12:21 p.m. — Since I didn’t get into the debate hype last night, I’m live-blogging Rush, at least until my lunch hour is over at 1:00 p.m. He always makes me feel better. For instance, he said the Democrats are already putting together a video of Bush’s facial expressions, not his words. When the Republicans come out with their video, do you know what they’ll present? John Kerry’s words. These stark differences reflect substance over style, my friends.
Rush mentioned that Kerry lied, and when he returns I’ll tell you all about it.
12:28 p.m. — Rush says that Jim Lehrer didn’t see fit to ask Kerry about his Senate record. Kerry, who was against pre-emptive strikes during the Cold War, is now for it and has a case of revisionist history about his stance during the Cold War.
More on Kerry’s globalist dreams. “Pass the global test” before taking pre-emptive action? Bush said you take pre-emptive action to protect the country. Global test, my eye!
12:40 p.m. — Rush is using some harsh language now. He should probably calm down. Don’t lose perspective on what’s at stake, he says. What is Kerry going to do about North Korea? Bilateral talks. OK. Is he going to put Madeleine Albright in charge if he’s president? Eek! Rush says Kerry was all over the ballpark last night.
Good point: Kerry thinks people will forget all about what he said before the debate. True. Rush rolls tape on a “Meet the Press” show where Kerry said whatever the war costs, it is critical we spend it. Tim Russert repeats what Kerry just said, and Kerry reiterates. “Whatever we need.” But last night he said that money could have been used for “healthcare” and “education.”
12:50 p.m. — Rush said he’s not on the old “woe is me” track with other conservatives. He’s on fire. Seventeen separate Kerry lies? He mentions the old class envy/class warfare trick.
Lehrer asked a question about homeland security, and Kerry didn’t answer. “What would you do specifically about security?” Kerry lies and says the subway in New York was closed during the Republican convention. Non-responsive. Kerry says “We’re not doing the job.” Non-responsive.
Rush wonders why Bush didn’t knock any of Kerry’s answers out of the park. I wonder, too. Tired?
Resources (the best) shifted from Afghanistan to Iraq? A Kerry lie. Rush reminds us that Kerry’s base is split: pro- and anti-war. There’s no way he can please his base, but you won’t hear mainstream media talking about it. Kerry seems willing to use the military when America’s security is not at stake. Real presidential, JFK.
One more point: The “Pottery Barn Principle” analogy sank like a rock. In reference to the Iraq war, Kerry said, “If you break it, you fix it.” Huh? If you break something in a store, do they expect you to spend all day trying to repair it? No. If you break it, you own it!
The fun must end. I’ve got to go earn the palace!
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Speaking of Afghanistan, see the Indepundit.
Vodkapundit serves up a dry assessment with his dry martini. He’s too cool. An after-debate blogger party? The guys at Power Line are cool, too.
BlameBush! has a dead-on analysis of the debate. By the way, it’s parody.
Hello! Michelle Malkin has posted her debate analysis.
Thomas Galvin blogged about Kerry’s “21 lies.”
Power Line links to a slanted CBS poll that shows Bush actually narrowed the gap among “uncommitted” voters.
JustOneMinute is still going! The Political Junkie says the debate was good for Kerry.
Update (10/3): See Michelle Malkin’s mini-rant! Sissy Willis on the debate between Cheney and Edwards. JustOneMinute has more of Kerry’s “widely praised” debate performance.
Instapundit loves JustOneMinute! I hate polls! Check out Political Vice Squad’s “NewsWeak” post.
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Kerry lied? You don’t say? But I’m not sure that’s going to be the biggest issues the Bush camp will go after:
1) Kerry said this: “Saddam WAS a threat, but that’s NOT the issue. Huh? Has not he and his political allies been saying it was a mistake? Has not their montra basically been the complete opposite – “Saddam WASN’T a threat and that IS the issue?”
2) Kerry’s newest “nuclear freeze” scheme. This guy is delulsional. If the Bush Camps wants to turn this whole debate into a net loss for Kerry they will run ads how John Kerry wants to weaken our defense and show his comments from the debates regarding our nuclear developements – “See, we told you so.”
It’s not so much the lying but the revisionism that struck me. Man, I wish Bush had gone for the jugular!
I wish I had a copy of the 30 page agreement. I thought neither campaign was to use any footage from the debate.
I guess the 527s didn’t sign on to that. kerry had no response to the statement about him deriding our coalition
partners and disrespecting P. M. Allawi. Kerry shamed our nation by his comments and his campaigns comments on Allawi.
