You may have heard that a gang of thugs called Mara Salvatrucha will be on hand to conduct criminal activity (Do you like that euphemism?) in Arizona next month against law-abiding patriots known as the Minuteman Project, a group of volunteers ready and willing to protect America’s southern border.
Jim Gilchrist, the group’s founder and the epitome of courage, said, “We’re not worried because half of our recruits are retired trained combat soldiers. And those guys are just a bunch of punks.” (Source)
That’s manly man talk. I wish our president would say it, but instead, he utters tripe like this: “I’m against vigilantes in the United States of America. I’m for enforcing law in a rational way. That’s why you got a Border Patrol, and they ought to be in charge of enforcing the border.”
Shameful! I wonder what George Bush has to say to MS-13? “Welcome to our border, boys!” He knows what that band of outlaws is capable of, but he acts as though his countrymen are the outlaws. Read this, Mr. Bush:
Many of the Minuteman volunteers are expected to be armed, although organizers of the border vigil have prohibited them from carrying rifles. Only those people with a license to carry a handgun will be allowed to do so, Mr. Gilchrist said.An operational plan calls for teams of four to eight volunteers to be deployed along the targeted 20-mile stretch of border at intervals of 200 to 300 yards, along with observation posts and a command center.
Mr. Gilchrist said some of the patrols and posts will be right on the U.S.-Mexico border, while others will be located farther north. The volunteers also have been told to “make lots of noise and burn campfires at night to be very visible.”
The Minuteman volunteers are within their rights, unlike the millions of illegal aliens in our country. The president sits idly by while America is burdened to the breaking point. What is wrong with him???
Michelle Malkin is one American who’s dead serious about doing something to raise awareness. In addition to her own blog, she’s started The Immigration Blog. Michelle writes:
Readers ask me “What can I do?” and express frustration with their inability to make a difference in the immigration debate. Quit complaining. Support one of these citizen efforts. Or start your own. Read up on what made the Prop. 200 campaign in Arizona a winner. Then start your own. Read our blog. Or start your own.Your country’s sovereignty and security are in your hands.
Update: How to report illegal aliens.
Bryan Preston: “MS-13 constitutes a clear and present danger to the United States.”
Fausta comments on a New York Times op-ed about the deadly MS-13.
Update II: Read this Newsweek article on MS-13 – The Most Dangerous Gang in America.
Update III (3/29): More news about the gang of witness slayers. These thugs picked up right where DC’s black gangs left off.
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That’s why you got a Border Patrol, and they ought to be in charge of enforcing the border.
They ought to be indeed!
I read that article and thought of you, La Shawn. If the MS13 gang actually does attack the Minuteman Patrol, will the US government come to their aid? If Mexican citizens start murdering American citizens, this whole thing will blow up in Bush’s face. He’d better put the Nat’l Guard down there quick.
It’s nice to know the Left does have its own militia.
Next thing you know, they’ll have forces sworn to protect a hospice with lethal force.
-T
Someone referred to these guys as an “Undocumented Border Patrol.”
I would disagree with Michelle Malkin’s remedies. Starting another blog or group or supporting AZ’s Prop 200 are a waste of time. MadMikey put forth a letter to the President himself. It was wonderful and was posted here a few days ago. The same kind should be sent to Senators and Representatives in all the border states, including the northern border. The letters should NOT address the issue of “illegals.” That should be done separately. It should address the issue of national security only and urgently and also contain appeals to inspect more of the containers at the ports. I’m not a blogger nor will I be but maybe La Shawn can get something going where massive amounts of letters and even petitions come from the bloggers that already exist. I would also think that letters of support and encouragement should be sent to Lou Dobbs at CNN, who has labored tirelessly in this area with little fanfare. He has a generally good reputation in contrast to some of the more conservative bloggers and commentators, whose overly harsh rhetoric turns many folk off. Dobbs is also working very hard on the issue of job losses to Asia and the increasingingly troublesome trade deficit with China. He is the real hero right now on these issues and commands respect from most.
