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		<title>By: smokey l</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/04/11/minuteman/comment-page-2/#comment-40219</link>
		<dc:creator>smokey l</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2005 20:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe in a person applying for legal entrance into our country.  I believe that a resident of Mexico or Canada being employed on a daily basis in the United States. I believe local law enforcement should check for citizenship.  I believe all paperwork should be in order before a driver&#039;s lisence is issued. I also believe that these legal visitors should pay payroll taxes.  I believe they should be eligable to emergency medical care but their employer would be responsible for such care while on the job.  I believe that any child born within the confines of the United States should have citizenship---when they attain the age of majority.  Their parents could not stay in the United States just because they had a baby here. However if the parents thought it important enough they could keep their paperwork up until the child was eighteen or twenty-one and then they would be regular citizens.  To finish our ideal thoughts the parents could apply for citizenship and all could live happily ever after.
Sounds nice,huh?

I went through all of this to establish myself as a tolerant American citizen.  The reason for this qualification is leading me into the real reason for my writing.  THE MINUTEMAN PROJECT.  I would like to know more about it.  I might be interested in taking part. The national news media is basically ignoring it.  When they do it usually has a negative taste to it. A Tuson TV reporter who allegadely went undercover to gain information told of the orientation having an instruction about talking to the media, some of the participants toting shotguns around. The Border Patrol down plays it.  The ACLU tries to place it into a light that represents a bunch of militas.  Most of the blogs I&#039;ve seen seem to only represent one side of what the project really is. How do you really know?  I would hate to drive fifteen hundred miles and find out I didn&#039;t want to be a part of this group.  Boy, do we need a streight line reporting news service.
smokey l </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe in a person applying for legal entrance into our country.  I believe that a resident of Mexico or Canada being employed on a daily basis in the United States. I believe local law enforcement should check for citizenship.  I believe all paperwork should be in order before a driver&#8217;s lisence is issued. I also believe that these legal visitors should pay payroll taxes.  I believe they should be eligable to emergency medical care but their employer would be responsible for such care while on the job.  I believe that any child born within the confines of the United States should have citizenship&#8212;when they attain the age of majority.  Their parents could not stay in the United States just because they had a baby here. However if the parents thought it important enough they could keep their paperwork up until the child was eighteen or twenty-one and then they would be regular citizens.  To finish our ideal thoughts the parents could apply for citizenship and all could live happily ever after.<br />
Sounds nice,huh?</p>
<p>I went through all of this to establish myself as a tolerant American citizen.  The reason for this qualification is leading me into the real reason for my writing.  THE MINUTEMAN PROJECT.  I would like to know more about it.  I might be interested in taking part. The national news media is basically ignoring it.  When they do it usually has a negative taste to it. A Tuson TV reporter who allegadely went undercover to gain information told of the orientation having an instruction about talking to the media, some of the participants toting shotguns around. The Border Patrol down plays it.  The ACLU tries to place it into a light that represents a bunch of militas.  Most of the blogs I&#8217;ve seen seem to only represent one side of what the project really is. How do you really know?  I would hate to drive fifteen hundred miles and find out I didn&#8217;t want to be a part of this group.  Boy, do we need a streight line reporting news service.<br />
smokey l</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/04/11/minuteman/comment-page-2/#comment-38555</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Apr 2005 17:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obviously, the military is not waiting around on the politicians to make a decision before making plans to secure the border.

&lt;strong&gt;Preventing Armageddon I: Enhancing America&#039;s Border &amp; Port Security After 9/11&lt;/strong&gt; 
http://www.ccc.nps.navy.mil/si/2004/nov/zellenNOV04.asp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously, the military is not waiting around on the politicians to make a decision before making plans to secure the border.</p>
<p><strong>Preventing Armageddon I: Enhancing America&#8217;s Border &amp; Port Security After 9/11</strong><br />
<a href="http://www.ccc.nps.navy.mil/si/2004/nov/zellenNOV04.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.ccc.nps.navy.mil/si/2004/nov/zellenNOV04.asp</a></p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/04/11/minuteman/comment-page-2/#comment-37274</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Apr 2005 15:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Suzie, just a note.  

