Two More Weeks! Two More Weeks!

by La Shawn on October 19, 2004

in Liberals - Kerry

Kerry…of John Kerry, I hope! Please, please, please don’t let Kerry win!

I was glad to see one of Kerry’s fellow liberals cutting him down in…the New York Times. Good stuff. According to David Brooks (reg. req.):

John Kerry wasn’t nominated because of his sparkling personality. He wasn’t nominated because of his selfless commitment to causes larger than himself. He was nominated because he’s a fighter. At the end of every campaign he comes out brawling. This was the guy who could take on Bush.

So nobody could imagine how incompetent, crude and over-the-top Kerry has been in this final phase of the campaign. At this point, smart candidates are launching attacks that play up the doubts voters already have about their opponents. Incredibly, Kerry is launching attacks that play up doubts voters have about him. Over the past few days, he has underscored the feeling that he will say or do anything to further his career.

*Laughing and sliding out of chair over both paragraphs*

Kerry’s third attack is the whole Mary Cheney thing. That’s been hashed over enough. But remarkably, Kerry has not apologized. You use somebody’s daughter to attack the father and his running mate. The parents are upset. The only decent thing is to apologize. If anything, an apology would make Kerry look admirable. But Kerry, in his permanent attack dog mode, can’t do the decent and politically advantageous thing.

Kerry’s being chided about decency from a liberal! Well I never…

Bush’s key vulnerability is that people fear he is in over his head. By lashing out wildly, Kerry muddles all that. Instead his blunderbuss approach suggests a candidate devoid of perspective, driven by unattractive and naked ambition.

Why is he doing this? First, because in the insular Democratic world, George Bush is presumed to be guilty of everything, so the more vicious you can be about him, the better everybody feels.

But there is a deeper assumption, which has marred Democratic politics for years. Some Democrats have been unable to face the reality that people have been voting for Republicans because they agree with them. So these Democrats have invented the comforting theory that they’ve been losing because they are too virtuous for the country.

As long as he wants to share his thoughts on Kerry, David Brooks can comment on my blog anytime.

Update: Spoil my fun, why don’t you? So Brooks is not a liberal; he’s NYT’s token conservative?

{ 67 comments }

SCPanther 10.19.04 at 1:13 pm

I share your amusement at Mr. Brooks comments, but c’mon, La Shawn… two weeks?

We should be so lucky!

I’m just hoping the election’s over in time to watch March Madness.

Rick 10.19.04 at 1:19 pm

As the saying goes – if it ain’t close, they can’t cheat. The problem is that with dead constituents, illegal aliens and felons voting, it might be close.

Pat in NC 10.19.04 at 1:50 pm

He has Kerry pegged.

lyle 10.19.04 at 2:31 pm

LaShawn, I think David Brooks is a token Republican (along with William Safire). The NYT’s editors hunted high and low for a courteous and profound conservative to balance their stable of shallow, uninformed, thuggish, stream-of-semi-consciousness liberals. No wonder he makes sense.

mj 10.19.04 at 2:31 pm

Brooks isn’t a liberal, he’s the token “conservative”. He is between a right leaning centrist and moderate conservative.

lyle 10.19.04 at 2:41 pm

The last paragraph you quote is especially on target.

Liberals attribute their losses to an excess of nobility and nuance. They know they are smarter and more virtuous than Republicans. They just couldn’t be losing fair and square. No matter what the verifiable facts are, Republicans must be cheating.

Therefore, Democrats are justified in cheating, too. In fact, it’s a moral obligation. It’s their patriotic duty. They have a right to cheat.

Jim 10.19.04 at 3:04 pm

My head hurts, literally hurts, and my heart sinks to depths of despair, when I contemplate a “Kerry Administration”; I couldn’t even bring myself to put President in front of his name….I’ll be so glad when this is over. Every 4 years I completely lose faith in the American Public….how can the country be split down the middle? How can Black Americans support the empty promises of the Democrats; Democrats get the majority of the Black vote and after over 40 years of loyalty, Black American children can look forward to worse educational opportunities than ever; the Dem’s have fostered a culture of dependence and despair. I have absolutely no confidence there is such a thing as an “informed vote”. I listened to Sean Hannity the other day and in one of his segments he interviews “man on the street” and it is disheartening to hear him ask 19 and 20 year old people if they know who the candidates are, (they don’t), ask who the current Vice President is, (don’t know), and asked if they support stem cell research, (what’s that?) and finally, who are you voting for: John Kerry!!!!! “Cuz he’s going to stop the war”. Nope, no faith in the American Public at all. I fear I’m a real dinosaur!!

