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		<title>By: angels in america</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/01/17/liberal-2/comment-page-2/#comment-18896</link>
		<dc:creator>angels in america</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2005 10:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy,
Do you know anything about your president? Yes Bush got into Yale with awful grades! GW Bush was an AWFUL student at Andover--and since you seem to know so little about anything, Andover was the prep school his father went to, and Andover only accepted him b/c of that connection.

Bush is what is called a &quot;legacy.&quot; And yes, you can get into Harvard Business school  based on connections if you&#039;re a Bush, or come from a powerful family. You&#039;re telling me he got in based on the straight C&#039;s he earned at Yale? And he earned D&#039;s at Andover. Look it up.

I went to Yale, I get the alumni magazine, and know that he was the biggest legacy that ever was (I thought others knew that, too, but apparently not on this site...). At most schools--and Yale and Harvard especially--there is a big push to let in sons (and now daughters) of alums. Many, many allowances are made for &quot;legacies.&quot; Much more than for &quot;diversity,&quot; and more than for athletics. The reason is simple. Alums donate big bucks. Alums have connections, power, prestige, and the Ivy Leagues want to continue to court their support. 

See, La Shawn. This is who you&#039;re dealing with. People who are completely uninformed about their own president, their own party...

And, in case you&#039;re completely outfoxed by Fox, you probably don&#039;t know that despite &quot;Rathergate&quot; Bush didn&#039;t show up for the majority of flight school. In fact, he went to Harvard MBA and tried to &quot;make it up&quot; later. Flight school was his way of getting out of &#039;Nam. He was, however, better than Cheney, who got (at last count) five deferments, and who went on record as saying, &quot;I had other priorities in the 60&#039;s.&quot;

The fact is, even the president&#039;s friends and family knew what a bad student he was. So you all support Affirmative Nepotism for him and his kind. Equality at work.

Re Firebird. I don&#039;t agree with everything Jesse Jackson--and certainly not with everything Al Sharpton--says or does. But I&#039;m quite sure King wouldn&#039;t stoop to your language, telling them to keep &quot;their big noses&quot; out of things...

&lt;em&gt;I&#039;ll just say this, then this thead is closed. It&#039;s skin color preferences that bother me, not legacy preferences. I&#039;m not all that bothered by athletic preferences, either. Admitting/hiring a black person because they&#039;re black is quite odious. If you don&#039;t get it, perhaps you should read someone else&#039;s blog. - Admin&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy,<br />
Do you know anything about your president? Yes Bush got into Yale with awful grades! GW Bush was an AWFUL student at Andover&#8211;and since you seem to know so little about anything, Andover was the prep school his father went to, and Andover only accepted him b/c of that connection.</p>
<p>Bush is what is called a &#8220;legacy.&#8221; And yes, you can get into Harvard Business school  based on connections if you&#8217;re a Bush, or come from a powerful family. You&#8217;re telling me he got in based on the straight C&#8217;s he earned at Yale? And he earned D&#8217;s at Andover. Look it up.</p>
<p>I went to Yale, I get the alumni magazine, and know that he was the biggest legacy that ever was (I thought others knew that, too, but apparently not on this site&#8230;). At most schools&#8211;and Yale and Harvard especially&#8211;there is a big push to let in sons (and now daughters) of alums. Many, many allowances are made for &#8220;legacies.&#8221; Much more than for &#8220;diversity,&#8221; and more than for athletics. The reason is simple. Alums donate big bucks. Alums have connections, power, prestige, and the Ivy Leagues want to continue to court their support. </p>
<p>See, La Shawn. This is who you&#8217;re dealing with. People who are completely uninformed about their own president, their own party&#8230;</p>
<p>And, in case you&#8217;re completely outfoxed by Fox, you probably don&#8217;t know that despite &#8220;Rathergate&#8221; Bush didn&#8217;t show up for the majority of flight school. In fact, he went to Harvard MBA and tried to &#8220;make it up&#8221; later. Flight school was his way of getting out of &#8216;Nam. He was, however, better than Cheney, who got (at last count) five deferments, and who went on record as saying, &#8220;I had other priorities in the 60&#8217;s.&#8221;</p>
<p>The fact is, even the president&#8217;s friends and family knew what a bad student he was. So you all support Affirmative Nepotism for him and his kind. Equality at work.</p>
<p>Re Firebird. I don&#8217;t agree with everything Jesse Jackson&#8211;and certainly not with everything Al Sharpton&#8211;says or does. But I&#8217;m quite sure King wouldn&#8217;t stoop to your language, telling them to keep &#8220;their big noses&#8221; out of things&#8230;</p>
<p><em>I&#8217;ll just say this, then this thead is closed. It&#8217;s skin color preferences that bother me, not legacy preferences. I&#8217;m not all that bothered by athletic preferences, either. Admitting/hiring a black person because they&#8217;re black is quite odious. If you don&#8217;t get it, perhaps you should read someone else&#8217;s blog. &#8211; Admin</em></p>
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		<title>By: firebird</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/01/17/liberal-2/comment-page-2/#comment-18888</link>
		<dc:creator>firebird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2005 02:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If MLK were alive today he would be telling Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton to keep their big noses out of things that dont concern them such as making buisnesses pay money to Jacksons RAINBOW/PUSH and all the time that Big Al Sharpton tried to get blacks to riot when they have better thing to do like work at their jobs and provide for their families</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If MLK were alive today he would be telling Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton to keep their big noses out of things that dont concern them such as making buisnesses pay money to Jacksons RAINBOW/PUSH and all the time that Big Al Sharpton tried to get blacks to riot when they have better thing to do like work at their jobs and provide for their families</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2005 02:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AiA, I&#039;ll respond to just one canard:

Bush got into Yale w/awful grades (must have been snorting cocaine to enhance his performance)?  I suppose he passed OCS &amp; Flight school with bad grades as well?  Then explain how he got into Harvard Business School?

