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		<title>By: firebird</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/03/22/another/comment-page-1/#comment-30954</link>
		<dc:creator>firebird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2005 19:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just wait kennedy,gore,clinton Rosie O,Donell and all the gun control freaks will be saying this would have never happened if clintons gun ban was atill in force and bush and the NRA is to blame instead of what realy happened</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wait kennedy,gore,clinton Rosie O,Donell and all the gun control freaks will be saying this would have never happened if clintons gun ban was atill in force and bush and the NRA is to blame instead of what realy happened</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Roberts</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/03/22/another/comment-page-1/#comment-30092</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t mind flip comments.  They often add to the humor of commenting here.  Real discussion means that everyone gets to say what they want.  I&#039;ve taken enough abuse from parents while coaching basketball to let much else bother me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t mind flip comments.  They often add to the humor of commenting here.  Real discussion means that everyone gets to say what they want.  I&#8217;ve taken enough abuse from parents while coaching basketball to let much else bother me.</p>
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		<title>By: stan</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/03/22/another/comment-page-1/#comment-29807</link>
		<dc:creator>stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Mar 2005 01:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,
My apologies if I was too flip...I regret the suicides of your students and I can only begin to know the pain that you also might have gone through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,<br />
My apologies if I was too flip&#8230;I regret the suicides of your students and I can only begin to know the pain that you also might have gone through.</p>
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		<title>By: stan</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/03/22/another/comment-page-1/#comment-29804</link>
		<dc:creator>stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Mar 2005 01:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure you&#039;re on their hit list...that&#039;s why I don&#039;t post my full name...no, wait....I&#039;m safe...I&#039;m from 100% German stock and my wife&#039; s from German and Norwegian. Oh, the joys of being Northern European white!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;re on their hit list&#8230;that&#8217;s why I don&#8217;t post my full name&#8230;no, wait&#8230;.I&#8217;m safe&#8230;I&#8217;m from 100% German stock and my wife&#8217; s from German and Norwegian. Oh, the joys of being Northern European white!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Roberts</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/03/22/another/comment-page-1/#comment-29798</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Mar 2005 00:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stan-
To quote our VP, &quot;big time&quot; (re: failure).  I&#039;ve had 2 of my students commit suicide since I&#039;ve started teaching and wondered sometimes if I&#039;d failed too.  I just have distaste for those who say that he has no sense of right and wrong because of the website.  It reeks of moral relativism.

I&#039;d like to see them Nazis drawn and quartered too, but my distrust of our government when it comes to free speech keeps me from doing it.  I&#039;m sure those Nazis want to do the same to me since I married a Latina!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stan-<br />
To quote our VP, &#8220;big time&#8221; (re: failure).  I&#8217;ve had 2 of my students commit suicide since I&#8217;ve started teaching and wondered sometimes if I&#8217;d failed too.  I just have distaste for those who say that he has no sense of right and wrong because of the website.  It reeks of moral relativism.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to see them Nazis drawn and quartered too, but my distrust of our government when it comes to free speech keeps me from doing it.  I&#8217;m sure those Nazis want to do the same to me since I married a Latina!!!</p>
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		<title>By: stan</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/03/22/another/comment-page-1/#comment-29788</link>
		<dc:creator>stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Mar 2005 00:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,

I assumed that you had taught kids like this and no, I&#039;m not absolving him but he had a lot on his plate according to our newspaper today. I&#039;m just calling for compassion and understanding. The Red Lake tribe and his parents failed him in a big way.

I will never defend the Nazis&#039; rights to free speech. I would like to see all of them drawn and quartered in the public square.

Thanks for the discussions, Chris. I enjoy them and learn from them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,</p>
<p>I assumed that you had taught kids like this and no, I&#8217;m not absolving him but he had a lot on his plate according to our newspaper today. I&#8217;m just calling for compassion and understanding. The Red Lake tribe and his parents failed him in a big way.</p>
<p>I will never defend the Nazis&#8217; rights to free speech. I would like to see all of them drawn and quartered in the public square.</p>
<p>Thanks for the discussions, Chris. I enjoy them and learn from them.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Roberts</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/03/22/another/comment-page-1/#comment-29766</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2005 23:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve taught and still do, many young men who grow up without fathers.  My whole premise is that while much about his circumstances causes concern, are we daring to absolve him from knowing right from wrong?

