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		<title>By: SCSIwuzzy</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/09/28/plantation/comment-page-1/#comment-5580</link>
		<dc:creator>SCSIwuzzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Oct 2004 01:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DarkStar,
I&#039;ll give you the first 3, but after marriing Bettlebrow, Matalin can&#039;t be counted as a republican anymore.
Just kidding.
90% (love is blind, but does it have to be stupid, too) :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DarkStar,<br />
I&#8217;ll give you the first 3, but after marriing Bettlebrow, Matalin can&#8217;t be counted as a republican anymore.<br />
Just kidding.<br />
90% (love is blind, but does it have to be stupid, too) <img src='http://lashawnbarber.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: DarkStar</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/09/28/plantation/comment-page-1/#comment-5579</link>
		<dc:creator>DarkStar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Oct 2004 01:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;If a Republican publicly criticizes his party’s stand on an issue or civil rights record or whatever, that’s all he needs to argue why we shouldn’t vote for Repubs.&lt;/em&gt;

That&#039;s a gross misrepresentation of what I wrote. I&#039;ll state it again.

Conservatives/Republicans want to say that Blacks non-thinkingly vote for Democrats. But there are conservatives/Republicans, white and Black, who have stated that Blacks haven&#039;t voted for the GOP because of some things the GOP has done and has not done. In other words, some white and Black Republicans have stated that the GOP has not given Blacks a good reason to consider the GOP.

It&#039;s interesting that the party that &quot;preaches responsibility,&quot; doesn&#039;t want to take responsibility.

&lt;em&gt;If the Repub in question happens to be black, it’s even more proof.&lt;/em&gt;

Actually, it would be better if I included more white Republicans like Jack Kemp, Tony Snow, Newt Gingrich, and Mary Matalin. They all have criticized the GOP in regards to the Black vote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>If a Republican publicly criticizes his party’s stand on an issue or civil rights record or whatever, that’s all he needs to argue why we shouldn’t vote for Repubs.</em></p>
<p>That&#8217;s a gross misrepresentation of what I wrote. I&#8217;ll state it again.</p>
<p>Conservatives/Republicans want to say that Blacks non-thinkingly vote for Democrats. But there are conservatives/Republicans, white and Black, who have stated that Blacks haven&#8217;t voted for the GOP because of some things the GOP has done and has not done. In other words, some white and Black Republicans have stated that the GOP has not given Blacks a good reason to consider the GOP.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s interesting that the party that &#8220;preaches responsibility,&#8221; doesn&#8217;t want to take responsibility.</p>
<p><em>If the Repub in question happens to be black, it’s even more proof.</em></p>
<p>Actually, it would be better if I included more white Republicans like Jack Kemp, Tony Snow, Newt Gingrich, and Mary Matalin. They all have criticized the GOP in regards to the Black vote.</p>
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		<title>By: DarkStar</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/09/28/plantation/comment-page-1/#comment-5578</link>
		<dc:creator>DarkStar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Oct 2004 01:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;If a Republican publicly criticizes his party’s stand on an issue or civil rights record or whatever, that’s all he needs to argue why we shouldn’t vote for Repubs.&lt;/em&gt;

That&#039;s a gross misrepresentation of what I&#039;ve stated. 

I&#039;ll state it yet again.

People blindly criticize Blacks for voting with Democrats. Yet, Republicans, white and Black, have stated there are reasons why Blacks don&#039;t vote for Republicans and some of the blame lies with Republicans themselves.

That&#039;s radically different from what you wrote.

&lt;em&gt;If the Repub in question happens to be black, it’s even more proof.&lt;/em&gt;

It doesn&#039;t matter to me if they are Black or white. Jack Kemp, Mary Matalin, Newt Gingrich, and Tony Snow have said that the GOP needed to do more and have made mistakes.