meep 10.19.04 at 3:14 pm

In NYC, David Brooks is not considered a liberal… as others have noted, he’s the token Republican – an “alternate voice” for the Times’ Op-Ed page. But keep in mind Brooks is a conservative as much as Mike Bloomberg is a conservative. So yeah, to most of the country, he’d be considered liberal. At least the WSJ can scare up a liberal for their Op-Ed page who’s really liberal (Al Hunt).

meep 10.19.04 at 3:18 pm

Jim – do not despair. Lots of these kids won’t show up to vote. I show up to vote at 6:30am, first person (other than pollworkers) there. The kids won’t come until much later, and then there will be lines…long lines. Do you think these non-committed people will decide it’s worth a couple hours waiting to make a vote? Nope. They’ll just walk away. They’ll bitch about it the next day, but who cares. The end result is the same.

george moeller 10.19.04 at 3:33 pm

david brooks is not a liberal.

Lola 10.19.04 at 3:47 pm

Meanwhile, check this out . . . “Bush Doubles Support Amongst Blacks” news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=694&u=/ap/20041019/ap_on_el_pr/blacks_poll_3&printer=1). 69% Kerry 18% Bush and that’s without active effort by the Republicans to increase support.

Raymond C. Coleman 10.19.04 at 3:54 pm

I voted for President George W. Bush yesterday in Florida!!!!

John C James III 10.19.04 at 4:01 pm

Hey – You voted yesterday? How’s that work? This early voting thing.

Raymond C. Coleman 10.19.04 at 4:08 pm

Florida has an early voting program (for the next two weeks)as does a few other states. Check with your Supervisor of elections. It was pretty cool.

Democrats hate it because it is now more convenient for people who work (tend to be Republicans) to get to the polls without having to rush in the morning or stand in line late on Election Day.

Raymond C. Coleman 10.19.04 at 4:14 pm

WOW! That was a zinger from an unexpected source.

DagneyT 10.19.04 at 4:21 pm

La Shawn, I heard from a girlfriend in SoCal today, at a college where she is employed, her lib co-workers are being suspiciously quiet about the election, as though they already know it’s lost. I think lots of donks are just going to stay home!

Raymond C. Coleman 10.19.04 at 4:29 pm

Yahoo News

Poll: Bush Doubles Support Among Blacks

Tue Oct 19,12:47 PM ET

By GENARO C. ARMAS, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON – President Bush (news – web sites) has doubled his support among blacks in four years and Sen. John Kerry (news – web sites)’s backing among the key Democratic voting bloc is down slightly from the support Al Gore (news – web sites) won in 2000, according to a poll released Tuesday.

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Latest Headlines:
· Capturing Zarqawi tops Bush’s list
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· Bush, Kerry Spar on Flu, Social Security
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· AdWatch: 9/11 Widow Campaigns for Kerry
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All Election Coverage

The Democratic presidential nominee holds a nearly 4-to-1 margin over Bush in the poll by the Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies, a Washington-based research group that focuses on issues concerning blacks.

Bush got low marks for his handling of the war in Iraq (news – web sites) and his overall job performance. The Republican incumbent did gain more support than in 2000 from those age 50 and older and those who consider themselves Christian conservatives.

That helped the president narrow the still sizable gap with Kerry among blacks, who preferred the four-term Massachusetts senator over Bush, 69 percent to 18 percent. The group’s poll before the 2000 election found Gore with a 74 percent to 9 percent lead over Bush.

Polls differ on the level of support for Bush among blacks. An Associated Press-Ipsos poll in mid-September found that 80 percent of registered black voters backed Kerry while 7 percent supported Bush.

Exit polls in 2000 showed Gore winning 90 percent of the black vote, with Bush at 9 percent — the lowest support for a Republican presidential candidate since Barry Goldwater garnered 6 percent in 1964.

Michael Whouley, general election manager for the Democratic National Committee (news – web sites), said internal polling didn’t reflect the Joint Center’s results. “I think on Election Day you will see record numbers (of black voters) go to the polls and vote for John Kerry,” he said.

The Joint Center poll of 1,642 adults was conducted Sept. 15-Oct. 10, four days before the third and final presidential debate, and had a margin of error of 3.5 percentage points.

