Update (8:58 p.m.): Already an update! Instapundit has linked to this post, inviting the blog-less to live-comment. Welcome readers! 
Update II: It is done. Right Journal says: “Mr. Bush won.”
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I’m not watching the debate, but I invite readers to “live-comment” during the event.
We bloggers run “hybrid online sites that blend news, gossip and opinion”, according this article, and the blogosphere will be buzzing for sure. I just hope President Bush is well-prepped, forceful, aggressive and in Kerry’s face about every contradiction, inconsistency and lie.
Live-commenting is open.
For a round-up of live-blogging bloggers, see links below…
Vodkapundit has left the building, and his readers are looking for live action!
The Valkyrie is doing a countdown, which should be finished right about now. And apparently, bears blog. Spoons, too!
Pajama Editors are on it. Also see Politburo Diktat. The Power Line is fired up. See B4B’s big list of live-bloggers. Jeremy is still typing furiously.
Have we been Overtaken By Events? Llama Butchers may have the answer.
Allahpundit as posted a must-see graphic. Poor Baldilocks. She can’t live-blog because she’s working. Lone Wacko’s live-blogging it.
No, Jeff Blanco isn’t live-blogging. He’s busy live-commenting over here!
Robert Prather has things under control at Protein Wisdom. B4B is going crazy again!
Somebody wake Treacher up!
I have already been praying for Bush. I want to see him knock it out of the park tonight. Thankfully, it’s the townhall forum, and he shines more in that forum.
As an aside, my brother-in-law and his wife got us the book, “The Faith of George W. Bush”. I was leafing through it last night, and ran across a section that mentioned that Bush might have undiagnosed Dyslexia. I have also wondered about that. It would explain the rapid eye blinking, mispronouncing words, etc. However, those who have undiagnosed Dyslexia become experts at memorizing and giving a speech and speaking in a one-on-one format, because they learn very early how to read people and relate well to them. It also mentioned that Dyslexia runs in families, and my hubby told me that Bushie has a brother who is Dyslexic. Makes you wonder.
Comment by Kiki B. — 10.08.04 @ 8:52 pm
You’re not lonely anymore! LaShawn has a great site, huh?! So, what do you want to hear tonight?
Comment by Rosemary — 10.08.04 @ 8:53 pm
Thanks for coming over! This debate is really important for Bush, so tell me all good things!
Comment by La Shawn — 10.08.04 @ 8:54 pm
Hey Lashawn,
How are you doing? I thought I would check in and let you know that I am going to do a poll after the debate again.
But I think I’ll eat pizza and watch it in the mean time….
Comment by Jeffery Blanco — 10.08.04 @ 8:56 pm
It is about to come on. God bless America and President George W. Bush.
Comment by Rosemary — 10.08.04 @ 9:01 pm
Well, here we go. I have a bottle of Australian wine, KJZZ jazz to soothe my nerves, and hoping GW comes through like I know he can.
Comment by Carl Schwartz — 10.08.04 @ 9:01 pm
Lol, Carl. You’ll be mellow enough for both of us. I know my hubby’s going to get upset with me. When I get mad at Kerry, I have a tendency to yell at the TV, and then we can’t hear what’s being said…Lol. Where’s the Valium?
Comment by Kiki B. — 10.08.04 @ 9:03 pm
Oh my word! Kerry’s in trouble. His Botox is wearing off. If you want to go by style only, he looks terrible tonight.
Comment by Kiki B. — 10.08.04 @ 9:07 pm
Dumb Townhall-Style Faux Debate Blogging
It will all be here. It looks like there are fewer of us for this one. NZ Bear, Spoons, Ann…
Trackback by Overtaken by Events — 10.08.04 @ 9:09 pm
Kiki, I’m not watching it, just following the blogs. I like what I just read from you!!
Comment by Carl Schwartz — 10.08.04 @ 9:10 pm
Bush looks good so far…
Comment by Jeffery Blanco — 10.08.04 @ 9:13 pm
Go, Bushie! I called it! I said he needed to nail Kerry on the “global test” crap right after Kerry lied, I mean flip-flopped, and he did! Last debate, we had to pass a “global test”, this debate, Kerry says he wanted to use force against Iraq, but he would have used it “wisely”. Huh?? What does that mean?
Comment by Kiki B. — 10.08.04 @ 9:14 pm
Sen. Kerry must not have read any of the Dulfer report! He claims that the sanctions were working! He just disqualified himself!
Comment by Rosemary — 10.08.04 @ 9:14 pm
LLamaliveblog: The St. Louis Debate
7:45 Central Time—-Made it in okay, and the Red Sox cooperated by ending the extra innings game and sweeping the Angels. No moral quandry of which event to watch (and can you say Sawx Cardinals World Series? I thought you…
Trackback by The LLama Butchers — 10.08.04 @ 9:15 pm
Lol…thanks, Carl.
Comment by Kiki B. — 10.08.04 @ 9:15 pm
Use force “wisely”?? I thought he wanted to fight a more ’sensitive war’.
Comment by Carl Schwartz — 10.08.04 @ 9:16 pm
Can you imagine Kerry winning the presidency? He’ll get France and Germany to take over in Iraq, get our troops out and lose the other “insignificant nations”
It would be a disaster….
Comment by Jeffery Blanco — 10.08.04 @ 9:16 pm
Anyone think that the president has shown ANY weaknesses or not met expectations in any way tonight? (Supporter, loved the VP debate.)