Revisionism is Kerry’s middle name… wait, JRK? That doesn’t sound right.
How ’bout all those “Kennedy” references? Is that some of the adivce Willy gave him? Priceless.
Pat, I was afraid that might be in the agreement. If it is, bummer. I certainly don’t have time to read 30 pages of b****ing – do you?
Mr. Kerry has proved himself on all accounts to be the socialist-in-training I thought he was. Every choice, he would make as president, would be run up the global flagpole for approval. He needs to move to France and be done with it. His “golbal approval” stance is one of the reasons people are specualting that by the end of this century Europe will be Islamic. When terrorism is allowed to be “voted” on it has won.
“When terrorism is allowed to be “voted” on it has won.”
Excellent point, Cooper! Brilliant, in fact. This is what most Americans know down deep in their gut, but are unable to articulate. That is why Bush will win – he’s the same way.
La Shawn, I believe the President was emotionally drained, after spending the day yesterday comforting hurricane victims and thanking aid volunteers who were there helping them. And he still got his points across! He didn’t pick up on all he might have, but he still did well. And the markets and Rasmussen are proving the point!The problem the left always makes is that they “misunderestimate” the American people. (Hat Tip: President Bush!)
Editor: “Revisionism is Kerry’s middle name… wait, JRK? That doesn’t sound right.”
If that’s pronounced “jerk”, it sounds right to me!
There is a copy of the agreement, at http://www.debates.org, I think. I hope Bush cleans his clock at the townhall debate. (Anyone from Bush Campaign reading this blog – make sure he gets some sleep first!)
La Shawn…
Wow. Props for live-blogging the program. I was swamped at work and this did the trick.
Gracias…
Okaaaaaaayyyyyyy…Did anyone else pick up on this besides my husband and me? Let me just preface it with be afraid, be very, very afraid if Kerry wins the election.
He made a statement last night about how he would handle Iran and it’s possibly making nuclear weapons. I don’t have a direct quote, so I will give you the jist of the statement. Basically, he said that he would give Iran the tools to make nuclear weapons, then we would see if we can trust them with them. WHAT?? WHAT??!! Whee-Haw! I found the exact quote: “I think the United States should have offered the opportunity to provide the nuclear fuel, test them, see whether or not they were actually looking for it for peaceful purposes. If they weren’t willing to work a deal, then we could have put sanctions together.”
Let me put these in more practical everyday scenarios. Would you:
give 3 year old Johnny a gun, tell him not to shoot it to test him? Then when he does, take his favorite toy away?
tell 14 year old Susie that she can date Bobby, sleep over at his house in bed with him, but not have sex? And when she does, take away television privileges for a week?
give 16 year old Bubba Bill, Jr. a case of beer to drink at the prom, but don’t drive. Then, when he does, take away his Xbox for a month?
To make it worse, John Kerry flip-flops in the debate even on this issue. He then goes on to say at the end of the debate that his biggest global concern right now is Nuclear proliferation. Huh? But, he would give nuclear capabilities to Iran.
If Kerry gets elected get ready for a WHOLE, WHOLE, WHOLE lot of Americans to die.
I agree with Ms. Barber. I don’t think Kerry won the debate. I agree with Rush. Why didn’t Bush take kerry to task about his lies and flip flops? I don’t know except maybe he had a game plan and was sticking to it. Anyway I think Bush won on content. If you know what Kerry has said in the past then you know Kerry lost.
La Shawn,
The live blogging is tremendous. With respect to some of the views expressed by your very literate readers I want to chime in a bit.
Pat in NC is correct about how Kerry has treated the interim Prime Minister. It is indicative of Mr. Kerry’s very snobbish attitude. He tries very hard not to look down his nose at people, but his posture gives him away.
Dagney is also on the money about the President looking drained. I must admit that his appearance was not as sharp as it usually is and fatigue would provide the answer.
In conclusion you have a very dedicated readership and each is quite the commentator themselves.
KikiB, we heard it, and it’s just a continuation of the Clinton attitude, i.e., give them fuel rods for power to show we do not have any “hard feelings” toward them. And the Mullahs will be any more honest than Kim Jung Mentally IL? Sheesh, when will these lefties learn? That is why we have to keep them OUT of the White House!
New Media operates differently from Old Media, in a way that might affect the election.
Last night’s debate is being raked over by an army of bloggers. Kerry’s lies, mistakes, and wrong-headed worldview are getting microscopic examination. Conservative radio hosts draw upon blogs, and these critical reviews are disseminated within hours to millions.