No one gets in regardless of connections unless they have the grade.  Think how devalued a HBS MBA would be devalued if anyone could buy a degree.

Alternatively, sKerry couldn&#039;t get out of the Navy to get into his school of choice since they all turned him down.  He had to reach deeper into the barrel before he could find one that would accept him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AiA, I&#8217;ll respond to just one canard:</p>
<p>Bush got into Yale w/awful grades (must have been snorting cocaine to enhance his performance)?  I suppose he passed OCS &#038; Flight school with bad grades as well?  Then explain how he got into Harvard Business School?</p>
<p>No one gets in regardless of connections unless they have the grade.  Think how devalued a HBS MBA would be devalued if anyone could buy a degree.</p>
<p>Alternatively, sKerry couldn&#8217;t get out of the Navy to get into his school of choice since they all turned him down.  He had to reach deeper into the barrel before he could find one that would accept him.</p>
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		<title>By: angels in america</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/01/17/liberal-2/comment-page-2/#comment-18884</link>
		<dc:creator>angels in america</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2005 01:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>La Shawn,

I understand how upset you are when you say you believe that white people (even though Russell isn&#039;t white) accuse blacks of &quot;getting where they are&quot; because of their black skin--i.e. what you would call &quot;preferential treatment.&quot; 

But I&#039;m a little confused as to how old you are, and when you were born...are you entirely unaware that 30 years ago most whites simply wouldn&#039;t have hired even qualified blacks?  Do you not know that it was Nixon who, realizing this, extended Roosevelt&#039;s propositions to become the third plank of Affirmative action?

It was called &quot;The Philadelphia Plan&quot; (1969) and it set specifc goals for minority hiring. He did this because he knew that without nudging whites to hire qualified blacks, they simply wouldn&#039;t, and what Nixon wanted (despite being no personal friend to blacks) was to expand the black middle class, and bring them more fully into the Republican fold.

One thing that happened, that many people aren&#039;t aware of, is that to gain further support for AA, women were added on, and today, white women are the biggest beneficiaries of AA, and don&#039;t even realize it...

I wish people who talk about AA actually cared enough to do research on it..

I also wish conservatives who talk so mush of &quot;skin color preferences&quot; and &quot;merit&quot; would explain why it&#039;s fine for someone who NEVER would have gotten into Yale w/ his awful grades (GW BUSH) to benefit from white skin color preferences? 

Where&#039;s the uproar? 

That&#039;s why your cause has no merit. When the sides are reversed, conservatives NEVER fight against white skin color preferences that are institutionalized in our society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>La Shawn,</p>
<p>I understand how upset you are when you say you believe that white people (even though Russell isn&#8217;t white) accuse blacks of &#8220;getting where they are&#8221; because of their black skin&#8211;i.e. what you would call &#8220;preferential treatment.&#8221; </p>
<p>But I&#8217;m a little confused as to how old you are, and when you were born&#8230;are you entirely unaware that 30 years ago most whites simply wouldn&#8217;t have hired even qualified blacks?  Do you not know that it was Nixon who, realizing this, extended Roosevelt&#8217;s propositions to become the third plank of Affirmative action?</p>
<p>It was called &#8220;The Philadelphia Plan&#8221; (1969) and it set specifc goals for minority hiring. He did this because he knew that without nudging whites to hire qualified blacks, they simply wouldn&#8217;t, and what Nixon wanted (despite being no personal friend to blacks) was to expand the black middle class, and bring them more fully into the Republican fold.</p>
<p>One thing that happened, that many people aren&#8217;t aware of, is that to gain further support for AA, women were added on, and today, white women are the biggest beneficiaries of AA, and don&#8217;t even realize it&#8230;</p>
<p>I wish people who talk about AA actually cared enough to do research on it..</p>
<p>I also wish conservatives who talk so mush of &#8220;skin color preferences&#8221; and &#8220;merit&#8221; would explain why it&#8217;s fine for someone who NEVER would have gotten into Yale w/ his awful grades (GW BUSH) to benefit from white skin color preferences? </p>
<p>Where&#8217;s the uproar? </p>
<p>That&#8217;s why your cause has no merit. When the sides are reversed, conservatives NEVER fight against white skin color preferences that are institutionalized in our society.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/01/17/liberal-2/comment-page-2/#comment-18882</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2005 00:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Russell, I apologize and take back what I said for any of your comments prior to 01.17.05 @ 6:55pm.

However, going forward from that rant, my statement stands.  When considering executive and/or party accomplishments, it behooves us all to consider the balance of power at the time.  So in response, I&#039;ve created a simple table after doing some screenscraping (thanks M$ Excel)