Comment by Edward Yee — 10.08.04 @ 9:18 pm
I really want to ask Kerry a two part question,
“What wars that America has won does he disagree with?
Did FDR and the United States Congress rush us into war?”
Comment by Jeffery Blanco — 10.08.04 @ 9:20 pm
Score:
Bush–21
Kerry–0
Cheerleader Kiki leading cheers:
Give me a B
Give me a U
Give me an S
Give me an H
Gooooooooooo, Bushie! Stay on offense, and SSSSSSSCCCCCCCCCCCCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!
Comment by Kiki B. — 10.08.04 @ 9:23 pm
Nice score!
Comment by La Shawn — 10.08.04 @ 9:26 pm
Now Kerry is talking about “leading the world”. I thought he was more interested in building a coalition.
Comment by Jeffery Blanco — 10.08.04 @ 9:26 pm
I like how the president’s keeping his cool, and I think his answer on the ICC was alright, but now Kerry is just BULL****ing on the troops numbers that would have been around if the president had hesitated … nice admission on the scowl.
Good point though on the president calling out Kerry on the inspectors and Iran.
Comment by Edward Yee — 10.08.04 @ 9:28 pm
Kiki, I’ve already yelled at the TV a few times! I seem to remember “Kerry lied, people died.” They are talking about Iran’s nukes. Doesn’t he know that Iran is sandwiched? We got this. The French have no troops to give, so where are they going to get them? Sanctions on Iran? Go get ‘em, Mr. Prez!
Comment by Rosemary — 10.08.04 @ 9:28 pm
Bush concentrates on the question, while skerry talks his points and keeps going back to expired questions — talka bout duck and run. What does domestic issues have to do with a specific question on Iraq?
Comment by Andy — 10.08.04 @ 9:30 pm
Interesting naming of names by Kerry, but will anyone remember them tommorow? I’m mixed on the draft statement and the effectiveness of Kerry’s talking about stop-loss …
P.S. Kudos for mentioning Poland!
Comment by Edward Yee — 10.08.04 @ 9:32 pm
Thank you for standing up for the coalition, Mr. President. Kerry, shut your face.
Comment by Rosemary — 10.08.04 @ 9:32 pm
Great lie coming up!
Kerry knows, as does every single liberal, that Charles Rangel Democrat from New York who is sponsoring the bill to reinstate the draft and his reasons for sponsering it was “It would make us less likely to go to war when the rich would have too send them too.”
Liberals supported it then and agreed with his reasoning.
Comment by Jeffery Blanco — 10.08.04 @ 9:33 pm
90% ? ***dammit, the president should have gotten another rebuttal to one more time slap Kerry with Cheney’s line …
Comment by Edward Yee — 10.08.04 @ 9:33 pm
Bush - sharp and feisty
sKerry - my plan, my plan and off-topic
Comment by Andy — 10.08.04 @ 9:35 pm
Insulting the coalition again, why would they want to stay in Iraq if their contribution is insignificant?
Tax cut for the rich, yet he’s going to let us middle class people keep the tax cut that we supposedly never got.
Comment by Jeffery Blanco — 10.08.04 @ 9:35 pm
ok - if bush doens’t kill kerry on the intelligence question….i’m not going to vote for bush…hahah..bush should kill him on this quesiton.
Comment by sharon — 10.08.04 @ 9:36 pm
stop loss is when you are in the field and it’s time for you to come home, if you are needed, darn it, you stay until someone can relieve you!
Comment by Rosemary — 10.08.04 @ 9:36 pm
Yeehaw, Slap him down again, George!
Comment by Kay Harrison — 10.08.04 @ 9:36 pm
The Grecian Formula and Botox are wearing off. The very orange spray on tan is beginning to glow. He shouldn’t take beauty tips from Tuhrayza. How much do you want to bet that before the next debate, Tuhrayza has him into the hairdresser, and Botoxed up by the Plastic Surgeon. Also, he needs to exfoliate before he gets the spray on tan. I’ve heard that it turns out better if you do that. His style is sliding.
Comment by Kiki B. — 10.08.04 @ 9:37 pm
Missouri is the third largest member of the coalition… once again, Kerry forgot… IRAQ.
And now, he’s on about the tax cut for the richest americans…
Saying he traded the tax cut for homeland security…
Bush hits him with the tripled budget for homeland security..
then hits him for Kerry’s attempted budget cuts to intel…
Ouch
George is awake, aware and agressive…
Skipping HS football tonight, I didn’t think I’d hear this, but…
Be agressive, B-E-AGG-RE-SS-I-V-E AGRESSIVE!
Comment by SCSIwuzzy — 10.08.04 @ 9:37 pm
Why would he believe the president if he believes that the president lied in order to take us too war?
Comment by Jeffery Blanco — 10.08.04 @ 9:37 pm
La Shawn, not watching/listening was your loss
TBush is In The House!!!
Comment by Andy — 10.08.04 @ 9:39 pm
Go, Rosemary! Give ‘em what for!
Hey, Jeff, my husband and I who don’t make anywhere near $100,000 sure did like our tax cut, and we sure do like keeping our money that we(I mean Tom earns). We wouldn’t make it financially under Kerry’s tax cut plan.
Comment by Kiki B. — 10.08.04 @ 9:40 pm
Kiki, are you an esthetician? LOL
Comment by Carl Schwartz — 10.08.04 @ 9:40 pm
Okay, he just said he believes the president, now he’s calling the president a liar again.
