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		<title>By: Vee</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/02/18/naacp-3/comment-page-1/#comment-40827</link>
		<dc:creator>Vee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2005 01:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you people actually read Bond&#039;s speech?  I encourage you to read the speech, then read it again, then once more until you realize that of the 14 statements made about Bush, seven were in reference to statistical data from the 2000 elections and the other half were truthful commentaries about Bush&#039;s obviously racist and subliminally antagonistic affronts to the organization and to Black people as a whole. Besides the political campaigning ban is very subjective.  The IRS is known for turning a blind eye to the activities of other organizations, categorizing the activities as di minimus.  And, if Bond&#039;s statements are so problematic then fine Bond.  The law is not at all clear on whether the statements of a member or leader should be deemed that of the org. 
The law was thrown together as a response to LBJ&#039;s problems and now everyone else who has ever had a valid opinion, must deal with the IRS&#039; subjectivity. 

 When you are finished reading the speach, do a search on how many anti-Kerry remarks the Catholic Church made.  Is the IRS probing the Catholic Church.  And while you are at that, look into the new Pope&#039;s relationship with Bush, or rather his campaigning for Bush.  The IRS is being retaliatory and Bush is behind it.  Nixon did it when he was in office and Bush is doing it now. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you people actually read Bond&#8217;s speech?  I encourage you to read the speech, then read it again, then once more until you realize that of the 14 statements made about Bush, seven were in reference to statistical data from the 2000 elections and the other half were truthful commentaries about Bush&#8217;s obviously racist and subliminally antagonistic affronts to the organization and to Black people as a whole. Besides the political campaigning ban is very subjective.  The IRS is known for turning a blind eye to the activities of other organizations, categorizing the activities as di minimus.  And, if Bond&#8217;s statements are so problematic then fine Bond.  The law is not at all clear on whether the statements of a member or leader should be deemed that of the org.<br />
The law was thrown together as a response to LBJ&#8217;s problems and now everyone else who has ever had a valid opinion, must deal with the IRS&#8217; subjectivity. </p>
<p> When you are finished reading the speach, do a search on how many anti-Kerry remarks the Catholic Church made.  Is the IRS probing the Catholic Church.  And while you are at that, look into the new Pope&#8217;s relationship with Bush, or rather his campaigning for Bush.  The IRS is being retaliatory and Bush is behind it.  Nixon did it when he was in office and Bush is doing it now.</p>
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		<title>By: Stones Cry Out</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/02/18/naacp-3/comment-page-1/#comment-24179</link>
		<dc:creator>Stones Cry Out</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2005 12:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Free Speech for Churches and Charities:  Pass the Houses of Worship Freedom of Speech Restoration Act&lt;/strong&gt;
Churches and non-profit charities lost their right to free speech 51 years ago when Lyndon Johnson, then a Senator, introduced and forced through a terrible piece of legislation to silence his critics. As a result, churches and charities have forfeited...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Free Speech for Churches and Charities:  Pass the Houses of Worship Freedom of Speech Restoration Act</strong><br />
Churches and non-profit charities lost their right to free speech 51 years ago when Lyndon Johnson, then a Senator, introduced and forced through a terrible piece of legislation to silence his critics. As a result, churches and charities have forfeited&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/02/18/naacp-3/comment-page-1/#comment-23089</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Feb 2005 20:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>2 degrees of separation between the NAACP, the Urban League, the Center for Democratic Renewal, and the United Church of Christ (yeah, the one w/ the gay commercial last year) and Ward Churchill.
www.newcriterion.com/weblog/2005/02/ward-churchill-six-degrees-of.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2 degrees of separation between the NAACP, the Urban League, the Center for Democratic Renewal, and the United Church of Christ (yeah, the one w/ the gay commercial last year) and Ward Churchill.<br />
<a href="http://www.newcriterion.com/weblog/2005/02/ward-churchill-six-degrees-of.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.newcriterion.com/weblog/2005/02/ward-churchill-six-degrees-of.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/02/18/naacp-3/comment-page-1/#comment-23078</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Feb 2005 17:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And lose they will, Baklava.  :D

They keep talking about how they need to get their message out.  What they don&#039;t realize is that it has been dilvered loud and clear.  Afterall, they have the MSM and 527s to peddle their tripe, and ever increasing Americans said no thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And lose they will, Baklava.  <img src='http://lashawnbarber.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>They keep talking about how they need to get their message out.  What they don&#8217;t realize is that it has been dilvered loud and clear.  Afterall, they have the MSM and 527s to peddle their tripe, and ever increasing Americans said no thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Baklava</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/02/18/naacp-3/comment-page-1/#comment-23076</link>
		<dc:creator>Baklava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Feb 2005 17:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again.... It&#039;s not just about Bond. Much of the organization is working with creating verbal and written communications including commercials against and for specific candidates. 