For speed and efficiency, there is no Old Media equivalent. The liberal spin will come too late.
(I don’t think I’ve ever read a live-blogged radio program. This may be a first for LBC.)
Lyle – I think I was born too late. I really like listening to the radio, and whenever something political is going on, I prefer it over TV. Did I ever tell you I listen to old radio shows? I’m nostalgic for a time I wasn’t around to see.
La Shawn,
I’ve reached the saturation point with Kerry and globalism. My job has taken me to many places in Europe and the middle east before and after Mr. Bush became president. Nobody liked us when Bill Clinton was president, and they’re not about to open the Cabernet and break out the cheese just because Kerry gets elected. Europeans liked Bill Clinton, but not us. The thing they liked most about Clinton was his cheating and lying. This behavior appealed to them because it embarrased us.
They want to defeat us economically (anybody heard of the E.U.?)and they make no excuses for it.
When confronted with our involvement in Iraq, I counter with Bosnia – they had no problem with us dropping a bombs as long as it was their idea. The big difference between Bosnia and Iraq as far as Europe was concerned was money. As everyone now knows, Europeans do a lot of business in the middle east, especially Jacques and Gerhardt, but there weren’t many Euros to be made in Bosnia. Their hipocrasy is really something to behold – human rights are only violated if the violator has no money.
It’s amazing to me that Kerry’s 2 favorite EU countries have told him in no uncertain terms they will not send troops, yet this has not stopped him from claiming he will rescue Iraq with Europeans. Kerry isn’t just arrogant, he’s a dunce to believe the Europeans will jump to his rescue. He hasn’t shown enough leadership ability to gain the respect of his own military, much less that of a continent full of self absorbed twerps.
That so many Americans embrace the notion we need to be ashamed of our success or who we are is a result of insecurity. The media here has done a great job of reminding us the rest of the world believes us to be selfish and stupid. Not surprisingly, the media in Europe says the same. Unfortunately too many people here believe it to be true and will vote for a buffoon like Kerry. From what I’ve experienced of European opinion, it’s nothing more than jealosy.
As it is with our personal lives, Americans need to look after the future and interests of our country, and not expect others to come to our rescue. We need a president that’s determined to prevail with or without anybody’s help – fortunately there’s one guy that fits this description.
“Rush reminds us that Kerry’s base is split: pro- and anti-war.”
That’s why the whole issue about the six-month thing seemed important to me. Bush points out that it’s a completely arbitrary timeline, and Kerry denies that he’s said that he’ll have people out in six month, then makes up a “nuanced” way of saying that he’ll have them out in six months… after he wins a miraculous victory. It’s an interesting tactic that serves to please his whole voting base.
The anti-war people just hear “gone in six months.” The Pro-war people hear “six month victory,” and everyone who didn’t just listen to the President when he said that the deadline was completely arbitrary and fictitious (that is, everyone who was already voting for Kerry) comes out happy.
““Rush reminds us that Kerry’s base is split: pro- and anti-war.””
the pro war dems I know are worried about how bush is handling the situation
And the anti-war reps aren’t too keen on a Kerry premature pull-out, so I imagine it’s a wash on that angle.
The pottery barn thing confused me, too. I made fun of the pottery barn thing myself, saying “What’s up with that?” However, my husband is in a military school now, he knew the phrase, it made sense to him, and he defended Kerry’s use of it. The phrase is popular in the military now, and evidently comes from a Colin Powell book (or maybe Tommy Franks). It’s probably big in political circles, too.
However, it’s an “in” phrase that I’m sure most Americans didn’t get.
PPheeew! Here’s my post. I thought I had lost it. Sorry I put it in the wrong place. It really was supposed to go on the article a little south of this one. I wanted my hubby to read it, and it’s no wonder he couldn’t. He couldn’t find it…Lol.
Whew, LaShawn! Get yourself on over to PowerLine. They have a blog about Washington States Republican election headquarters being broken into ala Watergate style. Missing computers, etc. What have the dastardly dems. done now?
“Rush reminds us that Kerry’s base is split: pro- and anti-war.”
Yes, 20% Pro and 80% Anti with John himself in the anti-war
majority. Look guys, Johns base is anti-war. His party has traditionally been anti-way. His political history is anti-war.
Who among us actual thinks with John, Tom, Ted, and Nancy’s party in power, there is going to be anything but an Exit Plan executed in Iraq……….anyone? That’s what I thought.
Live blogging? Great stuff LaShawn!
I really just stopped in to wish you a great weekend.
God Bless!!!
