Breaking News: Bush Family Is Wealthy

by La Shawn on September 16, 2004

in Lunacy

BushThe Democratic National Committee just spent I-don’t-know-how-much money producing a video that claims George W. Bush grew up a privileged son of a privileged son.

The low-rent video, Fortunate Son, is a slam on Bush because his family is rich.

This is it, people. This is the best Democrats can do: class envy and racial strife. They don’t get any deeper than this. If you’re constantly afraid or envious or angry because someone has more stuff than you do, you’re probably a Democrat.

Although the video purports to show that Bush used his connections to avoid military service, it is nothing more than the usual class envy whining.

I stumbled across a critique of the video, and I was surprised to see it in the so-called non-partisan Capitol Hill paper, The Hill. Ben Goddard’s review is destined to become a classic and more succinct than anything I could’ve come up with. It’s my “privilege” to share it with you:

A video called “Fortunate Son” was kicked off with no small amount of fanfare. We are told it will be “played” in battleground states and backed by a grassroots operation involving veterans who will question President Bush on his National Guard service….

This video is poorly written and poorly produced. The heavy-handed “Fortunate Son” theme that plays throughout has all the finesse of the Swift boat ads without the tenuous veneer of credibility that group was able to eke out of the angry vets….

It is common knowledge that Bush is, indeed, a fortunate son. He was born to wealth and power. He nearly squandered all that until, at midlife, he learned how to leverage his personality with his inheritance. So, what’s the point? Americans know that about Bush and has, by and large, decided they can live with it…

The inept use of music that doesn’t seem to relate to the visuals, the tortured script and the cheesy delivery of the lines completely undermine the message of this ill-conceived, badly executed video hatchet job. It might as well have a flashing billboard reading “Warning! Bad Political Attack Ad to Follow” to open the piece.

This article is better than the video, but it’s apparently the best George Soros’s money could buy. Money can’t buy class.

Since liberals are always giving me advice, I have some for them: Don’t hate people because they’re rich (or beautiful). Even if their fortunes were inherited from idiot son to idiot son, it is bad form to envy people in a higher tax bracket than you are. It’s not your business, so take care of your own.

I’m so glad my parents taught me not to covet my neighbors’ stuff. I’d love to have enough money to quit my job and do freelance writing only when I wanted to. In other words, I could really use a trust fund, but that’s not my reality.

Don’t let John Kerry convince you that wealthy people owe you some of their money. They don’t. As far as I’m concerned, they can use it as kindling for a campfire.

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Tex the Pontificator
09.16.04 at 6:05 pm

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Laura 09.16.04 at 1:17 pm

If John Kerry really thought that wealthy people owed the rest of us some of their money, he could shake some of his loose.

It’s like Teresa whining about children in poverty. She could sell one of her FIVE multi-million dollar mansions and alleviate a lot of that, any time she wants to. Instead she wants to take more money from my wallet.

Juliette 09.16.04 at 1:33 pm

Do you recognize the voice of the narrator?

Montie 09.16.04 at 1:37 pm

Juliete,

Sorry, don’t recognize it. The voice has a familiar sound to it but I just can’t place it. Please tell us.

Cabel 09.16.04 at 1:41 pm

The whole thing loses any credibility when I see Dan Blather’s face! Hasn’t he been fired yet!

Shayne White 09.16.04 at 1:47 pm

Liberals are so stupid that they can’t even figure out what they want. They really should love rich people. Rich people pay a majority of taxes that funds all their socialist programs. You’d expect them to be grateful.

John C James III 09.16.04 at 2:23 pm

Hold up. Aren’t Kerry and Edwards (you know – the guy who’s running with Kerry) rich?

Are we to distinguish between HOW they got their wealth? Hmmmm is it better to Inherit you wealth from mom and dad or to MARRY into wealth that was married into? Hmmmmmmm

John C James III 09.16.04 at 2:23 pm

Hold up. Aren’t Kerry and Edwards (you know – the guy who’s running with Kerry) rich?