So w/o further ado:
&lt;strong&gt;Years____ &#124; POTUS_____ &#124; SENATE_ &#124; HOUSE____ &#124; IMHO Noteworthy&lt;/strong&gt;
1927-1929 &#124; Coolidge(R)__ &#124; &lt;strong&gt;46&lt;/strong&gt;:48 &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;50%&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; &#124; 194:&lt;strong&gt;238&lt;/strong&gt; 55% &#124; Effectively doing nothing
1929-1931 &#124; Hoover(R)___ &#124; 39:&lt;strong&gt;56&lt;/strong&gt; 58% &#124; 164:&lt;strong&gt;270&lt;/strong&gt; 62% &#124; Stock Crash. Cuts taxes, expand spending
1931-1933 &#124; Hoover(R)___ &#124; 47:&lt;strong&gt;48&lt;/strong&gt; 50% &#124; 216:&lt;strong&gt;218&lt;/strong&gt; 50% &#124; Economy begins to recover, kneecapped by Europe
1933-1935 &#124; FDR(D)_____ &#124; &lt;strong&gt;59&lt;/strong&gt;:36 61% &#124; &lt;strong&gt;313&lt;/strong&gt;:117 72% &#124; Blame Hoover for recession. New Deal
1935-1937 &#124; FDR(D)_____ &#124; &lt;strong&gt;69&lt;/strong&gt;:25 72% &#124; &lt;strong&gt;322&lt;/strong&gt;:103 74% &#124; Economy begins to recover. Attempts redesign of SCOTUS
1937-1939 &#124; FDR(D)_____ &#124; &lt;strong&gt;76&lt;/strong&gt;:16 79% &#124; &lt;strong&gt;334&lt;/strong&gt;:88 77%  &#124; Good Neighbor policy
1939-1941 &#124; FDR(D)_____ &#124; &lt;strong&gt;69&lt;/strong&gt;:23 72% &#124; &lt;strong&gt;262&lt;/strong&gt;:169 60% &#124; Prepares for war, Lend-Lease
1941-1943 &#124; FDR(D)_____ &#124; &lt;strong&gt;66&lt;/strong&gt;:28 69% &#124; &lt;strong&gt;267&lt;/strong&gt;:162 61% &#124; WWII, brings in CEOs to produce war machines and maximize public works efforts
1943-1945 &#124; FDR(D)_____ &#124; &lt;strong&gt;57&lt;/strong&gt;:38 59% &#124; &lt;strong&gt;222&lt;/strong&gt;:209 51% &#124; WWII. Truman saves $15B from Fraud, Waste &amp; Abuse
1945-1947 &#124; Truman(D)___ &#124; &lt;strong&gt;57&lt;/strong&gt;:38 59% &#124; &lt;strong&gt;242&lt;/strong&gt;:191 56% &#124; V_E Day, V_J Day, UN chartered
1947-1949 &#124; Truman(D)___ &#124; 45:&lt;strong&gt;51&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;53%&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; &#124; 188:&lt;strong&gt;246&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;57%&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; &#124; Expand SS, Fair Employment Practices Act (Fair Deal)
1949-1951 &#124; Truman(D)___ &#124; &lt;strong&gt;54&lt;/strong&gt;:42 56% &#124; &lt;strong&gt;263&lt;/strong&gt;:171 60% &#124; Truman Doctrine, Marshall Plan, Berlin Airlift &amp; Korean War
1951-1953 &#124; Truman(D)___ &#124; &lt;strong&gt;49&lt;/strong&gt;:47 51% &#124; &lt;strong&gt;235&lt;/strong&gt;:199 54% &#124; Korea partitioned
1953-1955 &#124; Ike(R)_______ &#124; 47:&lt;strong&gt;48&lt;/strong&gt; 50% &#124; 213:&lt;strong&gt;221&lt;/strong&gt; 51% &#124; US/USSR develop H_Bomb
1955-1957 &#124; Ike(R)_______ &#124;&lt;strong&gt; 48&lt;/strong&gt;:47 &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;50%&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; &#124; &lt;strong&gt;232&lt;/strong&gt;:203 &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;53%&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; &#124; Proposes arms verification w/USSR
1957-1959 &#124; Ike(R)_______ &#124;&lt;strong&gt; 49&lt;/strong&gt;:47 &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;51%&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; &#124; &lt;strong&gt;234&lt;/strong&gt;:201 &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;54%&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; &#124; Desegregation of military &amp; schools accelerated -- &#039;There must be no second class citizens in this country&#039;
1959-1961 &#124; Ike(R)_______ &#124; &lt;strong&gt;65&lt;/strong&gt;:35 &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;65%&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; &#124; &lt;strong&gt;283&lt;/strong&gt;:153 &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;65%&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; &#124; Atoms for Peace program
1961-1963 &#124; JFK(D)______ &#124; &lt;strong&gt;64&lt;/strong&gt;:36 64% &#124; &lt;strong&gt;263&lt;/strong&gt;:174 60% &#124; Bay of Pigs, Cuban Missles, To the Moon, tax cuts, sends advisors to &#039;Nam
1963-1965 &#124; LBJ(D)______ &#124; &lt;strong&gt;66&lt;/strong&gt;:34 66% &#124; &lt;strong&gt;259&lt;/strong&gt;:176 60% &#124; Civil Rights, Tax Cuts, increased spending
1965-1967 &#124; LBJ(D)______ &#124; &lt;strong&gt;68&lt;/strong&gt;:32 68% &#124; &lt;strong&gt;295&lt;/strong&gt;:140 68% &#124; Great Society program
1967-1969 &#124; LBJ(D)______ &#124; &lt;strong&gt;64&lt;/strong&gt;:36 64% &#124; &lt;strong&gt;247&lt;/strong&gt;:187 57% &#124; Nam, Black ghetto unrest
1969-1971 &#124; Nixon(R)____ &#124; &lt;strong&gt;57&lt;/strong&gt;:43 &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;57%&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; &#124; &lt;strong&gt;243&lt;/strong&gt;:192 &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;56%&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; &#124; Moon landing, revenue sharing, draft ended
1971-1973 &#124; Nixon(R)____ &#124; &lt;strong&gt;54&lt;/strong&gt;:44 &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;54%&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; &#124; &lt;strong&gt;255&lt;/strong&gt;:180 &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;59%&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; &#124; Engage Peking/Moscow, disengage Nam, Egypt/Syria vs Israel