The survey included two samples — a general population sample of 850 adults and one of 850 blacks. There were 58 black respondents whose answers were part of both samples.

While Kerry hopes to counter any erosion in support among blacks, he also needs a large turnout among black Democrats to win battleground states such as Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania.

The poll found Kerry receiving as much or more support than Gore among those age 18 to 25, those with less than a high school diploma and those making $60,000 or less.

But Kerry had 49 percent support from black Christian conservatives, down from the 69 percent Gore enjoyed in 2000. Bush was at 36 percent among the group this year, more than tripling the 11 percent he got four years ago.

Republican officials say they are making an effort this year to reach out to the black community. Campaign aides have cited Bush’s support of school vouchers, public money that can be used to help pay private school tuition, and support of a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage as issues that might win him more black votes.

About 48 percent of blacks surveyed supported vouchers, the same percentage as in the general population, according to the Joint Center poll. About 46 percent of blacks said there should be no recognition of a gay couple’s relationship, compared with 37 percent for the population overall.

WayneB 10.19.04 at 4:52 pm

Raymond,

Look at this quote from your post:
The poll found Kerry receiving as much or more support than Gore among those age 18 to 25, those with less than a high school diploma and those making $60,000 or less.

The immature, undereducated, and less affluent support Kerry more. Tell you anything?

Seems to me, as you mature, get more education, and/or have more income to protect, you start leaning toward Bush…

Prakk 10.19.04 at 4:58 pm

I voted, already, straight down the line Republican. Including the guy in my Bible Study running for the state house.

Hugh McBryde

Raymond C. Coleman 10.19.04 at 5:01 pm

And WayneB, you would be most correct! The last things Democrats want us to do is grow up! Cuz then we won’t need them anymore.

Jim R 10.19.04 at 5:12 pm

La Shawn was having so much fun and a good laugh, I just couldn’t tell her Brooks was a NY(soft) conservative. I mean who would have known such a creature still roamed in the territory of NY?

So for those of you that just couldn’t keep the secret, you have been sentenced to a forced viewing of Barbara Streisand’s “Yentl”. All four hours of it.

This should learn ya’.

Mark Slater 10.19.04 at 5:32 pm

I wonder if conservatives — of whatever degree — aren’t guilty of the same thing.. granting hero in white status to Bush merely for the extreme distaste for the Democrats and all they represent, as embodied in Kerry.

Rob W 10.19.04 at 5:59 pm

Mark, I think you’ve hit it on the head. Bush’s record is terrible. Biggest deficit ever. (blames the recession, not his tax cuts), the mess in Iraq, Iran on the warpath (they endorsed Bush today), Net job loss for the first time in 75 years, and the government payroll has ballooned. However conservatives prefer to see none of this. That said, I think Kerry has his own problems. But these problems are nothing compared to the unmitigated disaster that is Bush.

lyle 10.19.04 at 6:07 pm

Jim, I didn’t want our heroine to labor under the misapprehension that there’s an honest liberal at the NYT. It’s like believing in leprechauns. But “Yentl”? Why not just drive a railroad spike through my skull?

Raymond C. Coleman 10.19.04 at 6:12 pm

Rob W. How does that koolaid taste?

lyle 10.19.04 at 6:19 pm

Rob, As a percentage of GDP (the only grownup way to measure it) the deficit is slightly above average. The Iraq war is difficult, but it’s only a mess if you’re confused and uninformed. Iran has been ‘on the warpath’ since the fall of the Shah, largely via global terror. There is no net job loss; check the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

You’re right about one thing. Conservatives prefer not to see what isn’t there.

Jim R 10.19.04 at 6:33 pm

He and Reagan have freed more people than George Washington, Martin Luther King, and Gandi combined.

Kerry, on the other hand, given his chance to free people….well, let’s not go there anymore.

Adjoran 10.19.04 at 6:36 pm

Lyle ~ “stream-of-semi-consciousness liberals.”

I love it! How very apt!

susan 10.19.04 at 6:45 pm

I’m with the ‘please, please, please don’t let Kerry win’ thought.

Rob W.

Really that whole ‘net job lose’ is not only false, it is tired, stale and perpetuates defeatism. By the way, if you are going to relay this type of campaign message at least be consistant. Six months ago your Collective was saying ‘in 70 years’ and now it’s ‘75 years’.