Why? Are you the site police? USAAISC Headquarters. Hmmmm…maybe you are the police. – Admin
Again, I ask:
“Why? Are you the site police? USAAISC Headquarters. Hmmmm…maybe you are the police.”
You get around, too. – Admin
If this happens with those criminal gangs then dont you think its time to declare war on mexico or central america? its time to destroy these gangs and not be so damn whimpy about it.
MS-13 members who are suspected of crimes should be arrested. Minutemen who attempt to enforce the law without being sworn officers, if in violation of law, should be arrested. However, they may have the right to make citizen’s arrests.
Regardless, illegal violence, by any person, minuteman or MS-13, should be stopped and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
Q: So, why didn’t the Minutemen just apply for jobs at the freaking INS?
A: Then they wouldn’t have a media circus that distracts from the fact that most of our domestic protection forces are deployed on nearly the exact opposite side of the planet from the Mexican border. Next silly question.
Who is protecting our Northern Borders!? I propose to send squadrons of missle yielding American Bald Eagles to the north to bomb the enemies of the great white. I’m not worried about southerners taking minimum wage jobs that most white people don’t want anyway. I’m worried about those Canadians taking the high paying, upper class positions. They are much smarter than most white americans anyway.
Profanity deleted.
Also, in regard to Canada:
“Officials concede the 370-mile Arizona border is the most porous stretch on the U.S.-Mexico line. Moreover, recent intelligence show that al-Qaida terrorists are likely to enter the country through the Mexico border, James Loy, the deputy secretary of the Homeland Security Department, said last week.” – Admin
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Q: So, why didn’t the Minutemen just apply for jobs at the freaking INS?
A. First of all, like any government agency, the INS has a limited budget, hence limited personnel space.
Secondly, most of the Minutemen probably aren’t looking to have the media even notice them, much less generate a “media circus”. I’m pretty sure their intentions are to do what they can’t to slow the flow of illegal immigration. Some people do in fact mean what they say, Mr. Conspiracy Theory.
Thirdly, troops stationed in Iraq and Afghanistan have nothing whatsoever to do with the Mexican government exporting their own people. In a perfect world, the U.S. military would have nothing better to do than stand guard at the border, but there’s more pressing matters abroad. You know, taking the fight to the enemy, and so on and so forth.
Next silly question?
Hey, basketball guy, I’ll have the eggs and spam bacon without the spam, please.
With the caving in on Schiavo and the politically correct approach to border security, I think its high time for true conservatives to leave the GOP. The Constitution Party is calling. With Bush pandering the so-called “middle” and the rise of the gay rights axis of evil: Rudy G – Ahnold – Pataki, the Republicans have lost me.
http://www.constitutionparty.com/
I’ve been flirting with the idea, Steve. Not joining, but checking out the platform. I’ve been registered “Undeclared” my whole voting life and plan to keep it that way.
Army NCO guy,
Is it that Mexico’s exporting their people or that we’re importing them? Is it that South America’s exporting their drugs to us or is it that we’re importing drugs from them? The pressing matters abroad are more important than protecting our borders? Why are these issues either<>or? Aren’t both true at the same time?
These people in the Minuteman project are are either naïve or deluded enough to buy into the post-9/11 rhetoric from the right. The Bush administration, nor any president for that matter has ever had a vested interest in stopping illegal immigration. Illegal immigrants are a vital part of the US economy, with at least 12 million currently working in this country. Illegal and legal immigrants compose the majority of the workforce in industries such as, home health care, hospital workers, security, taxi drivers, food service, construction,farming etc. They take and keep the jobs that your average US teenager hold up their noses at.
