I agree it looks bad when black disagree, but a spade is a spade. We need to stop and modify Jessie Jackson’s behavior. His behavior and belief system is unacceptable. I am sick and tired of hearing the illiteration and tired poetry. People get excited, but he has NOT put together ONE action plan. I would like to see ONE action plan that he has completed that has WORKED!If he was a CEO, he would have been fired for lack of production.

I saw the show that was on C-SPAN on Satuday that Featured Rev. Peterson. What I do like about him is that he is trying to put his words into actions by making his BOND orginization focus on helping the young black youth that live in bad situations in the L.A. area. As a 29 year old black man I think that alot of the black Leaders like Rev. Jackson and Rev. Sharpton forget to do is actually focus on developing the younger generations and when they get together in these forums they always exclude the so called “Hip Hop Generation” and the black genration X (who are now the young black adults in the workforce.What hit me most is the Rev. Peterson and his bond mission statement: “Rebuilding the Family by Rebuilding the Man”. This hit my heart because I have always felt this way in my heart, the value of God and self respect was instilled into me by my parents ands I am father now. We need to get the family value instilled into the younger black youth because the young black community is embracing the “Thug” mentality as a cool way to be and this really SICKENS me! 40years ago if a black man did not have on a good pair of well dressed slacks and a good hard working job a black woman would not even give him the time of day but now these young black girls will not talk to a brotha if they do not dress like thug!!! I would like to see Rev. Peterson take his BOND organization nationwide all across the U.S., espically to places like Birmingham, Alabama (where I live ) and Atlanta, Georgia where there is a big population of blacks.
Sorry for the long comment. You and Rev. Peterson have similar ideas to what I think we need to do in the black community.

Ihave heard about Jesse 2nd hand through my wife,
and I want to say ALL people should take his word as words that the Lord has given him. He has walked the road and knows that the hand of the Lord is upon him.

I can’t accept your number, even based on your definition, just because i think it’s a guess.

Look at it this way, if preachers were preaching and calling sin sin, those living the Christian-only-on-Sunday life would find it a little too hot to be sitting in the pew Sunday after Sunday and would rather seek out a more “tolerant” church.

Not to mention that the Bible advises excommunicating members that refuse to toe the Biblical line. So your point about the flock sinning is partially correct in that they will sin, but when found out, they will be disciplined and restored. If they persist in sinning, they would be kicked out.

Do you see then that if 70% of the churches were of the “fire & brimstone” sort and with the sort of current percentages of Americans calling themselves Christians, our demographics would be totally different? Even if only 50% were on fire, the difference would be profound.

No one can ever quantify faith among believers, but intuitively, I’d say “true” urban preachers probably make up at best 10-15% of the churches in black communities. This is the trickle down effect that we see now where 1Peter 5:7 has been subverted to mean “Casting all your care upon your preacher/politician/government for they careth for you”.

I know the difference. My point was, Andy states that if a preacher were preaching from the Bible as it should be preached from the Bible, his flock would not sin or be less likely to sin. I’m saying it’s illogical because those who are saved, still are capable of sinning, even if forgiven of their sins.

Andy, I understand your last point but say what of it? I brought up Fred Price because he said esstentially what you are saying. After seeing division in the Body of Christ because of race, he decided to spend time, I think 1 year, addressing that issue. He didn’t care that SOME, not all white preachers essentially called him a “sellout” of sorts.

I planned to end my previous comment with the something that could be construed as snarky, but held back, just in case you saw the logic of my statement. You didn’t, so here goes:

If you don’t know God, then you don’t know jack about the power to give freedom, hope and peace beyond understanding. This gift from God transcends race, poverty and whatever -ism you care to toss out there.

If you knew God, you’d also know that Satan works unceasingly to undermine the Gospel and prop up all flavors of false teachers to seduce the masses, each according to the lies they want to hear. In fact, if you know God, then you might be an Uncle Tom, and PROUD of it.

BIG difference between “saved” sinners and unbelieving sinners.

But I guess that wasn’t your point…

No. I also can’t substantiate that > 50% of the preachers are preaching the truth.

ALL preachers who promote race-pimping don’t know the meaning of salvation, if they don’t understand God, how are they even going to be a positive influence in leading their flock to God?

You do realize this cuts ALL ways, correct? If not, see Rev. Fred Price for details.

The simple fact that morality in the black community is in the state that it is would seem to indicate that most preachers (I dare say 70%) ain’t preaching God’s liberal truth, rather their socialist view of what God ought to be saying.

That’s an illogical statement.

Just because a preacher may preach the God’s Truth, it doesn’t mean all who hear it are going to live God’s Word.

Even those who are Born Again, still sin.

Did you answer my multi-choice question? Can you substantiate that <50% of the preachers are preaching the truth? Until someone can quantify it, it’s all subjective. You say most of the preachers you know are square. However, I say most of the preachers out there ain’t doing what God says, choosing to modify & consequently dilute His message.

Put it this way, ALL preachers who are active in promoting NAACP’s pogrom are heretics. ALL preachers who promote race-pimping don’t know the meaning of salvation, if they don’t understand God, how are they even going to be a positive influence in leading their flock to God?

We’re a nation of churches, there’s practically a church on every block, yet it is obvious that the Gospel ain’t sinking in with most congregations. If it were true, Klanned Parenthood clinincs wouldn’t proliferate in the urban communities. Gangstas wouldn’t be running the streets and parents would be spending more on Hooked on Phonics instead of shoes.

Coz wouldn’t even be having conversations. I mean for a liberal to come out and take the community to task because so-called Christians have failed is saying a lot!!!