That said, if you really want to know a president who was a proven unmitigated disaster look at the Carter administration, those were days of hyper-inflation, high unemployment, high gas prices, shoving the poor in cheaply constructed buildings then ignoring them, oh yeah… also, Americans were held hostage in Iran and Carter set the disasterous policy appeasement and accomodating Islamic Terrorism.

Compared to those days, we are living a very good life. Everyday I thank God for President Bush.

Raymond C. Coleman 10.19.04 at 7:09 pm

Just for fun…

How they will be remembered.

• Franklin Delano Roosevelt, “The Father of American Socialism”
• George Washington, “The Father of Our Nation”
• John F. Kennedy, “The Democrat With a Spine”
• Richard Nixon, “Brilliant Failure”
• Gerald Ford, “Mr. Irrelevant”
• Jimmy Carter, “The Great Capitulator”
• Ronald Reagan, “The Great Communicator”
• George H.W. Bush, “The Great Zooker: He couldn’t hold a lead”
• Bill Clinton, “The Great Fornicator” or “King of the Negroes”
• George W. Bush, “The Great Destroyer”
• Gens. George S. Patton, Colin Powell, Norman Schwarzkoff and Tommy Franks, “The Great Warriors”
• Senators Al Gore-John Kerry, “The Fathers of American Election Chaos”
• Rev. Jesse Jackson, “The Great Hypocrite”
• Rev. Al Sharpton, “America’s Cartoon Character”
• Sen. Tom Daschle, “The Great Obstructionist”
• Gov. Howard Dean, “The Screaming Demon”
• Sen. John Edwards, “The Great “Healer””
• Sen. Hillary Clinton, “The Arkansas Death Witch”
• Sen. Ted Kennedy” “Great Fish Who Drinks”
• Theresa Heinz Kerry, “ La Boca Grande”
• Sen. John McCain, “The Great Cry Baby”
• Senators, Chafee, Specter, Snowe and Collins, “The Great RINOS”
• Sen. John Jeffords, “Modern Benedict Arnold”
• Judge Roy Moore, “The Man with Principle”
• Ranger Pat Tillman, “Man of Honor”
• PFC Jessica Lynch, “Hype-Girl”
• Sandy Berger, “Hot Pants”
• PFC Lyndie England, “Li’l Nasty Girl”
• Sen. Dianne Feinstein, “Gun Girl”

Ok, I’m tired now.

Raymond C. Coleman
Tampa, FL

Jim R 10.19.04 at 7:12 pm

Rob: “But “Yentl”? Why not just drive a railroad spike through my skull?”

If you believe the punishment too cruel and unusual, you may appeal to La Shawn for the spike instead. My guess is she prefers you live, at least until November 3.

Jim R 10.19.04 at 7:18 pm

Correction to previous. Should have been response to Lyle:

lyle 10.19.04 at 7:34 pm

Allow me to be an infomaniac for a minute:

For anyone who cares, the Bureau of Labor Statistics says that total employment in January 2001 was 136.000 million. Total employment in September 2004 was 139.5 million (and will certainly be revised upward).

For those of us who can add and subtract, that’s 3.5 million additional jobs under George Bush despite a recession and 9/11.

Raymond C. Coleman 10.19.04 at 7:38 pm

Lyle,

and that would be the Home Survey numbers that count those who started their own businesses and employed themselves. That particular stat is like holy water to a vampire as it pertains to Democrats.

Did I mention that many of those are also the ones making over 200K that fluff boy wants to tax?

Shari 10.19.04 at 8:18 pm

I just wanted to say in regard to the tax cuts the top 20% pays 80% of the taxes. We encourage the “America Dream”, to go out and work hard and build a business and take care of your family. Then we want to punish you for it just because you don;t want to live off of entittlements. Also small business do exist. They are also raising families and they;re kids cant get financial aid or other services because it looks as if they are rich.

Kerry endorsments: Arafat, Iranian terrorist group
are those the “forgeign leaders” he keeps talking about
he also endorsed by an organization called “Godless America”

Jim 10.19.04 at 8:20 pm

Meep,
I would love to have “informed” yound voters show up and vote…certainly I would prefer that their having been informed included being conservative, but at least be informed and half-way intelligent. Point well taken though; of course I was exaggerating a bit to make a point, but definitely will be glad when “W” wins. Thanks for the encouragement.