1973-1975 &#124; Nixon/Ford(R) &#124; &lt;strong&gt;56&lt;/strong&gt;:42 &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;56%&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; &#124; &lt;strong&gt;242&lt;/strong&gt;:192 &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;56%&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; &#124; Watergate, resigns
1975-1977 &#124; Ford(R)_____ &#124; &lt;strong&gt;60&lt;/strong&gt;:38 &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;60%&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; &#124; &lt;strong&gt;291&lt;/strong&gt;:144 &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;67%&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; &#124; Heals nation, fights inflation, maintains DÃ©tente
1977-1979 &#124; Carter(D)____ &#124;&lt;strong&gt; 61&lt;/strong&gt;:38 61% &#124; &lt;strong&gt;292&lt;/strong&gt;:143 67% &#124; National energy policy _ deregulate energy &amp; transportation
1979-1981 &#124; Carter(D)____ &#124;&lt;strong&gt; 58&lt;/strong&gt;:41 58% &#124; &lt;strong&gt;277&lt;/strong&gt;:158 64% &#124; USSR invades Afghanistan, Iran hostages, crippling unemployment &amp; inflation. Attacked by a wabbit and seeks nuclear counseling from daughter
1981-1983 &#124; Reagan(R)___ &#124; 46:&lt;strong&gt;53&lt;/strong&gt; 53% &#124; &lt;strong&gt;242&lt;/strong&gt;:192 &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;56%&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; &#124; Stimulates economic growth, curbs inflation, increases employment, and strengthens national defense
1983-1985 &#124; Reagan(R)___ &#124; 46:&lt;strong&gt;54&lt;/strong&gt; 54% &#124; &lt;strong&gt;269&lt;/strong&gt;:166 &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;62%&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; &#124; Tax cuts, growing deficit, Grenada invasion, still blows Mondale out of water
1985-1987 &#124; Reagan(R)___ &#124; 47:&lt;strong&gt;53&lt;/strong&gt; 53% &#124; &lt;strong&gt;253&lt;/strong&gt;:182 &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;58%&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; &#124; Overhauls tax code, declared war against international terrorism
1987-1989 &#124; Reagan(R)___ &#124; &lt;strong&gt;55&lt;/strong&gt;:45 &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;55%&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; &#124; &lt;strong&gt;258&lt;/strong&gt;:177 &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;59%&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; &#124; Plays hardball with USSR and S American subversives. Overal economic prosperity &amp; peace thru strength
1989-1991 &#124; Bush(R)_____ &#124; &lt;strong&gt;55&lt;/strong&gt;:45 &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;55%&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; &#124; &lt;strong&gt;260&lt;/strong&gt;:175 &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;60%&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; &#124; Exxon_Valdez, Panama invasion, Berlin Wall Falls, Gulf War 1
1991-1993 &#124; Bush(R)_____ &#124; &lt;strong&gt;56&lt;/strong&gt;:44 &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;56%&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; &#124; &lt;strong&gt;267&lt;/strong&gt;:167 &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;61%&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; &#124; Economy falters, &#039;Read my lips&#039;, loses popularity vote due to Perot&#039;s 15%
1993-1995 &#124; Clinton(D)___ &#124; &lt;strong&gt;56&lt;/strong&gt;:44 56% &#124; &lt;strong&gt;258&lt;/strong&gt;:176 59% &#124; Wins w/&lt;50% popularity vote, &#039;I feel your pain&#039;, co-opts GOP platform
1995-1997 &#124; Clinton(D)___ &#124; 47:&lt;strong&gt;53&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;53%&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; &#124; 204:&lt;strong&gt;230&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;53%&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; &#124; Welfare reform. Liberal spending programs blocked by GOP
1997-1999 &#124; Clinton(D)___ &#124; 45:&lt;strong&gt;55&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;55%&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; &#124; 206:&lt;strong&gt;228&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;52%&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; &#124; Monicagate, impeached by House
1999-2001 &#124; Clinton(D)___ &#124; 45:&lt;strong&gt;55&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;55%&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; &#124; 211:&lt;strong&gt;223&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;51%&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; &#124; Lame duck. Bosnia/Kosovo/Desert Fox. DotCom bust
2001-2003 &#124; Bush(R)____ &#124; 48:&lt;strong&gt;50&lt;/strong&gt; 50% &#124; 212:&lt;strong&gt;221&lt;/strong&gt; 51% &#124; 9/11, frees Afghanistan, recession &amp; turn around, rising employment
2003-2005 &#124; Bush(R)____ &#124; 48:&lt;strong&gt;51&lt;/strong&gt; 51% &#124; 204:&lt;strong&gt;229&lt;/strong&gt; 53% &#124; Economy starts recovery, Iraq invasion, UN Oil Scam discovered, Afghan elections
2005-2007 &#124; Bush(R)____ &#124; 44:&lt;strong&gt;55&lt;/strong&gt; 55% &#124; 202:&lt;strong&gt;232&lt;/strong&gt; 53% &#124; W/o US &amp; Australia military, much more Tsunami victims, UN inept. Iraq elections, Condi becomes SecState