Mr. Gilchrist, a supposed Vietnam veteran, sounds like a lot of veterans from that war who went there and never saw any real action. Rednecks who came back talking about “killing gook’s and being in the ****,” when in fact they spent their tours driving trucks or working in kitchens. Anybody who really saw action over there never went looking for it again. Because after being in “the ****” they quickly came to the realization that it’s much better to never see any action, or be faced with the necessity of taking the life another human being. The kind of bravado mentioned in that article doesn’t come from Manly men, it comes from insecure losers, still desperate to prove their manhood. A conflict with a bunch of unarmed women and children trying to escape Mexico’s poverty, sounds about like their speed.
I guess you’ve no regard and sharp remarks for the “immigrants” raping and killing people, just the ones “trying to escape Mexico’s poverty.” That’s no excuse to break the law and then ask the law-abiding to pay for the privilege.
Stan, I can’t say whether we’re importing Mexican labor into this country or not. However, the rest of your points are valid- yes, we import drugs at a level that keeps countries like Colombia in chaos. And should we be able to fight terrorists around the world and protect our borders? Absolutely. I was simply responding to McAmerican’s apparent claim that having troops overseas makes America weaker here.
As to the point about importing Mexicans- I honestly don’t know- but it is obvious that the Mexican government tries to export them regardless.
“undeclared” is a good option as well. Keeps them guessing and less able to take folks for granted on straight party line votes.
“That’s no excuse to break the law and then ask the law-abiding to pay for the privilege.”
Agreed. I grew up in a poor neighborhood and we (nor our parents) ever used poverty as an excuse for crime.
To: MS-13 associates
Hate to tell you amigos – I’m not exactly shaking in my boots upon hearing you might pop by the MMP event. Recent experience with a similar group of thugs called the Fedayeen Saddam, was, to say the least, anti-climatic and disappointing. Hopefully you are made of stronger stuff.
You see – thugs like you are common the world over – very tough looking, impressive when armed, and downright scary when the odds are 100 to 1 in your favor.
However – that’s not going be the case in AZ. There’s going to be hundreds of MinuteMen, and let me assure you – it’s going to take a bit more then some nasty gang ‘tats’ and a random drive-by or two to get anyone more then mildly concerned. Most of us deal with that every day in LA before we have our second cup of coffee. You are going to have to be impressive and innovative.
The Arizona desert isn’t some central american cesspool, or LA barrio, – it’s a playing field where you will be NOT be the home team. And the Minutemen aren’t the normal senior citizens and working families you intimidate and terrorize. You could be in for an unpleasant welcome.
I think the chance of any appearance by MS-13 is about the same as an Easter bunny sighting. However, there is more then adequate rooms available for you at the Cochise County Jail.
?Comprende?
Via con Dios!
Quick note to Aaron –
I’m not going to comment on your inaccurate characterization of the Minutemen (and women) of being deluded simpletons, nor of the need for the current flood of illegal immigration to continue. Those are matters of personal opinion, and certainly everyone is express a viewpoint.
However, I’m forced to take you to on disparaging a man you have never met, and dredging up just about every negative stereotype of Vietnam vets.
Having actually met Jim G – allow me to correct you on the following points.
1. Jim’s DD-214 (record of military service) clearly shows he was ‘in county’ at the time of the Vietnam war.
2. Jim was a RTO (radio telephone operator) assigned to a USMC infantry unit. Not a cook.
3. Jim was wounded, and received not only a purple heart, but is on disability because of his service to our country.
4. Jim has never used the word ‘gook’ or other racial epithet in my presence.
5. He’s never expressed anything other then compassion for the majority of people who cross the border, nor sought to de-humanize them.
6. Jim and his wife are about the sweetest and most generous folks I’ve met in a long time. He’s the furthest thing from a ‘wanna-be’ I can imagine, and really has nothing to prove to anyone.
About the only thing you got correct was his inaccurate statement about MS-13 being ‘punks’ – They are ‘thugs’ and have worked very hard to earn that distinction. Their propensity for senseless violence and random killing elevates them above mere ‘punks’. Going forward – he will use the proper description when referring to these fine gentlemen.