Are we to distinguish between HOW they got their wealth? Hmmmm is it better to Inherit you wealth from mom and dad or to MARRY into wealth that was married into? Hmmmmmmm

difrench 09.16.04 at 2:35 pm

My comment is the same as everyone else — that this is a classic case of kettle slander by the proverbial pot….Maybe they really believe Michael Moore and think that American’s are idiots. Bush hasn’t anywhere near the wealth of Kerry — but if I’m not mistaken he paid higher taxes and made more charitable contributions.

Still the issue isn’t whether he was born fortunate. It’s not even that he made a mess of his early years but was able through the grace of God to realize a complete turn around of his life. The issue is who is best able to run the country at this time which makes all other questions completely moot.

Omar 09.16.04 at 3:11 pm

‘This is it, people. This is the best Democrats can do: class envy and racial strife.’

Similiar to how Republicans attack Kerry’s wife for being rich.

‘Although the video purports to show that Bush used his connections to avoid military service……’

‘Nuff said. The video doesnt attack Bush for being rich, it attacks him for using his status poorly.

nobody important 09.16.04 at 3:15 pm

Liberals are not concerned about how much they contribute to the common welfare, they are concerned about how much you contribute to the common welfare. And they want government to enforce this caring.

Kerry and his fellow travellers in Massachusetts (my wonderful home that I would never leave) have had a great opportunity to disprove my thesis: on the Massachusetts Department of Revenue Form 1 (state tax return) there is a checkbox that, if checked, would calculate your tax at 5.85% rate as opposed to the 5.3% rate. This is entirely voluntary. Out of a tax base of at least 3 million, only a few hundred people elect to pay at the higher rate.

In the land of the most caring of liberals only a handful, mostly lower income individuals, elect to put their money where their mouth is. And Kerry is not one of those few compassionate souls.

LB 09.16.04 at 3:16 pm

They don’t attack her for being rich; they attack her for being a rich hypocrite who wants her husband to convince us that taxpayers should subsidize other people’s healthcare, among other things. It’s not the money. She can do whatever she wants with hers.

I don’t want her husband taking mine and giving it to “the poor.”

And if you noticed, I used the word “purports”, which indicates a false appearance of doing or claiming something. The video is purportedly an attack on his service, but it is an attack on his family’s privilege.

Omar 09.16.04 at 3:26 pm

‘They don’t attack her for being rich; they attack her for being a rich hypocrite’

How is she a hypocrite? Shes a hypocrite for being rich and advocating advances in America’s healthcare system?

‘And if you noticed, I used the word “purports”, which indicates a false appearance of doing or claiming something.’

Ok,using your logic here….. Venom against Teresa Heinz Kerry is purportedly about her hypocrisy, but REALLY an attack on her family’s privilege.

James Lamb, Jr. 09.16.04 at 3:34 pm

The video is a shrill attempt to remind voters that Pres. Bush, as a young man, used his connections to avoid service in Vietnam. Voters already know that. I too would rather the DNC spend money discussing the abyssmal American economy. Pres. Bush’s policies have cost this nation jobs. That’s the only domestic record of any importance the DNC should speak on.

And by the way, Republicans attack Teresa Kerry for being rich, outspoken, and female. It’s not her so-called hypocrisy; liberals have every right to question publically the centralization of wealth and power when that wealth and power emerges from the oppression of other groups. When corporate executives make millions while middle-class workers are laid off without adquate healthcare because their jobs have been outsourced to India, liberals have a right to question the system.

The DNC needs to remember that and spend money on ads discussing Pres. Bush’s depressing economic record instead of his possible Nat’l Guard service. He can’t explain lapses of judgement in either period of his life, but at least the domestic record is more current.

Montie 09.16.04 at 3:36 pm

OK Omar,
Both Kerry and Bush attended prestigious Ivy League Universities (at overlapping times no less), so both were, shall we say, not of the working class.

Both applied for deferment, and when it looked like they were going to be drafted, both applied for and got into the reserves (Bush, the Texas Air National Guard, Kerry, the U.S. Naval Reserve). Now, admittedly it was hard to get into the reserves for any branch of the military, but particularly the Air Force and Navy. Yet, both got in.