OK so if you guys say the Dems are anti-war than that must mean you repubs are pro-war. Well then why don’t you just foresake your tax cuts as well as your sons and daughters and send them all to Iraq…. maybe they’ll find Osama there.
‘He always makes me feel better. ‘
Is this because you like being reassured that Bush is winning?
‘Kerry’s newest “nuclear freeze” scheme.’
The US is already the most powerful nuclear nation BY FAR, and i wasnt aware that the ‘war on terror’ involved the use of nuclear missles.
‘Revisionism is Kerry’s middle name…’
Hes a lot less left wing than you make him out.
‘Mr. Kerry has proved himself on all accounts to be the socialist-in-training I thought he was’
Wrong.
‘Every choice, he would make as president, would be run up the global flagpole for approval.’
Wrong again, and nothing to do with Socialism.
‘He needs to move to France and be done with it. ‘
The customary reference to France. Irrational.
‘His “golbal approval” stance is one of the reasons people are specualting that by the end of this century Europe will be Islamic.’
Baseless scare mongering. Ignoring the fact it will never happen, and Europe is almost totally secular……it gives away your irrational hatred of Islam. ‘Tin foil hat’ is a common phrase used by the right, i think its fit to use in this situation.
Pablo, nobody said Republicans are the opposite of Democrats, as in, if they say white we say black. I don’t even understand the rest of your post.
The part of the debate that scared me the most about Kerry’s globalism is the exchange over the mess in the Sudan. Bush stated we have sent humanitarian aid; Kerry said we should send more aid than just humanitarian. What does this mean? Troops in the Sudan, just like in Somalia? Somebody help me on this one, especially since Kerry has been consistent on (only) this issue: U.N. control of our troops. Is there a Democrat out there who can explain to me (coherently) why this is a good thing?
I also agree that Kerry was all over the map, especially when Lehrer asked him to be specific. Several times Bush looked as stunned as I felt when they panned over to him while Kerry was talking. I still maintain that the difference between Kerry and Bush is the difference between a JD and an MBA. One’s a good talker, the other’s a good leader.
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You live-blog Rush, do you? Here’s a gem spoken by one of Limbaugh’s colleagues:
“The Republicans should stop accepting the baggy-eyed Bolshevik as the moderator.”
I agree. I think someone like Lou Dobbs would be a much better moderator for the Presidential debates.
Omar, Omar, Omar…
You ought to put up more of an argument than “Wrong”
You weren’t aware that an aspect of the ‘war on terror’ was anti-nuclear proliferation. You understand that BOTH candidates agreed that it was the most importent.
He’s a lot less left-wing than we would make him out. According to the ACU, TRIM, and others, he was among the MOST left-wing.
It [islamic Europe] will never happen.
Oh, no? As always, you facts are half-right. Europe IS secular, and we may be witnessing the death of Western Man in many ways. Who’s to say that Islam, with their birthrates vis-a-vis White Europe, will not triumph? It’s simple demographics.
The words of Michael Savage! You know, I should blog about him. Interesting subject.
La Shawn,
Here are the last two paragraphs from my comments on the debates:
The actions of the two men BEFORE the debate did do much to strengthen my decision that Kerry would be a poor choice for the White House. The news media reported that George Bush spent the day reviewing the damage four devastating hurricanes inflicted on Florida – a key state, and one that almost cost him the presidency in 2000. John Kerry, it was reported, spent a large portion of the day getting a manicure. There’s no mention of him stomping for votes, surveying the damage, or doing any thing else PRESIDENTIAL before the debates.
Actions speak louder than the shrillest words. President Bush acted presidential; John Kerry acted foppish. John Kerry acted the Boston Brahmin – above it all. George Bush acted the Texas rancher, understanding that helping a neighbor in a time of difficulty was not only morally right, but essential for both their survival. Bush “won” the debate long before the two men entered the television studio.
Old Patriot
That is an EXCELLENT observation. It does bother me that people seem to forget the President still has a J-O-B to do while Kerry runs around sucking up to Hollywood and eating gourmet prepared meals on his campaign bus.
Yes, ACTIONS do speak louder than words.
u guyz seem smart, surprised you dont want to vote 4 Kerry.
“eating gourmet prepared meals on his campaign bus.’
ya. gimme that scrappy white house chef any day.