Comment by Jeffery Blanco — 10.08.04 @ 9:41 pm
I hear ya, I couldn’t handle a Kerry tax increase on the rich, I am too poor for that.
Comment by Jeffery Blanco — 10.08.04 @ 9:43 pm
sKerry st-t-t-t-ammering, not once, not twice and still counting??? I thot he was supposed to be slick talkin’. What gives?
Comment by Andy — 10.08.04 @ 9:45 pm
Roll back the tax cut, but he’ll give us a tax cut, and he’s going to spend more money…What?
Comment by Jeffery Blanco — 10.08.04 @ 9:45 pm
As P. J. O’Rourke once said, “If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it’s free.”
Comment by Kay Harrison — 10.08.04 @ 9:46 pm
Here’s what Kerry’s tort Reform Plan is after a quick search
http://search.atomz.com/search/?sp-q=tort&x=0&y=0&sp-a=sp1001847f&sp-p=any&sp-f=ISO-8859-1
Comment by Jeffery Blanco — 10.08.04 @ 9:47 pm
Go get ‘em George!!! No vote! LOL
Comment by Rosemary — 10.08.04 @ 9:48 pm
Great Line!!!!
“If your for it you should have been on the senate floor to vote for it.”
Comment by Jeffery Blanco — 10.08.04 @ 9:48 pm
Nail him, Bushie! First Kerry was against capping punitive damages, now he’s for them? Since when? I like what Bush said, “show up in the Senate and vote for it”. Lol, way to go Bush!
Comment by Kiki B. — 10.08.04 @ 9:49 pm
Wow, do these guys hate each other.
I can’t remember two candidates who were so openly hostile to one another. I mean, Bush I and Clinton despised each other, but Bush I didn’t call Clinton a bozo till just before the election.
Comment by anon — 10.08.04 @ 9:51 pm
New campaign slogan for Kerry:
“Socialized medicine…err…Nationalized healthcare will kill you!”
Comment by Kiki B. — 10.08.04 @ 9:52 pm
Reading this stuff is much more interesting than watching!
Comment by La Shawn — 10.08.04 @ 9:55 pm
You are right, this is the most hostile debate I have ever seen.
Comment by Jeffery Blanco — 10.08.04 @ 9:55 pm
So are we in agreeance that Bush is winning? Does anybody think Bush looks bad?
Comment by Jeffery Blanco — 10.08.04 @ 9:56 pm
Bush looks passionate about what he believes. He is making a great sell.
Comment by Jeffery Blanco — 10.08.04 @ 9:57 pm
Hey, when the country and the world is at stake, its no time to play mister nice guy. Georgie is giving it straight up!!
Comment by Carl Schwartz — 10.08.04 @ 9:58 pm
Kerry’s going to raise taxes on the rich? There go our jobs. Everybody knows that if taxes are down, there’s more money for the rich to spend/invest, and it trickles on down to us. Don’t ever forget that it is those “rich” people, like Kerry’s heiresses who provide jobs.
Comment by Kiki B. — 10.08.04 @ 9:58 pm
Where has he been? We lost 1M jobs in 1 mo. after 9/11/01, we had a war with Afghanistan, Iraq, Liberia, Haiti, Philiphines, Horn of Africa, etc., also, the collapse of Enron and Arthur Anderson, etc. Corporate corruption. Sort of like the UN! LOL
Comment by Rosemary — 10.08.04 @ 9:59 pm
Rosemary—
obviously not in the senate often.
Comment by Jeffery Blanco — 10.08.04 @ 10:00 pm
Also, if Kerry is so desperate to have a childcare program, aren’t he and Tuhrayza wealthy enough to pay for it? He’s married enough heiresses. He shouldn’t take our money to pay for it.
Comment by Kiki B. — 10.08.04 @ 10:01 pm
Here comes the arson in the water line
Comment by Jeffery Blanco — 10.08.04 @ 10:01 pm
arsonic, sorry, I tried to say it before he did
Comment by Jeffery Blanco — 10.08.04 @ 10:02 pm
yeah right! ya know how he voted for the balanced budget? HE RAISED EVERYONES taxes!!! That was in 93. he even raised taxes on seniors! Remember that?
Comment by Rosemary — 10.08.04 @ 10:03 pm
“don’t use labels, it’s not fair…” the he follows up with ‘now Bush wants to starve children, rape grandmothers, hang your kitty cat. blah blah blah Wahhhh”
Comment by Jeffery Blanco — 10.08.04 @ 10:03 pm
Well, considering the fact that I can’t find myself attracted to a VERY pompous New England Democrat “boy” who identifies himself with the working class by windsurfing off Cape Cod - I think our President is doing a fantastic job of showing his Compassionate Conservative side (which in reality is far more ‘liberal’ in the best sense of the word than this metro-wannabe waffler).
Comment by Kay Harrison — 10.08.04 @ 10:03 pm
Kerry’s same old cliches are so tired. Would Americans elect someone who lies as much as Kerry does? Oh, yeah, we elected the Clintons.
Comment by Neal Hawkins — 10.08.04 @ 10:03 pm
Good point, Rosemary. How does someone “lose” 1.6 million jobs. Did they fall out of his pocket into the couch cushions? Are they on top of his head with his glasses? Maybe he left them in the car or at work. Sheesh! IT IS NOT THE PRESIDENT’S JOB TO CREATE JOBS!!! That is businesses jobs, and when you cut taxes, they are created since there is more money to go around. Also, as Rosemary mentioned, we have been through a ton in the past 3 years in this country, and we are SURVIVING AND GROWING!! Any other country would have been devastated by the 9/11 attacks, but we have come back from that tragedy. That is a testament to the leadership of our President, and the resilience and determination and ingenuity of the American people.