Being in a reserve component is no guarantee of not going to war as we have seen in every war in the 20th, and now 21st centuries. Kerry’s unit was activated, Bush’s was not.

Bush spent 2 years active duty in training before returning to Texas. Upon returning he logged 4 or 5 times the amount of flight hour points required to fulfill his obligation to the TexANG, which is why that in spite of not flying his last several months, he got an Honorable Discharge.

Bush probably got extra consideration to enable him to get in the Air Guard. So what. Kerry undoubtedly got the same in order to get into the Navy Reserve. Or it could have been that they were both leapfrogged because they were graduates of prestigious universities. Who really knows?
In the same time and place I might have used every advantage available to me. So would a large percentage of people, MOST ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO CRITICIZE HIM FOR IT, among whom the percentage would no doubt have been 100%.

I personally don’t attack Kerry’s wife for being rich, I just think she should put her own money up before she digs into mine. If she see’s a social problem that can be fixed by money, then let her do so instead of whining about getting more of my meager check. By the way, she inherited her wealth from her late REPUBLICAN husband.

Omar 09.16.04 at 3:54 pm

‘Bush spent 2 years active duty in training before returning to Texas.’

Bush frequently failed to even turn up for duty. His family’s status made sure this went by largely unpunished. He also requested a discharge, something Republicans (im not suggesting you do/have) have attacked Kerry for.

‘I just think she should put her own money up before she digs into mine.’

Come now, thats pretty irrational. Thats like saying maybe Bush should fund Israel’s defense program, and the war in Iraq with his own cash dollars, instead of using the American tax payers.

‘By the way, she inherited her wealth from her late REPUBLICAN husband.’

I know this, but so what? Teresa still worked, she wasnt some gold digger. She was a UN translator while married to this filthy rich guy.

LawWife 09.16.04 at 4:41 pm

“Bush frequently failed to even turn up for duty.”

Citations, please. I want records, not innuendo. I want actual data and not commentary. And if it looks like it was typed by Killian, that won’t cut it, either. Find me on-the-record statements by fellow Reservists that then Lt. Bush did this.

Renee 09.16.04 at 4:43 pm

Remember everyone…
Omar was there. He was in Cambodia with Kerry and somewhere in the USA with Bush. So he knows who did what to whom.

You gotta love it.

caltechgirl 09.16.04 at 5:47 pm

According to (yeah, I know this is lame) VH1’s election special, GWB’s personal fortune os about $15 million, and John Kerry’s personal fortune is more like $ 4 billion (counting Theresa’s $$$)

It’s kind of difficult to run for president successfully in this day and age without a substantial personal fortune, for a large number of reasons, including that you need a nest egg to get started.

Sandy P 09.16.04 at 5:51 pm

Omar could also tell us how TANG worked back then and now.

James Lamb, have you been following Canada’s vaunted health care?

Read Colby Cosh’s latest.

Just because you don’t have insurance doesn’t mean you don’t have health care.

And some choose not to, like those 20-30 somethings making $50K and above. Are you going to force them to buy something they don’t want to at that point in their lives?

Don’t they get a choice?

Omar 09.16.04 at 6:02 pm

http://www.awolbush.com/

This site, although undenialbly slanted provides a LOT of important facts….including laws regarding AWOL/desertion, Bush’s records from the time, and a list of the records that Bush hasnt released.

‘Find me on-the-record statements by fellow Reservists that then Lt. Bush did this. ‘

Sure, feel free to check out the ‘Texans for truth’ whose ad is linked from the site.

Now im gonna watch as people fail to provide a counter to the allegations, and instead attack my provided source. Gotta love it.

‘Omar was there. He was in Cambodia with Kerry and somewhere in the USA with Bush. So he knows who did what to whom’

Let me ask you this. Did YOU serve with either of this men? If not, you are insulting yourself, and anyone else who comments about the mens respective service records.

Mark Slater 09.16.04 at 6:06 pm

The Bush family is of the upper crust of society, But so was Gore (thank you, Armand Hammer) Kennedy (thank you, Joseph). Bill Clinton, for all his faults, was a self-made man — proving that such a thing is possible (but I sure wouldn’t want him back, either as himself or in Hillary guise).