I have no respect, and much disdain for the Nazi groups and what they represent.  However, because I value my ability to speak freely so much, I do not want any precedent set that would eventually allow a government authority to curtail my rights.  They&#039;ve already started it on college campuses, where you can speak freely, as long as it doesn&#039;t offend anyone(?).  I do not trust government enough to believe that they would only stop in one single circumstance.  I appreciate your point of view.  I happen to think that everyone&#039;s right to free speech is equally as important.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve taught and still do, many young men who grow up without fathers.  My whole premise is that while much about his circumstances causes concern, are we daring to absolve him from knowing right from wrong?</p>
<p>I have no respect, and much disdain for the Nazi groups and what they represent.  However, because I value my ability to speak freely so much, I do not want any precedent set that would eventually allow a government authority to curtail my rights.  They&#8217;ve already started it on college campuses, where you can speak freely, as long as it doesn&#8217;t offend anyone(?).  I do not trust government enough to believe that they would only stop in one single circumstance.  I appreciate your point of view.  I happen to think that everyone&#8217;s right to free speech is equally as important.</p>
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		<title>By: stan</title>
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		<dc:creator>stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2005 00:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,
I have to disagree and strongly. This kid was an orphan...haven&#039;t you taught boys without dads and seen the difference it can make?  He was concerned about race mixing on the reservation and the effect that &quot;black&quot; music was having on Indian kids. I see the same problem with that music and the effects its having on the Cambodian children of refugees. The government of Cambodia absolutely forbids the import or playing of American music for this very reason and I&#039;m so happy it does.  Go easy on this one...you&#039;re displaying an unsympathetic heart and a lack of understanding as to the effect the cultural environment can have on a lost and lonely boy.
And I still can&#039;t believe some think that Nazis should have free speech. There are far more who will be sympathetic to their views than those who will learn how bad it is. Do you think that this worked in Germany? For all the intellectuals who thought Hitler was a buffoon, there were millions who had primal instincts that he touched. Your premise is wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,<br />
I have to disagree and strongly. This kid was an orphan&#8230;haven&#8217;t you taught boys without dads and seen the difference it can make?  He was concerned about race mixing on the reservation and the effect that &#8220;black&#8221; music was having on Indian kids. I see the same problem with that music and the effects its having on the Cambodian children of refugees. The government of Cambodia absolutely forbids the import or playing of American music for this very reason and I&#8217;m so happy it does.  Go easy on this one&#8230;you&#8217;re displaying an unsympathetic heart and a lack of understanding as to the effect the cultural environment can have on a lost and lonely boy.<br />
And I still can&#8217;t believe some think that Nazis should have free speech. There are far more who will be sympathetic to their views than those who will learn how bad it is. Do you think that this worked in Germany? For all the intellectuals who thought Hitler was a buffoon, there were millions who had primal instincts that he touched. Your premise is wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Roberts</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/03/22/another/comment-page-1/#comment-29527</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is blame to be placed for this kid going wrong, but it is not the website.  It may have added to the hate he already felt, but that machination already existed.  The kid knew the difference between right from wrong.  He continually chose to ignore doing the right thing.  The Nazi website was simply a means for this kid to justify the already existing evil and contempt for doing what is right that he held. 

