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		<title>By: Spicedsass</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/11/10/condoms/comment-page-2/#comment-19033</link>
		<dc:creator>Spicedsass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Floods, Soros , Subversion&lt;/strong&gt;
I fear I will never write another well thought out post again if, indeed, I...</description>
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I fear I will never write another well thought out post again if, indeed, I&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mike M.</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/11/10/condoms/comment-page-2/#comment-12171</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Nov 2004 21:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julie, I agree with your comment re: teaching religion in public school.

I believe in God, but I refuse to adhere to ANY religion.  I think religion is a crutch for the weakness of man.  That&#039;s just my opinion.

However, I think RELIGION as a course of study is simply fascinating.  I eat it up.  I am totally fine with public schools teaching religion.  As long as it covers ALL ideas and viewpoints.  So, that means Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Atheism, Paganism....EVERYTHING.  Even those against atheists and pagans often find something interesting to learn by taking such general &quot;survey&quot; courses.  I took two or three religion courses in college and I loved them.  Even though I don&#039;t currently--nor will I ever, I think--subscribe to any one religion, I do believe it&#039;s an awfully interesting course of study and I highly recommend it for everyone.

I come from the train of thought that says we as humans should learn as much as we can about our fellow humans.  Learn about their religion, learn about their culture.  And, yes, though we may disagree, learn about their opposing lifestyles.  I think it only makes us better and stronger in the end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julie, I agree with your comment re: teaching religion in public school.</p>
<p>I believe in God, but I refuse to adhere to ANY religion.  I think religion is a crutch for the weakness of man.  That&#8217;s just my opinion.</p>
<p>However, I think RELIGION as a course of study is simply fascinating.  I eat it up.  I am totally fine with public schools teaching religion.  As long as it covers ALL ideas and viewpoints.  So, that means Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Atheism, Paganism&#8230;.EVERYTHING.  Even those against atheists and pagans often find something interesting to learn by taking such general &#8220;survey&#8221; courses.  I took two or three religion courses in college and I loved them.  Even though I don&#8217;t currently&#8211;nor will I ever, I think&#8211;subscribe to any one religion, I do believe it&#8217;s an awfully interesting course of study and I highly recommend it for everyone.</p>
<p>I come from the train of thought that says we as humans should learn as much as we can about our fellow humans.  Learn about their religion, learn about their culture.  And, yes, though we may disagree, learn about their opposing lifestyles.  I think it only makes us better and stronger in the end.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike M.</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/11/10/condoms/comment-page-2/#comment-12168</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Nov 2004 21:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While teaching abstinence is certainly the best thing, I find it to be highly impractical in this day and age.  Let&#039;s face it: kids want to have sex and they will.  Doesn&#039;t make it right or &quot;morally&quot; acceptable (you conservatives crack me up with the way you throw around the word), but I feel in-depth discussions and sex education can indeed make a difference.  A report came out several days later that said teenage pregnancies are now down dramatically for the first time in, like, 60 years I believe the article stated.

I think this is a clear indication that open sex-ed programs can reduce the amount of sex with teenagers.  It&#039;s certainly more practical than teaching abstinence, which is basically nothing more than a teacher waving a magic wand in the hopes that the students will follow the lesson.

I agree with the cucumber/condom thing.  This is just silly.  As for promoting homosexual marriage, perhaps schools should leave the whole relationship discussion out of the curriculum.  I was raised--proudly--by two liberals who taught me to respect ALL relationships regardless of sexual preference.  I don&#039;t think marriage needs to be taught in public schools no matter the sexual ideology.