They have been able to get away with it for far too long and they seem to think they are above the law. 

Sure Bond should step down. But the NAACP should have it&#039;s tax exempt status removed until for a whole year they can prove they can stop with the specific candidate communications and literature and commercials. I know they can&#039;t do it because it&#039;s in their blood. 

Just like it&#039;s in a liberals blood to instead of debate the issues call conservatives names and accuse them of things. Liberals feel like they are above having to debate a conservative and they will keep losing election cycles as long as both of these disparities (how liberals and the NAACP think they don&#039;t have to treat us fairly) exist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again&#8230;. It&#8217;s not just about Bond. Much of the organization is working with creating verbal and written communications including commercials against and for specific candidates. </p>
<p>They have been able to get away with it for far too long and they seem to think they are above the law. </p>
<p>Sure Bond should step down. But the NAACP should have it&#8217;s tax exempt status removed until for a whole year they can prove they can stop with the specific candidate communications and literature and commercials. I know they can&#8217;t do it because it&#8217;s in their blood. </p>
<p>Just like it&#8217;s in a liberals blood to instead of debate the issues call conservatives names and accuse them of things. Liberals feel like they are above having to debate a conservative and they will keep losing election cycles as long as both of these disparities (how liberals and the NAACP think they don&#8217;t have to treat us fairly) exist.</p>
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		<title>By: Monster Kabasue</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/02/18/naacp-3/comment-page-1/#comment-23042</link>
		<dc:creator>Monster Kabasue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Feb 2005 05:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work at a non-profit, I was given a list of things that I can not do (politically speaking) both on and off the job.  There are some very good reasons why non-profits must stay non-political. (example) If I discuss politics with a client, and then turn him down him for any reason.  It could be then said I turned him down for services because I wasn&#039;t kosher with his political standings (even if it was not true).  Bond should steep down and leave the NAACP before his causes NAACP any more problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work at a non-profit, I was given a list of things that I can not do (politically speaking) both on and off the job.  There are some very good reasons why non-profits must stay non-political. (example) If I discuss politics with a client, and then turn him down him for any reason.  It could be then said I turned him down for services because I wasn&#8217;t kosher with his political standings (even if it was not true).  Bond should steep down and leave the NAACP before his causes NAACP any more problems.</p>
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		<title>By: Baklava</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/02/18/naacp-3/comment-page-1/#comment-22949</link>
		<dc:creator>Baklava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2005 21:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You mentioned fair. Here is fair. 

What is fair is that there may be some other &quot;faith-based&quot; organizations who do partisan politics with specific candidates in their verbal or even written literature. 

That&#039;s against the law and the IRS should inform them of such and it shouldn&#039;t happen again or it&#039;s tax exempt status should be taken away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mentioned fair. Here is fair. </p>
<p>What is fair is that there may be some other &#8220;faith-based&#8221; organizations who do partisan politics with specific candidates in their verbal or even written literature. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s against the law and the IRS should inform them of such and it shouldn&#8217;t happen again or it&#8217;s tax exempt status should be taken away.</p>
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		<title>By: Baklava</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/02/18/naacp-3/comment-page-1/#comment-22793</link>
		<dc:creator>Baklava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2005 20:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It isn&#039;t about Julian Bond&#039;s &quot;harsh&quot; partisan speeches. It is daily activity by the entire organization, commercials developed and aired against specific candidates, and literature created against specific candidates. This is against the law Mike. 

I&#039;ve been to churches where issues are discussed but NEVER have I been to churches where specific candidates were on literature or in discussions or anything else.