Phil Dillon 10.19.04 at 8:45 pm

I will be voting a straight Republican ticket for the first time in my life this year. I had a Democratic candidate for state senate come by my house yesterday to try to get my vote. I told here what I ( a Boston, Kennedy Democrat) was doing and she said she wished the Democrats could do something to get my vote back. I told her that they needed to return to values and to stop treating constituents as if they were property. I expected some response but got nothing. I took that to mean that she (and by extension the Democratic party) really doesn’t. They have a constituency that does not include me and other conservative democrats like me. It’s as simple as that.

Mojave Mark 10.19.04 at 9:05 pm

I see Rob is parroting the dem talking point about the deficit as being the worst it’s ever been… wimper-wimper-wimper (gasp) sob (sniffle). Reality Check… As a percentage of the GDP, a meaningful statistic which compares apples to apples, the deficit is much less than Reagan’s deficit. Reagan’s deficit ignited the greatest period of economic growth this country has ever know and we we out of it in a few years. Bush’s deficit is the same. Despite Glum and Glummers depiction of our children paying it off in their 80’s it will be paid off (barring another catastrophe) nearly by the end of the decade. The dems said the SAME thing about Reagan that they’re saying now about Bush. They just don’t understand basic economics beyond what will fit on a bumper sticker. Reagan had a degree in guess what? ECONOMICS! Bush has a masters degree in guess what? BUSINESS! I’m so tired of know nothings ruminating over the same tired talking points. Me, I’m fasting and praying for Bush today. How about it my fellow believers? Why don’t you go a day without food and pray for God’s will in this election. God’s not political but He does fully support the one whose heart is completely His.

Wade 10.19.04 at 9:12 pm

I am hoping for a fresh start with John Kerry. The Bush Corporations failures and excesses are too obvious. Bush can try to run but can nver hide from his mistakes

Kerry 04!

Mark Slater 10.19.04 at 9:25 pm

Perhaps people misunderstood where I came from. I am a conservative, and a radical one at that (by contemporary standards). Support Bush if you will, that may not be a bad conservative strategy, but always hold those srews in his fingernails.

This “Bush is terrific” stuff has got to stop, at least after the election cycle. No less than Rush Limbaugh vigourously opposed the President during the ‘prescription drug’ medicare debates, and suffered ratings loss and mush excoriation *from the right* for doing so.

Mark Slater 10.19.04 at 9:28 pm

Also, not that it should all be pinned on Bush, the job loss has been significant. Thanks to globalism and national-sovereignty compromising ‘free trade’ agreements (supported by the *previous* administration) many skilled poeple did lose their jobs in manufacturing and in technology.

Sure, many of these skilled workers did find new work. They are working at Wal-Mart and delivering pizzas.

Mark Slater 10.19.04 at 9:31 pm

Finally, it should be noted that the Reagan deficits occurred during DEMOCRAT congresses. Reagan himself, in state of the union addresses, said he signed those budgets practically against his will. What’s Bush’s excuse?

Andy 10.19.04 at 9:54 pm

Rob W, Wade, Slater, ya’ll better go look at the Bureau of labor stats again — especially the 10-year data points; 1)we did not have a net job loss for the first time in 75 years, 2)Incomes have been growing steadily, 3) Presidents do NOT grow economies. They can run them down by dumb policies that disincent employers, but they can NOT grow jobs, they can only incent employers!

If all the incentives are there for growth and it doesn’t happen as expected, then there are other factors at work globally which are beyond POTUS’s control, let alone say so. All in all, Bush has done a good job against the odds and turened a catastrophe into a mild recession.

Instead of spouting sKerry’s lies spun as truth, why don’t ya’ll cite some truths?

I’ll even point ya’ll at two cites so ya’ll can see the truth for yourself: BLS 10-year stats, bls.gov
& CIA Factbooks, cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook

If ya’ll still can’t see it, then I’d wager that ya’ll might be unqualified to comment on the economy. I’d also advise you to go back to your school(s) and demand a refund for failing to properly equip you for being a productive member of society.

Old Patriot 10.19.04 at 10:10 pm

A friend of mine from Maine emailed me a couple of days ago – the day after the debate, or the next day, I can’t remember – and said to hold on to my chair, because Kerry is going to get REALLY, REALLY UGLY. Apparently that’s the way he campaigns if he falls behind. Anything and everything is fair game, whether it’s true or not. Of course, this time we have the blogosphere to hold him accountable.

John Kerry is lower than the maggots under a dead whale’s carcass, and deserves any “slings and arrows” anyone can send his way. Incredibly, he picked a running mate that’s his equal – if that’s possible. There’s an article on Newsmax stating that he’d recently been excommunicated from the Catholic Church. Of course that won’t make any difference to HIM.

actus 10.19.04 at 10:19 pm

wait, david brooks is a liberal?