The Nazi ideology is rampantly evil, however its right to exist and for people to speak it must not be infringed.  It would set a precedent to be taken advantage of so that more of our rights can be eroded.  The only way for the Nazi ideology to be truly marginalized is for there to be an open thread of discussion so people can see how hollow, empty and ridiculous it truly is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is blame to be placed for this kid going wrong, but it is not the website.  It may have added to the hate he already felt, but that machination already existed.  The kid knew the difference between right from wrong.  He continually chose to ignore doing the right thing.  The Nazi website was simply a means for this kid to justify the already existing evil and contempt for doing what is right that he held. </p>
<p>The Nazi ideology is rampantly evil, however its right to exist and for people to speak it must not be infringed.  It would set a precedent to be taken advantage of so that more of our rights can be eroded.  The only way for the Nazi ideology to be truly marginalized is for there to be an open thread of discussion so people can see how hollow, empty and ridiculous it truly is.</p>
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		<title>By: stan</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/03/22/another/comment-page-1/#comment-29367</link>
		<dc:creator>stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yikes! Show a little sympathy for this kid. Reservations are a different breed of cat. His dad committed suicide and his mom was in Mpls because of brain damage from an auto accident.  And his grandpa was living with a lady much younger than him. Read a little more about this and think a little more.
Regarding the Nazi website..The world spent a lot of blood and tears to remove this scourge from the face of the earth and you want to give them freedom of speech? This kid was given aid and comfort by them. You&#039;re all so cold-hearted. This is what gives &quot;conservatives&quot; a bad name and why some have tried to attach the appellation &quot;compassionate&quot; to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yikes! Show a little sympathy for this kid. Reservations are a different breed of cat. His dad committed suicide and his mom was in Mpls because of brain damage from an auto accident.  And his grandpa was living with a lady much younger than him. Read a little more about this and think a little more.<br />
Regarding the Nazi website..The world spent a lot of blood and tears to remove this scourge from the face of the earth and you want to give them freedom of speech? This kid was given aid and comfort by them. You&#8217;re all so cold-hearted. This is what gives &#8220;conservatives&#8221; a bad name and why some have tried to attach the appellation &#8220;compassionate&#8221; to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Blueberry</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/03/22/another/comment-page-1/#comment-29338</link>
		<dc:creator>Blueberry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I looked at the Nazi.org site.

Just wondering, if they want to send all people back to the land of their origins does that mean they all have to go back to Europe?

And what about us poor misbegotten people of mixed ancestory?  Does the American Indian 1/8th of me get to stay here while the other parts get shipped back?

I agree with La Shawn, these people should be allowed to speak.  But before they kill La Shawn and ship back her dead body they&#039;ll have to get over my dead body first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I looked at the Nazi.org site.</p>
<p>Just wondering, if they want to send all people back to the land of their origins does that mean they all have to go back to Europe?</p>
<p>And what about us poor misbegotten people of mixed ancestory?  Does the American Indian 1/8th of me get to stay here while the other parts get shipped back?</p>
<p>I agree with La Shawn, these people should be allowed to speak.  But before they kill La Shawn and ship back her dead body they&#8217;ll have to get over my dead body first.</p>
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		<title>By: David L</title>
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		<dc:creator>David L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see many more questions now than I do answers.  Know this much, Jeffrey Weise was a loser.  Why?  Weise bought into the concept of hate.   You are not going to win at life by going through life being mad.

As for the Nazi website, I don&#039;t see the website as a causative factor.  Weise was attracted to the website because he was a hate filled loser.  Personally I think the webside serves a useful funtion, it gives insight into who some of the losers are.

Depressing is the fact Weise attracked the attention of the authorities but they seemed impotent to stop him.  Like Columbine, we can indentify our ticking time bombs.   We just can&#039;t defuse them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see many more questions now than I do answers.  Know this much, Jeffrey Weise was a loser.  Why?  Weise bought into the concept of hate.   You are not going to win at life by going through life being mad.</p>
<p>As for the Nazi website, I don&#8217;t see the website as a causative factor.  Weise was attracted to the website because he was a hate filled loser.  Personally I think the webside serves a useful funtion, it gives insight into who some of the losers are.</p>
<p>Depressing is the fact Weise attracked the attention of the authorities but they seemed impotent to stop him.  Like Columbine, we can indentify our ticking time bombs.   We just can&#8217;t defuse them.</p>
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		<title>By: Walter E. Wallis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Walter E. Wallis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Mar 2005 04:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>La Shawn, please stay. If someone needs to go to Africa, &quot;I&#039;ve Got A Little List.&quot; You ain&#039;t on it. 
Apparently the kid was questioned a year ago about a threat to shoot &#039;em up to celebrate Hitler&#039;s birthday, but no action was taken.
He blew through a metal detector and shot an unarmed guard. Why was the guard unarmed?