NOTES
Given the layout of La Shawn&#039;s Blog, I hope it turns out OK.
1) &quot;##:##&quot; = # of DEM vs # of GOP, or Left:Right
2) &quot;&lt;strong&gt;##&lt;/strong&gt; = Majority Party
3) &quot;##%&quot; = Majority Party %.  Generally speaking and depending on circumstances, either a simple, 60% or 2/3 majority is required to pass legislation, override vetoes etc
4) &quot;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;##%&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; = Majority Party is NOT POTUS&#039; Party

SOURCES
www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/index2.html
www.senate.gov/pagelayout/history/one_item_and_teasers/partydiv.htm
http://clerk.house.gov/histHigh/Congressional_History/partyDiv.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Russell, I apologize and take back what I said for any of your comments prior to 01.17.05 @ 6:55pm.</p>
<p>However, going forward from that rant, my statement stands.  When considering executive and/or party accomplishments, it behooves us all to consider the balance of power at the time.  So in response, I&#8217;ve created a simple table after doing some screenscraping (thanks M$ Excel)</p>
<p>So w/o further ado:<br />
<strong>Years____ | POTUS_____ | SENATE_ | HOUSE____ | IMHO Noteworthy</strong><br />
1927-1929 | Coolidge(R)__ | <strong>46</strong>:48 <strong><em>50%</em></strong> | 194:<strong>238</strong> 55% | Effectively doing nothing<br />
1929-1931 | Hoover(R)___ | 39:<strong>56</strong> 58% | 164:<strong>270</strong> 62% | Stock Crash. Cuts taxes, expand spending<br />
1931-1933 | Hoover(R)___ | 47:<strong>48</strong> 50% | 216:<strong>218</strong> 50% | Economy begins to recover, kneecapped by Europe<br />
1933-1935 | FDR(D)_____ | <strong>59</strong>:36 61% | <strong>313</strong>:117 72% | Blame Hoover for recession. New Deal<br />
1935-1937 | FDR(D)_____ | <strong>69</strong>:25 72% | <strong>322</strong>:103 74% | Economy begins to recover. Attempts redesign of SCOTUS<br />
1937-1939 | FDR(D)_____ | <strong>76</strong>:16 79% | <strong>334</strong>:88 77%  | Good Neighbor policy<br />
1939-1941 | FDR(D)_____ | <strong>69</strong>:23 72% | <strong>262</strong>:169 60% | Prepares for war, Lend-Lease<br />
1941-1943 | FDR(D)_____ | <strong>66</strong>:28 69% | <strong>267</strong>:162 61% | WWII, brings in CEOs to produce war machines and maximize public works efforts<br />
1943-1945 | FDR(D)_____ | <strong>57</strong>:38 59% | <strong>222</strong>:209 51% | WWII. Truman saves $15B from Fraud, Waste &#038; Abuse<br />
1945-1947 | Truman(D)___ | <strong>57</strong>:38 59% | <strong>242</strong>:191 56% | V_E Day, V_J Day, UN chartered<br />
1947-1949 | Truman(D)___ | 45:<strong>51</strong> <strong><em>53%</em></strong> | 188:<strong>246</strong> <strong><em>57%</em></strong> | Expand SS, Fair Employment Practices Act (Fair Deal)<br />
1949-1951 | Truman(D)___ | <strong>54</strong>:42 56% | <strong>263</strong>:171 60% | Truman Doctrine, Marshall Plan, Berlin Airlift &#038; Korean War<br />
1951-1953 | Truman(D)___ | <strong>49</strong>:47 51% | <strong>235</strong>:199 54% | Korea partitioned<br />
1953-1955 | Ike(R)_______ | 47:<strong>48</strong> 50% | 213:<strong>221</strong> 51% | US/USSR develop H_Bomb<br />
1955-1957 | Ike(R)_______ |<strong> 48</strong>:47 <strong><em>50%</em></strong> | <strong>232</strong>:203 <strong><em>53%</em></strong> | Proposes arms verification w/USSR<br />
1957-1959 | Ike(R)_______ |<strong> 49</strong>:47 <strong><em>51%</em></strong> | <strong>234</strong>:201 <strong><em>54%</em></strong> | Desegregation of military &#038; schools accelerated &#8212; &#8216;There must be no second class citizens in this country&#8217;<br />
1959-1961 | Ike(R)_______ | <strong>65</strong>:35 <strong><em>65%</em></strong> | <strong>283</strong>:153 <strong><em>65%</em></strong> | Atoms for Peace program<br />
1961-1963 | JFK(D)______ | <strong>64</strong>:36 64% | <strong>263</strong>:174 60% | Bay of Pigs, Cuban Missles, To the Moon, tax cuts, sends advisors to &#8216;Nam<br />
1963-1965 | LBJ(D)______ | <strong>66</strong>:34 66% | <strong>259</strong>:176 60% | Civil Rights, Tax Cuts, increased spending<br />
1965-1967 | LBJ(D)______ | <strong>68</strong>:32 68% | <strong>295</strong>:140 68% | Great Society program<br />
1967-1969 | LBJ(D)______ | <strong>64</strong>:36 64% | <strong>247</strong>:187 57% | Nam, Black ghetto unrest<br />
1969-1971 | Nixon(R)____ | <strong>57</strong>:43 <strong><em>57%</em></strong> | <strong>243</strong>:192 <strong><em>56%</em></strong> | Moon landing, revenue sharing, draft ended<br />
1971-1973 | Nixon(R)____ | <strong>54</strong>:44 <strong><em>54%</em></strong> | <strong>255</strong>:180 <strong><em>59%</em></strong> | Engage Peking/Moscow, disengage Nam, Egypt/Syria vs Israel<br />
1973-1975 | Nixon/Ford(R) | <strong>56</strong>:42 <strong><em>56%</em></strong> | <strong>242</strong>:192 <strong><em>56%</em></strong> | Watergate, resigns<br />
1975-1977 | Ford(R)_____ | <strong>60</strong>:38 <strong><em>60%</em></strong> | <strong>291</strong>:144 <strong><em>67%</em></strong> | Heals nation, fights inflation, maintains DÃ©tente<br />
1977-1979 | Carter(D)____ |<strong> 61</strong>:38 61% | <strong>292</strong>:143 67% | National energy policy _ deregulate energy &#038; transportation<br />
1979-1981 | Carter(D)____ |<strong> 58</strong>:41 58% | <strong>277</strong>:158 64% | USSR invades Afghanistan, Iran hostages, crippling unemployment &#038; inflation. Attacked by a wabbit and seeks nuclear counseling from daughter<br />
1981-1983 | Reagan(R)___ | 46:<strong>53</strong> 53% | <strong>242</strong>:192 <strong><em>56%</em></strong> | Stimulates economic growth, curbs inflation, increases employment, and strengthens national defense<br />
1983-1985 | Reagan(R)___ | 46:<strong>54</strong> 54% | <strong>269</strong>:166 <strong><em>62%</em></strong> | Tax cuts, growing deficit, Grenada invasion, still blows Mondale out of water<br />
1985-1987 | Reagan(R)___ | 47:<strong>53</strong> 53% | <strong>253</strong>:182 <strong><em>58%</em></strong> | Overhauls tax code, declared war against international terrorism<br />
1987-1989 | Reagan(R)___ | <strong>55</strong>:45 <strong><em>55%</em></strong> | <strong>258</strong>:177 <strong><em>59%</em></strong> | Plays hardball with USSR and S American subversives. Overal economic prosperity &#038; peace thru strength<br />
1989-1991 | Bush(R)_____ | <strong>55</strong>:45 <strong><em>55%</em></strong> | <strong>260</strong>:175 <strong><em>60%</em></strong> | Exxon_Valdez, Panama invasion, Berlin Wall Falls, Gulf War 1<br />
1991-1993 | Bush(R)_____ | <strong>56</strong>:44 <strong><em>56%</em></strong> | <strong>267</strong>:167 <strong><em>61%</em></strong> | Economy falters, &#8216;Read my lips&#8217;, loses popularity vote due to Perot&#8217;s 15%<br />
1993-1995 | Clinton(D)___ | <strong>56</strong>:44 56% | <strong>258</strong>:176 59% | Wins w/&lt;50% popularity vote, &#8216;I feel your pain&#8217;, co-opts GOP platform<br />
1995-1997 | Clinton(D)___ | 47:<strong>53</strong> <strong><em>53%</em></strong> | 204:<strong>230</strong> <strong><em>53%</em></strong> | Welfare reform. Liberal spending programs blocked by GOP<br />
1997-1999 | Clinton(D)___ | 45:<strong>55</strong> <strong><em>55%</em></strong> | 206:<strong>228</strong> <strong><em>52%</em></strong> | Monicagate, impeached by House<br />
1999-2001 | Clinton(D)___ | 45:<strong>55</strong> <strong><em>55%</em></strong> | 211:<strong>223</strong> <strong><em>51%</em></strong> | Lame duck. Bosnia/Kosovo/Desert Fox. DotCom bust<br />
2001-2003 | Bush(R)____ | 48:<strong>50</strong> 50% | 212:<strong>221</strong> 51% | 9/11, frees Afghanistan, recession &#038; turn around, rising employment<br />
2003-2005 | Bush(R)____ | 48:<strong>51</strong> 51% | 204:<strong>229</strong> 53% | Economy starts recovery, Iraq invasion, UN Oil Scam discovered, Afghan elections<br />
2005-2007 | Bush(R)____ | 44:<strong>55</strong> 55% | 202:<strong>232</strong> 53% | W/o US &#038; Australia military, much more Tsunami victims, UN inept. Iraq elections, Condi becomes SecState</p>
<p>NOTES<br />
Given the layout of La Shawn&#8217;s Blog, I hope it turns out OK.<br />
1) &#8220;##:##&#8221; = # of DEM vs # of GOP, or Left:Right<br />
2) &#8220;<strong>##</strong> = Majority Party<br />
3) &#8220;##%&#8221; = Majority Party %.  Generally speaking and depending on circumstances, either a simple, 60% or 2/3 majority is required to pass legislation, override vetoes etc<br />
4) &#8220;<strong><em>##%</em></strong> = Majority Party is NOT POTUS&#8217; Party</p>
<p>SOURCES<br />
<a href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/index2.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/index2.html</a><br />
<a href="http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/history/one_item_and_teasers/partydiv.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/history/one_item_and_teasers/partydiv.htm</a><br />
<a href="http://clerk.house.gov/histHigh/Congressional_History/partyDiv.html" rel="nofollow">http://clerk.house.gov/histHigh/Congressional_History/partyDiv.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Russell Tupper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russell Tupper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2005 02:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>La Shawn - 

