Comments on: John Kerry’s Concession Speech

By: The Sparse Matrix

The Sparse Matrix — Wed, 10 Nov 2004 05:21:36 +0000

La Shawn Barber
Sat down and had a good look at La Shawn Barber’s Corner. I’ll be damned if she’s not only one of the sharpest, but also one of the hotest bloggers out there. Nice stuff. For example, she’s got a great

By: Andy

Andy — Tue, 09 Nov 2004 01:31:05 +0000

John P: You can look at La Shawn’s archives for more discussion in that realm.

Another good one where it gets deep is in Jerry McClellan’s blog, Truth Be Told (see La Shawn’s blogroll) It won’t take long to check out his archives as he blogs occasionally goin back to this past Spring, but this is one of his pet topics.

Read those and you’ll know where I’m coming from.

Bottomline, evolution is a flawed religion that conveniently ignores the immutable reality of the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics.

By: John P.

John P. — Mon, 08 Nov 2004 16:32:29 +0000

Andy: I think that your comment suggests that you are a Creationist. I think we need more debate amongst Creationists and Evolutionists. The follow up positions and life strategies follow different suits. For instance, regarding the sex drive, some people feel that lust is the devil inside of them while others see it as an animalistic instinct necessary for reproduction. Shakers used to shake and dance to purge themselves of their sexual desires. Howard Stern argues that being sex crazed is less perverse than being a war monger (although he wanted to bomb the Middle East after 9/11). Creationist’s end goal seems to be to please God and in doing so often try to convert others. Evolutionists goals seem to target a civilized civilization and see social progress as part of the evolution. They reject their animal instincts in order to create a more peaceful society. Creationists reject the devil to please God.

By: John P.

John P. — Mon, 08 Nov 2004 16:24:57 +0000

Andy: I think that a very important question/debate for our country is that of how man and woman were created: through Creationism or Evolution. The follow up positions really seem to follow suit. For instance, the sex drive or lust, is it a basic reproductive instinct necessary for reproduction or is it the devil trying to enter us. The Shakers felt it was the devil and they would shake/dance to purge themselves from him. Howard Stern argues that it is more perverse to be a war monger than sex crazed (although he wanted to bomb the Middle East after 9/11). The issue with the follow up is that if you believe in Creationism the end goal seems to be pleasing God. If you believe in Evolution your end goal is to achieve a civil civilization. Creationists tend to want to convert others while Evolutionists tend to overcome their animal instincts in order to create social models which promote a civil society.

By: Andy

Andy — Mon, 08 Nov 2004 04:47:22 +0000

Mandy, you talk about the God you know. Can you give any evidence of what this God would or would not agree with.

The reason most of us laugh here is because we obviously don’t know the same God. The God we know is the same God that created Adam & Eve, the God of Abraham, Moses’ I AM; who delivered many of Israel’s enemies into her hand, and in turn delivered her to her enemies when she refused to repent; who made David a king; who sent His Son to die on the cross, so that none should perish; and who’s Holy Spirit dwells amongst us and guides us in His ways.

If this is the same God that you claim to know, then I’m shocked, because I never knew Him to agree with what you appear to be attributing to Him. Can you cite some verses on how He agrees with you?

By: mandy

mandy — Sun, 07 Nov 2004 00:40:14 +0000

It’s always nice to hear I can make someone’s day a little easier by making them laugh. Though I may only be a college student and do not understand the way of the world as some claim they do, I do have a heart. I also know that the God that I know would not agree with an eye for an eye or sticking it to someone else before they do it worse to you. Yes, I do know we were attacked first, but it was not Saddam. We destroyed the wrong country and the wrong man. Sure Saddam was not a rightous man, but that does not justify us starting a war with him. But, I guess because he may, possibly, in the near future build weapons of mass destruction that he may, possibly, in the near future use on us we should stop it now.
I also am aware that this is an all volunteer army. And some men would go back if they had to. But what about the underprivelaged kids who joined the reserves to get money for college because they are not as rich as most white protestant males in America? Did they know what they were getting themselves into? Did you talk to them? Listen, it’s nice that you served in the armed forces, I’m proud. All the men in my family have also served in the armed forces are you proud? In fact, I have three friends who are fighting your holy war in Iraq as I type. I respect and love these people just as much as you do, but feel they are fighting an endless battle. There will always be Saddam’s and Bin Laden’s of the world. Does this mean all of our country’s devoted men and women must die because Mr. Bush feels they may possibly be a threat one day. I’ve had family members die in war. Yes, it was brave of them to serve, but it was still death and it was devestating, you glorify and praise it.
Why are you so adamant on attacking? Wouldn’t God want us to defend ourselves instead?

