or more people there and only one of them gets to make the choice of life or death.  And the one who makes the &#8220;choice&#8221; gets to live regardless of the final decision.)</p>
<p><i>You’re outnumbered. Extremes in political philosophy have always been in the minority in America.</i></p>
<p>Opposing abortion is &#8220;extreme&#8221;?  You&#8217;re kidding, right?</p>
<p>Let me give you some unsolicited advice.  Just because you&#8217;re a &#8220;moderate&#8221;, doesn&#8217;t mean you are any more of an open minded person or aren&#8217;t any less &#8220;extreme&#8221;.  It just means you take a little from each prevailing camp of ideas.  Conservativism is just a collection of ideas.  Being for abortion and conservative usually don&#8217;t go together and could possibly mean that one isn&#8217;t a conservative.</p>
<p>When one holds many ideas and beliefs that are similar, we tend to group them to identify them easier.  It&#8217;s kind of like an easy access file system for your brain.  No different than calling someone a Christian and expecting them to hold certain views.  No different than being a Japanese guy and expecting them to be have certain culture customs and beliefs.  Doesn&#8217;t mean that one will toe the line to the group, it&#8217;s just a general marker so the human mind can make easy distinctions.</p>
<p><i>We “moderates” (La Shawn dislikes that term), Independents or whatever are the ones who ignore the special interest groups and cast votes on the basis of our own individual perceptions of each issue.</i></p>
<p>We conservatives do the same thing.  (Notice I didn&#8217;t say <a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=partisans">partisans</a>.  You may be confusing someone who honestly holds conservative or liberal beliefs with someone who will change their beliefs to fit the party.)</p>
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		<title>By: DL Foster</title>
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		<dc:creator>DL Foster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Aug 2004 01:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LaShawn,
Obama is a product a member of the ultra liberal Trinity United Church of Christ, where Jeremiah Wright is the pastor. Wright is a strong advocate of homosexuality among other things.
http://www.tucc.org/home.htm
http://www.suntimes.com/special_sections/spirit/cst-nws-spirit05.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LaShawn,<br />
Obama is a product a member of the ultra liberal Trinity United Church of Christ, where Jeremiah Wright is the pastor. Wright is a strong advocate of homosexuality among other things.<br />
<a href="http://www.tucc.org/home.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.tucc.org/home.htm</a><br />
<a href="http://www.suntimes.com/special_sections/spirit/cst-nws-spirit05.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.suntimes.com/special_sections/spirit/cst-nws-spirit05.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: abraxas</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/08/16/barack-obama-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1618</link>
		<dc:creator>abraxas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2004 12:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeannie,

I agree with you whole-heartedly that every life is precious, whether they be in the womb, 1 day old, 1 year old, black, white, yellow, or brown. In many (if not most) cases of elective abortion, a bad situation is compounded by a monumental decision. Choice to kill life should not be made lightly by anyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeannie,</p>
<p>I agree with you whole-heartedly that every life is precious, whether they be in the womb, 1 day old, 1 year old, black, white, yellow, or brown. In many (if not most) cases of elective abortion, a bad situation is compounded by a monumental decision. Choice to kill life should not be made lightly by anyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeannie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeannie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2004 12:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Abraxas, my guess is that it would not be politically timely for GWB to support a full ban. Better to attack the outrageously horrific fringe first; I don&#039;t think anyone has doubts as to GWB&#039;s personal views on abortion.

Our paper, the Tampa Tribune, just ran a story the other day (can&#039;t find the link) about the youngest fetus born here. At 27 weeks, she weighed less than a can of soda. Now, as a teenager, she&#039;s an accomplished violin player, though still somewhat small of stature. I so agree, LaShawn, poor, poor babies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abraxas, my guess is that it would not be politically timely for GWB to support a full ban. Better to attack the outrageously horrific fringe first; I don&#8217;t think anyone has doubts as to GWB&#8217;s personal views on abortion.</p>
<p>Our paper, the Tampa Tribune, just ran a story the other day (can&#8217;t find the link) about the youngest fetus born here. At 27 weeks, she weighed less than a can of soda. Now, as a teenager, she&#8217;s an accomplished violin player, though still somewhat small of stature. I so agree, LaShawn, poor, poor babies.</p>
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		<title>By: abraxas</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/08/16/barack-obama-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1568</link>
		<dc:creator>abraxas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2004 13:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;&quot;It does, however, make abortion a vile and murderous event.&quot;&lt;/b&gt;

Carridine,
Most people reading this board agrees with that statment. The problem is that Bush is inconsistent in his position on aborting embryos. I don&#039;t want to get all &#039;nuanced&#039; on you, but the problem is that Bush doesn&#039;t support a full ban on killing human embryos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>&#8220;It does, however, make abortion a vile and murderous event.&#8221;</b></p>
<p>Carridine,<br />
Most people reading this board agrees with that statment. The problem is that Bush is inconsistent in his position on aborting embryos. I don&#8217;t want to get all &#8216;nuanced&#8217; on you, but the problem is that Bush doesn&#8217;t support a full ban on killing human embryos.</p>
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		<title>By: Carridine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carridine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2004 05:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the Book of Laws, revealed nearly 100 years ago by The Glory of God, (promised by Jesus of Nazareth), God tells humankind that &#039;...the rational soul is associated with its human body at the moment of conception...&#039;

Me, personally, I&#039;ve NEVER read of a fertilized human zygote developing into a dolphin or a giraffe (Woman gives birth to giraffe!), so the idea that God&#039;s Law marks humans as humans from the moment of conception is congruent with science and observed reality.

It does, however, make abortion a vile and murderous event.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the Book of Laws, revealed nearly 100 years ago by The Glory of God, (promised by Jesus of Nazareth), God tells humankind that &#8216;&#8230;the rational soul is associated with its human body at the moment of conception&#8230;&#8217;</p>
<p>Me, personally, I&#8217;ve NEVER read of a fertilized human zygote developing into a dolphin or a giraffe (Woman gives birth to giraffe!), so the idea that God&#8217;s Law marks humans as humans from the moment of conception is congruent with science and observed reality.</p>
<p>It does, however, make abortion a vile and murderous event.</p>
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		<title>By: abraxas</title>
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		<dc:creator>abraxas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2004 14:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt; most abortions are had by white women between the ages of 18-24, and usually twice or more. Sometimes up to six times&lt;/b&gt;

Neil,

It&#039;s also true that black and hispanic women between ages 15-44 are up to 3 times as likely as white women to have abortions. If you look at the latest trending reports compiled by the U.S. Census Bureau and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, this trending is going up. Rougly speaking, 5 percent of black women have abortions, 4 percent of hispanic women, and 1.5 percent of white women.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b> most abortions are had by white women between the ages of 18-24, and usually twice or more. Sometimes up to six times</b></p>
<p>Neil,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also true that black and hispanic women between ages 15-44 are up to 3 times as likely as white women to have abortions. If you look at the latest trending reports compiled by the U.S. Census Bureau and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, this trending is going up. Rougly speaking, 5 percent of black women have abortions, 4 percent of hispanic women, and 1.5 percent of white women.</p>
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