Omar 09.16.04 at 6:09 pm

http://www.awolbush.com/

This site, although undenialbly slanted provides a lot of important facts….including the laws for desertion/AWOL, Bush’s records and letters from commanders, and a list of the records Bush wont release. Oh, and not to mention a link to the ‘Texans for truth’ ad (just for you LawWife)

Im now gonna sit back as people fail to provide a counter argument to these allegations, and instead dismiss my provided source. Gotta love it.

‘Omar was there. He was in Cambodia with Kerry and somewhere in the USA with Bush. So he knows who did what to whom. ‘

Let me ask you this. Did YOU serve with either of these men? Either way, you are basiacally suggesting that unless you served with them, you dont have a right to comment.

La Shawn 09.16.04 at 6:10 pm

Omar – Please submit comment ONCE only. Posts with links are moderated because of spam. They require my approval before posting.

Mark Slater 09.16.04 at 6:14 pm

At least we have a scintilla of a real political concern with this post and thread (no disrespect intended toward Miss Barber).

The problem with health care is who is going to pay in our collectivist state. Kerry, as some have pointed out, has made it clear that the solution is to expand said state, which makes him unpalatable to me and acceptable to Omar and a few other visitors to the ‘corner.

Unfortunately, Bush seems to be not far behind in this regard, particularly when it comes to health care.

[sigh] I think I’ll go over to JWR and Walter Williams for some renewal of purpose.

noah 09.16.04 at 6:49 pm

Omar is back, with his UCS Santa Barbara (non-existent school) general-education-debate-class style, mixed with a “punk” attitude that selectively responds sentence-by-sentence those points that he can come up with a liberal line or two on. I really hope that your college exchange program will karry(oops, i mean carry) you through the next four years here in United States under another President Bush administration. Remember to study hard in UCS.

adrian 09.16.04 at 6:57 pm

Bush is the child of privilege. So, too, is John Kerry. Bush may or may not have pulled strings, or had strings pulled for him, to make military service easier for him. If he did so, this may be regrettable, but it has very little to do with his fitness for the presidency. Apparently, John Kerry did the same thing. So what?

What bothers me about this video (which I have not seen) is that it suggests that party strategists (on both sides) think that the “American people” want to watch the candidates/parties exchange ad hominem attacks, rather than arguments about real issues.

Of course, it may be that the “American people” really do want that. If so, then they—we—are aiding and abetting the growth of what you might call “soft totalitarianism.” Should I be keeping my fingers crossed?

Adrian

Omar 09.16.04 at 7:22 pm

What is your problem Noah? Are you obsessed with me or something?

Noah is back, making a fool of himself by trying to make poorly planned personal attacks against me. Tough guy Noah.

‘Omar is back, with his UCS Santa Barbara (non-existent school)’

When you said ’school’ im sure you MEANT to put ‘university,’ right? Do you know the difference?Univeristy of California System Santa Barbara. Id link you to the site of this ‘non-existant school,’ but posts with links are rightfully checked. Maybe you could find it yourself, eh?

‘mixed with a “punk” attitude that selectively responds sentence-by-sentence those points that he can come up with a liberal line or two on.’

Always bringing that up. Im not a punk. You dont know me. Give it a rest. I respond in this manner so i can take every point head on. It makes for easier responding. I dont see what relevance ‘punk’ has to this.

‘…….you through the next four years here in United States under another President Bush administration.’

Cant wait. I especially cant wait to be targetted by racial profiling, which is happening right now. Who knows what another 4 years of Bush will hold? Maybe i should become an American citizen just to make you angry Noah. Liberals dont deserve the privilege, right? Washington, Jefferson, Madison, Hamilton and all those other liberal losers didnt deserve it either.

Mark Slater 09.16.04 at 7:24 pm

AMEN Adrian! And well put.

Juliette 09.16.04 at 7:32 pm

Montie: In case someone hasn’t mentioned it already, the narrator sounds a whole lot like Dan Rather.

LawWife 09.16.04 at 7:35 pm

How ’bout spin-free facts? This is from an article in The Hill, written by Byron York and published 9/9/04.