Jim R 10.19.04 at 10:24 pm

Us common folk ain’t fooled by a eastern sophistical rhetorician, inebriated with the exuberance of his own verbosity, and gifted with an egotistical imagination that can at all times command an interminable and inconsistent series of arguments to malign an opponent and glorify himself.

Sorry if I lost it again – seeing a counselor.

James M. Barber 10.19.04 at 11:45 pm

Dear La Shawn:

I know about the military (Army) but realize the Marines saved Army POW’s in Iraq. George Patton relied on Creighton Abrams to break German’s hold in the Battle of the Bulge in Dec 1944. He lived to become Commanding General in Vietnam. A young Colin Powell impressed Abrams while doing position above his rank. Major Powell impressed Abrams and General Gettys said “Abe’s happy and who that young major?” Powell had saved General Gettys’ life and other people. It was Powell who put Schwartzkopf in charge of Centcom. He made Admiral Crowe hate him and every Republican running for President since them. Crowe had what became Powell’s job as Chairman of Joint Chiefs of staff. Its all in Powell’s book except for Crowe’s supporting Clinton and Kerry. Tommy Franks started out at private, got married and got in OCS and retired as General. Franks had very bad wounds and desired three purple hearts.
Powell was wounded in Vietnam and does not stress purple hearts. Gates claimed Powell saved lives of fellow soldiers in Vietnam. That is from PFC up to Major General.
Powell’s off-duty impressed me because he studied for GRE and sent things to wife. He bought $25.00 hand-made suit for himself but rest for his wife.
Getting married to Alma Johnson helped him rise to general. Alma was guy magnet 41 years ago in Boston. Her father did not want her to marry soldier and someone from the West Indies by one generation. He quit bad habit of smoking, which is my opion that smoking is bad! La Shawn you can delete my pro Army story. It is the young soldiers, not many generals who do the real fighting!

JMB

lyle 10.20.04 at 12:50 am

When I quoted the Bureau of Labor Statistics, I thought that liberals might feel honor-bound to substantiate their Kerry Kool-Aid claims.

The BLS counts 3.5 million new jobs, and a commenter asserts without evidence that ‘job loss has been significant’. And besides, he claims without evidence, all the new jobs are Wal-Mart clerks and pizza delivery guys.

The same kind of assertion was popular during the Reagan employment boom. It wasn’t true then, it’s not true now.

Mark Slater 10.20.04 at 1:44 am

“Many economists, including economists at the New York Federal Reserve, believe that we have long-term structural problems in the economy not just a cyclical one, meaning that many of the jobs that have been lost to overseas countries are simply never coming back” — Tech Trading Magazine.

Lyle: Sir, I am far from a liberal. Do not construe any ill economic news as an attack against Bush. As we have said numerous times during the previous administration, the President has little to do with the economy at hand. A lagging effect is always to be considered.

I just believe neither candidate has an effective plan for the domestic front, save for Bush’s modest tax cuts.

actus 10.20.04 at 2:12 am

“The BLS counts 3.5 million new jobs, and a commenter asserts without evidence that ‘job loss has been significant’. And besides, he claims without evidence, all the new jobs are Wal-Mart clerks and pizza delivery guys.”

Jobwatch.org has good info. I like that they use as their baseline the jobs that the administration promised, so that there isn’t a charge of a biased manipulation of expectations.

Rob W 10.20.04 at 2:16 am

Mark: You are right about GDP/Deficit relationship. But that doesn’t make it RIGHT. Bush has had full control of the government, with a short exception, for his entire presidency. However, he has never met a spending bill he didn’t like. In fact, Bush has NEVER vetoed a bill. No modern President has done this. Also: answer me this: How can Bush take credit for having the tax cuts make the recession one of the shortest ever, yet, two and a half years later, blame the same recession for the massive deficits his tax cuts created? Can’t have it both ways.

Once upon a time, the Conservative movement provided a necessary counterbalance and reminded us of the importance of personal responsibility and fiscal discipline. Today those laudable ideals are not found in the President or his party. We have a huge deficit and Bush cannot think of a single mistake he made. You cannot deny any of these points. They are facts.

Andy 10.20.04 at 2:21 am

Lyle, I posted something earlier regarding BLS, but obviously it got hung up on La Shawn’s spam trap til morning.

