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		<title>By: CLA</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/10/04/ebonics/comment-page-1/#comment-10780</link>
		<dc:creator>CLA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2004 02:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where have the true &quot;leaders&quot; gone?  The truth lies in the hope for the future.  We have tons of these &quot;clons leaders&quot; thinking so right-wing that they forget real issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where have the true &#8220;leaders&#8221; gone?  The truth lies in the hope for the future.  We have tons of these &#8220;clons leaders&#8221; thinking so right-wing that they forget real issues.</p>
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		<title>By: WayneB</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/10/04/ebonics/comment-page-1/#comment-6926</link>
		<dc:creator>WayneB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2004 08:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;OK. I admit it. When I’m around certain black people (family, certain friends) I sometimes speak “Ebonics.”&lt;/em&gt;

Hey, don&#039;t worry about it. When I&#039;m around certain people, I tend to lapse into &quot;Redneck&quot;. It all depends on where you were brought up. 

I have noticed, however, in the last 10 years or so, a distressing tendency not only toward slang in advertising, but horribly poor spelling and grammar. Can&#039;t think of any examples, I just tend to notice when I see it on a huge billboard. It always sets my teeth on edge - and I&#039;m talking about when it&#039;s obviously not done on purpose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>OK. I admit it. When I’m around certain black people (family, certain friends) I sometimes speak “Ebonics.”</em></p>
<p>Hey, don&#8217;t worry about it. When I&#8217;m around certain people, I tend to lapse into &#8220;Redneck&#8221;. It all depends on where you were brought up. </p>
<p>I have noticed, however, in the last 10 years or so, a distressing tendency not only toward slang in advertising, but horribly poor spelling and grammar. Can&#8217;t think of any examples, I just tend to notice when I see it on a huge billboard. It always sets my teeth on edge &#8211; and I&#8217;m talking about when it&#8217;s obviously not done on purpose.</p>
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		<title>By: Dean's World</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/10/04/ebonics/comment-page-1/#comment-6750</link>
		<dc:creator>Dean's World</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Oct 2004 16:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Conservative Brotherhood Wrap-Up (Booker Rising)&lt;/strong&gt;
The Conservative Brotherhood is an ad hoc group of black conservative and moderate bloggers, with a motto &quot;Keeping It Right&quot; (vs. the widespread &quot;keeping it real&quot; mantra). Wha...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Conservative Brotherhood Wrap-Up (Booker Rising)</strong><br />
The Conservative Brotherhood is an ad hoc group of black conservative and moderate bloggers, with a motto &#8220;Keeping It Right&#8221; (vs. the widespread &#8220;keeping it real&#8221; mantra). Wha&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: likwidshoe</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/10/04/ebonics/comment-page-1/#comment-6115</link>
		<dc:creator>likwidshoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Oct 2004 13:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>La Shawn said, &quot;They’re called race hustlers and race pimps.&quot;

I prefer the term &quot;race baiting poverty pimps&quot;.  Think Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>La Shawn said, &#8220;They’re called race hustlers and race pimps.&#8221;</p>
<p>I prefer the term &#8220;race baiting poverty pimps&#8221;.  Think Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson.</p>
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		<title>By: actus</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/10/04/ebonics/comment-page-1/#comment-5980</link>
		<dc:creator>actus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Oct 2004 21:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy:
&quot;That soooounds good, but doesn’t explain how plenty of black individuals arose ahead of the class&quot;

I know, this part of what I said does:

&quot;Which is not to say that despite all of this people can’t still rise individually.&quot; 

Also, this &#039;holding down&#039; isn&#039;t total.  Its basically like putting a brake on how far you can get, or a hill over which you have to climb just to get to the place that other people are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy:<br />
&#8220;That soooounds good, but doesn’t explain how plenty of black individuals arose ahead of the class&#8221;</p>
<p>I know, this part of what I said does:</p>
<p>&#8220;Which is not to say that despite all of this people can’t still rise individually.&#8221; </p>
<p>Also, this &#8216;holding down&#8217; isn&#8217;t total.  Its basically like putting a brake on how far you can get, or a hill over which you have to climb just to get to the place that other people are.</p>
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		<title>By: SCSIwuzzy</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/10/04/ebonics/comment-page-1/#comment-5956</link>
		<dc:creator>SCSIwuzzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Oct 2004 17:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ratso...
I am hearing in my mind, Thurston Howell III trying to sound like he&#039;s from Harlem or West Philly... it isn&#039;t working.
Kerry is the man who calls the IMI submachine gun an &#039;eww-she&#039; fer the love of Mike. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ratso&#8230;<br />
I am hearing in my mind, Thurston Howell III trying to sound like he&#8217;s from Harlem or West Philly&#8230; it isn&#8217;t working.<br />
Kerry is the man who calls the IMI submachine gun an &#8216;eww-she&#8217; fer the love of Mike. <img src='http://lashawnbarber.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ratso ferrari</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/10/04/ebonics/comment-page-1/#comment-5949</link>
		<dc:creator>ratso ferrari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Oct 2004 15:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe if Kerry used Ebonics during the next debate he could win more black votes.
Just think, he would become our second black president.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe if Kerry used Ebonics during the next debate he could win more black votes.<br />
Just think, he would become our second black president.</p>
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		<title>By: nobody important</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/10/04/ebonics/comment-page-1/#comment-5946</link>
		<dc:creator>nobody important</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Oct 2004 15:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason Michael Moore has never been cheated by a black man or thrown out of a house by a black man is that he hardly knows any black folks.  Otherwise, he would never make such idiotic statements as the one about how black men on the hijacked planes on 9/11 would have fought back.  Never mind that blacks were on those planes and eventually some men (probably black and white) &lt;i&gt;did&lt;/i&gt; fight back.  Michael Moore is a stupid white man.