&lt;em&gt;Walter, please check your e-mail. - Admin&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>La Shawn, please stay. If someone needs to go to Africa, &#8220;I&#8217;ve Got A Little List.&#8221; You ain&#8217;t on it.<br />
Apparently the kid was questioned a year ago about a threat to shoot &#8216;em up to celebrate Hitler&#8217;s birthday, but no action was taken.<br />
He blew through a metal detector and shot an unarmed guard. Why was the guard unarmed?</p>
<p><em>Walter, please check your e-mail. &#8211; Admin</em></p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/03/22/another/comment-page-1/#comment-29314</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Mar 2005 03:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nazis aren&#039;t the reason this kid pulled the trigger.  His parents aren&#039;t the reason.  He alone is responsible for the choice he made.  Strong emotions are relevant, but the actual decision was not made by the past or by feelings or by Nazis.  It was made by him, in full knowledge of what he was doing, even in full ENJOYMENT of it.  Hate is a condition of the spirit, not a DECISION of the mind.  And it is not the hate that we are concerned with; it is the decision he made, and the unjust suffering that decision caused.

At times in my life I have been moved to harm or kill someone.  Lately, it&#039;s been Michael Schiavo I&#039;ve wanted to kill (and tomorrow I will still want to do that).  But, amazingly, I&#039;ve never actually killed anyone at all!  The distance between strong feelings and a conscious decision is greater than some would have us believe.  This kid planned all this.  He was not overcome and driven insane by those strong feelings.  Motivated, sure... but not unhinged.  He wasn&#039;t salivating and babbling and stumbling-- he was happy and smiling and aiming and firing.  He knew and enjoyed what he was doing.

At the core, we are what we do.  Nobody can spend his life without ever doing good and then protest &quot;but I&#039;m a good man!&quot;  The lack of evidence will disprove his assertion.  Murderers are defined by murder, not by schoolboy ridicule or parental abuse or strong emotions or Nazi websites.  

In 1991 my wife Amy was carjacked and raped and murdered; the killer was a married man with kids who had a restaurant job.  He had apparently decided during the night that the world was unfair and somebody was going to have to pay... he had a few convictions, purse snatching and so forth, but this decision he made to rape and kill Amy was conscious and calculating and careful.  Far from being out of his mind, he was probably operating at peak efficiency when he did it.  

Tough life?  Maybe.  Bad influences?  Probably.  But someone else to blame for what he did?  

NO WAY.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nazis aren&#8217;t the reason this kid pulled the trigger.  His parents aren&#8217;t the reason.  He alone is responsible for the choice he made.  Strong emotions are relevant, but the actual decision was not made by the past or by feelings or by Nazis.  It was made by him, in full knowledge of what he was doing, even in full ENJOYMENT of it.  Hate is a condition of the spirit, not a DECISION of the mind.  And it is not the hate that we are concerned with; it is the decision he made, and the unjust suffering that decision caused.</p>
<p>At times in my life I have been moved to harm or kill someone.  Lately, it&#8217;s been Michael Schiavo I&#8217;ve wanted to kill (and tomorrow I will still want to do that).  But, amazingly, I&#8217;ve never actually killed anyone at all!  The distance between strong feelings and a conscious decision is greater than some would have us believe.  This kid planned all this.  He was not overcome and driven insane by those strong feelings.  Motivated, sure&#8230; but not unhinged.  He wasn&#8217;t salivating and babbling and stumbling&#8211; he was happy and smiling and aiming and firing.  He knew and enjoyed what he was doing.</p>
<p>At the core, we are what we do.  Nobody can spend his life without ever doing good and then protest &#8220;but I&#8217;m a good man!&#8221;  The lack of evidence will disprove his assertion.  Murderers are defined by murder, not by schoolboy ridicule or parental abuse or strong emotions or Nazi websites.  </p>
<p>In 1991 my wife Amy was carjacked and raped and murdered; the killer was a married man with kids who had a restaurant job.  He had apparently decided during the night that the world was unfair and somebody was going to have to pay&#8230; he had a few convictions, purse snatching and so forth, but this decision he made to rape and kill Amy was conscious and calculating and careful.  Far from being out of his mind, he was probably operating at peak efficiency when he did it.  </p>
<p>Tough life?  Maybe.  Bad influences?  Probably.  But someone else to blame for what he did?  </p>
<p>NO WAY.</p>
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		<title>By: stan</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/03/22/another/comment-page-1/#comment-29310</link>
		<dc:creator>stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Mar 2005 02:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry...their ancestors, not they&#039;re ancestors.</description>
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