Comments on: Mike S. Adams http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/02/22/adams/ Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:49:09 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: mikem http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/02/22/adams/comment-page-1/#comment-23676 mikem Tue, 22 Feb 2005 23:06:08 +0000 http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/02/22/adams/#comment-23676 A Federal judge did rule a few months back that the student' civil rights had been violated, but the Civil Rights Commission said they would take no action against UNC since they had already done so themselves (by apologizing and requiring monitoring). Of course, my opinion is that nothing has changed if the abuser feels entitled, by "University rules", to do so again to protect other students from "hate-speech". A Federal judge did rule a few months back that the student’ civil rights had been violated, but the Civil Rights Commission said they would take no action against UNC since they had already done so themselves (by apologizing and requiring monitoring). Of course, my opinion is that nothing has changed if the abuser feels entitled, by “University rules”, to do so again to protect other students from “hate-speech”.

]]> By: La Shawn http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/02/22/adams/comment-page-1/#comment-23672 La Shawn Tue, 22 Feb 2005 22:30:53 +0000 http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/02/22/adams/#comment-23672 Well then it's up to a lot of big mouths like me to keep calling liberal pythons like Crystall OUT. Perhaps if the Department of Education gets involved again, they'll fine the school. Or the next time. Or the next time. The victory was symbolic, but it's only the beginning. Conservative and Christians are FED UP with this kind of treatment! Well then it’s up to a lot of big mouths like me to keep calling liberal pythons like Crystall OUT. Perhaps if the Department of Education gets involved again, they’ll fine the school. Or the next time. Or the next time. The victory was symbolic, but it’s only the beginning. Conservative and Christians are FED UP with this kind of treatment!

]]> By: mikem http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/02/22/adams/comment-page-1/#comment-23665 mikem Tue, 22 Feb 2005 21:48:38 +0000 http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/02/22/adams/#comment-23665 Mike Adams certainly deserves a lot of praise for his roll, but the final result was not that great. Crystall retracted her 'coerced' apology and received a great deal of praise from the anti-Christian majority faculty. And as you said, she is still there. Also, she said she will not act differently in the future. I engaged in a long discussion with UNC students at Discriminations.us and they were uniformly agreed that Crystall had a right to abuse the student, even publicly, because he had engaged in 'hatespeech' by taking Crystall seriously when she asked why heterosexual males feel uncomfortable around homosexual males. The final result is that students are still terrified of the punishment that a Crystall can inflict if they state unpopular opinions in class, and free speech is still meant only for the select. Mike Adams certainly deserves a lot of praise for his roll, but the final result was not that great. Crystall retracted her ‘coerced’ apology and received a great deal of praise from the anti-Christian majority faculty. And as you said, she is still there. Also, she said she will not act differently in the future.
I engaged in a long discussion with UNC students at Discriminations.us and they were uniformly agreed that Crystall had a right to abuse the student, even publicly, because he had engaged in ‘hatespeech’ by taking Crystall seriously when she asked why heterosexual males feel uncomfortable around homosexual males.
The final result is that students are still terrified of the punishment that a Crystall can inflict if they state unpopular opinions in class, and free speech is still meant only for the select.

]]> By: La Shawn http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/02/22/adams/comment-page-1/#comment-23543 La Shawn Tue, 22 Feb 2005 14:03:37 +0000 http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/02/22/adams/#comment-23543 Athena - I thought of you when I wrote this. I remember you telling about your role. Sorry I left you out! :) Athena – I thought of you when I wrote this. I remember you telling about your role. Sorry I left you out! :)

]]> By: Athena http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/02/22/adams/comment-page-1/#comment-23535 Athena Tue, 22 Feb 2005 13:36:04 +0000 http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/02/22/adams/#comment-23535 Mike Adams is a really nice guy, a good friend of mine who attends UNCW and is chair of NC College Republicans, talks about him to me all the time. It's really great to have a professor at your own school that you can look up to and you know they're not out in far-left field. (Cori Dauber and <a href="http://rantingprofs.com">rantingprofs</a> is an example at my school). As far as the Elyse Crystall controversy, I know he had quite a bit to do with it, but I was the initial person who read the email and knew that it needed to be public!!! (Hah, sorry I love taking credit for that). The Pope Center really helped release it to the press and Mike Adams kept hounding on it and wouldn't let it die...so yes, much thanks to him. I'm sad to report that Elyse is still here at UNC, but I doubt any profs here will send out any emails like that for a while. But, there is a noticeable difference in classes since the incident. For example, in some of my classes where we'll be discussing ethics, professors lay down discussion rules or we talk about how we should preface our comments to make sure we're not "insulting" someone else, yadda yadda yadda =) Mike Adams is a really nice guy, a good friend of mine who attends UNCW and is chair of NC College Republicans, talks about him to me all the time. It’s really great to have a professor at your own school that you can look up to and you know they’re not out in far-left field. (Cori Dauber and rantingprofs is an example at my school).

As far as the Elyse Crystall controversy, I know he had quite a bit to do with it, but I was the initial person who read the email and knew that it needed to be public!!! (Hah, sorry I love taking credit for that). The Pope Center really helped release it to the press and Mike Adams kept hounding on it and wouldn’t let it die…so yes, much thanks to him. I’m sad to report that Elyse is still here at UNC, but I doubt any profs here will send out any emails like that for a while.

But, there is a noticeable difference in classes since the incident. For example, in some of my classes where we’ll be discussing ethics, professors lay down discussion rules or we talk about how we should preface our comments to make sure we’re not “insulting” someone else, yadda yadda yadda =)

]]> By: Rod Stanton http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/02/22/adams/comment-page-1/#comment-23532 Rod Stanton Tue, 22 Feb 2005 12:44:36 +0000 http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/02/22/adams/#comment-23532 Word of your good words preceed you. As well they should. God bless you. Word of your good words preceed you. As well they should. God bless you.

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