There&#039;s been occasions where I&#039;ve hung out at where ever it is that day workers hang out looking for pick-up work.   And I&#039;m not an immigrant. Nor were some of the others.  Seeing how those pick-up spots are common local knowledge, I don&#039;t think the illegals were stealing jobs per se, since real Americans have an equal opportunity to look for work by hanging out there as well.  That they don&#039;t indicates most Americans would rather be elsewhere, instead of looking for work that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suzie, just a note.  </p>
<p>There&#8217;s been occasions where I&#8217;ve hung out at where ever it is that day workers hang out looking for pick-up work.   And I&#8217;m not an immigrant. Nor were some of the others.  Seeing how those pick-up spots are common local knowledge, I don&#8217;t think the illegals were stealing jobs per se, since real Americans have an equal opportunity to look for work by hanging out there as well.  That they don&#8217;t indicates most Americans would rather be elsewhere, instead of looking for work that way.</p>
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		<title>By: Suzie Brown</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/04/11/minuteman/comment-page-2/#comment-37268</link>
		<dc:creator>Suzie Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stan,

I have written, called and got directly in my government officials face, they do not care about this issue, because they are benefiting from this crime.

The only people who want these illegal immigrants here, are the illegal immigrants, themselves, their families and the traitors reaping the financial and political windfall of this crime.

I have done the work of calling, writing, like the Minutemen, we are going to have to get physical about it.

All they have to do, to rid our great country, of these invaders, deputize Americans, believe me, we will get the job done.

When I say physical, I do not mean violent.  I mean, get off our sofas, and act.

Tell me.  If we are going to continue to have immigration, who do we allow in?

Only those of hispanic descent? Sounds racist to me.

You want action?  Know of any illegal day workers, hanging around on the corners of your streets, to steal jobs from Americans?

Well, unemployed Americans, should be right there at those same sights, demanding, their treasonist countrymen, hire them.

Action, action, action, we must stop the talk.

Why is it hundreds of illegal Mexicans, can unite to flood the stairways of our courthouses and demand their rights, when they are suppose to be so hard working.

Most Americans, do not have that kind of time, because they really are hard at work.

It is our job to remove these illegal immigrants.  We have every right to protect our country.

But we must be of one mind, and one accord.

I am increasingly, becoming ashamed, to call myself an American.

We use to be tough, now we have become a bunch of pansies, allowing everyone to walk all over us.

We are allowing another country to take us over, and all they have to do is walk across our border.

Thank you, 

Suzie, in Ohio

Have a great day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stan,</p>
<p>I have written, called and got directly in my government officials face, they do not care about this issue, because they are benefiting from this crime.</p>
<p>The only people who want these illegal immigrants here, are the illegal immigrants, themselves, their families and the traitors reaping the financial and political windfall of this crime.</p>
<p>I have done the work of calling, writing, like the Minutemen, we are going to have to get physical about it.</p>
<p>All they have to do, to rid our great country, of these invaders, deputize Americans, believe me, we will get the job done.</p>
<p>When I say physical, I do not mean violent.  I mean, get off our sofas, and act.</p>
<p>Tell me.  If we are going to continue to have immigration, who do we allow in?</p>
<p>Only those of hispanic descent? Sounds racist to me.</p>
<p>You want action?  Know of any illegal day workers, hanging around on the corners of your streets, to steal jobs from Americans?</p>
<p>Well, unemployed Americans, should be right there at those same sights, demanding, their treasonist countrymen, hire them.</p>
<p>Action, action, action, we must stop the talk.</p>
<p>Why is it hundreds of illegal Mexicans, can unite to flood the stairways of our courthouses and demand their rights, when they are suppose to be so hard working.</p>
<p>Most Americans, do not have that kind of time, because they really are hard at work.</p>
<p>It is our job to remove these illegal immigrants.  We have every right to protect our country.</p>
<p>But we must be of one mind, and one accord.</p>
<p>I am increasingly, becoming ashamed, to call myself an American.</p>
<p>We use to be tough, now we have become a bunch of pansies, allowing everyone to walk all over us.</p>
<p>We are allowing another country to take us over, and all they have to do is walk across our border.</p>
<p>Thank you, </p>
<p>Suzie, in Ohio</p>
<p>Have a great day.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/04/11/minuteman/comment-page-2/#comment-37162</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stan, thanks.  If nothing else, I think it&#039;s a starting point for the politicians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stan, thanks.  If nothing else, I think it&#8217;s a starting point for the politicians.</p>
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		<title>By: stan</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/04/11/minuteman/comment-page-2/#comment-37143</link>
		<dc:creator>stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy,
I need to think your ideas through a little more but it&#039;s really good work for you to have put something specific together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy,<br />
I need to think your ideas through a little more but it&#8217;s really good work for you to have put something specific together.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/04/11/minuteman/comment-page-2/#comment-36950</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stan, I was dooming and glooming.  Try this for a reasoned approach:

I see a possible and compassionate resolution, and Bush has the political capital to expend on, dare I say, a nuanced and credible position on the following;

1) State unequivocably that future illegal border crossing will not be tolerated beginning on a certain date.

2) Lay out the terms for amnesty, set up a review board for every city &amp; town â€“ say about a 30 mile radius â€“ and give all illegals 90 days to register for an amnesty review hearing and receive a number.

3) In that 90 day grace period, those that know they wonâ€™t qualify may as well pack up their bags, take care of loose ends and leave. On their way out, they will have to submit to a biometric exit registration, so we know who they are should they think about returning before the â€œundocumented statute of limitationsâ€ runs out. (depending on circumstances, several years to never)

4) Those who think they have a shot at amnesty will continue as before while waiting for their hearing. the same conditions will also discourage those trying to sneak across, since a) they wonâ€™t be able to meet the qualifications, &amp; b) if caught, they will be registered via biometrics and barred for life â€“ itâ€™d make sense for them to wait and go thru proper channels.

5) Any found here after 90 days without a review number will be summarily barred for life.

6) The results of the review could run the gamut from a 3-month per year guest worker visa (seasonal workers) to a green card. (Before yaâ€™ll get blown out of shape, all of the conditions need to be thot out and codified before we start the process.

7) Once the wrinkles have been ironed out, we can then begin processing foreign applicants from their home country for temporary work visas.

8) Also we need to lean on crooked foreign leaders that breed miserable conditions for their citizens