By: John P.

John P. — Fri, 05 Nov 2004 15:35:41 +0000

Dominic: You hit the nail with balls on precision. The issue is Radical Islam. My question is fighting it piece meal going to work? Israel has been trying this for years. I think the way to win the peace is to get middle of the road Muslims to understand that we are not invaders and to see the radical ones the way we do. This is the political front of the war. We need statesman, politicians to get the Muslim leaders to reject the radicals. Everytime we accidentlly kill innocent people we make more people mad. If we have saddistic people in our Military, our Military needs to purge them out quickly. Any man on the face of the earth would fight anyone to defend his family. If a Military person knows of a soldier that has raped any innocent people they need to report it. I know Saddam killed more than we ever did but we need to make the Muslims understand this. Just because it is true doesn’t ensure that they all know it to be true. This again, is the political front of the war. If the president can’t make a clear pitch and demonstrate that we are a kind and loving people, more of our troops have to die.

By: Dominic

Dominic — Fri, 05 Nov 2004 15:02:32 +0000

John P

Maybe you do have a bit of backbone in you? You at least look at the issue of terrorism as an important fight. However, you miss the point that this is a War on Terror and not just on
Bin Laden. If we were to capture and/or kill Bin Laden today, tomorrow would still require us to address the issue of radical Islam. That is the battle. I believe that the Libs see this as a short term situation; I point of John Kerry himself stating that he wants to go back to a time of when terrorism was a nuisance. Terrorism was never a nuisance it was a danger that was never really address which grew into a gathering storm;culminating in 9/11.

I believe our borders are a bit porous. But, I am not sure whats the best way of solving this issue.

By: John P.

John P. — Fri, 05 Nov 2004 14:15:35 +0000

Dominic: I am not a Marxist, I am a patriotic American who believes in freedom and I am a Catholic. I think your passion is admirable and if you met me you’d know that everyone in my neighborhood is safer because of me. I have confronted the scum that try to turn my neighborhood into a jungle. What my concern is when you put blind faith in something even the ones you trust can harm you. If your enemy is smart they will put on your uniform and sneak up on you and kill you when you least expect it. Think about the box cutters, the rubber raft that snuck up on the Cole. We need a smart hunter to catch Bin Laden. If we kill thousands of innocent people in trying to catch Bin Laden we’ve created more problems than we have. How does this end game play out? Do we nuke them???

By: Dominic

Dominic — Fri, 05 Nov 2004 01:51:08 +0000

Mandy,

First, let me preface my comment with this statement. I am using every ounce of God ordained restraint in me to not laugh at your comments.

Now, a response.

You said:
How does a man have so many morals while he commands the guns and bombs which kill many innocent children in Iraq everyday?

The President of the United States takes an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States. Along with that, attacks by evil doers (henceforth known as terrorists) constitute agression against this nation. What you seem to misunderstand, along with liberal friends like yourself, the war in Iraq is a continuation of the War on Terror. Iraq was a rogue nation that was unwilling to abide by the articles of the UN resolutions (1440,1441…etc).

Think back to the months following 9/11. Our nation was fearful along with unwilling to take any chance to of a FUTURE attack. Mandy, this is a cruel world, would you preferred to have waited until the mushroom cloud from the small nuclear warhead engulfed Times Square? How about the sarin, mustard gas (consequently, Iraq had tons of it) or any other WMD be release on the platform of the N or R train right under 42nd St? Notice how I chose new York as my background. All those happy people lying in the streets like cord wood for the media to photograph.

God has ordained the institution known as government. The purpose was to rule in a manner to keep a civil and organized society. He even warns the believer to beware should you step out of line. Trouble begats trouble. Bush, is chosen from among men to perform a duty and he has just as much the right as a Christian to protect this nation as anyone does to not protect us.