What should be taught in school is respect.  Respect for differing opinions and sexual preferences.  You don&#039;t have to like anything, but respect shows us all that human beings deserve more than being called a &quot;f*g&quot; or a &quot;ni***r&quot; simply because one&#039;s religious &quot;superiority&quot; has dictated such.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While teaching abstinence is certainly the best thing, I find it to be highly impractical in this day and age.  Let&#8217;s face it: kids want to have sex and they will.  Doesn&#8217;t make it right or &#8220;morally&#8221; acceptable (you conservatives crack me up with the way you throw around the word), but I feel in-depth discussions and sex education can indeed make a difference.  A report came out several days later that said teenage pregnancies are now down dramatically for the first time in, like, 60 years I believe the article stated.</p>
<p>I think this is a clear indication that open sex-ed programs can reduce the amount of sex with teenagers.  It&#8217;s certainly more practical than teaching abstinence, which is basically nothing more than a teacher waving a magic wand in the hopes that the students will follow the lesson.</p>
<p>I agree with the cucumber/condom thing.  This is just silly.  As for promoting homosexual marriage, perhaps schools should leave the whole relationship discussion out of the curriculum.  I was raised&#8211;proudly&#8211;by two liberals who taught me to respect ALL relationships regardless of sexual preference.  I don&#8217;t think marriage needs to be taught in public schools no matter the sexual ideology.</p>
<p>What should be taught in school is respect.  Respect for differing opinions and sexual preferences.  You don&#8217;t have to like anything, but respect shows us all that human beings deserve more than being called a &#8220;f*g&#8221; or a &#8220;ni***r&#8221; simply because one&#8217;s religious &#8220;superiority&#8221; has dictated such.</p>
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		<title>By: Watcher of Weasels</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/11/10/condoms/comment-page-2/#comment-11854</link>
		<dc:creator>Watcher of Weasels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Nov 2004 05:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Old Switcheroo&lt;/strong&gt;
Many thanks to Cornpone, Slobokan&#039;s Site O&#039; Schtuff, The Shape of Days, E-nough!, Aaron&#039;s Rantblog, King of Fools, Baldilocks, INDC Journal, In Search of Utopia, Alpha Patriot, Belief Seeking Understanding, Ubique Patriam Reminisci, Texas Native, Pi...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Old Switcheroo</strong><br />
Many thanks to Cornpone, Slobokan&#8217;s Site O&#8217; Schtuff, The Shape of Days, E-nough!, Aaron&#8217;s Rantblog, King of Fools, Baldilocks, INDC Journal, In Search of Utopia, Alpha Patriot, Belief Seeking Understanding, Ubique Patriam Reminisci, Texas Native, Pi&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/11/10/condoms/comment-page-2/#comment-11115</link>
		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Nov 2004 21:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Teaching the basics of human reproduction, the biology and physiology of it is fine by me once kids reach puberty and as long as it is done gender-segregated classes (for the comfort of the students AND teachers). However, Teaching kids how to have &quot;safe&quot; sex and moving beyond biology to morality and laying down the liberal mantra of alternative lifestyles is teaching secular humanism, which is a religion. It should not be tolerated in the schools.

Plain and simple: I&#039;ll teach my 3 kids the morality of sex and relationships, the schools can teach science &amp; biology. No cucumbers, no moralizing about lifestyles, no two-mommy/two daddy stuff. I don&#039;t want someone else&#039;s values taught to my kids using my tax dollars, and I would suspect liberals &amp; homosexuals would feel the same way if their children were being taught my conservative, Christian values.

Parents teach morals &amp; values; schools teach the 3 R&#039;s and science. Period. For those whose parents don&#039;t do the job, how is that any different from the scads of things so many fail at today? Is the school to address them all? How would there be enough time? There is no correction for bad parenting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teaching the basics of human reproduction, the biology and physiology of it is fine by me once kids reach puberty and as long as it is done gender-segregated classes (for the comfort of the students AND teachers). However, Teaching kids how to have &#8220;safe&#8221; sex and moving beyond biology to morality and laying down the liberal mantra of alternative lifestyles is teaching secular humanism, which is a religion. It should not be tolerated in the schools.</p>
<p>Plain and simple: I&#8217;ll teach my 3 kids the morality of sex and relationships, the schools can teach science &#038; biology. No cucumbers, no moralizing about lifestyles, no two-mommy/two daddy stuff. I don&#8217;t want someone else&#8217;s values taught to my kids using my tax dollars, and I would suspect liberals &#038; homosexuals would feel the same way if their children were being taught my conservative, Christian values.</p>
<p>Parents teach morals & values; schools teach the 3 R&#8217;s and science. Period. For those whose parents don&#8217;t do the job, how is that any different from the scads of things so many fail at today? Is the school to address them all? How would there be enough time? There is no correction for bad parenting.</p>
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		<title>By: Mariachi</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/11/10/condoms/comment-page-2/#comment-11076</link>
		<dc:creator>Mariachi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Nov 2004 15:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick - the paranoia you are still insisting on is unfounded. Several spies were indeed found out during the 1950&#039;s, as were American spies in the USSR. So what? Spies have been found continually throughout our history. Even, shock horror, Israeli ones. The McCarthy era was nothing short of a witch hunt, with innocent men having their lives ruined, and anyone even remotely to the left being accused of this so called crime. Its important to note being a Commie isnt a crime at all, despite what the FBI thought. They illegally spied on and locked up many members of the legitimate Communist party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick &#8211; the paranoia you are still insisting on is unfounded. Several spies were indeed found out during the 1950&#8217;s, as were American spies in the USSR. So what? Spies have been found continually throughout our history. Even, shock horror, Israeli ones. The McCarthy era was nothing short of a witch hunt, with innocent men having their lives ruined, and anyone even remotely to the left being accused of this so called crime. Its important to note being a Commie isnt a crime at all, despite what the FBI thought. They illegally spied on and locked up many members of the legitimate Communist party.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/11/10/condoms/comment-page-2/#comment-11041</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2004 23:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LawWife-
The age range of my kids is 16 yrs. to 16 months. 