Comment by Kiki B. — 10.08.04 @ 10:04 pm
Does anyone wonder if John Kerry has been everywhere? “I was in Kyoto! I know” I was in Vietnam. I know!” “I was in the Senate. I know!” Mr. Kerry, where haven’t you been other than doing your job in the Senate?
Comment by Nate — 10.08.04 @ 10:05 pm
NO KYOTO!!! YEAH!!! Thanks, Mr. Prez!
Comment by Rosemary — 10.08.04 @ 10:05 pm
John Kerry was a delegate to the Kyoto summit and his influence on the bill was so bad that it actually hurt America. He couldn’t lead at the Kyoto summit now he wants to lead the world as President of the US?
The Kyoto agreement was so bad the Senate vote 95-0 against it.
Comment by Jeffery Blanco — 10.08.04 @ 10:05 pm
You guys are cool.
Comment by La Shawn — 10.08.04 @ 10:07 pm
Great entreprenurial spirit? By taxing the small business owners because they make too much?
Comment by Jeffery Blanco — 10.08.04 @ 10:07 pm
I can tell you how to be energy independent. Ride a horse!
Comment by Rosemary — 10.08.04 @ 10:07 pm
As my hubby just said, “I have a plan, I have a plan, I have a plan, we just never know what it is”. So, what is your plan, Kerry? We have yet to know what it is. Maybe it’s to get elected President, and you to move the White House to your beloved France. Question, Senator, are you running for President of America or France? I can’t really tell.
Comment by Kiki B. — 10.08.04 @ 10:08 pm
Thanks, LaShawn, so are you!
Comment by Kiki B. — 10.08.04 @ 10:08 pm
My dog is growling when Kerry starts talking…ggggrrrrr sic em puppy!
Comment by sharon — 10.08.04 @ 10:09 pm
Got Wood?!! LOL
Comment by Andy — 10.08.04 @ 10:09 pm
Nailed him on his absence again….
“That’s news me”? Good line… Funny segment for Bush, Kerry looked stupid there. Bush looks like he is having fun, he’s loosening up ALOT
Comment by Jeffery Blanco — 10.08.04 @ 10:09 pm
Bush just got a “woody” joke in…hahah
Comment by sharon — 10.08.04 @ 10:09 pm
My kiddos (7 and 10) shudder every time Kerry appears on a commercial, LOL!
Comment by Kay Harrison — 10.08.04 @ 10:10 pm
Kerry helped write the Patriot Act, lets’ see if either of them talk about that.
Liberals supported the Patriot act but the liberals who opposed it were mad because the Patriot Act DID NOT GO FAR ENOUGH and wanted it too include National ID Cards.
I believe Kerry also supported National ID Cards
Comment by Jeffery Blanco — 10.08.04 @ 10:11 pm
Sounds like Bush is kicking derriere tonight!!
Comment by Carl Schwartz — 10.08.04 @ 10:12 pm
I’ve got the best of both worlds. Live blogging on PowerLine, and live commenting here. I’m in Heaven…Lol.
Comment by Kiki B. — 10.08.04 @ 10:12 pm
these questioners are undecided? I don’t believe it, the guy who asked that question on the enviornment is a committed democrat.
Bush isn’t doing as well on all questions as he should be, eg kyoto treaty, i mean the senate was voting it down, and etc. but kerry is just …unwatchable.
then again, i thought kerry was terrible last time too.
Comment by anon — 10.08.04 @ 10:12 pm
Kerry said earlier in this debate that he fully supports the Patriot ACT. Now he’s changing his position
Comment by Jeffery Blanco — 10.08.04 @ 10:12 pm
kerry looks decrepit, he really looks old and unwell. does anyone else see that, or is that my idiosyncrasy? to me, he looks like a cadaver.
Comment by anon — 10.08.04 @ 10:13 pm
I voted for the Patriot Act before I’m against it
Comment by Andy — 10.08.04 @ 10:13 pm
Kerry knows that the Constitution exists. That is amazing!
Comment by Neal Hawkins — 10.08.04 @ 10:13 pm
Just got back from having a drink or six with an elderly neighbor. He’s a veteran of the worst fighting in the Philippines in WW II. I was an Infantry officer several wars later.
The consensus is that the elections don’t matter. The usual suspects will take care of business.
That’s us.
Comment by Richard Aubrey — 10.08.04 @ 10:14 pm
he’s a lawyer
Comment by anon — 10.08.04 @ 10:14 pm
elections matter.
we need to take care of things before they blow up in our face, in our skyscrapers….
Comment by anon — 10.08.04 @ 10:15 pm
Here we go with stem cells. sKerry, why can’t we do without embryo stem cells? sKerry’s blown his time w/o explaining the morality of pursuing ESR
Comment by Andy — 10.08.04 @ 10:15 pm
Poor Bush, how’s he supposed to keep up with Kerry, he doesn’t have an idea what stand Kerry is going to have next.
Anon— Must be the botox
Comment by Jeffery Blanco — 10.08.04 @ 10:16 pm
Welcome to my blog, Richard! I share your sentiment only on Tuesdays and Sundays.
