Ann Coulter on Food-Throwing Liberals

Well, better a pie than a gun or a bomb. Hmmmm… Now let’s see, who was that crazed right-wing, anti-abortion nutter…? Oh yeah, Eric Rudolph. Who was it who blew up that building in Oklahoma… D’oh! Another extreme right wing nutter.

This whole idea that liberals are virulent “haters” is such a tired spin point. Really, it’s totally beyond laughable. That’s the sort of garbage that Rush and O’Leilly spew all the time. Yeah, there are plenty of crazy-ass loons on the left side of the fence, (just as there are on the right) but what’s the point of falsely demonizing ALL liberals this way? This whole black/white with nothing in between “Crossfire” dynamic that goes on in the media these days (and you’re certainly not helping either with ridiculous comments like this!) is so futile. I generally hang at the AAR blog and frequently get blasted by some of the more extreme folks there for being a FReeper, which amuses me no end. Sheesh! Being a moderate these days is an increasingly tough roe to hoe.

“And isn’t this an ideological hate crime? The idiots should be punished for the physical act and their nasty thoughts.”

I don’t think ideology is one of them.

I am, however, in favor of more people getting pies in the face. Charlie Chaplin was a trailblazer. We should move on to people with actual power though, not these professional outrage artists.

Heh, once again Ann is too funny. And the moonbats/trolls are too pathetic.

I read somewhere that one of the traits of a party that is about to go down is when they look to the judicial branch and intimidation to save their necks: USSR, Georgia, Nigeria, Zimbabwe, Ukraine, Egypt…

It’s certainly convenient for Ms. Coulter to minimize all liberals by stereotyping that pie-throwing is an inherent liberal trait. How so? I’ve never thrown a pie at someone I disagree with and I never would. Neither would the overwhelming majority of liberals. Conservatives hate it when liberals stereotype them as religious fanatics, so how is this different? The violence of pie-throwing should be denounced, especially by liberals, but the cause and effect is not liberal equals violence. Give the criminal’s motive in the argument, but not as a blanket stereotype.

“The violence of pie-throwing should be denounced, especially by liberals,…”

Ok. [RedBeard drums fingers on desk, waiting]

Wouldn’t liberals label the pie throwing as an ideological “hate crime” if it came from a conservative pie thrower?

*giggles*

As I said earlier today on my own blog - ’tis better for them to throw pies than money at what they percieve as problems (although on second thought…Ann might not mind having greenbacks thrown in her direction, and most Americans would feel the same!). Anyhow, the dry-cleaning bill and a pie are much cheaper than taxes for the latest special interest cowpoo.

That said, it is scary that they’ll actually physically attack another human being - particularly a woman.

Red Tory,

Exactly right.

Walter E. Wallis Even though I shared McVeigh’s views of the Waco action, I gave no support to his bombing. I have seen no right wing rationalizations of that action, while the left reeks with celebration of pieing.

I don’t doubt that no one on the mainstream right supported McVeigh. I don’t doubt that no one on the mainstream right supports Rudolph. I haven’t seen anyone, anyone, on the left “celebrating” the pieing. Show me one example. Oh, you can’t, because you just imagined it.

If we admit it, we all know that Ms. Coulter loves this kind of thing and even invites it. She couldn’t even buy this kind of publicity for her next book or speaking engagement. She is little more than a flame-thrower and mocker using outrageous commentary to sell her wares. Pat is different. He used to be more Coulter-esque (maybe she learned it from him) until he ran for president. Forced to get out and communicate with average folks, he is a changed man and an eclectic and much more interesting and unpredictable political analyst. And I think pie throwers and salad dressing throwers should be locked up for assault.

Pies thrown at conservative mavens. Red paint splashed on furs. Pre-emptive wars launched because of WMD. (What? NO WMD?) I am just saying the world is infected with bad manners. The ideology of the pie thrower/paint splasher/war launcher is irrelevant. Like we didn’t already know that.

I’d rather have a pie thrown at me than get shot at, you know?

“The idiots should be punished for the physical act and their nasty thoughts.”

Prince once sang,

If a man is guilty
For what goes on in his mind
Give me the Electric Chair
For all my future crimes.

I don’t like random violence. This country has a veritable and veritifiable history of wanton violence. Remember Manifest Destiny? Oftentimes this country’s foreign policy has been violent, for no other reason than to further the aims of the businessmen that owned whichever party was in power.