By the way, claiming that blacks have higher morals and values than other Americans is itself a form of stereotyping.  Blacks exhibit &lt;i&gt;all&lt;/i&gt; the characteritics that mark us as human: greed and generosity, courage and cowardice, industry and indolence, nobility and ignominy.

Only the ignorant cannot understand that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason Michael Moore has never been cheated by a black man or thrown out of a house by a black man is that he hardly knows any black folks.  Otherwise, he would never make such idiotic statements as the one about how black men on the hijacked planes on 9/11 would have fought back.  Never mind that blacks were on those planes and eventually some men (probably black and white) <i>did</i> fight back.  Michael Moore is a stupid white man.</p>
<p>By the way, claiming that blacks have higher morals and values than other Americans is itself a form of stereotyping.  Blacks exhibit <i>all</i> the characteritics that mark us as human: greed and generosity, courage and cowardice, industry and indolence, nobility and ignominy.</p>
<p>Only the ignorant cannot understand that.</p>
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		<title>By: Backcountry Conservative</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/10/04/ebonics/comment-page-1/#comment-5926</link>
		<dc:creator>Backcountry Conservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Oct 2004 12:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Black Vote&lt;/strong&gt;
Here is good news:Democratic presidential candidate Sen. John Kerry has seen a 10 percent decline in his support among black voters in the past month that has forced him to devote more campaign resources to energize one of his party&#039;s...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Black Vote</strong><br />
Here is good news:Democratic presidential candidate Sen. John Kerry has seen a 10 percent decline in his support among black voters in the past month that has forced him to devote more campaign resources to energize one of his party&#8217;s&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Slings And Arrows</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/10/04/ebonics/comment-page-1/#comment-5925</link>
		<dc:creator>Slings And Arrows</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Oct 2004 12:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Black Vote&lt;/strong&gt;
Here is good news:Democratic presidential candidate Sen. John Kerry has seen a 10 percent decline in his support among black voters in the past month that has forced him to devote more campaign resources to energize one of his party&#039;s...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Black Vote</strong><br />
Here is good news:Democratic presidential candidate Sen. John Kerry has seen a 10 percent decline in his support among black voters in the past month that has forced him to devote more campaign resources to energize one of his party&#8217;s&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Roundguy</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/10/04/ebonics/comment-page-1/#comment-5920</link>
		<dc:creator>Roundguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Oct 2004 11:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What really ticks me off about the DNC is their entire philosophy about our black Americans. They want to &quot;dumb down&quot; all black people. They remind me of a man extending a false hand to a man up to his chest in quicksand. Once you grab that hand and fall in they own you. You will always vote for them because, after all they support you. I used to be very predjudiced towards blacks until I had an employee more racist than any white man I know. I know the hand of Christ turned my head and opened my eyes.

The tide is starting to turn, thanks to people like LaShawn and other people who don&#039;t make excuses; they rise of their own free will. Individuals that don&#039;t need Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson to constantly remind them how much a victim they are. 

There is a great deal of guilt in this country over the history of black intolerance and indifference. But people, individuals with faith in God and their own sense of self worth, will and do succeed. One thing I must agree with Michael Moore on (just this one time) was when he said he&#039;d never been cheated by a black man. He&#039;d never been thrown out of a house by a black man ,etc. The point being that black people have higher morals and belief systems than most other Americans. I cringe when someone says &quot;I have a black friend...&quot;. I like to just say I have a friend and it don&#039;t matter two cents what color he is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What really ticks me off about the DNC is their entire philosophy about our black Americans. They want to &#8220;dumb down&#8221; all black people. They remind me of a man extending a false hand to a man up to his chest in quicksand. Once you grab that hand and fall in they own you. You will always vote for them because, after all they support you. I used to be very predjudiced towards blacks until I had an employee more racist than any white man I know. I know the hand of Christ turned my head and opened my eyes.</p>
<p>The tide is starting to turn, thanks to people like LaShawn and other people who don&#8217;t make excuses; they rise of their own free will. Individuals that don&#8217;t need Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson to constantly remind them how much a victim they are. </p>
<p>There is a great deal of guilt in this country over the history of black intolerance and indifference. But people, individuals with faith in God and their own sense of self worth, will and do succeed. One thing I must agree with Michael Moore on (just this one time) was when he said he&#8217;d never been cheated by a black man. He&#8217;d never been thrown out of a house by a black man ,etc. The point being that black people have higher morals and belief systems than most other Americans. I cringe when someone says &#8220;I have a black friend&#8230;&#8221;. I like to just say I have a friend and it don&#8217;t matter two cents what color he is.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/10/04/ebonics/comment-page-1/#comment-5905</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Oct 2004 03:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;To the extent that what holds you down is holding you down as a member of a class, then you can rise as a class. Thats what the civil rights era was about – erasing the things that held people down as a class.&quot; -- Actus

That soooounds good, but doesn&#039;t explain how plenty of black individuals arose ahead of the class.  That&#039;s not to discredit MLK and the necessity of the movement against apartheid in its time.