Blacks aren&#039;t stupid but it appears that conservatives like saying Blacks are stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>If a Republican publicly criticizes his party’s stand on an issue or civil rights record or whatever, that’s all he needs to argue why we shouldn’t vote for Repubs.</em></p>
<p>That&#8217;s a gross misrepresentation of what I&#8217;ve stated. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll state it yet again.</p>
<p>People blindly criticize Blacks for voting with Democrats. Yet, Republicans, white and Black, have stated there are reasons why Blacks don&#8217;t vote for Republicans and some of the blame lies with Republicans themselves.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s radically different from what you wrote.</p>
<p><em>If the Repub in question happens to be black, it’s even more proof.</em></p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t matter to me if they are Black or white. Jack Kemp, Mary Matalin, Newt Gingrich, and Tony Snow have said that the GOP needed to do more and have made mistakes.</p>
<p>Blacks aren&#8217;t stupid but it appears that conservatives like saying Blacks are stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: Raymond C. Coleman</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/09/28/plantation/comment-page-1/#comment-5495</link>
		<dc:creator>Raymond C. Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2004 16:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I call my campaign to get Blacks away from the Democrat plantation &quot;The Harriet Tubman Project.&quot;

Why do you think I gave it that name?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I call my campaign to get Blacks away from the Democrat plantation &#8220;The Harriet Tubman Project.&#8221;</p>
<p>Why do you think I gave it that name?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Roberts</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/09/28/plantation/comment-page-1/#comment-5488</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2004 15:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LB-
Guess the Dems don&#039;t think so, since Jesse Jackson has now signed up on the Kerry campaign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LB-<br />
Guess the Dems don&#8217;t think so, since Jesse Jackson has now signed up on the Kerry campaign.</p>
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		<title>By: LB</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/09/28/plantation/comment-page-1/#comment-5463</link>
		<dc:creator>LB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2004 13:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because the hold Dems have over blacks is akin to living on a plantation, in my view. Old style rhetoric and race politics are so outplayed in 2004.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because the hold Dems have over blacks is akin to living on a plantation, in my view. Old style rhetoric and race politics are so outplayed in 2004.</p>
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		<title>By: DarkStar</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/09/28/plantation/comment-page-1/#comment-5444</link>
		<dc:creator>DarkStar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2004 10:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Maybe I should have made clear that I would put more faith in the story if it had some supporting opinions by other conservatives (black, white, or whatever).&lt;/em&gt;

I understand. If one Black person says something you agree with, you&#039;ll take it as gospel. If one Black person says something you disagree with, you&#039;ll say it&#039;s not representative.

How about looking up Faye Anderson, who used to be co-chair of the New Majority Council of the GOP, and read some of her comments. Especially what she had to say on why she left the Republican party.

&lt;i&gt;I was implying that Liberals feel it’s legitimate to call Conservatives all the names they want, but think it’s hate speech when accusations of racism are directed at them.&lt;/i&gt;

Do 2 wrongs make a right?

And, if &quot;Black conservatives&quot; say there should be no name calling, why are they engaging in it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Maybe I should have made clear that I would put more faith in the story if it had some supporting opinions by other conservatives (black, white, or whatever).</em></p>
<p>I understand. If one Black person says something you agree with, you&#8217;ll take it as gospel. If one Black person says something you disagree with, you&#8217;ll say it&#8217;s not representative.</p>
<p>How about looking up Faye Anderson, who used to be co-chair of the New Majority Council of the GOP, and read some of her comments. Especially what she had to say on why she left the Republican party.</p>
<p><i>I was implying that Liberals feel it’s legitimate to call Conservatives all the names they want, but think it’s hate speech when accusations of racism are directed at them.</i></p>
<p>Do 2 wrongs make a right?</p>
<p>And, if &#8220;Black conservatives&#8221; say there should be no name calling, why are they engaging in it?</p>
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		<title>By: La Shawn</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/09/28/plantation/comment-page-1/#comment-5441</link>
		<dc:creator>La Shawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2004 09:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t ponder it too much, Wayne. DarkStar always does this. If a Republican publicly criticizes his party&#039;s stand on an issue or civil rights record or whatever, that&#039;s all he needs to argue why we shouldn&#039;t vote for Repubs. If the Repub in question happens to be black, it&#039;s even more proof.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t ponder it too much, Wayne. DarkStar always does this. If a Republican publicly criticizes his party&#8217;s stand on an issue or civil rights record or whatever, that&#8217;s all he needs to argue why we shouldn&#8217;t vote for Repubs. If the Repub in question happens to be black, it&#8217;s even more proof.</p>
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		<title>By: WayneB</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/09/28/plantation/comment-page-1/#comment-5432</link>
		<dc:creator>WayneB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2004 03:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;It made national news. In fact, the person running for the California leadership position dropped out of the race because of so much bad publicity from Shannon Reeves. But, hey, facts don’t matter.&lt;/em&gt;