The future president joined the Guard in May 1968. Almost immediately, he began an extended period of training. Six weeks of basic training. Fifty-three weeks of flight training. Twenty-one weeks of fighter-interceptor training.

That was 80 weeks to begin with, and there were other training periods thrown in as well. It was full-time work. By the time it was over, Bush had served nearly two years.

Not two years of weekends. Two years.

After training, Bush kept flying, racking up hundreds of hours in F-102 jets. As he did, he accumulated points toward his National Guard service requirements. At the time, guardsmen were required to accumulate a minimum of 50 points to meet their yearly obligation.

According to records released earlier this year, Bush earned 253 points in his first year, May 1968 to May 1969 (since he joined in May 1968, his service thereafter was measured on a May-to-May basis).

Bush earned 340 points in 1969-1970. He earned 137 points in 1970-1971. And he earned 112 points in 1971-1972. The numbers indicate that in his first four years, Bush not only showed up, he showed up a lot. Did you know that?

That brings the story to May 1972 — the time that has been the focus of so many news reports — when Bush “deserted” (according to anti-Bush filmmaker Michael Moore) or went “AWOL” (according to Terry McAuliffe, chairman of the Democratic National Committee).

Bush asked for permission to go to Alabama to work on a Senate campaign. His superior officers said OK. Requests like that weren’t unusual, says retired Col. William Campenni, who flew with Bush in 1970 and 1971.

“In 1972, there was an enormous glut of pilots,” Campenni says. “The Vietnam War was winding down, and the Air Force was putting pilots in desk jobs. In ’72 or ’73, if you were a pilot, active or Guard, and you had an obligation and wanted to get out, no problem. In fact, you were helping them solve their problem.”

So Bush stopped flying. From May 1972 to May 1973, he earned just 56 points — not much, but enough to meet his requirement.

Then, in 1973, as Bush made plans to leave the Guard and go to Harvard Business School, he again started showing up frequently.

In June and July of 1973, he accumulated 56 points, enough to meet the minimum requirement for the 1973-1974 year.

Then, at his request, he was given permission to go. Bush received an honorable discharge after serving five years, four months and five days of his original six-year commitment. By that time, however, he had accumulated enough points in each year to cover six years of service.

During his service, Bush received high marks as a pilot.

A 1970 evaluation said Bush “clearly stands out as a top notch fighter interceptor pilot” and was “a natural leader whom his contemporaries look to for leadership.”

A 1971 evaluation called Bush “an exceptionally fine young officer and pilot” who “continually flies intercept missions with the unit to increase his proficiency even further.” And a 1972 evaluation called Bush “an exceptional fighter interceptor pilot and officer.”

Sorry to take up so much space, LaShawn. Ok, I’m not really sorry. ;o)

La Shawn 09.16.04 at 7:37 pm

NO PERSONAL ATTACKS!

Juliette 09.16.04 at 7:44 pm

Omar
“Bush frequently failed to even turn up for duty. His family’s status made sure this went by largely unpunished. He also requested a discharge, something Republicans (im not suggesting you do/have) have attacked Kerry for.”

Please learn something about the Guard/Reserves before you pontificate on its rules. Don’t fall into the same trap in which the mainstream media find themselves. When on misses duty for a month in the Guard/Reserves–amounting to two days–it’s not punished, it’s made up later.

Additionally, when an AF service member’s AFSC (job) is being down-sized or deleted–recall that the F-102 was being deleted from the AF inventory–the AF gives the service member a choice: re-train or early out.

I don’t recall Senator Kerry being criticized for requesting a total discharge from the Navy Reserves. I do however recall him being criticized for his request to *leave Vietnam* in the wake of his third purple heart. IIRC, he became an admiral’s aid after that.

adrian 09.16.04 at 8:13 pm

Dear LawWife—thanks for the article from The Hill. Informative. I live on Capitol Hill and see the magazine in coffee shops. Maybe I should give it a look.
Adrian

Phil Dillon 09.16.04 at 9:07 pm

The reason I left my Democratic Party roots in Massachusetts was because of the class warfare they engaged in, pitting the “poor and opressed against the rich.” It took me painful time to see that they had nothing constructive to say. They always beat that tin drum – redistribution of wealth – to attempt to prove that they care. But I can say from personal, painful experience that their politics does nothing but turn people into serfs beholden to them.