White liberals? Sorry dear if I don&#039;t wear my race on my sleeve. But I&#039;m as black as you. Ask baldilocks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>La Shawn &#8211; </p>
<p>White liberals? Sorry dear if I don&#8217;t wear my race on my sleeve. But I&#8217;m as black as you. Ask baldilocks.</p>
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		<title>By: La Shawn</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/01/17/liberal-2/comment-page-2/#comment-18823</link>
		<dc:creator>La Shawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2005 02:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And that was exactly what I was waiting for: the presumption that blacks get where they are BECAUSE OF THEIR BLACK SKIN. This is the repugnant nonsense I get from while liberals ALL THE TIME, and I&#039;m TIRED OF IT.

What about the notion of people advancing because of what they know and how well they do their job and excel at their craft? No, it&#039;s their blackness that people can&#039;t stop looking at!

All of the mumbo-jumbo double-speak about &quot;exclusionary practices&quot; truly makes me ill. And the numbers you roll off about &quot;minorities&quot; is more of the same. I&#039;m updating this post with a link to &quot;The Immorality of Race Preferences.&quot;

Latent bigotry disguised as...liberal enlightenment. I think it&#039;s time to close this thread.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And that was exactly what I was waiting for: the presumption that blacks get where they are BECAUSE OF THEIR BLACK SKIN. This is the repugnant nonsense I get from while liberals ALL THE TIME, and I&#8217;m TIRED OF IT.</p>
<p>What about the notion of people advancing because of what they know and how well they do their job and excel at their craft? No, it&#8217;s their blackness that people can&#8217;t stop looking at!</p>
<p>All of the mumbo-jumbo double-speak about &#8220;exclusionary practices&#8221; truly makes me ill. And the numbers you roll off about &#8220;minorities&#8221; is more of the same. I&#8217;m updating this post with a link to &#8220;The Immorality of Race Preferences.&#8221;</p>
<p>Latent bigotry disguised as&#8230;liberal enlightenment. I think it&#8217;s time to close this thread.</p>
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		<title>By: Russell Tupper</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/01/17/liberal-2/comment-page-2/#comment-18821</link>
		<dc:creator>Russell Tupper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2005 01:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>La Shawn - 

Several studies have documented important gains in racial and gender equality as a direct result of affirmative action. For example, according to a report from the U.S. Labor Department, affirmative action has helped 5 million minority members and 6 million White and minority women move up in the workforce. Thatâ€™s 11 million taxing-paying citizens that add a direct dollar amount to our GDP.

