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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/11/04/collide-2/comment-page-2/#comment-11004</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2004 19:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The U.S. government has not banned a single religion in over two centuries.  (Which makes me proud, as it does you, I&#039;m sure.)  Whatever the &quot;ism&quot;, the law allows it providing it causes no harm.
As for imposition, being &quot;willing&quot; and &quot;allowed&quot; are two seperate animals.  
The fact that the school board will be held accountable to its voters or appointers proves the statment in question.  The fact that you will be allowed to organize opposition to the school board decision without government oppression proves the statement in question.

And what of the arguement re homosexual civil ceremony?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The U.S. government has not banned a single religion in over two centuries.  (Which makes me proud, as it does you, I&#8217;m sure.)  Whatever the &#8220;ism&#8221;, the law allows it providing it causes no harm.<br />
As for imposition, being &#8220;willing&#8221; and &#8220;allowed&#8221; are two seperate animals.<br />
The fact that the school board will be held accountable to its voters or appointers proves the statment in question.  The fact that you will be allowed to organize opposition to the school board decision without government oppression proves the statement in question.</p>
<p>And what of the arguement re homosexual civil ceremony?</p>
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		<title>By: MORSteve</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/11/04/collide-2/comment-page-2/#comment-10822</link>
		<dc:creator>MORSteve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2004 14:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;If in our democratic society, we are free to follow whatever beliefs we choose, so long as we do not impose on others…&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

When have you ever found anyone willing not to impose their judgements on others, no matter what their &quot;religion,&quot; be it Christianity, humanitarism, &quot;just-have-fun-ism&quot; or whatever?

Faith without works is dead.  La Shawn&#039;s entry about the school board is proof of that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;If in our democratic society, we are free to follow whatever beliefs we choose, so long as we do not impose on others…&#8221;</i></p>
<p>When have you ever found anyone willing not to impose their judgements on others, no matter what their &#8220;religion,&#8221; be it Christianity, humanitarism, &#8220;just-have-fun-ism&#8221; or whatever?</p>
<p>Faith without works is dead.  La Shawn&#8217;s entry about the school board is proof of that.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/11/04/collide-2/comment-page-2/#comment-10783</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2004 03:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actus, just 2 more cents on the SS issue.  To state that the stock market is unreliable and risky as a matter of building a nest egg/social security is sheer foolishness--even the Bible has something to say about investing and doubling your returns as a wise thing.

The day that the stock market trends down is the day that the US govt will not be able to sustain SS in any shape or form no matter what -- we all will be in trouble, not just here but globally. Shucks, even T-Bills have a better rate of return than the miserable socialist economic gadget masquerading as a social safety net.

Simple economics would say it makes sense to allow individuals to privatise 1/2 of their usual SS taxes  and remit the other half to the govt as a saftey net for the employment-challenged.  The half that I privatize would easily provide me 3 - 4 times as much as SS could ever hope to dole out to me.  

In exchange for that opportunity, I would be &quot;glad&quot; to kiss the other half goodbye, just so I don&#039;t have to hear stories of widdle old ladies living on a pittance, or old men living under a bridge, cause SS only goes as far as sustenance.

While it&#039;s well know that the power of compound interest is awesome, I just can&#039;t trust the govt, ie politicians and bureaucrats, to keep their grubby hands off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actus, just 2 more cents on the SS issue.  To state that the stock market is unreliable and risky as a matter of building a nest egg/social security is sheer foolishness&#8211;even the Bible has something to say about investing and doubling your returns as a wise thing.</p>
<p>The day that the stock market trends down is the day that the US govt will not be able to sustain SS in any shape or form no matter what &#8212; we all will be in trouble, not just here but globally. Shucks, even T-Bills have a better rate of return than the miserable socialist economic gadget masquerading as a social safety net.</p>
<p>Simple economics would say it makes sense to allow individuals to privatise 1/2 of their usual SS taxes  and remit the other half to the govt as a saftey net for the employment-challenged.  The half that I privatize would easily provide me 3 &#8211; 4 times as much as SS could ever hope to dole out to me.  </p>
<p>In exchange for that opportunity, I would be &#8220;glad&#8221; to kiss the other half goodbye, just so I don&#8217;t have to hear stories of widdle old ladies living on a pittance, or old men living under a bridge, cause SS only goes as far as sustenance.</p>
<p>While it&#8217;s well know that the power of compound interest is awesome, I just can&#8217;t trust the govt, ie politicians and bureaucrats, to keep their grubby hands off.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/11/04/collide-2/comment-page-2/#comment-10588</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Nov 2004 21:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LaShawn, this more for your respondants than for you:

If in our democratic society, we are free to follow whatever beliefs we choose, so long as we do not impose on others...