Once we have an orderly process, the burden on employers to vet potential empolyers will be dramatically lightened and workers will pay into the tax base â€“ all the more reason for a flat tax/sales tax system. And we will have realistically (can never 100% eliminate w/o becoming a police state) and dramatically reduced the illegal problem</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stan, I was dooming and glooming.  Try this for a reasoned approach:</p>
<p>I see a possible and compassionate resolution, and Bush has the political capital to expend on, dare I say, a nuanced and credible position on the following;</p>
<p>1) State unequivocably that future illegal border crossing will not be tolerated beginning on a certain date.</p>
<p>2) Lay out the terms for amnesty, set up a review board for every city &#038; town â€“ say about a 30 mile radius â€“ and give all illegals 90 days to register for an amnesty review hearing and receive a number.</p>
<p>3) In that 90 day grace period, those that know they wonâ€™t qualify may as well pack up their bags, take care of loose ends and leave. On their way out, they will have to submit to a biometric exit registration, so we know who they are should they think about returning before the â€œundocumented statute of limitationsâ€ runs out. (depending on circumstances, several years to never)</p>
<p>4) Those who think they have a shot at amnesty will continue as before while waiting for their hearing. the same conditions will also discourage those trying to sneak across, since a) they wonâ€™t be able to meet the qualifications, &#038; b) if caught, they will be registered via biometrics and barred for life â€“ itâ€™d make sense for them to wait and go thru proper channels.</p>
<p>5) Any found here after 90 days without a review number will be summarily barred for life.</p>
<p>6) The results of the review could run the gamut from a 3-month per year guest worker visa (seasonal workers) to a green card. (Before yaâ€™ll get blown out of shape, all of the conditions need to be thot out and codified before we start the process.</p>
<p>7) Once the wrinkles have been ironed out, we can then begin processing foreign applicants from their home country for temporary work visas.</p>
<p> <img src='http://lashawnbarber.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> Also we need to lean on crooked foreign leaders that breed miserable conditions for their citizens</p>
<p>Once we have an orderly process, the burden on employers to vet potential empolyers will be dramatically lightened and workers will pay into the tax base â€“ all the more reason for a flat tax/sales tax system. And we will have realistically (can never 100% eliminate w/o becoming a police state) and dramatically reduced the illegal problem</p>
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		<title>By: mj</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/04/11/minuteman/comment-page-2/#comment-36918</link>
		<dc:creator>mj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Apr 2005 05:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stan--thanks for the explanation--sounds like a VERY tough undertaking. I thought my question wasn&#039;t posted, which is why I just read your answer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stan&#8211;thanks for the explanation&#8211;sounds like a VERY tough undertaking. I thought my question wasn&#8217;t posted, which is why I just read your answer.</p>
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		<title>By: stan</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/04/11/minuteman/comment-page-2/#comment-36906</link>
		<dc:creator>stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Apr 2005 02:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy,
Surely your tongue must be deeply imbedded in your cheek...no sane person would be willing to trade millions of deaths in the U.S. for the millions in the pressure cooker to the south. If I remember, you said above that each and every one should be deported. That&#039;s what would cause them to go crazy. I don&#039;t understand...either I&#039;m totally misunderstanding you or you&#039;re acting irrationally. And I&#039;m not calling you anti-American.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy,<br />
Surely your tongue must be deeply imbedded in your cheek&#8230;no sane person would be willing to trade millions of deaths in the U.S. for the millions in the pressure cooker to the south. If I remember, you said above that each and every one should be deported. That&#8217;s what would cause them to go crazy. I don&#8217;t understand&#8230;either I&#8217;m totally misunderstanding you or you&#8217;re acting irrationally. And I&#8217;m not calling you anti-American.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/04/11/minuteman/comment-page-2/#comment-36902</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Apr 2005 02:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stan, it may be semantics to you, but I think there is a different dynamic at work whether a Senator is sent by public voters or sent by legislative branch.  Sort of the dynamic vis a vis over the Bolton confirmation.  Imagine if we the voters got to directly elect someone to the UN.

I&#039;m not arguing about protecting the opportunities of folk from south of the border.  I&#039;m arguing that if there&#039;s no relief on their pressures that they will explode and the damage could be greater than the damage by a terrorist bomb.  

Afterall, we already have 10 - 20 million illegals within our midst that could make anything inflicted by a bunch of misogynist ragheads look like a minor incident.  Not that I &quot;fear&quot; illegal immigrants, because I truly believe a majority only want a better chance.  But like a cornered animal will attack a much larger foe, 10 million people who feel like they&#039;re running for their lives will act irrationally and unpredictably.

Which is a greater loss?  A couple million in DC/NYC from a terroist attack or millions down south?  That&#039;s my &quot;Kantian&quot; point that perhaps better that some die at the hands of evil doers in spite of my efforts to prevent it, but I wouldn&#039;t want to be party to a policy that is equally deadly to those whose only crime is to be born &quot;American&quot; in spirit but stuck in another land, just so we can maintain our sense of status quo.

Before you wig out and accuse me of being anti-American, let me say that I&#039;ve always believed that we should spend our blood and treasure to defeat tyranny.  Manifest destiny? Perhaps.  But I happen to believe that when we say &quot;We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights&quot;, the truths aren&#039;t unique to America. 

Throwing money at some organization (UN) and hope the problem goes away somehow or that if we tolerate/prop up a &quot;friendly&quot; dictator, things will maintain some sort of status quo (read real-politic) is a crock.  

I mean defeat tyranny, like we&#039;re doing in Iraq and should have done in &#039;91.  like we should have stood up to Hitler early on saving 10s of millions at the cost of a couple million.  Or like Hungary, or like Czechslovakia, or like Poland, or like Rawanda, or like Sudan, or like Cambodia, or like any other place that tyranny dares rear its head.  Like whack-a-mole.  