Additionally a study sponsored by the Office of Federal Contract Compliance Programs showed that between 1974 and 1980 federal contractors (who were required to adopt affirmative action goals) added Black and female officials and managers at twice the rate of noncontractors. This means because of Affirmative Action, there are more black and female managers â€“ which in turn means more white-men have black and female bosses, which deflates stereotypical prejudices held by a mostly white workforce. 30 years ago having a female or black boss was unthinkable to most white men. Now, for the most part, itâ€™s not that big a deal.  How could that have been accomplished without Affirmative Action?

Furthermore, job discrimination is grounded in prejudice and exclusion, whereas affirmative action is an effort to overcome prejudicial treatment through inclusion. The most effective way to cure society of exclusionary practices is to make special efforts at inclusion, which is exactly what affirmative action does. The logic of affirmative action is no different than the logic of treating a nutritional deficiency with vitamin supplements. For a healthy person, high doses of vitamin supplements may be unnecessary or even harmful, but for a person whose system is out of balance, supplements are an efficient way to restore the body&#039;s balance. 

Simply put, Affirmative Action increases minority employment in formely &quot;close&quot; careerpaths. Increasing minority employment adds to the fiscal well being of the country while breaking down walls and defeating prejudice â€“ which is â€œmorallyâ€ the right thing to do.

Source:

http://www.understandingprejudice.org/readroom/articles/affirm.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>La Shawn &#8211; </p>
<p>Several studies have documented important gains in racial and gender equality as a direct result of affirmative action. For example, according to a report from the U.S. Labor Department, affirmative action has helped 5 million minority members and 6 million White and minority women move up in the workforce. Thatâ€™s 11 million taxing-paying citizens that add a direct dollar amount to our GDP.</p>
<p>Additionally a study sponsored by the Office of Federal Contract Compliance Programs showed that between 1974 and 1980 federal contractors (who were required to adopt affirmative action goals) added Black and female officials and managers at twice the rate of noncontractors. This means because of Affirmative Action, there are more black and female managers â€“ which in turn means more white-men have black and female bosses, which deflates stereotypical prejudices held by a mostly white workforce. 30 years ago having a female or black boss was unthinkable to most white men. Now, for the most part, itâ€™s not that big a deal.  How could that have been accomplished without Affirmative Action?</p>
<p>Furthermore, job discrimination is grounded in prejudice and exclusion, whereas affirmative action is an effort to overcome prejudicial treatment through inclusion. The most effective way to cure society of exclusionary practices is to make special efforts at inclusion, which is exactly what affirmative action does. The logic of affirmative action is no different than the logic of treating a nutritional deficiency with vitamin supplements. For a healthy person, high doses of vitamin supplements may be unnecessary or even harmful, but for a person whose system is out of balance, supplements are an efficient way to restore the body&#8217;s balance. </p>
<p>Simply put, Affirmative Action increases minority employment in formely &#8220;close&#8221; careerpaths. Increasing minority employment adds to the fiscal well being of the country while breaking down walls and defeating prejudice â€“ which is â€œmorallyâ€ the right thing to do.</p>
<p>Source:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.understandingprejudice.org/readroom/articles/affirm.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.understandingprejudice.org/readroom/articles/affirm.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jade</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/01/17/liberal-2/comment-page-2/#comment-18820</link>
		<dc:creator>Jade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2005 01:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Civil Rights–no conservatives around supporting that when the fight began…
&lt;br&gt;
Feminism–ditto, but now, thanks to femisim, Ann Coulter can spout her ridiculous nonsense. Ann on the Iraq War: “When we were fighting communism, OK, they had mass murderers and gulags, but they were white men and they were sane. Now we’re up against absolutely insane savages.” Don’t let me get started on her defense of segregation. She’s your girl!
&lt;br&gt;
Job creation–job creation has ALWAYS been up with a Democrat in the office, and always awful with a Republican in the office…&lt;/i&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Civil Rights, don&#039;t know about Conservatives, but the Republican platform was all for it when the party first formed.
&lt;br&gt;
Feminism, why the HECK would ANYONE want to own up to that hack job and a half?!
&lt;br&gt;
Job creation, not sure about job creation, but at least under Reagan small businesses began to flourish.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Civil Rights–no conservatives around supporting that when the fight began…<br />
<br />
Feminism–ditto, but now, thanks to femisim, Ann Coulter can spout her ridiculous nonsense. Ann on the Iraq War: “When we were fighting communism, OK, they had mass murderers and gulags, but they were white men and they were sane. Now we’re up against absolutely insane savages.” Don’t let me get started on her defense of segregation. She’s your girl!<br />
<br />
Job creation–job creation has ALWAYS been up with a Democrat in the office, and always awful with a Republican in the office…</i></p>
<p>
Civil Rights, don&#8217;t know about Conservatives, but the Republican platform was all for it when the party first formed.<br />
<br />
Feminism, why the HECK would ANYONE want to own up to that hack job and a half?!<br />
<br />
Job creation, not sure about job creation, but at least under Reagan small businesses began to flourish.</p>
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		<title>By: Russell Tupper</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/01/17/liberal-2/comment-page-2/#comment-18819</link>
		<dc:creator>Russell Tupper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2005 01:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment by Andy

Nice ad hominem. Perhaps next time instead of just calling me either a liar (&lt;em&gt;full of canards and misrepresentations&lt;/em&gt;) or stupid (&lt;em&gt;Not that you&#8217;d deliberately misrepresnt anything of course&lt;/em&gt;) you could find the time to actually refute an argument. 