...and if government should be small and not intrude upon the rights of invididuals...

...and if people who get married are not compelled by law to have children...

...then why shouldn&#039;t two legal-aged citizens enter into an exclusive arrangement providing each other financial security?  Like a civil ceremony?

...P.S.  Does marriage automatically mean children?  If so, shouldn&#039;t all childless couples be forced to have kids, or else be divorced?

...P.P.S.  Underaged kids are being forced to marry in settlements in Utah.  Illegal, yes, but it follows their particular religious beliefs.  If they honestly believe God tells them to do so, should our society squash their beliefs for the sake of our propriety?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LaShawn, this more for your respondants than for you:</p>
<p>If in our democratic society, we are free to follow whatever beliefs we choose, so long as we do not impose on others&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;and if government should be small and not intrude upon the rights of invididuals&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;and if people who get married are not compelled by law to have children&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;then why shouldn&#8217;t two legal-aged citizens enter into an exclusive arrangement providing each other financial security?  Like a civil ceremony?</p>
<p>&#8230;P.S.  Does marriage automatically mean children?  If so, shouldn&#8217;t all childless couples be forced to have kids, or else be divorced?</p>
<p>&#8230;P.P.S.  Underaged kids are being forced to marry in settlements in Utah.  Illegal, yes, but it follows their particular religious beliefs.  If they honestly believe God tells them to do so, should our society squash their beliefs for the sake of our propriety?</p>
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		<title>By: Miss O'Hara</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/11/04/collide-2/comment-page-2/#comment-10484</link>
		<dc:creator>Miss O'Hara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2004 14:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*hee*

I think he read a *FEW* of our blogs yesterday morning, LaShawn!  I hit the same issues, as did Kim du Toit and several others.  Good, though.  He has a lot of responsibility since he&#039;s sort of got the power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*hee*</p>
<p>I think he read a *FEW* of our blogs yesterday morning, LaShawn!  I hit the same issues, as did Kim du Toit and several others.  Good, though.  He has a lot of responsibility since he&#8217;s sort of got the power.</p>
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		<title>By: SCSIwuzzy</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/11/04/collide-2/comment-page-2/#comment-10482</link>
		<dc:creator>SCSIwuzzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2004 14:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam Wood,
read harder :) &quot;it’s a Ponzi scheme!!!&quot; is a lot like calling it a pyramid scheme, isn&#039;t it?
Granted, my posts tend to ramble like Dan Rather when the nurse can&#039;t force feed him his meds.  Still, welcome to the debate!
Rice/Powell.  I can&#039;t see Powell running.  He has a great disdain for much of Washington (I was surprised Bush got him to be Sec of State and keep him there for 4 years).
Condi... I could see some hope there, but having never run for national office... that could hurt her.  I could see her as VP, with an eye towards running in a later election.
I am curious who will leave the admin at this point.
I hear Powell wants out, Rummy... maybe, Ashcroft a maybe.  Ridge, definitely out (no tears here).
How about Rudy G, Homeland security director?
Right man, IMO, and it will set him in good stead for a run in 08.
I hear Cheney may move over to a cabinet or advisory posistion... VP CONDI?!?
Well, I need more coffee....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam Wood,<br />
read harder <img src='http://lashawnbarber.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  &#8220;it’s a Ponzi scheme!!!&#8221; is a lot like calling it a pyramid scheme, isn&#8217;t it?<br />
Granted, my posts tend to ramble like Dan Rather when the nurse can&#8217;t force feed him his meds.  Still, welcome to the debate!<br />
Rice/Powell.  I can&#8217;t see Powell running.  He has a great disdain for much of Washington (I was surprised Bush got him to be Sec of State and keep him there for 4 years).<br />
Condi&#8230; I could see some hope there, but having never run for national office&#8230; that could hurt her.  I could see her as VP, with an eye towards running in a later election.<br />
I am curious who will leave the admin at this point.<br />
I hear Powell wants out, Rummy&#8230; maybe, Ashcroft a maybe.  Ridge, definitely out (no tears here).<br />
How about Rudy G, Homeland security director?<br />
Right man, IMO, and it will set him in good stead for a run in 08.<br />
I hear Cheney may move over to a cabinet or advisory posistion&#8230; VP CONDI?!?<br />
Well, I need more coffee&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: actus</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/11/04/collide-2/comment-page-2/#comment-10481</link>
		<dc:creator>actus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2004 13:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re going to have to explain yourself on that one LB.  what are you referring to?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re going to have to explain yourself on that one LB.  what are you referring to?</p>
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		<title>By: La Shawn</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/11/04/collide-2/comment-page-2/#comment-10480</link>
		<dc:creator>La Shawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2004 13:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actus, you leave me &quot;speechless&quot;, sometimes, and that&#039;s difficult to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actus, you leave me &#8220;speechless&#8221;, sometimes, and that&#8217;s difficult to do.</p>
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		<title>By: actus</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/11/04/collide-2/comment-page-2/#comment-10477</link>
		<dc:creator>actus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2004 13:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Social Security privatization will begin. For those still fighting the battle, the war is over. Respect the peoples democratic decision and save yourself stress.&#039;