Ok, I&#039;m struggling to follow the direction here, I guess I&#039;m having a brain cramp, but I&#039;m not seeing how the fact that it made national news changes the fact that it&#039;s one person&#039;s statement. Maybe I should have made clear that I would put more faith in the story if it had some supporting opinions by other conservatives (black, white, or whatever). I was also trying to get across the notion that I don&#039;t find it especially likely that a strongly conservative person would rise very high in California politics.

&lt;em&gt;When someone turns the tables on them, they then cry “Unfair!&quot;, like a bunch of children.

So, please tell my why Black Republicans are treated so differently by white Republicans?&lt;/em&gt;

Well, as I said above, without supporting testimony, I&#039;m inclined to take the Shannon Reeves statement with a grain of salt. I realize that things may have happened to him to make him bitter, but I think that it was also a bit of an exaggeration, especially after reading some of the other articles that search turns up. I am also having a hard time understanding what this has to do with the top statement, as I was implying that Liberals feel it&#039;s legitimate to call Conservatives all the names they want, but think it&#039;s hate speech when accusations of racism are directed at them. 

Even if Shannon Reeves was NOT exaggerating, it&#039;s valid to call it hypocrisy if Liberals can just attack someone for implying that they are not all true-blue equalitarians, instead of providing evidence that the accusation is not true, when they are guilty of the same kind of accusations that are being called &quot;unconscionable&quot; when applied to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>It made national news. In fact, the person running for the California leadership position dropped out of the race because of so much bad publicity from Shannon Reeves. But, hey, facts don’t matter.</em></p>
<p>Ok, I&#8217;m struggling to follow the direction here, I guess I&#8217;m having a brain cramp, but I&#8217;m not seeing how the fact that it made national news changes the fact that it&#8217;s one person&#8217;s statement. Maybe I should have made clear that I would put more faith in the story if it had some supporting opinions by other conservatives (black, white, or whatever). I was also trying to get across the notion that I don&#8217;t find it especially likely that a strongly conservative person would rise very high in California politics.</p>
<p><em>When someone turns the tables on them, they then cry “Unfair!&#8221;, like a bunch of children.</p>
<p>So, please tell my why Black Republicans are treated so differently by white Republicans?</em></p>
<p>Well, as I said above, without supporting testimony, I&#8217;m inclined to take the Shannon Reeves statement with a grain of salt. I realize that things may have happened to him to make him bitter, but I think that it was also a bit of an exaggeration, especially after reading some of the other articles that search turns up. I am also having a hard time understanding what this has to do with the top statement, as I was implying that Liberals feel it&#8217;s legitimate to call Conservatives all the names they want, but think it&#8217;s hate speech when accusations of racism are directed at them. </p>
<p>Even if Shannon Reeves was NOT exaggerating, it&#8217;s valid to call it hypocrisy if Liberals can just attack someone for implying that they are not all true-blue equalitarians, instead of providing evidence that the accusation is not true, when they are guilty of the same kind of accusations that are being called &#8220;unconscionable&#8221; when applied to them.</p>
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		<title>By: La Shawn</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/09/28/plantation/comment-page-1/#comment-5407</link>
		<dc:creator>La Shawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2004 00:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a proud Independent Conservative! I&#039;m on no party&#039;s mailing list...