Comment by La Shawn — 10.08.04 @ 10:16 pm
Kerry does look pale… but I thought he looked pale the first night.
Comment by Jeffery Blanco — 10.08.04 @ 10:16 pm
Why didn’t Bush mention oil-for-food???? He could have mentioned it, earlier, when Kerry was going on about allies.
That stuff is getting buried.
Comment by anon — 10.08.04 @ 10:16 pm
woah, John Ashcrott used it 2x in the wrong way…and your problem is…? after 3 years there has not been an attack, and trust me, Mr. Miniter of opinionjournal.com in his book “the shadow war”, they catch at least 1 plot against America per day. Embryonic stem cells? if they were any good, the pharmacies would spend their own money, not gov’t money, you idiot. Thanks Kiki! Thanks Jeff, and everyone. This is cool!
Comment by Rosemary — 10.08.04 @ 10:17 pm
Score:
Bush–42
Kerry–(Yawn) Sssnnkk…Zzzzzzzzzz!
Oops! Sorry. He’s so boring, I can’t help but fall asleep when Kerry talks. He’s at a -21 now.
What morality in the stem cell question? IT’S JUST COMMON SENSE!!! Using embryonic stem cells are dangerous! Adult stem cells are not! Why doesn’t he just say, “Let’s use adult stem cells. They work better”. If he really cared about those who need stem cell research, he would thoroughly study this issue and realize that adult stem cells are safer, AND READILY AVAILABLE. I would gladly go and donate some of my fat to save somebody’s life. I am not willing to kill my unborn child to destroy not only their life, but somebody else’s. They have found that ESC’s grow rapidly and erratically causing cancer and other problmes with embryonic stem cells. Adult stem cells do not.
Comment by Kiki B. — 10.08.04 @ 10:17 pm
I think Bush is doing better than Kerry, but…dammit he doesn’t hit the points he should be hitting.
Comment by anon — 10.08.04 @ 10:18 pm
100?
Comment by Kiki B. — 10.08.04 @ 10:19 pm
Uh Oh Here comes a line that is dangerous
Comment by Jeffery Blanco — 10.08.04 @ 10:21 pm
I wanted to be the 100th commenter.
Comment by La Shawn — 10.08.04 @ 10:21 pm
Will they “Grow the constitution”
Comment by Jeffery Blanco — 10.08.04 @ 10:22 pm
Interpret according to the law?
What is that?
Comment by Jeffery Blanco — 10.08.04 @ 10:22 pm
Bush nailed it on what kinds of judges we need. Kerry’s just name-dropping. I guess where he comes from(Europe?) that’s what matters. Here in America, we make judgments on character.
Comment by Kiki B. — 10.08.04 @ 10:22 pm
Sorry,
I would have shut up long enough for you to have that honor/
Comment by Jeffery Blanco — 10.08.04 @ 10:23 pm
He doesn’t respect when life begins any more than I respect him. I don’t care if he is a Catholic.
Comment by Kiki B. — 10.08.04 @ 10:23 pm
crap, my tape ran out! =)) Hey LaShawn!
Comment by Rosemary — 10.08.04 @ 10:24 pm
I just about swore, and I don’t do that. WHAT DOES FEDERALLY FUNDING ABORTIONS HAVE TO DO WITH PREVENTING AIDS???? Does he not know how AIDS is spread? I won’t go into a biology lesson, but if you aren’t sure how AIDS is spread and women get pregnant, email me.
Comment by Kiki B. — 10.08.04 @ 10:26 pm
Tax-funded abortion — 30 seconds later, kerry says “i can’t take my belief and legislate it”. Hey numbskull, the lady asked about those opposed to abortion forced to funding it. I guess he means to say his hands are tied and we have to pay because it is a RIGHT of people to have abortion therefore we’s got to pay for it.
Comment by Andy — 10.08.04 @ 10:26 pm
“Anon— Must be the botox”
Yeah I went up to the tv and had a close look. Doesn’t do anything for the bags under the eyes, lol. He’s creepy. I can’t handle the idea of having to listen to this creep for four more years, I am going to have to move to France or something if Kerry wins.
He got a chance to mention the war, did ya notice, he’s a catholic, I cannot tell you how much I respect your views on abortion (which are not mine) because Catholicism held me together in …..Vietnam. (Did you know that Kerry served in Vietnam?)
Comment by anon — 10.08.04 @ 10:27 pm
Sorry, LaShawn. I should have let you have that, instead of being greedy. I was first, and then I wanted to see if I could be 100, too. I don’t know if I was, but I shouldn’t have been selfish. Sorry.
Comment by Kiki B. — 10.08.04 @ 10:27 pm
Is John Edwards the kind of jurist that Kerry would pick for the Supreme Court? God help us.
Comment by Neal Hawkins — 10.08.04 @ 10:27 pm
Bush got two laughs, sKerry got nada
Comment by Andy — 10.08.04 @ 10:28 pm
Kerry served in Vietnam, Anon? Since when? Who told you that?
Comment by Kiki B. — 10.08.04 @ 10:28 pm
ooh, he made skerry sound like a terrorist! you can run, but you can’t hide! LOL
Comment by Rosemary — 10.08.04 @ 10:28 pm
1)Why is President Bush shouting? 2) The President wants prospective Supreme Court justices who would vote for him? 3)Did the President really ask “Need some wood?” Oh well, can’t win ‘em all.