Part of the problem is that they argued against people using the term &#039;social security privatization&#039;.  Its disengenous to now say thats what you have been elected to do.  Specially when we know people went to the polls for bush overwhelmingly on moral issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Social Security privatization will begin. For those still fighting the battle, the war is over. Respect the peoples democratic decision and save yourself stress.&#8217;</p>
<p>Part of the problem is that they argued against people using the term &#8217;social security privatization&#8217;.  Its disengenous to now say thats what you have been elected to do.  Specially when we know people went to the polls for bush overwhelmingly on moral issues.</p>
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		<title>By: La Shawn</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/11/04/collide-2/comment-page-2/#comment-10475</link>
		<dc:creator>La Shawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2004 12:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ray - You are contributing in more ways than you think. It doesn&#039;t matter to me what a person&#039;s education level is. The fact that you read this blog and have something to say is valuable to me. Even when people disagree with me, I&#039;m still amazed that they&#039;re &lt;em&gt;reading&lt;/em&gt; the blog, despite their contrarian intent.

I learn so much from my commenters, including you. I&#039;m honored that you consider my blog worthy of your time. I&#039;m just as excited about what&#039;s happening, and it&#039;s going to be a blast witnessing it together!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ray &#8211; You are contributing in more ways than you think. It doesn&#8217;t matter to me what a person&#8217;s education level is. The fact that you read this blog and have something to say is valuable to me. Even when people disagree with me, I&#8217;m still amazed that they&#8217;re <em>reading</em> the blog, despite their contrarian intent.</p>
<p>I learn so much from my commenters, including you. I&#8217;m honored that you consider my blog worthy of your time. I&#8217;m just as excited about what&#8217;s happening, and it&#8217;s going to be a blast witnessing it together!</p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/11/04/collide-2/comment-page-2/#comment-10473</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2004 11:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everything the President said he would do, during this campaign just like the first, he plans to do. He doesn&#039;t pander to get elected.

Social Security privatization will begin. For those still fighting the battle, the war is over. Respect the peoples democratic decision and save yourself stress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everything the President said he would do, during this campaign just like the first, he plans to do. He doesn&#8217;t pander to get elected.</p>
<p>Social Security privatization will begin. For those still fighting the battle, the war is over. Respect the peoples democratic decision and save yourself stress.</p>
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		<title>By: Rainmaker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rainmaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2004 11:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good morning Lashawn..
I sent your comments on Bush to my conservative writer friend. You are gaining a tremendous following. Here in Cincinnati we are not used to break away black female conservative and Christian writers. Also thank you for directing me to Michelle&#039;s blog..another refreshing and courageous writer. Without sounding patronizing your blog and it&#039;s contributers give me hope for our country. I hope I am contributing and not just exposing my lack of education. I want to be a part of this intellectual and spiritual movement that I read on this site. It&#039;s exciting. I&#039;m learning so much. But so far my greatest achievement here has been to learn &lt;strong&gt; How to be Bold &lt;/strong&gt;..Thank you Andy.. :) &lt;strong&gt; Life is Good &lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good morning Lashawn..<br />
I sent your comments on Bush to my conservative writer friend. You are gaining a tremendous following. Here in Cincinnati we are not used to break away black female conservative and Christian writers. Also thank you for directing me to Michelle&#8217;s blog..another refreshing and courageous writer. Without sounding patronizing your blog and it&#8217;s contributers give me hope for our country. I hope I am contributing and not just exposing my lack of education. I want to be a part of this intellectual and spiritual movement that I read on this site. It&#8217;s exciting. I&#8217;m learning so much. But so far my greatest achievement here has been to learn <strong> How to be Bold </strong>..Thank you Andy.. <img src='http://lashawnbarber.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  <strong> Life is Good </strong></p>
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		<title>By: Adam Wood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2004 05:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmph.