Men like F.A. Hayek (the Road to Serfdom) warned us that these misguided attempts to redistribute wealth and engage in class warfare inevitably lead to a socialist state.

The Deomcratic Party has been trying to take us there since LBJ. Thank God most Americans are smart enough to see through that.

Andy 09.16.04 at 9:48 pm

Omar, like I mentioned a while back, instead of spewing know-nothing talking points verbatim from annonymous/dubious sources, why don’t you take some time to know some real live veterans and find out 1st hand for yourself. You state that you’re in Cali, so go talk to some CANG vets–in case you’re unaware, every State had their own ANG, no need to travel to TX.

As for threatening to become a US citizen, go ahead, the moonbats can use all the help they can get, since recruiting felons, illegals, seniles and the dead obviously ain’t helping much. One more liberal immigrant won’t hurt. My hope is that you’ll get mugged by reality in the intervening years before you qualify for citizenship — unless of course you have the juice to bypass the usual requirements.

With regards to Heinz-Kerry Marie Antoinette, she is just another oblivious idiot made dangerous by the money she has to burn. How else to explain her ‘Let them run around naked’ comment to volunteers preparing relief-aid packages for hurricane victims in the Carribeans.

If she was that concerned about water and generators, then why can’t she can go seed her own relief organization? Oh yeah, that’s right, she needs her money to support the liberal agenda. Nope, since she’s so smart — she can speak 5 languages, 3 of which are closely related — she figures her role is to offer unsolicited suggestions to the dumb workers.

I’m sure she just won over more supporters with that crowd. No wonder everytime she and her gigolo speak, their ratings take another hit. At the current rate, GWB is fixing to blow by RWR’s popular/electoral record.

With regards to the comments about the rich and their tax burden, of course they’re not paying enough, when compared to the UK. And the economy still sucks o’er there. Nothing like sharing the misery, eh?

noah 09.16.04 at 10:14 pm

Omar, I have no personal beef with you. Even if you personally think that I am more foolish than you are. Nor would your becoming a citizen upset me in anyway. There seem to be much more important things happening in the world for me to think about than your citizenship of choice. Omar, if you come to our country with respect and adherence to our laws, and gain for American citizenship legally, you are welcomed. However, from the tone, the attitude, and the talking points in your posts, YOU are and would be the angry one hating it here if you become citizen with President George W. Bush as YOUR new President for the next four years. (And John Ashcroft as YOUR new Attorney General)

Sandy P 09.16.04 at 10:16 pm

So, Omar, does your vaunted link tell you how TNG worked in the 60s and 70s? Or now?

Sandy P 09.16.04 at 10:17 pm

Oh, Omar, the F-102 wasn’t called “The Widowmaker” for nothing.

Underpowered Korea-ear crap. Look thru ChicagoBoyz recent archives.

Anne Lieberman 09.16.04 at 10:25 pm

The question is, Why does the DNC want us all to be talking about Bush’s family and the Vietnam war — instead of Kerry’s policy proposals???

5thSister 09.16.04 at 10:33 pm

Anne,
Kerry HAS proposals?!?
Oh, that was you point… :)

RepJ 09.16.04 at 11:01 pm

Did you know that JKerry used to go out on the Kennedy’s yacht with JFK way back when? It was decided long long ago that John Kerry would be a senator and run for president. And people complain about Bush???

Mark Slater 09.16.04 at 11:23 pm

Noah: Not me! I think this nation has enough liberals and lefties without letting more in; and even some Republicans I’m not altogether sure about.

5th Sister: The only “proposals” I hear from the Kerry Kamp is 1) Repeal of the tax cuts — “tax breaks for the wealthy” it is called. 2) Greater role for the U.N. in the War in Iraq.

He also blusters on about health care, without really making a cogent proposal, so I won’t include it.

bob 09.16.04 at 11:36 pm

LaShawn, when you say no personal attacks, you also mean that Teresa should not be referred to as Marie Antoinette, right?