Comment by Bijan C. Bayne — 10.08.04 @ 10:28 pm
that’s not fair, what he is saying now. That when they ask about mistakes, they mean was it a mistake to go into Iraq. A lot of people who think it was a good thing to go into Iraq think we should have been more aggressive, had more troops, etc., and that we’ve made mistakes in handling the war. But it’s smart — it works to counteract the questioning and all those people who carry on about hwo “bush doesn’t admit mistakes” (as though the MSM doesn’t crucify him when he does admit, as when he said that the intelligence on Niger shouldn’t have made it into the SOTU). And it also makes Kerry sound as though he’s saying it *was* a mistake to go into Iraq, which is of course what he believes, even though he keeps saying it wasn’t a mistake, just we should have done it differently, that is w/ more inspections that wouldn’t have resulted in this mistaken invasion.
Gee, how do people liveblog, I’m sure that none of what I just wrote is clear.
Comment by anon — 10.08.04 @ 10:32 pm
kiki, I don’t cuss either, but it’s getting pretty testy! I’m glad Bush is doing so gooooooooooooooood, that i can stay calm!
Comment by Rosemary — 10.08.04 @ 10:32 pm
Bush got more than two laughs. I’ve laughed at every answer he’s evaded or done poorly on. Saying he’s fully funded the troops (yeah right, that’s why groups are sendind band-aids, sunscreen, soap, socks and other items the $120 billion should be sufficient to supply). Two laughs? The man IS a joke.
Comment by Bijan C. Bayne — 10.08.04 @ 10:33 pm
So is the global test tossed out the window already?
Comment by Neal Hawkins — 10.08.04 @ 10:34 pm
Bush won, I’m glad it’s over, now if sKerry would just shut up! excuse me, if sKerry would just be quiet!
Comment by Rosemary — 10.08.04 @ 10:35 pm
OH YEAH! OH YEAH! GO BUSH! GO BUSH! I loved that he just nailed Kerry on not voting to equip our troops. Did the Dems. have second thoughts on going to war with Iraq, so they were going to punish Bush by NOT equipping our troops? Oh, that’s rich! Thanks, Kerry! My brother served over there twice(he had body armor), you two-faced windbag. So, what you’re really saying by not voting for the $87 billion, Kerry is that you hate our troops and hope they die? Ahhhhhh…the truth comes out. You really are they disgusting hypocrite that you showed yourself to be after you got back from Vietnam. Your military service is not honorable and DOES NOT count in my book. You did that strictly for your own opportunism, not because you love your country. Take a lesson from the real Veterans.
Comment by Kiki B. — 10.08.04 @ 10:35 pm
Maybe skerry would go home to France and America would be stronger and safer.
Comment by Neal Hawkins — 10.08.04 @ 10:37 pm
FINAL TALLY
Bush : 100% steadfast, serious, strong & forward looking. God bless!
sKerry : flip-flopping huh? $87B for Halliburton??? Sen Kerry, you were no friend of Eisenhower & Reagan, sheesh, that’s twice the name dropping — putting on the Gipper’s mantle, are we??
Comment by Andy — 10.08.04 @ 10:37 pm
Bijan,
Those are care packages that people send to the troops. It doesn’t mean that they couldn’t be provided. Some people just wanted to help in some way, and that was a way they could do their part.
Comment by Kiki B. — 10.08.04 @ 10:37 pm
I am not going to watch any spin…
I will comment and
Comment by Jeffery Blanco — 10.08.04 @ 10:38 pm
Here comes the spin. I’ll be watching Fox News Channel.
Comment by Kiki B. — 10.08.04 @ 10:38 pm
The President keeps saying “We’re at war”. He even used that as a rational for running a deficit (I thought GOP was the fiscally conservative party). In April 2003 he said the war was over. The shouting made him appear out of control.
Comment by Bijan C. Bayne — 10.08.04 @ 10:38 pm
YAHOOOOOOO!
Comment by Rosemary — 10.08.04 @ 10:39 pm
Turdrheysa looks like she’s already had a nip or two of the spirits — a little unsteady bobble there shaking hands with adoring fans
Comment by Andy — 10.08.04 @ 10:40 pm
Care packages? Why did he implement a $250 enrollment f/ veterans’ benefits? Why are the Hummers in Iraq not fully armored, according to troops who have returned? Where are my tax $ going if the troops don’t have enough socks?
Comment by Bijan C. Bayne — 10.08.04 @ 10:40 pm
LLamaliveblog: The St. Louis Debate
7:45 Central Time—-Made it in okay, and the Red Sox cooperated by ending the extra innings game and sweeping the Angels. No moral quandry of which event to watch (and can you say Sawx Cardinals World Series? I thought you…
Trackback by The LLama Butchers — 10.08.04 @ 10:41 pm
I meant, above, that he may have succeeded in “explaining” why he doesn’t admit to mistakes, and also that he set the issue up so that he thinks Iraq was not a mistake, and Kerry does. I’m curious how all the people who keep writing that Bush is arrogant and doesn’t admit mistakes will react to this, if that answer will work. (I’m not sure if Bush really interprets the questions about mistakes as about whether going into Iraq at all was a misake or if he just decided, tactically, to take that line.)
Comment by anon — 10.08.04 @ 10:42 pm
Calling Kerry’s wife out of her name isn’t Christian. Nor is calling Iraqui’s “diaperheads”. Jesus never name-called.