The problem is many did not make the leap out of believing that racism is the only thing holding them down -- rather like the stupefied frog in the pot slowly coming to a boil.  Rather than jumping out and following the free frogs, they content themselves with the envy of &quot;deys actin white&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;To the extent that what holds you down is holding you down as a member of a class, then you can rise as a class. Thats what the civil rights era was about – erasing the things that held people down as a class.&#8221; &#8212; Actus</p>
<p>That soooounds good, but doesn&#8217;t explain how plenty of black individuals arose ahead of the class.  That&#8217;s not to discredit MLK and the necessity of the movement against apartheid in its time.</p>
<p>The problem is many did not make the leap out of believing that racism is the only thing holding them down &#8212; rather like the stupefied frog in the pot slowly coming to a boil.  Rather than jumping out and following the free frogs, they content themselves with the envy of &#8220;deys actin white&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: actus</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/10/04/ebonics/comment-page-1/#comment-5903</link>
		<dc:creator>actus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Oct 2004 02:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You can’t rise as a class. You have to rise individually.&quot;

To the extent that what holds you down is holding you down as a member of a class, then you can rise as a class.  Thats what the civil rights era was about -- erasing the things that held people down as a class.  

If you make the leap into believing that racism still holds people down, then you believe that they can still rise as a class.  

Which is not to say that despite all of this people can&#039;t still rise individually.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You can’t rise as a class. You have to rise individually.&#8221;</p>
<p>To the extent that what holds you down is holding you down as a member of a class, then you can rise as a class.  Thats what the civil rights era was about &#8212; erasing the things that held people down as a class.  </p>
<p>If you make the leap into believing that racism still holds people down, then you believe that they can still rise as a class.  </p>
<p>Which is not to say that despite all of this people can&#8217;t still rise individually.</p>
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		<title>By: J Thomas Lowry</title>
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		<dc:creator>J Thomas Lowry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Oct 2004 02:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LB,

That is quite a statement, saying no &quot;black individual is being oppressed.&quot;

The current dogma for the left is that everyone is oppressed by those of us on the right.  Dogma aside, I agree with your comments and your sense of forceful purpose.  It is refreshing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LB,</p>
<p>That is quite a statement, saying no &#8220;black individual is being oppressed.&#8221;</p>
<p>The current dogma for the left is that everyone is oppressed by those of us on the right.  Dogma aside, I agree with your comments and your sense of forceful purpose.  It is refreshing.</p>
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		<title>By: DarkStar</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/10/04/ebonics/comment-page-1/#comment-5900</link>
		<dc:creator>DarkStar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Oct 2004 02:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Do you think the problem that I’m having is that the ads are anti-Bush and not the demeaning slang used in the ad, DarkStar?&lt;/em&gt;

No. Actually I was responding to others, not you directly.

&lt;em&gt;It doesn’t bother you that this white elitist snob talks about Section 8 housing in speeches to black crowds, for crying out loud?&lt;/em&gt;

Yep. Wrote about it too, or at least that general idea of thinking of all Blacks being down and out.

&lt;em&gt;tongue firmly planted in cheek&lt;/em&gt;

Too bad because it&#039;s on point. And if you read around, that ad I mentioned wasn&#039;t liked by all &quot;Black conservatives.&quot;

Nutshell time. If it&#039;s condenscending, it&#039;s condenscending no matter who does it.

LaShawn, I&#039;m consistant on this point: &quot;both sides&quot; are insulting and condenscending to Blacks at times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Do you think the problem that I’m having is that the ads are anti-Bush and not the demeaning slang used in the ad, DarkStar?</em></p>
<p>No. Actually I was responding to others, not you directly.</p>
<p><em>It doesn’t bother you that this white elitist snob talks about Section 8 housing in speeches to black crowds, for crying out loud?</em></p>
<p>Yep. Wrote about it too, or at least that general idea of thinking of all Blacks being down and out.</p>
<p><em>tongue firmly planted in cheek</em></p>
<p>Too bad because it&#8217;s on point. And if you read around, that ad I mentioned wasn&#8217;t liked by all &#8220;Black conservatives.&#8221;</p>
<p>Nutshell time. If it&#8217;s condenscending, it&#8217;s condenscending no matter who does it.</p>
<p>LaShawn, I&#8217;m consistant on this point: &#8220;both sides&#8221; are insulting and condenscending to Blacks at times.</p>
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