But I&#039;d wager you this, had we had the moral backbone then, we wouldn&#039;t have seen half of what we&#039;re seeing now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stan, it may be semantics to you, but I think there is a different dynamic at work whether a Senator is sent by public voters or sent by legislative branch.  Sort of the dynamic vis a vis over the Bolton confirmation.  Imagine if we the voters got to directly elect someone to the UN.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not arguing about protecting the opportunities of folk from south of the border.  I&#8217;m arguing that if there&#8217;s no relief on their pressures that they will explode and the damage could be greater than the damage by a terrorist bomb.  </p>
<p>Afterall, we already have 10 &#8211; 20 million illegals within our midst that could make anything inflicted by a bunch of misogynist ragheads look like a minor incident.  Not that I &#8220;fear&#8221; illegal immigrants, because I truly believe a majority only want a better chance.  But like a cornered animal will attack a much larger foe, 10 million people who feel like they&#8217;re running for their lives will act irrationally and unpredictably.</p>
<p>Which is a greater loss?  A couple million in DC/NYC from a terroist attack or millions down south?  That&#8217;s my &#8220;Kantian&#8221; point that perhaps better that some die at the hands of evil doers in spite of my efforts to prevent it, but I wouldn&#8217;t want to be party to a policy that is equally deadly to those whose only crime is to be born &#8220;American&#8221; in spirit but stuck in another land, just so we can maintain our sense of status quo.</p>
<p>Before you wig out and accuse me of being anti-American, let me say that I&#8217;ve always believed that we should spend our blood and treasure to defeat tyranny.  Manifest destiny? Perhaps.  But I happen to believe that when we say &#8220;We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights&#8221;, the truths aren&#8217;t unique to America. </p>
<p>Throwing money at some organization (UN) and hope the problem goes away somehow or that if we tolerate/prop up a &#8220;friendly&#8221; dictator, things will maintain some sort of status quo (read real-politic) is a crock.  </p>
<p>I mean defeat tyranny, like we&#8217;re doing in Iraq and should have done in &#8216;91.  like we should have stood up to Hitler early on saving 10s of millions at the cost of a couple million.  Or like Hungary, or like Czechslovakia, or like Poland, or like Rawanda, or like Sudan, or like Cambodia, or like any other place that tyranny dares rear its head.  Like whack-a-mole.  </p>
<p>But I&#8217;d wager you this, had we had the moral backbone then, we wouldn&#8217;t have seen half of what we&#8217;re seeing now.</p>
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		<title>By: stan</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/04/11/minuteman/comment-page-2/#comment-36873</link>
		<dc:creator>stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2005 23:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy,
They DO come in and represent their state&#039;s interests...that&#039;s why we have pork and a huge budget deficit. The only way they can stay elected is to get more from the tax pie for their state or district. And that&#039;s why all the conservative talk about balanced federal budgets for the last 45 years is a bunch of lying hypocrisy. They all want to get more money for their state and take it away from your&#039;s and mine. Or as VP Cheney said, &quot;President Reagan taught us that budget deficits don&#039;t matter.&quot; Say what?!!
And Andy, with no disrespect meant at all, I still can&#039;t believe that you&#039;re willing to accept more terrorist attacks so that we can protect the opportunities of folks from south of the border. I&#039;m truly sorry to disagree with you but I just can&#039;t buy that argument. The Minutemen will fade away in the next month or two when the AZ desert heats up and will be remembered only in very small footnotes in obscure history books, if at all (and I&#039;m for them).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy,<br />
They DO come in and represent their state&#8217;s interests&#8230;that&#8217;s why we have pork and a huge budget deficit. The only way they can stay elected is to get more from the tax pie for their state or district. And that&#8217;s why all the conservative talk about balanced federal budgets for the last 45 years is a bunch of lying hypocrisy. They all want to get more money for their state and take it away from your&#8217;s and mine. Or as VP Cheney said, &#8220;President Reagan taught us that budget deficits don&#8217;t matter.&#8221; Say what?!!<br />
And Andy, with no disrespect meant at all, I still can&#8217;t believe that you&#8217;re willing to accept more terrorist attacks so that we can protect the opportunities of folks from south of the border. I&#8217;m truly sorry to disagree with you but I just can&#8217;t buy that argument. The Minutemen will fade away in the next month or two when the AZ desert heats up and will be remembered only in very small footnotes in obscure history books, if at all (and I&#8217;m for them).</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2005 21:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, all I can say is that I think the tide is turning against the pro-undocumented base.  