Comment by Bijan C. Bayne — 10.08.04 @ 10:42 pm
Thank you for letting us blog on your blog, la shawn. This was fun!!! (I”ve never been here before, your pic is gorgeous <–I’m a straight female, don’t worry).
Comment by anon — 10.08.04 @ 10:43 pm
I’m a straight female, don’t worry
Comment by anon — 10.08.04 @ 10:43 pm
Laura’s very engaged in the meet-n-greet, folks getting photo=ops with her
Turdrheysa looks lost & lonely. Don’t see people line up for her autographs & pix
Comment by Andy — 10.08.04 @ 10:44 pm
Thanks for letting us take out our frustration at Kerry’s lies and flip-flops.
Comment by Neal Hawkins — 10.08.04 @ 10:45 pm
A whole term of office, and the President can’t think of three things he’s done wrong. People do three things wrong in far less serious positions in less than four months- we’re all human. Be modest Mr. President.
Comment by Bijan C. Bayne — 10.08.04 @ 10:45 pm
I’d still like to know what Kerry’s so-called “plans” are. I’m guessing they involve a magic wand of some sort and the phrase “Bibbity, bobbity, boo.”
Comment by Stacy — 10.08.04 @ 10:46 pm
Jesus never name called? Before you spout of contemporary “biblical buzzwords”, better reread King James, or was that the politically correct and emasculated translation you’re citing — ie Book of St Jane?
Comment by Andy — 10.08.04 @ 10:48 pm
Oh, and Bush does have a stake in a timber company, he knew what Sen. Kerry was talking about. It’s on Bush’s tax return. Born again Christians shouldn’t lie on camera- not about Iraq, budgets, or personal finance. Too easy to check up on.
Comment by Bijan C. Bayne — 10.08.04 @ 10:50 pm
Bijan - You’re quick to invoke Jesus’ name and what he would or would not do, aren’t you? I’ve noticed the pattern, and you’ve been here only one day. I guess you’re unfamiliar with the names Jesus called the Pharisees. I assume you’ve read the whole Bible.
Comment by La Shawn — 10.08.04 @ 10:52 pm
Yeah? A stake???
Give me a break. And Kerry, the nerve, to say that only the three of them earn 200K. How the hell does he know??? How condescending can you get?
Comment by anon — 10.08.04 @ 10:58 pm
I mean, not everyone in the world who earns combined family income of over 200K married an heiress and wears custom made clothing. Some people work two jobs and etc and don’t show up botxed, with blowdried hair to the debate. Kerry is soooo out of touch.
Comment by anon — 10.08.04 @ 11:00 pm
I really don’t know what many of you were watching. A convincing Bush win? Hardly. At best a draw. Bush did better but not enough to “mop the floor with Kerry”.
Comment by Solo (RIP S-Train) — 10.08.04 @ 11:00 pm
Andy, don’t forget that Jesus frequently referred to the Pharisees as hypocrites and vipers. Read the book of Matthew, Bijan, before you try to test my knowledge of Scripture.
Also, as I said before, my brother served in Iraq twice since the war began. He was adequately equipped. However, that is also his JOB. He makes sure that his troops are well-equipped. He and other troops have also said that the media has not truthfully told what is going on in Iraq. So, I am going to assume that you have gotten your information from the media or Kerry. Again, incorrect information. Also, since when have citizens in America sent armored Humvees over to Iraq? I thought we were discussing sending packages with non-perishable food that they couldn’t buy in Iraq(jerky and other treats), as well as sunscreen and socks. Those are sent in care packages. Trust me, my church sent those to some of our members who were stationed over there, as well as others. It’s their way of doing something nice for the troops. Also, you wonder about sending them socks. Did you stop to think that the desert heat wears things out quicker? It does. It’s blazing hot over there, then you put body armor, and a long-sleeved, long-pant uniform(BDU’s) on over all of that, and you’re going to sweat and break down material. So, loving families, caring churches, and other kind people send care packages with such things to the troops. It really does help encourage them. Especially, when we have the likes of hateful Dems and war protesters and politicians like Kerry working very hard to tear down their morale.
Comment by Kiki B. — 10.08.04 @ 11:01 pm
Yes, I’m quite familiar w/ scripture. Jesus met with the poor, lepers, the blind, “the woman who had sinned”, publicans, and tax collectors, all without addressing them out of their names. He said the first commandment after loving God, was to love one’s neighbor as one’s self. He criticized actions, but forgave individuals (even the disciples, he already knew what Peter and Judas were going to do). I cite him often because many posters here are supposed to know and live by the principles of the New Covenant. (as in Corinthians’ “love” chapter). We’re supposed to be “doers of the word”.
Comment by Bijan C. Bayne — 10.08.04 @ 11:04 pm
He also said something about “planks” and “eyes”, too.
Comment by La Shawn — 10.08.04 @ 11:08 pm
Jesus called those groups that because they were legalistic and biased (i.e., opposed healing on the Sabbath). That doesn’t mean he was biased, his statements were based upon their actions (recall John 8:39-44 “…if God were your father, you would love me…”). Calling a senator’s wife, whom one has never met, that name the poster used, is not based on her deeds or actions. Be careful, because we shall know you by your fruits, not your labels (see James 4)
Comment by Bijan C. Bayne — 10.08.04 @ 11:08 pm
That doesn’t mean we roll over and play dead, Bijan. Don’t you recall, again in Matthew that Jesus(since he seems to be the only person you’ll recognize from scripture) fashioned a whip, and chased the money-changers out of the temple at the end of it? He doesn’t sound all soft and fuzzy and wishy-washy to me. He got very angry and acted upon injustices and sins. He forgave people, but he never let them get away with their sin. And never forget, He will also have the last word when he will destroy this earth, and all who have not accepted Him as their Lord and Savior. Again, He is not the weak, effeminate man that some like to make him out to be. He is God. A loving, merciful, righteous, just, angry and jealous God. He is perfect. We are not.