Why do we need to even consider what was said during the joint press conference? It was not a Debate and it is not being covered as a Debate; any decent Debate judge would critique the issues by scoring them against some issues’ paradigm. In that case Kerry loses bigtime. His lack of logical positions, his shifts, twists, and turns would eliminate him. The MSM are only interested in seeing Kerry elected, and will do and say anything to accent his victory of “style” over Bush’s logic. The Media will not cover Kerry’s gaffes, or his (by actual count) 9 different positions on Iraq. Though, he has nice hair.
I did post a reply to Mark Slater, but it seems to have been deemed inappropriate. Fair enough, i suppose it was. I’ll relay the points, without the acid.
1.) Kerry is not a Socialist. There is nothing more to say in regards to this assertion than ‘wrong.’
2.) The ‘war on terror’ makes no use of the USA’s gigantic nuclear arsenal, and neither should it do so.
3.) As i said, Kerry is a lot less left wing than Conservative individuals and groups make him out to be. Including the ACU.
4.) There is no ‘battle’ in Europe between Muslims and Non Muslims, so you use of the word ‘triumph’ is flawed. Also, you typically assume every European Muslim is a rabid member of Al Qaeda. You are bigoted in your views against Muslims.
5.) Islam is a RELIGION not a colour. Your reference to ‘white’ Europe is therefore flawed.
6.) Compare the figures of European MUSLIMS to NON MUSLIMS. As hard as it is to believe, the majority of European Muslims DONT want to take over Europe and turn it into an Islamic stronghold.
7.) As for ’simple demographics’ what are your opinion on Hispanic Americans? They are the fastest growing group in America, and already account for a substantial percentage of the population. By 2100, will the USA be a latin American nation? Will the Hispanic’s ‘triumph?’ I hope this shows how ridiculous your assertion is.
Omar; Although you claim to be an ex-muslim, you are definitely practicing taqiyya a religious deception, as sanctioned by the koran (3:28 and 16:106)
There is a covert war brewing in France and the rest of EU in general, such as rapes of infidel/non-devout,and a whole slew of violence and intimidation by islamic gangbangers (mini-me terroists) and condoned by many an evil mullah/imans. This has been recorded again and again by the Euro MSM and duly noted with alarm by government officials.
The anti-headgear law in France was driven not by religious animosity, but by the multitude of rapes committed against girls and women who “offend” islamic sensibilities. The goal of the ban is to strip the so-called devout females of their “don’t-rape-me,-I’m-a-good-girl,-I-am” headscarves, so as to make them indistinguishable from the bad girls.
Denial is futile. The record on dhimmism is strong and irrefuteable. Perhaps you should go to Dhimmi Watch at jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch and spend the rest of your free time TRYING to debunk the record there, instead of trying to bamboozle us. We ain’t buying it.
As for the rest of your screed; sKerry IS an extreme left-wing socialist in the mold of France. Your freetime might be better spent at the DU and partaking of their koolaid fest.
Your rantings about the military only shows that you haven’t a clue about the profession — for your edification, check out belmontclub.blogspot.com.
If Iran doesn’t back off, the war on terror will go nuclear!!! It isn’t necessary for us to use nukes; simply laying bunker-busting MOABs on any or all of their 15+ nuke sites will in effect make them no-go areas for years to come. Better yet, perhaps we should aim our HAARPs at them and play a couple chords and let that be a sonic warning to others.
Although our hands are “full” with Iraq, there is a line of thot that, pending the inevitable failure of diplomacy, taking out Iran’s nuke program could trigger the collaspe of the mullahocracy, allowing the moderates and secularists to take over the reigns of Iran.
Given the US demographics, it is a matter of time before the US becomes “brown”, so what. The issue is whether we’re a brown nation operating still under our original constitution, or we (led by dems) let an unassimilated majority transform the core principles of our nation. Either way, this doesn’t compare to the desire of the jihadiis to retake Europe by any means in order to restablish the great 3rd caliphate.
Thanks for the link, doll.
Great post, Andy.
And Kerry cheated, too. Crib notes, for criminy sakes! And he wants to be President of the United States of America!? Is there nothing beneath this man; is there nothing he won’t do? The truth will out.
Pablo: “OK so if you guys say the Dems are anti-war then that must mean you repubs are pro-war….. ”
No Pablo, pro-defense and proud of it. We believe there are things worth fighting for.
All I know is Pres Bush had better get some rest, wipe that smirk off his face and stop sounding like a parrot in a cage.If he can’t get get mad enough to go after Kerry about his many flip-flops then he will end up like daddy Bush.
And in God’s name who is coaching this guy for the debates? They are doing a poor job.
It’s great to tour the mess in Florida but please not just before you are going in front of 60 million people!His advisors need some common sense!
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