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		<title>By: D.C. Perryman</title>
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		<dc:creator>D.C. Perryman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2004 18:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Troll alert&lt;/em&gt; - Admin</description>
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		<title>By: Carin</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/11/01/follies/comment-page-1/#comment-9407</link>
		<dc:creator>Carin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Nov 2004 14:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Failed Democratic Policy Town&quot; ... you have me hooting now! But so true.  

Scott, do you want to explain to me how housing discrimination comes into play in Detroit??  Detroit has been under black control (Democrat) since I was a child, and I&#039;m quickly approaching 40.  

In addition, family &quot;wealth&quot; may be a predictor, but another MAJOR factor is family strength.  Heck, no family wealth here (my student loans are finally gonna be paid off this year- YEA!) ... but I did come from a family where not going to college, NOT doing what I was supposed to do, was NOT an option.   I live in a community in Detroit where in-tact families are the norm, not the exception.   Not a lot of pregnant teens here ... people go to school, get a job, get married, keep their houses nice, and do what they gotta do. THAT is the key to success.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Failed Democratic Policy Town&#8221; &#8230; you have me hooting now! But so true.  </p>
<p>Scott, do you want to explain to me how housing discrimination comes into play in Detroit??  Detroit has been under black control (Democrat) since I was a child, and I&#8217;m quickly approaching 40.  </p>
<p>In addition, family &#8220;wealth&#8221; may be a predictor, but another MAJOR factor is family strength.  Heck, no family wealth here (my student loans are finally gonna be paid off this year- YEA!) &#8230; but I did come from a family where not going to college, NOT doing what I was supposed to do, was NOT an option.   I live in a community in Detroit where in-tact families are the norm, not the exception.   Not a lot of pregnant teens here &#8230; people go to school, get a job, get married, keep their houses nice, and do what they gotta do. THAT is the key to success.</p>
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		<title>By: likwidshoe</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/11/01/follies/comment-page-1/#comment-9398</link>
		<dc:creator>likwidshoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Nov 2004 13:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just rename Detroit to &quot;Tax Town&quot; and be done with it.  What...with high city taxes, &quot;living wages&quot;, and other such nonesense driving jobs out it would serve Detroiters right to just be honest with themselves.  Perhaps &quot;Failed Democratic Policy Town&quot;?  Now I&#039;m just being silly...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just rename Detroit to &#8220;Tax Town&#8221; and be done with it.  What&#8230;with high city taxes, &#8220;living wages&#8221;, and other such nonesense driving jobs out it would serve Detroiters right to just be honest with themselves.  Perhaps &#8220;Failed Democratic Policy Town&#8221;?  Now I&#8217;m just being silly&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: La Shawn</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/11/01/follies/comment-page-1/#comment-9393</link>
		<dc:creator>La Shawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Nov 2004 11:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Solo!&lt;/strong&gt; Welcome back to the blogosphere! You don&#039;t know how cool it was to wake up this morning and see your comment waiting in the queue. I&#039;m so glad all seems well with you. I pray for your speedy recovery.

Scott - Just because we think Africa Town is stupid doesn&#039;t mean we don&#039;t understand the dynamics of race, wealth and discrimination. You&#039;re correct in a sense - family wealth may be &lt;em&gt;a&lt;/em&gt; determiner of success, but there are many others. Don&#039;t undercut the individual here. Race-based government schemes to remedy past discrimination are &lt;em&gt;still&lt;/em&gt; wrong despite any rationalizations. The question becomes, do we want to rationalize it? I say no, at least not for me as a black person. It stinks.

Detroit needs to find some other way - legally - to solve the problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Solo!</strong> Welcome back to the blogosphere! You don&#8217;t know how cool it was to wake up this morning and see your comment waiting in the queue. I&#8217;m so glad all seems well with you. I pray for your speedy recovery.</p>
<p>Scott &#8211; Just because we think Africa Town is stupid doesn&#8217;t mean we don&#8217;t understand the dynamics of race, wealth and discrimination. You&#8217;re correct in a sense &#8211; family wealth may be <em>a</em> determiner of success, but there are many others. Don&#8217;t undercut the individual here. Race-based government schemes to remedy past discrimination are <em>still</em> wrong despite any rationalizations. The question becomes, do we want to rationalize it? I say no, at least not for me as a black person. It stinks.</p>
<p>Detroit needs to find some other way &#8211; legally &#8211; to solve the problems.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/11/01/follies/comment-page-1/#comment-9387</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Nov 2004 06:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recommend you read his &quot;Black Labor, White Wealth: The Search for Power and Economic Justice&quot;.  I also recommend that you read &quot;Being Black, Living in the Red: Race, Wealth, and Social Policy in America&quot;.
 