Kevin 09.17.04 at 12:09 am

If Marie Antoinette posted here, all of us sincerely apologize to her for any personal attack that compares her to Teresa Heintz Kerry.

noah 09.17.04 at 1:06 am

Omar, are you still here?

noah 09.17.04 at 1:08 am

Warning: unsubstantial personal, but FRIENDLY, reply message to Omar ahead. (Just for fun. Plus I think he is waiting for me. Can’t let him down.)

Just to show you how much of a fool that a conservative Republican that I am.

“What is your problem Noah? Are you obsessed with me or something?”

No, I just like all leftist liberals, especially if they are foreign. So sexy. Am I foolish to have such sentiments, Omar?

“Noah is back, making a fool of himself by trying to make poorly planned personal attacks against me. Tough guy Noah.”

I am a tough fool. And I’m not even from Texas.

“When you said ’school’ im sure you MEANT to put ‘university,’ right? Do you know the difference?”

No, not really. I have always thought that universities are – schools. How foolish I am.

“Univeristy of California System Santa Barbara. Id link you to the site of this ‘non-existant school,’ but posts with links are rightfully checked. Maybe you could find it yourself, eh?”

Oh, you mean UCSB, aka UC Santa Barbara. See, gotta watch the details. I live and was educated in California. And everyone I know mentions the University of California schools by UC (city), not UCS. I was thrown off by the “S”. My bad. And let’s just say I spent some good years at your sister school UC Berkeley. But what do I know. Foolish me.

“Always bringing that up. Im not a punk. You dont know me. Give it a rest.”

I never said that YOU ARE a punk. I meant your attitude, especially considering your legal status. Plus I was borrowing the descriptive word from another poster. But don’t feel bad, you have already crowned me in return with a better title: a fool.

noah 09.17.04 at 1:09 am

“I respond in this manner so i can take every point head on. It makes for easier responding.”

There is nothing wrong with your sentence-by-sentence manner of response. It is just that you are very selective in what to respond. Your respond sentence-by-sentence the easy ones, while bouncing off the hard with readily made unimaginative liberal talking points. There are no hard researched facts or original thoughts in your selective sentence-by-sentence responses. But then I’m such a fool that I don’t know how to do the same.

“Cant wait. I especially cant wait to be targetted by racial profiling, which is happening right now. Who knows what another 4 years of Bush will hold?”

Then let me ask you again, why do you desire to become a citizen here? Being targeted by racial profiling, and living in “hell”(as quoted by the sweet T.H. Kerry) for four more years under President Bush, I would think that one would want to make a home in France, or Canada instead. But then I guess I’m just too much of a fool to understand.

noah 09.17.04 at 1:10 am

“Maybe i should become an American citizen just to make you angry Noah.”

Oh, please don’t make me angry. You would so burst my bubble. I would hate to have to get back on my Prozac again. I hope you don’t become citizen to spite me. That would even make you a fool by placing such importance in me.

noah 09.17.04 at 1:12 am

“Liberals dont deserve the privilege, right? Washington, Jefferson, Madison, Hamilton and all those other liberal losers didnt deserve it either.”
Which privilege is that? The racial profiling or becoming citizens to make noah angry? And let me add a few more real Democrat names to your list: FDR, JFK(the real one), Ed Koch, Dick Morris, Zell Miller. They are quite a different species(huge understatement) from the present day top gun liberal elite democrat leaders like al gore, ted kennedy, tom daschle, john kerry, john edwards, howard dean, jesse jackson, al sharpton, julian bond, etc. But perhaps to you, those other old school Democrats are so weak and tame and lame and foolish, especially the names I’ve added, that they might as well be Republicans.

noah 09.17.04 at 1:30 am

And let me add a few more real Democrat names to your list: FDR, JFK(the real one), Ed Koch, Dick Morris, Zell Miller. They are quite a different species from the present day top gun liberal elite democrat leaders like al gore, ted kennedy, tom daschle, john kerry, john edwards, howard dean, jesse jackson, al sharpton, julian bond, etc. But perhaps to you those other old school Democrats are so weak and tame and lame and foolish, especially the ones I added, that they might as well be Republicans.

