Comments on: Pseudo Leadership And Black Groupthink

By: Andy

Andy — Sat, 30 Oct 2004 15:09:14 +0000

Rainmaker, amen to that and to God be the glory.

By: Rainmaker

Rainmaker — Sat, 30 Oct 2004 12:49:55 +0000

When I was younger and smarter than I am now I was filled with liberal ideals. My path from liberal to conservative was a slow and often painful look into what each offered. I had been kicked out of the service. I was a heroin addict. I was on welfare. I was homeless(a bum)..I was anti-government..anti-police..anti-society. I was against all these huge vague entities that had no spokesman. I could rail against “the system” without anyone to challenge me. I recall the one defining moment that stripped me of my liberal leanings. It occurred in a heroin clinic in Santa Clara,Calif. It was in a group therapy session of about 40 people. My life was like something out of Groundhog Day. It was an endless replay of clinics..sessions..and failures. Someone asked me why I used drugs. I launched into the same old tedious and familiar rant about a society and a system that was cruel and uncaring. It was all well rehearsed. Suddenly..a young intern just shouted at me. “Ray..you are a phoney!” I remember being shocked at his words. He followed it up by saying. “One of these days you’re going to wake up..look into the mirror..and scream.” Several yrs later I rolled out of a cot in my prison cell and looked into a mirror(actually a shiney piece of metal) and the young intern’s words came true. I screamed. It was not societies fault..nor the police..nor the system. Liberals had convinced me I had no control. They were literally loving me to death. They offered me excuses and I bought into them. I changed that day. I did not lose my humanity or my compassion by becoming a conservative. The truth does not generally explode..but rather seeps slowly into our lives. I am proud of who I have become. I am proud of being an American..and of being a conservative. Rainmaker..

By: DarkStar

DarkStar — Sat, 09 Oct 2004 14:16:10 +0000

Not remembering exactly something 5 or 6 years ago is not usual?

By: Andy

Andy — Sat, 09 Oct 2004 00:03:26 +0000

After 7 or 8 posts you finally reveal that you went out of your way to backorder a copy of Harpers. But still can’t provide anything substantive beyond “IIRC”? Interesting. I’ll keep that in mind — if Cheney can forget having met JohnBoy before… /YAWN/

By: DarkStar

DarkStar — Fri, 08 Oct 2004 22:54:10 +0000

Saw it discussed in email. Went to borders and back ordered the edition. Read it.

Armstrong Williams has said it far more eloquently than myself when he called the black leaders “parasites”.

Are you saying that Blacks don’t have any ideas about an issue until “Black leaders” come out and give an opinion, which at that point, Blacks fall in line?

By: Dominic

Dominic — Fri, 08 Oct 2004 20:36:55 +0000

This is the greatest stuff! I am also a black conservative and walk with the teachings of Christ. It is refreshing to know that there are others out there who believe as I do.

My journey is such that I am an unaccomplished(as of right now) 37 year old black male seeking a better lot in life. I work as a mortgage loan officer and wait tables part-time here in Raleigh NC. About a month and a half ago, everyone discovered that I like George Bush and am a Black Republican/conservative. Well, you should have seen the uproar. Til this day, everyone shakes their heads at me when politics are discussed. Well, I laid out my reasons as why I believe that conservativism suits me the best. One point I made was as such: Every event that has occured in my life, be if fair or foul, has been a direct result of the decisions that I have chosen to make in life. There was no white man at fault, the system didn’t wasn’t to blame. Just myself, the sole perpitrator of wisdom,genius or bad decision.

Armstrong Williams has said it far more eloquently than myself when he called the black leaders “parasites”. Our communities have been brainwashed by the ever-faltering ideas and notions of soft bigotry by espousing the deeds of low expectations. I believe that the future of success and self respect among blacks must come from a collective effort of pushing one another across the road to success/victory.

Thank you to all those who stand in the gap and stand up for principles and ideas that transcend the modern day pop culture arguments of the elitist liberal and black leaders.

By: SCSIwuzzy

SCSIwuzzy — Fri, 08 Oct 2004 00:25:29 +0000

DS,
So… did you read it in Harpers, or did you see it in an email from someone who claimed to have read it in Harpers?

By: SCSIwuzzy

SCSIwuzzy — Fri, 08 Oct 2004 00:24:01 +0000

LawWife,
I’m not a Lawyer, but I date one, and work for a company that has a rather large law department. Lexis access is just a few moments in the elevator away.

By: DarkStar

DarkStar — Thu, 07 Oct 2004 22:43:08 +0000

I’d say about 5 or 6 years ago. It was around the time of the previous election. It was some members of an email list that I was on. It was an email list that contained some members of Project 21. The email list wasn’t an email list run by Project 21, I want to make that clear.

By: LawWife

LawWife — Thu, 07 Oct 2004 14:48:09 +0000

Wuzzy, are you an attorney? I didn’t think we layfolk could just go searching Lexis-Nexis on a whim, but I could be wrong. (My husband is a 3L and will take his Bar next summer. Woo!)

By: SCSIwuzzy

SCSIwuzzy — Thu, 07 Oct 2004 03:01:23 +0000

DS,
I don’t want to sound like I’ve got OCD, but which BCs and when?
I am honestly curious, and not busting stones.

By: DarkStar

DarkStar — Thu, 07 Oct 2004 02:55:33 +0000

I’ll file this one under F for figment.

So be it. But the fact that some Black conservatives were ticked off about it, is something I won’t forget.

By: SCSIwuzzy

SCSIwuzzy — Thu, 07 Oct 2004 02:46:56 +0000

DS,
A search of Harpers also brings up nothing. Neither does a search on Snopes.
Until a citation pops up, I’ll file this one under F for figment.

By: DarkStar

DarkStar — Thu, 07 Oct 2004 01:33:45 +0000

DarkStar, if nothing else, you make me laugh bringing up isolated incidents, apocryphal anecdotes and minutiae. Thanks. I needed that.

No problem. Funny though, when McWhorter did it, he was praised.

By: DarkStar

DarkStar — Thu, 07 Oct 2004 01:32:43 +0000

Years ago? Would it be some article about Anita Hill, Dr of Victimology?

*YAWN*