Negotiations on the 9/11 Bill resume Mon 12/5/04. The battle is over the removal of the House 9/11 bill HR10 border security provisions, called Title III, from the final 9/11 House/Senate bill.

House Republicans led by Sensenbrenner, Hunter, Hyde and Dreier banded together to stop the bill from going to a floor vote until these House Immigration/Border Security provisions are left in the final 9/11 bill. House Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-IL) supported them by refusing to bring the Bill to the floor for a vote until these House provisions were left in.

Sensenbrenner and company are facing immense pressure from the White House(would you believe!) and the Democrats who are calling them obstructionist!

Please call the people below to thank them for standing firm, and your House(house.gov)and Senators(senate.gov) to tell them you want Title III Border Security provisions left in the 9/11 combined House/Senate Bill.

Rep. James Sensenbrenner WI , Wash 202-225-5101 / State 262-784-1111
Rep. Duncan Hunter CA 202-225-5672 / 619-579-3001
Rep. Henry Hyde IL 202-225-4561 / 630-832-5950
Rep. David Dreier CA 202-225-2305 / 626-852-2626
Rep. Speaker Dennis Hastert IL 202- 225-2976 630-406-1114
Sen. Majority Leader Bill Frist TN 202-224-3344 615-352-9411

Also call our delinquent new Prez at the White House 202-456-1414 and tell him to stop pushing for the Democratic version of the 9/11 Bill, the one without the Houses Title III Border Security Provisions.

Here’s what the Senate and Prez want removed. ALL OF IT!: ilw.com/lawyers/articles/2004,1110-hethmon.shtm

Here’s 911 victims families pleading for TitleIII on Cspan:
rtsp://cspanrm.fplive.net/cspan/project/ter/ter113004_families.rm

Here’s our friends at AmericanHumanists trying to stop them:
americanhumanist.org/press/actionalerts/aa911RIA.html

PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO READ AND SUPPORT BORDER SECURITY.

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The combination of a very liberal State Legislature and a high population of hispanics almost put legal drivers licenses into the hands of illegal aliens.

They’re still trying over the objections of our new Republican Governor Schwarzenegger.

All I know is MALDEF sued to make local school districts educate the children of illegals, and the Supreme Court agreed with their argument. Why I don’t know.

Once Alberto is confirmed, I would not be surprised if MALDEF sues again for illegals here more than 10 years, and that Alberto will support this lawsuit. What you or the majority of Americans want won’t make any difference.

Getting the government to enforce the laws will not be easy. Congress and the President know 80% of Americans want the laws enforced, they know what the polls say and what citiaens with phone calls and letters want. But the business intrests that fund their campaigns don’t want them enforced, so they take priority. If millions of Americans protested in Washington DC, and in other big cities, this might change. In the past, black Americans did this to gain equal rights. So why aren’t Americans doing this now?

As for enforcing the immigration laws ourselves, this is based upon the principle that in the US all power belongs to the people, and that the people give up some of that power to their elected officials and government to enact the will of the people for the common good.

If the government does not use the power given to them to enforce the will of the people, then the people can reclaim this power and enforce the laws themselves, with a well organized militia as provided by the Second Amendment. This is not a vigilante action, which is done without any legal authority. If the proper steps are taken, including notifying the government, having rules of engagement, and only using Citizen non-felons, a well organized militia can legally protect the US from invasion under the Constitution.

From Mr. Binh above:

I agree illegals have no right to be here. However, on the second part, the Supreme Court has decided it the US government makes no effort to remove illegals, then we are obligated to educate their minor children. I am sure that next using the same reasoning they will decide if illegals are allowed to live in the US for more than 10 years continuously, they are entitled to a green card (sort of like common law marriage).
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filled with liberal assumptions….My only question, Mr. Binh, is WHY?

Why are we obligated to feed, house, educate, and otherwise care for the dependents of criminals who shouldn’t even be here? I would argue that we aren’t.

Unless you can present some compelling reason that we are (and I agree these children are victims OF THEIR PARENTS’ ACTIONS, so we should send the entire family home to their country of origin), I’m going to ignore your liberal assumptions.

WE aren’t obligated to do ANYTHING other than removal.

Catz

So it is definitely high time we either demand the government enforce these laws, or start enforcing them ourselves, which the Constituion allows.

Jim R – But of course the law enforcement wouldn’t cross the picket line, now, would they?

This would be comical if it weren’t funny.

Everyone knows that (by and large) children don’t like doing chores. However, the majority do them in order to justify getting an allowance. This is a natural part of teaching your children about earning your way.

Now, however, what if, say, a homeless person walked in the back door one morning and said “I’ll do your kids’ chores for one-fourth of what you’re paying them.” Let’s say further that for some reason you agreed to this – it’s going to save you money, right?

Well, when the stranger gets done with the chores, then he goes into the guest room and moves in. Wait, did you say he could do that? But he points out that “You need me to do the chores that your kids don’t want to do,” so you let him stay.

After he’s been there for a while, eating your food, staying in your house (while your kids complain that they don’t get an allowance anymore, and you counter by asking if they would do their chores for what this guy is being paid, which they won’t), then he gets sick, and tells you that he needs to go to the doctor. If you reply that you never signed on to take care of his health, he replies that you’ve been letting him live in your home, and so you’re responsible for his health, too, so you take him to the doctor, pay for that, plus his medicine, plus take care of him, while he’s not doing any chores, or maybe you pay your children to take care of him.

Later, after he’s better, you find out that he has a wife, who’s been waiting for him to get a good spot, and he brings her and HIS children into your home, and expects you to pay for THEIR upkeep as well.

Finally, your children can’t keep quiet any more, they tell you that this is ridiculous, that they live here and you shouldn’t be making a special place for these people, whose only contribution was to do THEIR chores for less money, and now your spending more money than you would ever have before, because of all the extra things that you have to pay for that you didn’t expect. In response to this, you tell your children that they are mean hateful, inconsiderate creatures that don’t deserve your respect anymore. Any arguments they make you respond with what a shocking lack of compassion they have.

This is the Liberal point of view.