I don’t know what is in the brains of those that pull such childish pranks. I just am glad they didn’t decide to shoot or drag behind a vehicle or bomb the residence/workplace of the object of their derision.

Messrs. Buchanan and Kristol have displayed uncommon grace in declining to press charges against those that assaulted them. I find some good in that, seeing as I am commanded to forgive no matter the offense. Their willingness to let such pranks just die actually blunts the effect the hurlers were trying to acheive. Remember Jesus didn’t respond to the accusations leveled against Him. Also, remember it takes two to tango/argue. Maturity trumps immaturity in the grand scheme of things.

Andy, let me say it like this: people do stupid things without regard for the effects on others. My point was/is that bad manners exist throughout the ideological spectrum.

Just so you can know where I stand on the Iraq war (since you seem to have a problem with it being mentioned), I personally was against it. UNLESS GWBush is somehow fulfilling prophecy, the U. S. had NO RIGHT to invade Iraq. I don’t care if you liked Saddam or not. It is a violation of international law to just invade a sovereign nation. BTW, the reasons we were fed for this war being necessary were LIES. All of them.

Now that we have been there two years, I hope we stay long enough to ‘finish the job’. The Iraqi people deserve a STABLE, secure place to live. It isn’t that now. While reports suggest that the insurgency is diminishing, there NEVER would have been an insurgency without an invasion. Cause. Effect.

One other SMALL thing: why do you think it is apropos to pick and choose what you want to try to deride? INTENTIONALLY taking someone or something out of context is LYING. That is immature and (I want to believe) beneath you. Shame on you, sir.

I think both parties and all ideologies should get in on this Soupy Sales fun! Pies to the face for all these hypocritical politicians no matter which party should be the norm so these jokers will stop taking themselves so seriously.

I’m sure some of you conservatives would change your view on this if that pie was aimed at Sean Penn, Janeane Garofalo or Nancy Pelosi?

Mmmm…how delicious it would be to have an apple pie on me!

Just so you can know where I stand on the Iraq war (since you seem to have a problem with it being mentioned), I personally was against it. UNLESS GWBush is somehow fulfilling prophecy, the U. S. had NO RIGHT to invade Iraq. I don’t care if you liked Saddam or not. It is a violation of international law to just invade a sovereign nation. BTW, the reasons we were fed for this war being necessary were LIES. All of them.Comment by Rafael Daniel

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Oh we all know you don’t support the war in Iraq neither does Ted Kennedy and the rest of his seditious friends.

Shame on me ? No I support my country, I don’t scream to the world that it my country’s fault, just so I can impress the French.

But you said Bush lied and I hear that alot from the Low-life-left,i.e., Fat-Ted and his ilk. Afterall Fat-Ted is the reason the Vietnamese were sold down the river, he should call this attempt Kennedys-quagmire-2 at least he would like to create it, but the president is a bit too smart for old Teddy.

But you say we had no reason to invade Iraq a sovereign nation.

Then going on that premise we had no right to invade Europe we had no business Island hopping to take the war to Japan and then leveling Japan to end the war. You worry about Manifest Destiny, trying reading the ‘Rape of Nanking’.

Afterall Japan only wanted along with Germany, world domination and the destruction of people they deemed unfit to populate the earth.

Sort of like Saddam, seeking domination of the Middle-east not as impressive as Hitler and Hirohito but all the same just as despicable.

But you like the rest of the Peaceniks keep making excuses and wanting to appease these third world despots. Where is the line drawn, thanks to Bill Clinton, China now has the capability to launch Nuclear weapons and Korea now has the abiltiy to make A-bombs thanks to the Appeasing Clinton administration, but I suppose that is OK with you. Afterall the United States should not be allowed to be the only super power, That from Madaline Half-bright.

There is an old saying , when they came for the Jews, I said nothing,, when they came for the Christians .. I said nothing and when they came for me there was nobody left to speak up.

In 3 years the awful United States has liberated 50 Million people help rebuilt another country, helped install democratic forms of government in two countrys now.

If we don’t fight terrorism over there we will surely be fighting it here in our own country.

Mark,

I didn’t see your response to my comment before now.