The public school systems have no problem with teaching religion. They have a problem with mentioning Chritianity. The public schools in our area teach about Jewish holidays, teach about Islam, teach secular humanism. I&#039;ve heard of schools teaching Wiccan rituals to &#039;help the children deal with stress.&#039; They teach the religion of environmentalism...not teaching the children to be good stewards of the Earth, but they practically worship the Earth. The problem is that they are willing to teach EVERYTHING except Christianity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LawWife-<br />
The age range of my kids is 16 yrs. to 16 months. </p>
<p>The public school systems have no problem with teaching religion. They have a problem with mentioning Chritianity. The public schools in our area teach about Jewish holidays, teach about Islam, teach secular humanism. I&#8217;ve heard of schools teaching Wiccan rituals to &#8216;help the children deal with stress.&#8217; They teach the religion of environmentalism&#8230;not teaching the children to be good stewards of the Earth, but they practically worship the Earth. The problem is that they are willing to teach EVERYTHING except Christianity.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/11/10/condoms/comment-page-2/#comment-11034</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2004 22:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right on LawWife</description>
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		<title>By: actus</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/11/10/condoms/comment-page-2/#comment-11032</link>
		<dc:creator>actus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2004 22:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;actus - seriously, I wonder about your ability to make connections. The lowly cucumber is replacing a male sexual organ (I think the other word may get caught in the filter) Sexuality misused for entertainment or titillation is porn, as far as I’m concerned. This is titillating rather than educating.&#039;

I know exactly the role it is playing.  Its a model necessary for education.

If porn was meant, perhaps they would have used something that wasn&#039;t so.. . vegetable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;actus &#8211; seriously, I wonder about your ability to make connections. The lowly cucumber is replacing a male sexual organ (I think the other word may get caught in the filter) Sexuality misused for entertainment or titillation is porn, as far as I’m concerned. This is titillating rather than educating.&#8217;</p>
<p>I know exactly the role it is playing.  Its a model necessary for education.</p>
<p>If porn was meant, perhaps they would have used something that wasn&#8217;t so.. . vegetable.</p>
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		<title>By: LawWife</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/11/10/condoms/comment-page-2/#comment-11028</link>
		<dc:creator>LawWife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2004 21:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy - I had to take a second look @ your comments b/c &quot;LLL&quot; in my world is the La Leche League. :D

Good comments, everyone.

actus - seriously, I wonder about your ability to make connections. The lowly cucumber is replacing a male sexual organ (I think the other word may get caught in the filter). Sexuality misused for entertainment or titillation is porn, as far as I&#039;m concerned. This is titillating rather than educating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy &#8211; I had to take a second look @ your comments b/c &#8220;LLL&#8221; in my world is the La Leche League. <img src='http://lashawnbarber.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Good comments, everyone.</p>
<p>actus &#8211; seriously, I wonder about your ability to make connections. The lowly cucumber is replacing a male sexual organ (I think the other word may get caught in the filter). Sexuality misused for entertainment or titillation is porn, as far as I&#8217;m concerned. This is titillating rather than educating.</p>
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		<title>By: Kiki B.</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/11/10/condoms/comment-page-2/#comment-11019</link>
		<dc:creator>Kiki B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2004 21:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re welcome, Andy.  I hope her website helps you.  If you have any further question, she has a link to where you can contact her from her website.  Don&#039;t hesitate to do so, either.  Kraig and Anne are passionate about homeschooling, and they enjoy talking about such things, and helping to direct people who want to homeschool.