I assume you do know that until recently housing discrimination was the law of the land. I also assume you know that family wealth is one of the biggest determiners of success. And that schools are funded based on local taxes.

I live in nyc where have an rent controlled apt is better than owning an apt. &quot;For an apartment to be under rent control, the tenant must have been living in that apartment continuously since before July 1, 1971.&quot; Well pre - 1971 housing descrimination was rampant in nyc. So guess who gets the advantage of this tax free subsidy in the better neighborhoods with the better schools and social services. (Not black people)
 
The intersection of race and wealth is ignored by liberal and conservatives alike. I advise you and your readers to learn more on these issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recommend you read his &#8220;Black Labor, White Wealth: The Search for Power and Economic Justice&#8221;.  I also recommend that you read &#8220;Being Black, Living in the Red: Race, Wealth, and Social Policy in America&#8221;.</p>
<p>I assume you do know that until recently housing discrimination was the law of the land. I also assume you know that family wealth is one of the biggest determiners of success. And that schools are funded based on local taxes.</p>
<p>I live in nyc where have an rent controlled apt is better than owning an apt. &#8220;For an apartment to be under rent control, the tenant must have been living in that apartment continuously since before July 1, 1971.&#8221; Well pre &#8211; 1971 housing descrimination was rampant in nyc. So guess who gets the advantage of this tax free subsidy in the better neighborhoods with the better schools and social services. (Not black people)</p>
<p>The intersection of race and wealth is ignored by liberal and conservatives alike. I advise you and your readers to learn more on these issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Schultz</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/11/01/follies/comment-page-1/#comment-9382</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Schultz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Nov 2004 05:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>La Shawn,

I look at the situation in Detroit as well as numerous other locations throughout our Nation, and recognize there is a serious need for service within these communities. However, the charitable efforts by the local and national governmental agencies and parties so often seem hollow and self serving.

Neal A. Maxwell, who recently passed away, wrote, &quot;Frequently, we busily search for group service projects, which are surely needed and commendable, when quiet, personal service is also urgently needed. Sometimes the completing of an occasional group service project ironically salves our own conscience when, in fact, we are constantly surrounded by a multitude of opportunities for individual service.&quot; He goes on to say, &quot;We lose ourselves in righteous service and in wise and good causes through a thousand deeds rather than one single spectacular act.&quot;

From my perspective, Africa Town is a selfish attempt at a spectacular Act.

There are direct, obvious, and traditional needs to be met, such as providing food, clothing, shelter and physical care. But there are also more subtle needs to be met. There are people, of all races, with wounded and bruised egos who need to be wrapped in the blanket of belonging. I see the encouagement and support of Faith based activities, by President Bush, as subtle means to meet subtle needs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>La Shawn,</p>
<p>I look at the situation in Detroit as well as numerous other locations throughout our Nation, and recognize there is a serious need for service within these communities. However, the charitable efforts by the local and national governmental agencies and parties so often seem hollow and self serving.</p>
<p>Neal A. Maxwell, who recently passed away, wrote, &#8220;Frequently, we busily search for group service projects, which are surely needed and commendable, when quiet, personal service is also urgently needed. Sometimes the completing of an occasional group service project ironically salves our own conscience when, in fact, we are constantly surrounded by a multitude of opportunities for individual service.&#8221; He goes on to say, &#8220;We lose ourselves in righteous service and in wise and good causes through a thousand deeds rather than one single spectacular act.&#8221;</p>
<p>From my perspective, Africa Town is a selfish attempt at a spectacular Act.</p>
<p>There are direct, obvious, and traditional needs to be met, such as providing food, clothing, shelter and physical care. But there are also more subtle needs to be met. There are people, of all races, with wounded and bruised egos who need to be wrapped in the blanket of belonging. I see the encouagement and support of Faith based activities, by President Bush, as subtle means to meet subtle needs.</p>
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		<title>By: Solo</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/11/01/follies/comment-page-1/#comment-9380</link>
		<dc:creator>Solo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Nov 2004 04:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunarely, city council Kay Everitt has had her hand in the &quot;blame game&quot; in Detroit for many years.  She&#039;s just recently got off that wagon so I can appreciate that.