Finally, every single individual that is fighting in Iraq have one thing in common: THEY ALL JOINED THE MILITARY VOLUNTARILY!!!! Period. I served in the Marine Corps, don’t remember anyone handcuffing me and making sign any contracts. Maybe this is why many of the same men who have lost arms and legs say that they would do it all over again, and have no regret. It is you and people like you who don’t understand the values of the man (and woman) who is willing to go into harms way, fight and possibly die; whether you agree or not with the operation being performed. Hate to plug my blog but go over there and read some of what I have written. Gain a perspective mandy that is reasonable and rational.

By: mandy

mandy — Fri, 05 Nov 2004 00:59:23 +0000

I have one comment first for Mr. Ernest S. at the top of the comment page. NEWSFLASH Gore did win, then the angry little Republican he ran against decided he would cry Mr. Gore out of office. In the 2000 election America did decide who was president GORE. Then the Supreme court overturned the people’s opinion and made Bush president because he would have thrown a tantrum if they didn’t. Another question I would love to have answered, yet no one seems to have it. For all the born agains who voted for Bush because of his morality. How can a man who has so many morals send many innocent Americans to their deaths? How does a man have so many morals while he commands the guns and bombs which kill many innocent children in Iraq everyday? The closest thing I’ve ever got to an answer to this is that some things must be sacrificed for the whole human good. Well the God I know would not agree with such an incomplete, selfish, and narrow minded answer. We are steadily becoming the kind of people we are fighting against. And this is so scary.

By: Cheryl

Cheryl — Fri, 05 Nov 2004 00:36:29 +0000

I am so disappointed with the way the election turned out. I really wanted to see a change in this world, and I thought Kerry was going to be the one that does that. My heart goes out to Kerry and his strong family. America doesn’t know what they have turned down.

God Bless America (It is going to need it)

By: Dominic

Dominic — Fri, 05 Nov 2004 00:15:14 +0000

John P

You had better be glad that this is not my blog, becasue I’d probably tear into you. Instead, I will point out a few things to refute your socialist mind. You and your lib friends live in a different world called UTOPIA. This this far off land, one which noone can seem to arrive at,there is a system of government that excludes the base natural of man; greed, power, self concern,etc. Well, here in the real world, we fight evil men, henceforth known as terrorists, criminals and so forth. Not to condescend, in this my world, the poor will be with you always. Especially those poor who are overweight from eating too much and driving their $500 car not vehicle, living in an apartment and wearing overpriced clothing to their entry level job because they dropped out of high school. In my world, its the DECISIONS of the INDIVIDUAL which leads himself to a better life(with a whole lot of grace from God). Oh, I am sorry, your UTOPIA doesn’t have a God?

For $300 and the win, who said, “the poor you shall have with you always”? Ahhh,too long! “Jesus” So as you expouse your Marxist ideas,know that these moral majority minded 59 million voting block having all the map covered in red bible toting gun having Americans decided as the WILL of the people Tuesday. Get over it, the populace(i.e. popular vote) has CHOSEN the best candidate: BUSH!

By: John P.

John P. — Fri, 05 Nov 2004 00:01:31 +0000

Robert Y, I said that even though most red states weren’t states when the country was founded that the lives in the heartland more closely resembled that of our forefathers. It wasn’t a knock, conversely, it was saying that you folks might have a closer perspective to those of our forefathers because you live in closer tight knit communities. I will look up your web site. Look up how John Kerry started legislation for the veterans who suffered from Agent Orange.

By: John P.

John P. — Thu, 04 Nov 2004 23:53:17 +0000

I would love an answer on that (number of urban poor vs. rural poor and corresponding welfare recipients). I bet the cost of living is lower in the rural rust belt though. This country needs to balance capitalism with democracy. Capitalism without democracy would yield a caste system and aristocracy. Democracy without capitalism would result in socialism (which stinks) and all talk and no action (like our current United Nations) and a lack of productivity (like Europe). I guess it’s hard to tune the engine with extremists. Don’t forget the G.I.bill after WWII created the middle class. After Vietnam, we didn’t have the same value. John Kerry created legislation to give health care to those that suffered from the affects of Agent Orange. The myth that he doesn’t love our troops is total smear propoganda. Think about if we would have ever found out about Abu Graib unless someone with courage stepped forward. Not every soldier in Vietnam or Iraq was/is saddistic, but unless we can be critical we will never filter out the bad ones. I’m concerned about the friendly fire which is a noticable percentage of deaths in Iraq. I’d rather not have the gung ho “fire, ready, aim” guy; we need a guy who’s smart enough to track down Osama Bin Laden and get in close and kill him with a box cutter.