John S,
I’ve been on your side but your rhetoric regarding the M-13 won’t help your cause in any way. It makes you “sound” like a vigilante or mercenary, even though I don’t think you are.
NCO guy,
I think we’re importing because we are pretty much guaranteeing that they’ll get work. I also think that we’re weaker at the border, not because we have troops abroad but because we don’t have any here. Half of our troops in Iraq are National Guard. They should be here but we probably would need at least 50,000+ regular Army to replace them. Unfortunately, Army recruiting is way down because our guys and girls don’t want to go to Iraq. So, we’re in a world of hurt.
Thank you La Shawn!
La Shawn,
There definitely needs to be a third party. Neither of the two we have now can be trusted.
Stan – good point on the MS-13 rant – I had a bit too much ‘go juice’ this AM. I don’t relish the thought of an incident, but the level of panic over this is almost silly. No need to rise to it myself.
You gave me some good advice, and I’ve been passing it along to all the MMP folks – movements like this have a bad reputation becasue of anti-social and irresponsible behavior by others. The burden is on us to conduct ourselves diffrently.
Got to ease up on the diet coke.
Thanks for your support. Will do our best to keep it!
John
Well, between this and the Terri situation, I think I’m going to ditch the Republican party and vote for the Constitution party. Republicans, at least most of them, might have nice ideas, but they’re much too weak to back them up. I can’t believe that Democrats are still running the show in Congress!
John s.,
From here in Vista, I got your back…
RE: How to Report an Illegal..
This is nuts…no police or Border Patrol or Homeland Security folks will get involved in this. And if you happen to pick out a Mexican who is a U.S. citizen you’re leaving yourself open for a lawsuit. Once illegals get more than a mile or two from the border, they’re home free. If you try to report one to any police officer in CA or CHP or Border Patrol agent outside the official checkpoints, you’ll get told to stop bothering them. That’s why the Minutemen at least have the right idea. Notice that they’re not doing this in Tucson or Phoenix…they’re staying close to the border where some agents should be nearby. All this stuff on Michelle’s new immigration blog is irrelevant. The only thing relevant is to put pressure on elected Senators and Reps. in the border states. Or petition the President. The rest is talk, talk and more talk…stirs people up but accomplishes nothing.
It would be much easier to report an illegal employer. I noticed on one of the sites she refers to that Virginia is upset about the illegal workers hanging around. Wouldn’t the most obvious solution be to report the illegal employer that comes to pick them up in his truck or pickup? He’s the problem…he’s hiring them…that’s why they come…
“I read that article and thought of you, La Shawn. If the MS13 gang actually does attack the Minuteman Patrol, will the US government come to their aid? If Mexican citizens start murdering American citizens, this whole thing will blow up in Bush’s face. He’d better put the Nat’l Guard down there quick.”
Prophetic Repj. The Prez has just sent 500 new Border Control officers to Arizona.
Don’t tell me the politician’s aids aren’t reading blogs like La Shawns to get a better feel for what the people think are important. Don’t tell me La Shawn’s hard work on her blog and this immigration issue isn’t making a difference.
It is.
Jim R,
The President didn’t send an additional 500 agents to the border. He had nothing to do with it. The Border Patrol is sending them. 200 will be taken from Texas and California, leaving those borders less secure. An additional 300 are recruits that have yet to be trained.
Ok, then that means the Border Patrol must be reading La Shawn’s blog Stan.
Jim R,
I hope so…she’s been all over it. There’s a better likelihood that she influenced them rather than the president. I saw a photo in our paper this morning from Tombstone, AZ, where the Minutemen are rallying. A white women held a sign that said, “Osama Bin Laden loves open borders.” Good for her. But walking past her was a Mexican fellow in a dirty red T-shirt on which he had hastily scrawled, “Osama Bin Laden’s not a Mexican.”
How moronic! In addition, the white woman had a look of disdain on her face that made her look like a real Mexican hater or something. That, in my opinion, made the photo biased. The two signs made everything clear. The split-second look on her face was unfair to her and the cause.
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