I do follow the news, but more importantly, I follow real life. I don’t see my liberal friends out throwing pies. I don’t hear my liberal friends condoning pie-throwing. I agree that Ms. Coulter and Mr. Horowitz and Mr. Buchanon had every right to press charges and should have done so.

But there is simple math that you’re forgetting in your stereotype. How is it that in roughly a half-dozen pie-throwing incidents, the character of every single liberal is marred? Are there a half-dozen conservatives committing adultery today? I’d venture to guess the answer is yes. Are there a half-dozen liberals driving drunk today? I’d venture to guess the answer is yes. So what we can seemingly deduce from that is that all conservatives are adulterers and all liberals are drunk drivers. That seems reasonable to me, since stereotypes are acceptable.

As for the America-hating liberal website, I really haven’t a clue which that might be. If someone is making threats against the President, that’s a serious matter that should be dealt with. I’m probably just nuts, though, for not immediately disavowing my beliefs, which I’ve built through education and experience, when a few liberals do something stupid.

Now here’s an interesting little story. I went to the Nationals game last night, and President Bush threw the first pitch. Guess how long I booed him? Want to make an assumption, knowing that I’m a liberal “whiney-punk-***-coward”? If you guessed anything other than 0 seconds, you’re wrong. Do you know why I didn’t boo President Bush? Because I don’t hate America. I don’t hate President Bush. I respect the office. It’s important. I disagree with him on certain fundamental issues, but he’s still the President and that commands respect. My only contention is that I’m not going to sit idly by and accept things I disagree with. I’m going to voice my opinion and work to improve this country.

Liberal equals pie-thrower as much as conservative equals Timothy McVeigh. Not at all. But really, believe whatever you want. Just don’t delude yourself into thinking that the world is so simple as to conform to your stereotype.

It’s about time the Gop did show some backbone because frankly I didn’t think they had any kind of backbone when it came to not only defending themselves but also defending women’s honor.You all talked it but everytime I red about some incident at some college you all would whin like a bunch of mommas babbies as you say the left would do;frankly for a while I wasn’ impressed at all.I like David Horowitz,but he better strap up next time.I am a woman but if some yahoo throws something at me trting to put my eyes out its time to throw down!Lashawn I am a Christian woman but my father did show me how to defend myself when attacked because a man won’t be around all the time.My grandmothers also suggest you beat the crap out folks like this with a high heel shoe if they step to you in the wrong way.To Bad the snotty know so much Ms.Coulter didn’t think about that.Also to refresh some memories here.Remember back in the Early fall when Michelle Malkin was attacked by that tub of lard Chris Matthews,who had to set him straight?yeah,it was Georgia Democratic Senator Zell Miller who made him behave.Michelle Malkin,Laura Ingraham,andyou yourself LaShawn have something that Ms.Coulter doesn,t and that is Class.

Mark, AGAIN, you take a little something OUT of context. I SPECIFICALLY said unless GWBush is somehow fulfilling prophecy. That actually gives him an out, if you can comprehend that. You CAN NOT compare pre-emptively attacking Iraq and RESPONDING to a sneak attack by the Japanese as the same thing and be taken seriously. There is a very serious critical thinking deficit there.

Too late to worry about Manifest Destiny. I raised it only to butress a simple point: America is VIOLENT and sometime unjustly so. There are territorial principalities (mayhaps this is too deep for you) that are charged with making sure it stays that way.

You make foolish assumptions. I am NOT a Peacenik. I spent most of my adult life in the United States Marine Corps–certainly not a Peacenik outfit. But you are good at name-calling, as your post indicates.

The Bush administration has lied about the reasons for invading Iraq. It seemed for a while they were even coming up with a new reason weekly. The fact is, Iraq had no WMD. They said Saddam and Osama were allied–they weren’t/aren’t. Since these things weren’t true, that makes their statements a LIE. An untrue statement is a lie. Had they said, “We made a mistake”, they would be forgiven. But since they say they have no sin, it is ever before them. (Forgive the obscure scriptural reference.)

Appeasing thirld world despots? You show your ugly prejudice by even daring to call the people of the cradle of civilization third world. First, second, third. I won’t even comment any further on that.

Know your history (or at least your politics). China has had the capability to launch nukes for a while, before Bill Clinton. As for North Korea (I served in Korea for a while), that is still an open book. Hopefully the Bush administration will do better.