YOU HAD &quot;RECEIVE&quot; in caps. That fact shows that you had a problem with &quot;faith based&quot; organizations recieving funds for some reason based on your word &quot;fear&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It isn&#8217;t about Julian Bond&#8217;s &#8220;harsh&#8221; partisan speeches. It is daily activity by the entire organization, commercials developed and aired against specific candidates, and literature created against specific candidates. This is against the law Mike. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been to churches where issues are discussed but NEVER have I been to churches where specific candidates were on literature or in discussions or anything else.</p>
<p>YOU HAD &#8220;RECEIVE&#8221; in caps. That fact shows that you had a problem with &#8220;faith based&#8221; organizations recieving funds for some reason based on your word &#8220;fear&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike M.</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/02/18/naacp-3/comment-page-1/#comment-22789</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2005 20:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Baklava,

You&#039;ve missed my point. La Shawn&#039;s post was about the NAACP being tax-exempt. However, that status has come under scrutiny because of some harsh partisan speeches given by its leader, Julian Bond. I think it would be silly to retaliate for some dumb political speech by abandoning a group&#039;s tax-exempt status, but the point I was making was that I believe if one group is to go down then a sufficient investigation must be done for other organizations who receive tax-exemptions but drive party-line politics into its audience. Included in these other groups, yes, are religious organizations that spout political doctrine like it&#039;s gospel.

Baklava, I&#039;m simply being fair. Can you not see that and at least give me some credit where it&#039;s due?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baklava,</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve missed my point. La Shawn&#8217;s post was about the NAACP being tax-exempt. However, that status has come under scrutiny because of some harsh partisan speeches given by its leader, Julian Bond. I think it would be silly to retaliate for some dumb political speech by abandoning a group&#8217;s tax-exempt status, but the point I was making was that I believe if one group is to go down then a sufficient investigation must be done for other organizations who receive tax-exemptions but drive party-line politics into its audience. Included in these other groups, yes, are religious organizations that spout political doctrine like it&#8217;s gospel.</p>
<p>Baklava, I&#8217;m simply being fair. Can you not see that and at least give me some credit where it&#8217;s due?</p>
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		<title>By: Baklava</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/02/18/naacp-3/comment-page-1/#comment-22788</link>
		<dc:creator>Baklava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2005 20:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.... for an organization who is tax exempt....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;. for an organization who is tax exempt&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Baklava</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/02/18/naacp-3/comment-page-1/#comment-22787</link>
		<dc:creator>Baklava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2005 20:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It isn&#039;t truthful to analogize organizations receiving funds to perform a service and an organization who is performing partisan politics on a daily basis.... Might I add that is against the law again?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It isn&#8217;t truthful to analogize organizations receiving funds to perform a service and an organization who is performing partisan politics on a daily basis&#8230;. Might I add that is against the law again?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike M.</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/02/18/naacp-3/comment-page-1/#comment-22786</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2005 20:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pajamazon,

The slam you made was by saying the NAACP was a &quot;racist organization.&quot; You didn&#039;t qualify that statement by saying &quot;when&quot; the NAACP was or is a racist organization.

What I am saying is that the NAACP was a needed body to ADVANCE the plight of blacks at the turn of the 20th century. I would perhaps AGREE WITH YOU in saying that I feel the organization is somewhat outdated today as its core principals seemed to have been left by the wayside for hardcore partisan politicking.

But, at one time, the NAACP served a worthy cause to bring justice to the millions of blacks still suffering under &quot;Separate but equal&quot; and Jim Crow laws.

How else do you believe blacks would have eventually been able to vote or go to schools wit white children? They had to congregate and formulate their own platform of advancement. It wasn&#039;t racism then and I don&#039;t believe it&#039;s racism now. Just terribly outdated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pajamazon,</p>
<p>The slam you made was by saying the NAACP was a &#8220;racist organization.&#8221; You didn&#8217;t qualify that statement by saying &#8220;when&#8221; the NAACP was or is a racist organization.</p>
<p>What I am saying is that the NAACP was a needed body to ADVANCE the plight of blacks at the turn of the 20th century. I would perhaps AGREE WITH YOU in saying that I feel the organization is somewhat outdated today as its core principals seemed to have been left by the wayside for hardcore partisan politicking.</p>
<p>But, at one time, the NAACP served a worthy cause to bring justice to the millions of blacks still suffering under &#8220;Separate but equal&#8221; and Jim Crow laws.</p>
<p>How else do you believe blacks would have eventually been able to vote or go to schools wit white children? They had to congregate and formulate their own platform of advancement. It wasn&#8217;t racism then and I don&#8217;t believe it&#8217;s racism now. Just terribly outdated.</p>
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		<title>By: Baklava</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/02/18/naacp-3/comment-page-1/#comment-22785</link>
		<dc:creator>Baklava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2005 20:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew hits a whole &#039;nother point.