Barring Federal intervention, what States can do is rollback all of the giveaways and what have you that encourage illegals to take advantage of our system.  Rollback the right to free schooling, healthcare, translation/bi-lingualism.  You want to work? Learn English and USE it.  Public officials shouldn&#039;t even give you the time of day &lt;em&gt;en Espanol&lt;/em&gt; if you&#039;re illegal.  

And no, the judicial branch does not have the last word, contrary to what the MSM/DNC would have us believe.  They can be countermanded and if need be impeached by the legislative branch.

You know, there was a reason why originally the Senate was supposed to be chosen by the legislature of the home State -- ACCOUNTABILITY!!!  The Senate is not a place to maintain a career.  They&#039;re to come in and represent their State&#039;s interest and not give a rat about some namby-pamby global test.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, all I can say is that I think the tide is turning against the pro-undocumented base.  </p>
<p>Barring Federal intervention, what States can do is rollback all of the giveaways and what have you that encourage illegals to take advantage of our system.  Rollback the right to free schooling, healthcare, translation/bi-lingualism.  You want to work? Learn English and USE it.  Public officials shouldn&#8217;t even give you the time of day <em>en Espanol</em> if you&#8217;re illegal.  </p>
<p>And no, the judicial branch does not have the last word, contrary to what the MSM/DNC would have us believe.  They can be countermanded and if need be impeached by the legislative branch.</p>
<p>You know, there was a reason why originally the Senate was supposed to be chosen by the legislature of the home State &#8212; ACCOUNTABILITY!!!  The Senate is not a place to maintain a career.  They&#8217;re to come in and represent their State&#8217;s interest and not give a rat about some namby-pamby global test.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2005 21:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stan, as for how much land, check my first comment up above.

As for States protecting the border, they can.  But they&#039;ll also will look inland for reimbursement.  I doubt they can shoot on sight.  that in itself will be a big deterrent.  Again, the Guard is severely strained in our taking the fight to the terrorist&#039;s turf.  That in itself has a bigger return on the buck as opposed to retreating back to our border.  

If that happens, then the terrorist will get in cahoots with Mexican drug lords and lob dirty bombs over the fence.  All that does nothing to alleviate the teeming masses looking for a better life.

I&#039;m sort of taking the Kantian view that maybe a bomb going off in DC or NYC is preferable to me being responsible for the deaths of innocents trying to get in or otherwise holding them down by denying that opportunity for a better life.

Frankly, we already have nests of terrorists within our midst.  Locking the border down will not prevent such a bomb going off.  There&#039;s plenty of off the shelf materials, along with radioactive materials for you or I to make such a dirty bomb.  In that sense, I&#039;m not AS worried about material crossing the border.

Here&#039;s an for instance:  regarding the recall of that 1950&#039;s Flu virus.   What&#039;s to stop some doctor who already received it from passing it off to his local terrorist to unleash it in your neighborhood.  Would that keep you up at night?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stan, as for how much land, check my first comment up above.</p>
<p>As for States protecting the border, they can.  But they&#8217;ll also will look inland for reimbursement.  I doubt they can shoot on sight.  that in itself will be a big deterrent.  Again, the Guard is severely strained in our taking the fight to the terrorist&#8217;s turf.  That in itself has a bigger return on the buck as opposed to retreating back to our border.  </p>
<p>If that happens, then the terrorist will get in cahoots with Mexican drug lords and lob dirty bombs over the fence.  All that does nothing to alleviate the teeming masses looking for a better life.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sort of taking the Kantian view that maybe a bomb going off in DC or NYC is preferable to me being responsible for the deaths of innocents trying to get in or otherwise holding them down by denying that opportunity for a better life.</p>
<p>Frankly, we already have nests of terrorists within our midst.  Locking the border down will not prevent such a bomb going off.  There&#8217;s plenty of off the shelf materials, along with radioactive materials for you or I to make such a dirty bomb.  In that sense, I&#8217;m not AS worried about material crossing the border.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s an for instance:  regarding the recall of that 1950&#8217;s Flu virus.   What&#8217;s to stop some doctor who already received it from passing it off to his local terrorist to unleash it in your neighborhood.  Would that keep you up at night?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Slater</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Slater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2005 21:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That won&#039;t be necessary.  I do believe that this society is already in a severe state of lockdown as it is.  Nor do we need to deport every last one of them.  Eisenhower&#039;s &quot;Operation Wetback&quot; was sucessful because, in addition to those captured and sent back, it sent a clear message that a mass incursion will not be tolerated by the U.S.  The message we are sending now is tacit approval, an overall winking at the problem and a cozying up to President Fox and his schemes.