To your aside about this next generation: I too look to them for a brilliant future - since, empirically, the upcoming generation always rebels against the status-quo. 

Hopefully we&#8217;ll both be around to see how lovely the country&#8217;s shade of blue is in 2020.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment by Andy</p>
<p>Nice ad hominem. Perhaps next time instead of just calling me either a liar (<em>full of canards and misrepresentations</em>) or stupid (<em>Not that you&#8217;d deliberately misrepresnt anything of course</em>) you could find the time to actually refute an argument. </p>
<p>To your aside about this next generation: I too look to them for a brilliant future &#8211; since, empirically, the upcoming generation always rebels against the status-quo. </p>
<p>Hopefully we&#8217;ll both be around to see how lovely the country&#8217;s shade of blue is in 2020.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/01/17/liberal-2/comment-page-2/#comment-18817</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2005 01:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Russell, I wish I had time to fisk your writings above -- your luck this time around I guess.

Needless to say, full of canards and misrepresentations.  Not that you&#039;d deliberately misrepresnt anything of course, nonetheless, repeating revisionist/post-modernist talking pointsthem don&#039;t make them anything more than wishful thinking.  

I rest assured that the new generation ain&#039;t buying the malarky and as long as we stick to common sense, morals (that which comes from God above) this purple country will continue to turn redder.

As an aside, didn&#039;t the color red use to represent leftist/marxist/socialist ideology?  hmmm...  Rather than ban the red colors, I guess we must have co-opted it.  How ironic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Russell, I wish I had time to fisk your writings above &#8212; your luck this time around I guess.</p>
<p>Needless to say, full of canards and misrepresentations.  Not that you&#8217;d deliberately misrepresnt anything of course, nonetheless, repeating revisionist/post-modernist talking pointsthem don&#8217;t make them anything more than wishful thinking.  </p>
<p>I rest assured that the new generation ain&#8217;t buying the malarky and as long as we stick to common sense, morals (that which comes from God above) this purple country will continue to turn redder.</p>
<p>As an aside, didn&#8217;t the color red use to represent leftist/marxist/socialist ideology?  hmmm&#8230;  Rather than ban the red colors, I guess we must have co-opted it.  How ironic.</p>
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		<title>By: La Shawn</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/01/17/liberal-2/comment-page-2/#comment-18816</link>
		<dc:creator>La Shawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2005 00:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been &quot;listening&quot; to this thread, but now I have to speak up. What moral and fiscal &quot;added value&quot; to society do skin color preferences have? Be specific.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been &#8220;listening&#8221; to this thread, but now I have to speak up. What moral and fiscal &#8220;added value&#8221; to society do skin color preferences have? Be specific.</p>
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		<title>By: Russell Tupper</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/01/17/liberal-2/comment-page-2/#comment-18815</link>
		<dc:creator>Russell Tupper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2005 00:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Convincing people that preferential treatment should stay is your challenge (at what costs). 

comment by Baklava

Uh, sorry. Affirmative Action is the status-quo. 

You have to convince people to get rid of it. 

For every single example you cite of AA-gone wild, I can name many more examples of AA that added value to society - both morally and fiscally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Convincing people that preferential treatment should stay is your challenge (at what costs). </p>
<p>comment by Baklava</p>
<p>Uh, sorry. Affirmative Action is the status-quo. </p>
<p>You have to convince people to get rid of it. </p>
<p>For every single example you cite of AA-gone wild, I can name many more examples of AA that added value to society &#8211; both morally and fiscally.</p>
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		<title>By: Russell Tupper</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/01/17/liberal-2/comment-page-2/#comment-18813</link>
		<dc:creator>Russell Tupper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2005 00:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment by conservblack

Please explain to me how you end programs that &quot;divide us&quot; and de-regulate small businesses and at the same time strongly enforce anti-discrimination laws - without creating or enforcing regulations on small businesses that upholds anti-discrimination laws, that is.

I won&#039;t even go into &quot;low taxes with good schools.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment by conservblack</p>
<p>Please explain to me how you end programs that &#8220;divide us&#8221; and de-regulate small businesses and at the same time strongly enforce anti-discrimination laws &#8211; without creating or enforcing regulations on small businesses that upholds anti-discrimination laws, that is.</p>
<p>I won&#8217;t even go into &#8220;low taxes with good schools.&#8221;</p>
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		<dc:creator>SCSIwuzzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2005 23:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, there is at least one liberal that doesn&#039;t &quot;get&quot; it:  Hillary Rodham Clinton, on Jan. 20, 2003
&quot;.. there are those who don&#039;t understand Dr. King&#039;s dream and legacy. Yes, we want to be judged by the content of our character and not the color of our skin. But what makes up character? If we don&#039;t take race as part of our character, then we are kidding ourselves.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, there is at least one liberal that doesn&#8217;t &#8220;get&#8221; it:  Hillary Rodham Clinton, on Jan. 20, 2003<br />
&#8220;.. there are those who don&#8217;t understand Dr. King&#8217;s dream and legacy. Yes, we want to be judged by the content of our character and not the color of our skin. But what makes up character? If we don&#8217;t take race as part of our character, then we are kidding ourselves.&#8221;</p>
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