If you do contact her in the next couple days, please give her a bit to answer you.  She just had a baby yesterday, so she may not be on the internet for awhile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re welcome, Andy.  I hope her website helps you.  If you have any further question, she has a link to where you can contact her from her website.  Don&#8217;t hesitate to do so, either.  Kraig and Anne are passionate about homeschooling, and they enjoy talking about such things, and helping to direct people who want to homeschool.</p>
<p>If you do contact her in the next couple days, please give her a bit to answer you.  She just had a baby yesterday, so she may not be on the internet for awhile.</p>
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		<title>By: actus</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/11/10/condoms/comment-page-2/#comment-11016</link>
		<dc:creator>actus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2004 20:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Border-line kiddie porn is here to stay.&#039;

Cucumbers aren&#039;t porn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Border-line kiddie porn is here to stay.&#8217;</p>
<p>Cucumbers aren&#8217;t porn.</p>
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		<title>By: firebird</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/11/10/condoms/comment-page-2/#comment-11012</link>
		<dc:creator>firebird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2004 20:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You cant read the bible to kids in school but you can read DADDYS ROOMATE and HEATHER HAS TWO MOMMIES and if you showed VEGGIE TALES or BIBLEMAN you would get fired but i,ll bet they will have prenty of this harry potter stuff in schools or even books on black magic what wrong with our schools is too much goverment</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You cant read the bible to kids in school but you can read DADDYS ROOMATE and HEATHER HAS TWO MOMMIES and if you showed VEGGIE TALES or BIBLEMAN you would get fired but i,ll bet they will have prenty of this harry potter stuff in schools or even books on black magic what wrong with our schools is too much goverment</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/11/10/condoms/comment-page-2/#comment-11011</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2004 20:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick I absolutely agree.</description>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/11/10/condoms/comment-page-2/#comment-11001</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2004 18:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steel-
I salute your honesty and integrity.

Andy-
I think the problem with the current sex education and movie sex is that there is no mention of the effects of STD.  My son works in a hospital ER and they &quot;double-glove&quot; because there might be a problem with a single glove.  The fact is that intercourse or even oral sex with an infected person might in turn infect you.  That is why abstinence is the only &quot;safe sex&quot;.  Condoms provide some measure of safety, but deep throat kissing eliminates that protection just as effectively as a leaking condom.
The facts of life are that sex is risky (with or without condoms) unless you know your partner is healthy.  Sex can produce a baby (not an &quot;unwanted pregnancy&quot;) and you should be prepared for that consequence.
I have no problem with a clinical discussion of the &quot;facts of life&quot; - I just don&#039;t want immorality added in.  I especially don&#039;t want deviant (&quot;alternative&quot;) life styles lauded as &quot;normal.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steel-<br />
I salute your honesty and integrity.</p>
<p>Andy-<br />
I think the problem with the current sex education and movie sex is that there is no mention of the effects of STD.  My son works in a hospital ER and they &#8220;double-glove&#8221; because there might be a problem with a single glove.  The fact is that intercourse or even oral sex with an infected person might in turn infect you.  That is why abstinence is the only &#8220;safe sex&#8221;.  Condoms provide some measure of safety, but deep throat kissing eliminates that protection just as effectively as a leaking condom.<br />
The facts of life are that sex is risky (with or without condoms) unless you know your partner is healthy.  Sex can produce a baby (not an &#8220;unwanted pregnancy&#8221;) and you should be prepared for that consequence.<br />
I have no problem with a clinical discussion of the &#8220;facts of life&#8221; &#8211; I just don&#8217;t want immorality added in.  I especially don&#8217;t want deviant (&#8221;alternative&#8221;) life styles lauded as &#8220;normal.&#8221;</p>
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