Comment by Kiki B. — 10.08.04 @ 11:09 pm
La Shawn,
You beat me to the punch.
Now, to be unchristian by Mr. Bayne’s standards:
“I can tell you how to be energy independent. Ride a horse!”
Can Teresa support John’s weight?
Comment by SCSIwuzzy — 10.08.04 @ 11:10 pm
The Boston Red Sox will win the World Series, and Boston and Massachusetts will celebrate for day on end.
Then in a karmic balancing act, Senator Kerry will lose.
Comment by Partisan Political Operative — 10.08.04 @ 11:12 pm
If Jesus returned (or was living in your day), few of you would be followers. Too biased. I can hear the comments now. “He hangs around with all those men” “He’s close to John the Baptist, who doesn’t bathe and eats figs”, “he’s healing on weekends”, “I saw him with some tax collectors”, “he’s a Jew”
Don’t (posters like Andy) be so pious or sanctimonious as to think you’d be open-minded.
Comment by Bijan C. Bayne — 10.08.04 @ 11:12 pm
Bijan, while you’re welcome on my blog, I do expect you to practice what you preach. While I am a Christian, this is mostly a political blog, and you are a participant in the political discussion (and I assume you’re a Christian). “Calling out” Christians on the board and quoting Scripture only when it suits you is not edifying to anyone.
By the way, to all, I really want to keep this thread focused on the debate. Let’s do the other stuff off-line, if desired.
Comment by La Shawn — 10.08.04 @ 11:14 pm
Andy,
Was the name you made up for Teresa just a label or based on her actions? She’s a very hateful woman who has told a reporter to “shove it” and other things. So, if you consider that the Lord called the Pharisees, who were the very respected religious leaders of the day “hypocrites and vipers(snakes)” because of their behavior, would it be such a stretch to call a mean, angry woman a turd because it describes her?
Comment by Kiki B. — 10.08.04 @ 11:14 pm
Andy, some of the above post was directed to Bijan. Sorry.
Comment by Kiki B. — 10.08.04 @ 11:16 pm
” Born again Christians shouldn’t lie on camera- not about Iraq, budgets, or personal finance. Too easy to check up on”
I guess CINOs from Mass. get a pass on the lying part.
Bayne, you clearly don’t like Bush, and bringing up his religion as you have, I wonder, do you have a thing against religion as well?
Comment by SCSIwuzzy — 10.08.04 @ 11:16 pm
Time for me to go spend time with hubby. See you all later!
Comment by Kiki B. — 10.08.04 @ 11:17 pm
Er, Kiki, I never wrote that The Saviour was wishy-washy,weak or effeminate. To be honest I’ve never called anyone “weak” or “wishy-washy” in my entire life. I was commenting on what Andy called Mrs. Heinz-Kerry. Jesus said he came w/ a sword, and that his followers could not put mother or father before him- doesn’t sound weak.
Comment by Bijan C. Bayne — 10.08.04 @ 11:18 pm
Dumb Townhall-Style Faux Debate Blogging
It will all be here. It looks like there are fewer of us for this one. NZ Bear, Spoons, Ann…
Trackback by Overtaken by Events — 10.08.04 @ 11:23 pm
1. Its what Bush didn’t say that disturbs me –
a. That Kerry thought so little of US intelligence that he missed ¾ of his Intelligence Committee meetings.
b. That the “Rush to War” entailed 17 UN Resolutions over 12 years. Whenever Hussein wanted to hide weapons, he did so, whenever he wanted to kick inspectors out he did so. The UN would then pass another resolution.
c. That the only man in the last 60 years who has actually USED WMD is Hussein.
d. That our “Traditional Allies” were to busy stuffing their pockets with bribed oil money to ever consider aiding us in Iraq.
e. That any stand on Kyoto would be superfluous, as the entire Senate (99 to 0 as I recall) voted against it.
2. Did anyone count the number of times Kerry said “Plan”?
3. No one should forget, amidst the flurry of political gamesmanship, that John Kerry is a traitor son-of-a-bitch with American blood on his hands.
Comment by Rick Bridgeman — 10.08.04 @ 11:23 pm
SCSIwuzzy, how do you read in my comments that I am against religion? My remarks were about bearing false witness, and name-calling of people one has never met. No religious person would do either. Religion comes from a Latin word meaning “to bond to” or to “adhere”. It’s not a label, it’s a way of life. The Book of James says if one is not living one’s religion, that religion is bankrupt. (Jesus said “ye shall know them by their fruits”). After all, what is faith w/o works?
Comment by Bijan C. Bayne — 10.08.04 @ 11:23 pm
This thread is now closed. Please submit your after-debate assessment in the latest post. Thanks for participating!
Comment by La Shawn — 10.08.04 @ 11:23 pm
Debate Blogging
I’ve got a lot of debate postmortems to read, not to mention that I need to watch a replay of the debate beforehand. The following are on my list (by no means a complete one). LaShawn and Hindrocket of
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