As far as what we are to do, I think what we are doing has value in itself.  It begins here at the grassroot level with informed citizens, and especially those who have joined the Minutemen in their quest.  Much better, it would seem, than trying to contact our elected representatives [though we ought to do that as well, give &#039;em heck].  They are, in the main, bought and sold by the forces who wish a post-national New World Order and the end of sovereignty and borders.  One shining exception is Tom Tancredo -- how I wish I was in his district, I am about two miles further North in the district of Bush Bootlicker Bob Beauprez, Bah!  Rep. Tancredo has even spoke at the minutemen&#039;s opening day in Tombstone, Ariz.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That won&#8217;t be necessary.  I do believe that this society is already in a severe state of lockdown as it is.  Nor do we need to deport every last one of them.  Eisenhower&#8217;s &#8220;Operation Wetback&#8221; was sucessful because, in addition to those captured and sent back, it sent a clear message that a mass incursion will not be tolerated by the U.S.  The message we are sending now is tacit approval, an overall winking at the problem and a cozying up to President Fox and his schemes.</p>
<p>As far as what we are to do, I think what we are doing has value in itself.  It begins here at the grassroot level with informed citizens, and especially those who have joined the Minutemen in their quest.  Much better, it would seem, than trying to contact our elected representatives [though we ought to do that as well, give 'em heck].  They are, in the main, bought and sold by the forces who wish a post-national New World Order and the end of sovereignty and borders.  One shining exception is Tom Tancredo &#8212; how I wish I was in his district, I am about two miles further North in the district of Bush Bootlicker Bob Beauprez, Bah!  Rep. Tancredo has even spoke at the minutemen&#8217;s opening day in Tombstone, Ariz.</p>
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		<title>By: stan</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/04/11/minuteman/comment-page-2/#comment-36846</link>
		<dc:creator>stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2005 21:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy, 
I think I&#039;m more concerned about the terrorist threat at this point. I&#039;m not willing to wait for a dirty nuclear weapon going off in DC or NY to wake us up. 
I haven&#039;t checked to see how much land on the borders is state, federal or private but it seems like putting &quot;forts&quot; along the border in fairly close proximity to each other manned by the National Guard would work. I&#039;m taking the view that the Guard is synonymous with the militias in the Constitution. Am I on the right track? Fort Huachuca is very close to the border but I&#039;m of the mind that the Army shouldn&#039;t be involved in this, only the Guard.
And I don&#039;t want a national ID either for the same reason you gave. A SS card and # is scary enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy,<br />
I think I&#8217;m more concerned about the terrorist threat at this point. I&#8217;m not willing to wait for a dirty nuclear weapon going off in DC or NY to wake us up.<br />
I haven&#8217;t checked to see how much land on the borders is state, federal or private but it seems like putting &#8220;forts&#8221; along the border in fairly close proximity to each other manned by the National Guard would work. I&#8217;m taking the view that the Guard is synonymous with the militias in the Constitution. Am I on the right track? Fort Huachuca is very close to the border but I&#8217;m of the mind that the Army shouldn&#8217;t be involved in this, only the Guard.<br />
And I don&#8217;t want a national ID either for the same reason you gave. A SS card and # is scary enough.</p>
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