Detroit is already Africa Town with a non-willingness to pool resources.  So the city suffers.  No more government money so it can be misused, misrouted, and misplaced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunarely, city council Kay Everitt has had her hand in the &#8220;blame game&#8221; in Detroit for many years.  She&#8217;s just recently got off that wagon so I can appreciate that.</p>
<p>Detroit is already Africa Town with a non-willingness to pool resources.  So the city suffers.  No more government money so it can be misused, misrouted, and misplaced.</p>
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		<title>By: Salt1907</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/11/01/follies/comment-page-1/#comment-9376</link>
		<dc:creator>Salt1907</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Nov 2004 04:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s good to get away from the battle for a moment to reflect on deeper issues like this post.  The deeper issues will still be there after the election - possibly worse than before. Click on my name for a brief discussion of how we as bloggers can regroup and rediscover our philosophical roots in the coming months - no matter who wins tomorrow (or whenever the court battles are over).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s good to get away from the battle for a moment to reflect on deeper issues like this post.  The deeper issues will still be there after the election &#8211; possibly worse than before. Click on my name for a brief discussion of how we as bloggers can regroup and rediscover our philosophical roots in the coming months &#8211; no matter who wins tomorrow (or whenever the court battles are over).</p>
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		<title>By: firebird</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/11/01/follies/comment-page-1/#comment-9370</link>
		<dc:creator>firebird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Nov 2004 03:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who do they want JESSIE JACKSON or AL SHARPTON i mean its getting pretty bad when they still carry out illegal racial prefrences</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who do they want JESSIE JACKSON or AL SHARPTON i mean its getting pretty bad when they still carry out illegal racial prefrences</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Roberts</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/11/01/follies/comment-page-1/#comment-9369</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Nov 2004 02:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been preaching the ingenuity, hard work, and determination ideal relentlessly in my minority/majority classroom.  My reward:  I&#039;m called a racist by minority student parents.

Detroit isn&#039;t alone.

I can&#039;t wait to vote tomorrow.  And I especially can&#039;t wait to comment tomorrow night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been preaching the ingenuity, hard work, and determination ideal relentlessly in my minority/majority classroom.  My reward:  I&#8217;m called a racist by minority student parents.</p>
<p>Detroit isn&#8217;t alone.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t wait to vote tomorrow.  And I especially can&#8217;t wait to comment tomorrow night.</p>
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		<title>By: Carin</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/11/01/follies/comment-page-1/#comment-9366</link>
		<dc:creator>Carin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Nov 2004 01:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WHAT do you get when you have Democrat control for 30+ years in a city? Add to that racial preferences for any and all development projects?  WELCOME TO MY TOWN! Sad. I mean, if there ever was &quot;lab&quot; for proof of why Democrat&#039;s ideas don&#039;t work, it&#039;s Detroit.  There is no reason why it is such a failure, year after year. We have stuff ... we have a beautiful river ... we have museums, and zoos - we have a base of industry. It&#039;s just pathetic.   African town ... sigh.  I mean, WHAT is going to be there that you can&#039;t find here already??   But, you know, if they want to put it in Highland Park or something, I&#039;m fine with that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WHAT do you get when you have Democrat control for 30+ years in a city? Add to that racial preferences for any and all development projects?  WELCOME TO MY TOWN! Sad. I mean, if there ever was &#8220;lab&#8221; for proof of why Democrat&#8217;s ideas don&#8217;t work, it&#8217;s Detroit.  There is no reason why it is such a failure, year after year. We have stuff &#8230; we have a beautiful river &#8230; we have museums, and zoos &#8211; we have a base of industry. It&#8217;s just pathetic.   African town &#8230; sigh.  I mean, WHAT is going to be there that you can&#8217;t find here already??   But, you know, if they want to put it in Highland Park or something, I&#8217;m fine with that.</p>
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		<title>By: Kiki B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kiki B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Nov 2004 00:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ooooooooooooohhhhhhhhh...LaShawn has thrown down a challenge.  I bet we can beat 544 comments.  I&#039;m looking forward to getting things started tomorrow.

Are you ready to RRRRRUUUUUUMMMMMMMMMMBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEE!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooooooooooooohhhhhhhhh&#8230;LaShawn has thrown down a challenge.  I bet we can beat 544 comments.  I&#8217;m looking forward to getting things started tomorrow.</p>
<p>Are you ready to RRRRRUUUUUUMMMMMMMMMMBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEE!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Nov 2004 00:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simply put, Detroit is a mess and I gotta vote in the morning.  Call me Dr. NO on any and all inane proposals and personalities on the ballot :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simply put, Detroit is a mess and I gotta vote in the morning.  Call me Dr. NO on any and all inane proposals and personalities on the ballot <img src='http://lashawnbarber.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: The Chainik Hocker</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Chainik Hocker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Nov 2004 00:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I make it a practice never to remember the names of Democrats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I make it a practice never to remember the names of Democrats.</p>
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		<title>By: La Shawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>La Shawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2004 23:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oooh...I know, I know! Was the Democrat Jesse Jackson???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oooh&#8230;I know, I know! Was the Democrat Jesse Jackson???</p>
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