Well, this seems to be quite the thread.  I may have missed something, but the balance of this seems to be around &quot;privatizing Social Security.&quot;  Everyone seems to be missing the basic, fundamental, colossal failure of Social Security: it&#039;s a &lt;strong&gt;Ponzi scheme!!!&lt;/strong&gt;  I don&#039;t care if it&#039;s David Duke, Lyndon LaRouche (sp?), John Kerry, or whoever else: I&#039;ll knock down old ladies to get to the polls to vote for the person who bothers to come out and admit, and run on, the fact that someday this house of cards &lt;em&gt;must&lt;/em&gt; come down.  The sad fact is that, at some point, one generation will &lt;em&gt; have&lt;/em&gt; to support a prior generation in order to get us out of this mess.

&lt;p&gt;

On a relatively unrelated note, I would like the opinions of others on this idea.  As a preface, I freely pronounce that I am a white Christian male, for the sake of honesty.  So, here we are:

At this point, we conservatives should be looking toward 2008.  It seems pretty obvious to me that the Left will be doing all they can to run Hillary.  So, here&#039;s my question:

A Rice/Powell ticket for 2008?

It seems to me to be an undefeatable ticket, would Colin&#039;s wife allow it (I know, vice-, but his wife has to be equally concerned about it).  Personally, I think a Condi/&lt;em&gt;anyone&lt;/em&gt; ticket is undefeatable.

Thoughts?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmph.</p>
<p>Well, this seems to be quite the thread.  I may have missed something, but the balance of this seems to be around &#8220;privatizing Social Security.&#8221;  Everyone seems to be missing the basic, fundamental, colossal failure of Social Security: it&#8217;s a <strong>Ponzi scheme!!!</strong>  I don&#8217;t care if it&#8217;s David Duke, Lyndon LaRouche (sp?), John Kerry, or whoever else: I&#8217;ll knock down old ladies to get to the polls to vote for the person who bothers to come out and admit, and run on, the fact that someday this house of cards <em>must</em> come down.  The sad fact is that, at some point, one generation will <em> have</em> to support a prior generation in order to get us out of this mess.</p>
<p>On a relatively unrelated note, I would like the opinions of others on this idea.  As a preface, I freely pronounce that I am a white Christian male, for the sake of honesty.  So, here we are:</p>
<p>At this point, we conservatives should be looking toward 2008.  It seems pretty obvious to me that the Left will be doing all they can to run Hillary.  So, here&#8217;s my question:</p>
<p>A Rice/Powell ticket for 2008?</p>
<p>It seems to me to be an undefeatable ticket, would Colin&#8217;s wife allow it (I know, vice-, but his wife has to be equally concerned about it).  Personally, I think a Condi/<em>anyone</em> ticket is undefeatable.</p>
<p>Thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/11/04/collide-2/comment-page-2/#comment-10458</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2004 03:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;As a man that hated for 12 years of my life, it isn&#039;t the way to go. Got to channel it into positive motion.&quot;

Wise and positive words Solo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;As a man that hated for 12 years of my life, it isn&#8217;t the way to go. Got to channel it into positive motion.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wise and positive words Solo.</p>
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		<title>By: actus</title>
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		<dc:creator>actus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2004 03:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;But what happens when there are more people drawing than providing? &#039;

Thats what we save a surplus for.  And thats what increasing productivity helps with.  Thats what increasing immigration helps with.  Thats what decreasing the number of abortions helps with.  and lastly, what us paying more is going to help with.  yes.  this costs money.  it takes money from me and gives it some old person that i dont know.  but you know what? it also means we don&#039;t have terrible poverty among the retired.  

I think its worth it.  And I think a lot of americans think its worth it, though they may have been told that social security needs fixing, they don&#039;t think it should be eliminated.  In fact, a lot of them want it fixed because they want it around.  Privatization is not a fix of social security.  Its a destruction.  Because that is neither social, nor secure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;But what happens when there are more people drawing than providing? &#8216;</p>
<p>Thats what we save a surplus for.  And thats what increasing productivity helps with.  Thats what increasing immigration helps with.  Thats what decreasing the number of abortions helps with.  and lastly, what us paying more is going to help with.  yes.  this costs money.  it takes money from me and gives it some old person that i dont know.  but you know what? it also means we don&#8217;t have terrible poverty among the retired.  </p>
<p>I think its worth it.  And I think a lot of americans think its worth it, though they may have been told that social security needs fixing, they don&#8217;t think it should be eliminated.  In fact, a lot of them want it fixed because they want it around.  Privatization is not a fix of social security.  Its a destruction.  Because that is neither social, nor secure.</p>
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