Mark S, sometimes the best plan is really no plan, as in the invisible hand. Will/can it hurt? You betcha, but that’s the way it’s gotta be. Look at the upheaveals as we moved from serfdom to agarian to industrial and now information. I’ve got a few good tables that span from 1994 to 2004 and all in all we are steadily gaining.

We made gains during the Clinton years only because Slick was too distracted with other issues to deal with the economy. Remember “It’s the economy, stupid”? How ironic.

Also are you aware that in the space of a decade, we have almost doubled our GDP while gaining almost 30 million to our population?

The deficit issue is really a canard. If you have a credit card, as long as you have a balance on that card you are in deficit.

According to recent reports, the average credit card holder has about $10K in debt. If the average income is $35, then that is an average deficit of 30%.

So we have a projected deficit of .6 to .8 trillion dollars, so what. As a percentage of GDP, that ain’t much that a few years of discipline wont’t fix.

Also remember that the so-called surplus was never really in the bank, that too was a projection, astral even.

The key to our robustness is education, education, education, not integrity3. And on that front, we’ve been kneecapped.

As for Rob W. and fellow moonbats, their koolaid is as life sustaining as oxygen is to the rest of us.

Janelle 10.20.04 at 3:42 am

La Shawn,

Yesterday, I finally let it out after careful thought and talking to Catholics, reading their sites and found the Bishop is/has filed a class action suit against Kerry.

There is a great book I surely wish would get read by people that want to know more. This author did a tremendous job and did it thougoughly. The book is, Shadow War by, Richard Miniter.

If President George Bush tells everyone exactly who we have surrounding the radicals in Iran where some serious things are going on he would hurt the very men that are camped around in secret places and yes this does mean Bin Laden.

I have a son LaShawn and I do not get to talk to him to often. He is giving his whole being into his job, carries a gun and has a badge. He loves me dearly and when I got robbed while I was at a doctor appointment upon coming home I was terribly distraught. I thought to myself, should I call my son, should I not, would this hurt him knowing Mom had just lost some personal possessions I was going to give my daughter, my son’s wife? I had visited my son’s wife and I was wearing some beautiful gold jewelry and she had no idea when I asked her what she liked she said, your taste is like mine. I had things from my grandmother that served in Okinawa and went there when she became a widow as this country needed secretaries in China and the orient. She had no choice but to leave her daughter, my Mother with relatives during WWII. She started as a secretary and workded her way up to a high security assistant position and worked with General Westmoreland and Hightower. She saved her money an invested wisely and even bought jewelry in case there could be a severe market drop, she was a millionaire by the 60’s and was brilliant.

When I was robbed, I wanted to call my son and had to consider how it might bother him. I called he was somewhere in this country and he sent a band of brothers and special investigators and police to dust my home.

What do people need to know what are men and women doing at any given moment, what do people need to know in such detail that Our President keeps to himself knowing Kerry and the democrats would sell my son out, other Mother’s sons out here protecting us 24/7, while Moms and Dad’s can put there children in to bed at night and read them a story and bend down and say a precious prayer to Jesus.

Why must during this war we need to tell everything to the American public just to scare a Mother like me and thousands of Mother’s that sometimes like tonight I can not sleep because a son of mine can’t call me when he would like to.

President Bush may lose this election because he can’t tell all the nitty gritty like the mind set of Jerry Springer fans, why do the democrats want a Springer update? Why?

I wish my son could put down his badge and come home and go to work for some fine corporation where he could earn alsmot double because of his good sound judgement and sell stocks for a living? Our men and women love their jobs and get so much satisfaction honey, they really do.

Thanks for listening and today in my son’s blog I called Kerry a Jacka**.

Jim R 10.20.04 at 5:37 am

Rob: “We have a huge deficit and Bush cannot think of a single mistake he made.”

Any candidate running for office is not going to admit any mistakes. His opponent knows it would be in the morning headlines. Candidates like Bush are not politically stupid.
This is a non-issue. Think of something else.

La Shawn 10.20.04 at 6:06 am

Thanks, Janelle. I will respond to you via e-mail.

Carl 10.20.04 at 2:19 pm

Kerry’s campaign is turning uglier and ever more negative, and I didn’t need Brooks to tell me that. That is the sign of a loser. Scaremongering never comes from the winning side, and worse, even (God help us), if Kerry wins, it is no way to start a gov’t. The best indicators of what is happening is where the candidates are going, and how the audiences are picking it up. Remember Truman ‘48, who “didn’t have a chance”. But he sure had the crowds, and in the end, made history.