Foolish? I am. Nonetheless, welcome to (BUSH) America! Enjoy with a grimace.

ThaSickness 09.17.04 at 2:25 am

All of this “Bush didn’t serve!” business is because the majority of the Left would rather see George W. Bush’s name written on the Vietnam Wall Memorial rather than in the history books as one of the greatest presidents of our lifetime, and it’s utterly dispicable.

Andy 09.17.04 at 2:55 am

Bob, emphases are mine

Marie Antoinette (me-rê´ àn´twe-nèt´) 1755-1793.
Queen consort of Louis XVI of France; her unpopularity helped discredit the monarchy in the period before the French Revolution (1789-1799). Antoinette was born in Vienna, one of the daughters of Holy Roman Emperor Francis I and Empress Maria Theresa. Her 1770 marriage to Louis, the heir to the French throne, was intended to cement an alliance between France and the Habsburgs of Austria. She was disliked by the French as a foreigner and because of her extravagance and devotion to Austria. After the outbreak of the revolution, Marie and Louis tried to escape from Paris with their surviving son in 1791, but they were captured and brought back prisoners. In 1792 the monarchy was overthrown. Sentenced to death for treason, Antoinette was guillotined in 1793.

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(th-rey-za) Thierstein Simões-Ferreira Heinz-Kerry, born 5 October 1938
Not much has been made of her priveleged background, beyond being born and raised in Mozambique (in those days, a brutal colonial equivalent of antebellum Southern white-owned plantations, hence the marxist revolution to expel the foreign capitalist carpetbaggers in the 70’s). And we know about her
marriages to not one but two fortunate sons, thereby gaining a global enterprise that became even more profitable by outsources jobs, and a rapidly dwindling shot at becoming Queen of France USA.

Famous Quotes
Antoinette at age 11: “Let them eat cake if there is no bread” when informed about the famine of 1766. 3 years later, she introduces the French to Kipfels, a Vienese pastry now known as the French croissant. This could be charitably excused as youthful ignorance–what’s that adage about youthful heart and doodering fool?

Heinz-Kerry at age 65: “Clothing is wonderful, but let them go naked for a while, at least the kids. Water is necessary, and then generators, and then food, and then clothes.”
1)Considering that her father specialized in tropical diseases, I guess she failed miserably to make the connection between natural disasters and diseases. Clothing provides a layer of protection from the filth and infectious pestilence that follows flooding. Cut yourself while traipsing around naked and you’re gonna get infected.
2)Sterilized water can be had simply by boiling. Or was she thinking that the relief agencies should ship containerloads of Perrier?
3)Containerloads of generators for a 3rd world island, where the majority of the population live in shanties and electricity isn’t quite the commodity that we take for granted. Or was she only thinking of her kindred fortunate ones ruined by the storm? Hey Theresa! Who asked you for your admonition? Furthermore, not to impugn the innocent victims, but one simply doesn’t look a gift horse in the mouth.

As for other quoteable quotes, google them yourself, I’m done. Altho we readily excoriate her & JFK, we’re hardly going to execute her. On the otherhand for JFK, last I heard, treason was still a capital offense if convicted.

Conclusion: MTA = MTTSFHK

Andy 09.17.04 at 3:18 am

BTW, Marie Antoinette II said the “let them be naked” bit when she stopped by with donations from the campaign of hubby, JFK II.

Heinz Kerry stopped by a market in the heart of Brooklyn’s Caribbean community, where she spoke French with Haitian vendors and shook hands with volunteers busy packing food, clothes and other relief supplies to be shipped to several Carribean islands hit by Hurricane Ivan. Her husband’s campaign donated water, blankets and first aid kits.

“I think it’s important we help all the kids we can,” Heinz Kerry said.

Note, no mention made of any disaster relief donations coming from her foundations which are more concerned with donating abortion clinics in 3rd world countries. Perhaps her comments was a post-birth abortion Freudian slip? Help the bottom-class kids by winnowing their mass?

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