I am making the point that I am taking issue with what you wrote in this paragraph:

&lt;em&gt;&quot;This is exactly why I fear Bushâ€™s â€œfaith-basedâ€ initiatives are wrong because many of these church organizations will take VERY partisan stands on issues and remain not only tax-exempt, but actually RECEIVE additional funds from the government.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Oh no.... organizations who are religious actually receiving funds to perform services for the poor. We can&#039;t have that because Mike M. &quot;FEARS&quot; this.

You display an attitude that doesn&#039;t deserve a respectful reply. Your attitude about &quot;religious organizations&quot; is one that I find extremely insulting coming from liberals. Liberals who find &quot;FEAR&quot; in something inane to find &quot;FEAR&quot; in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew hits a whole &#8216;nother point.</p>
<p>I am making the point that I am taking issue with what you wrote in this paragraph:</p>
<p><em>&#8220;This is exactly why I fear Bushâ€™s â€œfaith-basedâ€ initiatives are wrong because many of these church organizations will take VERY partisan stands on issues and remain not only tax-exempt, but actually RECEIVE additional funds from the government.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Oh no&#8230;. organizations who are religious actually receiving funds to perform services for the poor. We can&#8217;t have that because Mike M. &#8220;FEARS&#8221; this.</p>
<p>You display an attitude that doesn&#8217;t deserve a respectful reply. Your attitude about &#8220;religious organizations&#8221; is one that I find extremely insulting coming from liberals. Liberals who find &#8220;FEAR&#8221; in something inane to find &#8220;FEAR&#8221; in.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike M.</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/02/18/naacp-3/comment-page-1/#comment-22784</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2005 20:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Baklava,

Sometimes it isn&#039;t a matter of truth. I could tell some &quot;truth&quot; and you would still accuse said &quot;truth&quot; of being liberal BS.

I&#039;m gonna stop now. I don&#039;t want to use La Shawn&#039;s blog as a place to deal out animosity.

All I will say is that can you at least put forth a bit of an effort in trying to be civil? I&#039;m one of a few liberals on here...shouldn&#039;t I be the one to be all uppity?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baklava,</p>
<p>Sometimes it isn&#8217;t a matter of truth. I could tell some &#8220;truth&#8221; and you would still accuse said &#8220;truth&#8221; of being liberal BS.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m gonna stop now. I don&#8217;t want to use La Shawn&#8217;s blog as a place to deal out animosity.</p>
<p>All I will say is that can you at least put forth a bit of an effort in trying to be civil? I&#8217;m one of a few liberals on here&#8230;shouldn&#8217;t I be the one to be all uppity?</p>
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		<title>By: pajamazon</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/02/18/naacp-3/comment-page-1/#comment-22783</link>
		<dc:creator>pajamazon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2005 20:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike M.
  Now you want to be methodical!   What happened to the name-calling?  How is calling an organization dedicated to advancing folks based simply on their race racist?  Why is it constantly OK to talk about whites, &quot;as a whole&quot;, but not blacks &quot;as a whole&quot;? Or latinos &quot;as a whole&quot;  or arabs &quot;as a whole&quot;? 
    To be as simple as I can Mike, your logical proccess is flawed.  To support one racial group makes one a civil-rights activist.  To support another skips the activist phase and proceeds directly to nazi!   I guess you learned logical thinking at that &quot;college&quot; you so proudly mentioned.  
  Go back to my original comment and find the &quot;slam&quot; you claim I made.  If you see hostility, Check your ability to reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike M.<br />
  Now you want to be methodical!   What happened to the name-calling?  How is calling an organization dedicated to advancing folks based simply on their race racist?  Why is it constantly OK to talk about whites, &#8220;as a whole&#8221;, but not blacks &#8220;as a whole&#8221;? Or latinos &#8220;as a whole&#8221;  or arabs &#8220;as a whole&#8221;?<br />
    To be as simple as I can Mike, your logical proccess is flawed.  To support one racial group makes one a civil-rights activist.  To support another skips the activist phase and proceeds directly to nazi!   I guess you learned logical thinking at that &#8220;college&#8221; you so proudly mentioned.<br />
  Go back to my original comment and find the &#8220;slam&#8221; you claim I made.  If you see hostility, Check your ability to reason.</p>
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