Actually, I registered &quot;Undeclared&quot; when I signed up to vote, but IC sounds better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a proud Independent Conservative! I&#8217;m on no party&#8217;s mailing list&#8230;</p>
<p>Actually, I registered &#8220;Undeclared&#8221; when I signed up to vote, but IC sounds better.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Slater</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Slater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2004 00:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m beginning to think we should *all* register as independents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m beginning to think we should *all* register as independents.</p>
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		<title>By: DarkStar</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/09/28/plantation/comment-page-1/#comment-5404</link>
		<dc:creator>DarkStar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2004 00:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Do African-Americans need to follow the words of Malcolm X, who said that African-Americans should register as independents? &lt;/i&gt;

I am, so of course I will say yes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Do African-Americans need to follow the words of Malcolm X, who said that African-Americans should register as independents? </i></p>
<p>I am, so of course I will say yes.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Roberts</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/09/28/plantation/comment-page-1/#comment-5345</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2004 13:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One other point.  I also believe that Republicans have made the most progress to get past the label of window dressing.  I doubt Condi Rice, Colin Powell et al are merely there for window dressing.  I  SHOULD HAVE EDITED my statements to say that Republicans historically have used minorities as window dressing to cover for their past bigotry.  Even with those sentiments being expressed by the African-American community, I believe the Republican party offers the best solutions for today and the future.

Reverse victimology?  I hardly think so.  I&#039;m not playing victim to people calling me racist.  I simply work hard to prove otherwise.  That makes at least 1 white conservative that doesn&#039;t believe in reverse-victimology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One other point.  I also believe that Republicans have made the most progress to get past the label of window dressing.  I doubt Condi Rice, Colin Powell et al are merely there for window dressing.  I  SHOULD HAVE EDITED my statements to say that Republicans historically have used minorities as window dressing to cover for their past bigotry.  Even with those sentiments being expressed by the African-American community, I believe the Republican party offers the best solutions for today and the future.</p>
<p>Reverse victimology?  I hardly think so.  I&#8217;m not playing victim to people calling me racist.  I simply work hard to prove otherwise.  That makes at least 1 white conservative that doesn&#8217;t believe in reverse-victimology.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Roberts</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/09/28/plantation/comment-page-1/#comment-5343</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2004 13:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t miss what you said.  I was acknowledging your point and attempting to reinforce it.  My apologies for the poor sentence structure.  

It is imperfect on both sides.  Both sides want the vote.  I believe both parties use minorities as window dressing.  In the meantime, poverty stricken minorities are left with nothing but government handouts and no real solutions.  Each side is so hateful of each other, if anyone comes up with a solution, they try to defeat it just because it came from the other side. I believe there are Democrats who offer practical solutions, but aren&#039;t listened to because they are simply Democrat and vice versa.  Remember how bad Patrick Moynihan was excoriated for coming up with bi-partisan welfare reform?  

Here&#039;s my question:
Do African-Americans need to follow the words of Malcolm X, who said that African-Americans should register as independents?  His words from 40 years ago are eerily reminiscent of the words Republicans are using today, simply substituting Republican for independent.  

I&#039;m interested in hearing everyone&#039;s take.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t miss what you said.  I was acknowledging your point and attempting to reinforce it.  My apologies for the poor sentence structure.  </p>
<p>It is imperfect on both sides.  Both sides want the vote.  I believe both parties use minorities as window dressing.  In the meantime, poverty stricken minorities are left with nothing but government handouts and no real solutions.  Each side is so hateful of each other, if anyone comes up with a solution, they try to defeat it just because it came from the other side. I believe there are Democrats who offer practical solutions, but aren&#8217;t listened to because they are simply Democrat and vice versa.  Remember how bad Patrick Moynihan was excoriated for coming up with bi-partisan welfare reform?  </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s my question:<br />
Do African-Americans need to follow the words of Malcolm X, who said that African-Americans should register as independents?  His words from 40 years ago are eerily reminiscent of the words Republicans are using today, simply substituting Republican for independent.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m interested in hearing everyone&#8217;s take.</p>
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		<title>By: DagneyT</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/09/28/plantation/comment-page-1/#comment-5339</link>
		<dc:creator>DagneyT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2004 12:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never understood the allegiance the black community had to the Donks, since the civil rights legislation that LBJ had fought for years as a senator, yet was made to sign as president, was authored by Republicans.  In fact, the first civil rights law was proposed by Republicans in 1888!  It took us darn near 100 years to get it past the dumocraps!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never understood the allegiance the black community had to the Donks, since the civil rights legislation that LBJ had fought for years as a senator, yet was made to sign as president, was authored by Republicans.  In fact, the first civil rights law was proposed by Republicans in 1888!  It took us darn near 100 years to get it past the dumocraps!</p>
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