Idler 10.20.04 at 3:12 pm

“Secret Draft”, “Repeal of Social Security”, “Flu Vaccine indifference”, Pro-Kerry Union goon squads at GOP election headquarters (see Florida), Jesse “Moral Indignation for hire” Jackson insinuating vote suppression with evidence as credible as those who’ve been abducted by aliens, etc. etc. etc.

These are the acts of a desparate people. And when people get desparate, they do strange and dangerous things…..

Be safe everyone, please.

On a lighter topic- Ray C., brilliant work on the “how history will remember them” stuff……

actus 10.20.04 at 4:31 pm

“These are the acts of a desparate people.”

I think people quite desperately don’t want social security privatized.

Mark Slater 10.20.04 at 4:53 pm

Rob: I look at it a little bit differently, apart from the ’spur the economy’ vs. ‘running deficits’ debate. It is good in itself for people to keep the fruits of their labor; therefore the tax relief, even Bush’s modest one, is good. I still say an entire re-think of how our National government collects revenue is what is needed.

Andy: “That ain’t much of what a few years of discipline will won’t fix” [also] “the key to our robustness is education, education, education”

All true, but we are becoming an ever more UNdisciplined society, as well as an un-educated one, despite more and more money coming into the government school system. REAL discipline and TRUE education is the key.

Mark Slater 10.20.04 at 4:59 pm

Actus: It is true that the SSI-dependent elderly have been freightened into believing that any privatisation will mean the end of their modest means, but the fact remains that that sytem will be in HEAP BIG trouble not too far down the road.

For the young (30-49) currently in their most productive years, they will have to pay the bulk of the burden for the next oldest cohort, and will have nothing to show for it. The current system is double-mortgaging our and our childrens future.

Andy 10.20.04 at 5:27 pm

Poor John Kerry:
He throws away someone else’s medals.
He drives someone else’s SUV.
He marries someone else’s wife.
And he inherits someone else’s money.

I think we should all vote for him to be president
of someone else’s country.

Albert Einstein once said, “God does not play dice with the universe”, but sKerry appears to have bet his whole lot on this election. Heard the latest from Ms sKerry? She thinks Laura has never had a real job. Go figure!

Jim R 10.21.04 at 8:38 pm

For a little relief from this brain hurting election, at the expense of the politically humorless(you know who they are), GoTo:

http://blog.gleeson.us/sean/2004/10/17/page_of_atonement

And:

http://blog.gleeson.us/sean/2004/10/16/apologizing_to_saddam_is_groovy

Posted by Jim R at October 21, 2004 06:31 PM

Jim R 10.22.04 at 1:50 pm

More apologies are pouring in for Sadamm and the harm we did to him and his beloved country. To view the update of the grief stricken, GoTo:

http://www.jewlicious.com/index.php?p=348#more-348

To apply your own condolances to existing placards, or send your on Sadamm Sentiments Goto:

http://www.forusa.org/

Counselors are available. Bring your own smokes.

Rob W 10.22.04 at 3:19 pm

Lashawn,

send me an email–I can give you a link where you can post NY Times stories to your blog and the reader doesn’t have to register to read it. Its a great thing.

Rob

p.s. I hope you are able to bring yourself to the place you need to be right now.

Raymond C. Coleman 10.23.04 at 11:55 pm

I shook the President’s hand after his speech today in Lakeland. Not a fast “keep it moving” high five either, but a genuine eye contact friendly gesture of respect from a supporter of our CINC to the next greatest President of the United States of America.

He looked me in the eye after I called out “MR. PRESIDENT” and he stepped right towards me and said “Thank you!”

It was AWESOME!!!! The man is for real.

Even though the Gators lost…again, it was a great day.

4 MORE YEARS FOR GEORGE W. BUSH!!!!

actus 10.24.04 at 7:43 pm

‘Actus: It is true that the SSI-dependent elderly have been freightened into believing that any privatisation will mean the end of their modest means, but the fact remains that that sytem will be in HEAP BIG trouble not too far down the road.’

Not really.

http://www.cepr.net/pages/socialsecuritymedicare.htm

Mark Slater 10.24.04 at 9:43 pm

Just went there. I am not convined by the “There’s nothing wrong, la la la” argument but thanks for the info, Actus.

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