It isn’t this country’s job to install democracy around the world. If you find that charge in the Constitution, I suppose I’d have to eat a copy of it.

I’d accuse you of disjointed thinking but why should I pile on? I said the country is violent. It is. I wish it wasn’t, but that won’t make it any safer. You ABUSE the notion of free speech by shooting off like a loose cannon. Read what is said. Digest it. THEN comment. I pray you develop some Critical Thinking Skills. Failing that, at least grow up. Maturity trumps immaturity in the grand scheme of things. Peace.

Rafael,

Sorry I missed your response to my comment until now. I didn’t have too much problem with your comment (#29) or that you might mention Iraq. The only problem I had was “The ideology of the pie thrower/paint splasher/war launcher is irrelevant.”

My point is war launcher? Who? Irrelevant ideology? How? Why?

Have you forgotten that Saddam was the original war launcher, first by coup and the subsequent and ever on-going purges, eventually leading to attacking neighbors? If we didn’t stop him in ‘91, Saudi was next in line and eventully the world. Yes, Saddamn had visions of a 1,000 year claiphate and set about building monuments to his greatness to prove it.

Sound like anyone we know from history? Come to think of it, we were weren’t even attacked by that dude before FDR started plan to “launch” a war on him by attacking Africa first. Hmm, I wonder why?

Since you were former military, I’ll spare you the history lesson. Except to say you seem to have a problem with JFK’s promise to defend democracy whereever & whenever necessary.

Imagine that! GWB, RWR & JFK sharing the same ideology why sKerry flip-flops around for the right ideology that’ll move him into the world’s #1 address, regardless of personal conviction. How’s that for relativist ideology!

As for your accusations of “all lies”. That has been examined ad nauseum and found wanting not only in other postings on this blog. I dare say your congressman even discounts your accusations as well as your former chain of command to boot. Someone’s been drinking Kool-aid, question is who?

In conclusion, I want to correct the fatal flaw in your stated ideology. This country is NOT violent! HUMAN NATURE is violent, regardless of ideology, race or creed. Who was it that more or less said “it takes a violent man to stand up to evil while the pusilanimous run and hide”?

Semper Fi!

From pies to international affairs; thread drift is a marvelous phenomenon.

I almost hate to get into this, because there is never an end to it, but here we go. The accusation that Bush lied about WMD is not supportable by facts. A lie must be a deliberate act to deceive, and nothing indicates that this was the case. The whole world thought Saddam had WMD.

“There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein’s regime is a serious danger, that he is a tyrant, and that his pursuit of lethal weapons of mass destruction cannot be tolerated. He must be disarmed.” — Teddy Kennedy, 2002

“I will be voting to give the president of the United States the authority to use force - if necessary - to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security.” — John Kerry, 2002

“What is at stake is how to answer the potential threat Iraq represents with the risk of proliferation of WMD. Baghdad’s regime did use such weapons in the past. Today, a number of evidences may lead to think that, over the past four years, in the absence of international inspectors, this country has continued armament programs.” — Jacques Chirac, 2002

“I am absolutely convinced that there are weapons…I saw evidence back in 1998 when we would see the inspectors being barred from gaining entry into a warehouse for three hours with trucks rolling up and then moving those trucks out.” — William Cohen, 2003

Liars, all?

Greybeard and Andy,

GWBush’s administration has had ample time to say, “Oops, we goofed”. They haven’t. When you PERSIST in deception in the face of facts to the contrary, that is lying.

Thread drift or Six Degrees of Seperation?

The whole world didn’t think Saddam had WMD. I was reasonably sure they didn’t. I didn’t KNOW, but I was reasonably sure. So, since I didn’t think so, your statement dies a cruel death. Ha!

BTW, all the comments you cited were speculative, No one stated a FACT. Kennedy says ‘pursuit’. Kerry left himself an out. Frenchie (Chirac) said “MAY lead (one) to think”. Bill Cohen, who made the strongest statement, STILL offered an opinion.

But, I am done with this. You guys are going to get me in hot water with the Queen. I don’t need that kind of trouble. God bless and keep you both. Peace.

I understand the whole “getting in trouble with the Queen” deal. Been there, done that, continue to do that, will probably always do that.

Next time this happens someone should smear the persons face in it or drop them in a wading pool full of rotten eggs and gooie stuff