Comments on: Irreverent Reverends, Part II

By: Melinda Burns

Melinda Burns — Mon, 27 Sep 2004 14:21:32 +0000

I love the article!! My sixteen year old daughter is pregnant. She is due Nov. 17th. She is giving the baby up for adoption. Her boyfriend (the father) wanted her to have an abortion. Because she would have to have mine and her father’s permission they couldn’t do it. For I know when life starts. Her boyfriend was trying to convince me that it wasn’t life. I wish they could start showing in school what it is really like to have an abortion. It appalls me that a minister of ANY color would choose to ignore the Bible and its teaching. And what about the very thing planned parenthood and its founders stand for, as a pastor of any christian church to condone this awful institution is blasphemy!
Melinda Burns

By: Watcher of Weasels

Watcher of Weasels — Fri, 24 Sep 2004 06:11:19 +0000

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By: ~Neophyte Pundit~

~Neophyte Pundit~ — Wed, 22 Sep 2004 12:59:07 +0000

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By: Jim R

Jim R — Wed, 22 Sep 2004 02:48:35 +0000

Before you were conceived I wanted you

Before you were born I loved you

Before you were here an hour I would die for you

This is the miracle of life.

-Maureen Hawkins

By: Andy

Andy — Tue, 21 Sep 2004 17:45:10 +0000

Mary/La Shawn, another source with an extensive list of Sanger/Planned Parenthood quotes and scanned images of actual newsletters/pamphlets from her days can be found at klannedparenthood.com

As for the gruesomeness of these “surgical procedures, check out abortionno.org — note, brace yourself if you’re the queasy type. Some of the images are absolutely seared, seared in my mind now (no pun intended).

I think, short of an outright ban–highly unlikely in this day & age, there ought to be a law that before anyone gets an abortion, they must be required to watch a 1-hour video presentation. If they still want to go ahead, so be it, but at least the outcome will be to make abortions rare.

Likewise, if sex-ed is to remain part of the curriculm, kids must also watch the videos, begining at 5th or 6th grade. I know it sounds harsh, but if we can sear those images into their young/impressionable minds before they become sexually active, it will also cause them to think long and hard about their actions and the consequences thereof. This will go far to undermine the “free sex” meme and the peer pressure of “giving it up”.

By: LC Steve

LC Steve — Tue, 21 Sep 2004 15:15:17 +0000

Thank you, Ms. Barber. A very well written, well reasoned article, the more so because it echoes my feelings. Yes, I’m male, and I think abortion is wrong, no ifs, ands or buts about it. My wife and I have been taking care of critically ill infants for years now, and it’s amazing how a little love and care will turn a sick baby around to a healthy child. We’ve also adopted three boys (all born sick, but you wouldn’t know it now) and are now adopting a little girl with a list of medical problems as long as your arm. However, the wife and I know that with God’s help, we will be able to help her and hopefully she’ll grow up to be a productive person one day. Of course, she’s cute as a button, so that helps! (Yes, I know, Daddy’s little girl. What can I say?)

Keep up the good work, Ms. Barber. You are definitely going to my “must read daily” list. God bless you.

By: Mary

Mary — Mon, 20 Sep 2004 21:28:00 +0000

Thank you, La Shawn

By: Pat in NC

Pat in NC — Mon, 20 Sep 2004 20:18:55 +0000

Nikki, I can’t vouch for all black babies but as a nurse I have seen very light skinned babies who had very dark skinned parents. The only visual difference between these babies and those of white parents might be very curly, silky hair. I think black moms can tell you more because my experience working in a nursery is many years ago.
A fetus aborted in the early terms of pregnancy has no skin color. The skin is still very thin and lacks a fatty underlayer so it looks blue form the blood vessels clearly apparent.

By: LB

LB — Mon, 20 Sep 2004 20:18:22 +0000

Mary – I’ve added a link under “Update.”

By: Mary

Mary — Mon, 20 Sep 2004 18:56:54 +0000

I never heard those quotes from Margaret Sanger before. I am astonished. Do you have a source for them so that I can back it up when I use this material? Thank you.

By: lauraw

lauraw — Mon, 20 Sep 2004 17:24:45 +0000

I used to be quite liberal and pro-choice. I started to turn on this issue about 1 1/2 years ago (on the ‘I have the right to control my own body’ grounds) when I heard conservatives laughing about Clinton’s ’safe, legal, rare.’ bit.

They wanted to know, why ‘rare?’ If there’s nothing wrong with abortion, why ‘rare?’ The first response a liberal has to that question is, well, abortion is not good. We feel that abortion is not a good thing, but it is necessary sometimes.

Why is it not good? What’s wrong with it?

The answer, the ONLY answer of course, is that a living being is killed in the process. The standard Planned Parenthood euphemisms are supposed to keep us from confronting that fact.

By: Right Wing Nut Job

Right Wing Nut Job — Mon, 20 Sep 2004 11:19:51 +0000

La Shawn, I loved the post although the information within made me “madder than a one legged man in a butt kicking contest”. I cannot believe that any minister would actually support abortion, although I am not too surprised at it.

By: david

david — Mon, 20 Sep 2004 07:50:53 +0000

This is such a tough issue. My best friend was born a preemie, he and his twin were less than the weight I was by myself. Me, over 8lbs, the biggest baby in the ward, they were tiny at barely over 4lbs. BTW, if abortion were more accepted at the time, they would’ve been aborted. They are adopted and don’t know their very young unwed mother. Me, it would’ve been likely that I would’ve been a non-entity too if aborition were more available in ‘63 to early ‘64.

However, as repugnant as abortion is as I get older (40 now), I won’t advocate an outright law against it. I’m a “brain activity present” person though it’s a nasty compromise. But I wish there were some way to make it rare. Maybe I’ll have to answer for this position when I face G-d one day. I have no idea what I’ll say.

By: Nikki Pratt

Nikki Pratt — Mon, 20 Sep 2004 05:26:48 +0000

I found the picture of the tiny baby extremely happy and sad. This lucky baby has parents and doctors that care. So many other tiny black children don’t have that same care…so many…

But seeing that picture also made me think of a way to help other blacks women understand. Can you tell me when a black baby starts developing his black skin? I cannot seem to find that information anywhere. I think if the young mothers know, they’ll understand their baby is THEIR CHILD and not just a fetus.

By: Terry Baker

Terry Baker — Mon, 20 Sep 2004 03:43:46 +0000

Dear La Shawn, I found your site through a link from Michelle’s site, and glad I did. Bless you and God keep you. I am reminded that with God, all things are possible. Without him, all things are permissable. Thanks, Terry