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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/04/26/childish/comment-page-3/#comment-40817</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2005 00:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly right ebnelson.
Critics fall upon those trying to deal with a situation they didn&#039;t create.
The fire and brimstone should fall upon whoever has been in charge of this baby. But lawyers find no money there and a parent who created the problem all of a sudden finds a gold mine in a baby they&#039;ve abused.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly right ebnelson.<br />
Critics fall upon those trying to deal with a situation they didn&#8217;t create.<br />
The fire and brimstone should fall upon whoever has been in charge of this baby. But lawyers find no money there and a parent who created the problem all of a sudden finds a gold mine in a baby they&#8217;ve abused.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Roberts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2005 00:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This topic was water cooler talk in the teacher&#039;s lounge in my school today and all the teachers that weighed in come to the same consensus: because of the fear of losing our jobs and fending off lawsuit after lawsuit, teachers and administrators see no other option.

Until you convince us that parents are going to take responsibility and parent, and lawsuits and getting fired are no longer options in these cases, we as teachers will more and more utilize the police.  Not because we want to, but because the current climate dictates to us that we can do little else.

It is a tragedy for this child to be cuffed.  It is also a tragedy that our society has pushed us to the point that teachers and administrators feel so threatened.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This topic was water cooler talk in the teacher&#8217;s lounge in my school today and all the teachers that weighed in come to the same consensus: because of the fear of losing our jobs and fending off lawsuit after lawsuit, teachers and administrators see no other option.</p>
<p>Until you convince us that parents are going to take responsibility and parent, and lawsuits and getting fired are no longer options in these cases, we as teachers will more and more utilize the police.  Not because we want to, but because the current climate dictates to us that we can do little else.</p>
<p>It is a tragedy for this child to be cuffed.  It is also a tragedy that our society has pushed us to the point that teachers and administrators feel so threatened.</p>
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		<title>By: ebnelson</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/04/26/childish/comment-page-2/#comment-40800</link>
		<dc:creator>ebnelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This topic is fascinating. The police, if they did not use cuffs on her, would have gotten charged with assaulting the little brat. Mom is getting paid to peddle her propaganda about this on TV. The teachers and administrators have torn up offices and classrooms, and their kids are in turmoil. The little girl is still a spoiled brat with out of control rages. My wife had a boy in her kindergarten class last year whose father is in prison and whose mother is living openly with &#039;boy friends&#039;. The kid would expose himself to both girls and boys, fondle himself while doing so, invite others to fondle him as well, hit, bite and scratch other kids, and it took my wife most of the year to get this kid away from her class. His mother would threaten my wife and the school if they even took him out of class to make him calm down. It was clear to counselors that the boy was being severely abused at home, probably by the boyfriends.
This girl should be tossed out of school. She is a danger to others and herself. Her mother investigated for child abuse. Teacehrs in a public setting are in a lose-lose situation between pc administrators and lawyers sharking around looking to steal millions via trumped up charges. If we had to do it again, I think we would definitely look to home schooling. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This topic is fascinating. The police, if they did not use cuffs on her, would have gotten charged with assaulting the little brat. Mom is getting paid to peddle her propaganda about this on TV. The teachers and administrators have torn up offices and classrooms, and their kids are in turmoil. The little girl is still a spoiled brat with out of control rages. My wife had a boy in her kindergarten class last year whose father is in prison and whose mother is living openly with &#8216;boy friends&#8217;. The kid would expose himself to both girls and boys, fondle himself while doing so, invite others to fondle him as well, hit, bite and scratch other kids, and it took my wife most of the year to get this kid away from her class. His mother would threaten my wife and the school if they even took him out of class to make him calm down. It was clear to counselors that the boy was being severely abused at home, probably by the boyfriends.<br />
This girl should be tossed out of school. She is a danger to others and herself. Her mother investigated for child abuse. Teacehrs in a public setting are in a lose-lose situation between pc administrators and lawyers sharking around looking to steal millions via trumped up charges. If we had to do it again, I think we would definitely look to home schooling.</p>
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		<title>By: Peaktalk</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/04/26/childish/comment-page-2/#comment-40798</link>
		<dc:creator>Peaktalk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;BUSH AND FECA&lt;/strong&gt;

Bush yesterday signed the Family Entertainment and Copyright Act (&quot;FECA&quot;) into law. On the face of it purports to protect copyright, which is why Hollywood was keen to have it, but at the same time it insulates companies that develop...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>BUSH AND FECA</strong></p>
<p>Bush yesterday signed the Family Entertainment and Copyright Act (&#8220;FECA&#8221;) into law. On the face of it purports to protect copyright, which is why Hollywood was keen to have it, but at the same time it insulates companies that develop&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/04/26/childish/comment-page-2/#comment-40779</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2005 18:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What if the police hadn&#039;t handcuffed this little girl. What if they had just held her by the arm? And then what if she jerked her arm away and got a bruise? What to you think the mother would have done seeing a bruise on her 5 year old&#039;s arm? Scream police brutality, maybe? I think the police were smart in the way this was handled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if the police hadn&#8217;t handcuffed this little girl. What if they had just held her by the arm? And then what if she jerked her arm away and got a bruise? What to you think the mother would have done seeing a bruise on her 5 year old&#8217;s arm? Scream police brutality, maybe? I think the police were smart in the way this was handled.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/04/26/childish/comment-page-2/#comment-40741</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2005 15:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lisa, another reason for homeschooling is that parents want to protect their kids from corrosive educrap tossed around by elites and to prevent their kids from being another experiment gone awry statistic.  If that&#039;s arrogant, whatever.

Another factor, leastways in my sister&#039;s case for homeschooling is that they want her son on Ritalin.  Yeah, right!!!.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lisa, another reason for homeschooling is that parents want to protect their kids from corrosive educrap tossed around by elites and to prevent their kids from being another experiment gone awry statistic.  If that&#8217;s arrogant, whatever.</p>
<p>Another factor, leastways in my sister&#8217;s case for homeschooling is that they want her son on Ritalin.  Yeah, right!!!.</p>
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		<title>By: Victoria</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/04/26/childish/comment-page-2/#comment-40733</link>
		<dc:creator>Victoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2005 15:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lisa said &quot;But I do agree that this Moral relatvism we see in our society should be thrown back in the face of the left..&quot; and &quot;They do need to bring back the â€œgood ole daysâ€ because we have seen what these educrats and other have done to genreations of kids making them soft&quot;

So what are you going to do about those things? Continue to sacrifice your children to a system that you do not agree with and that is making your children turn out in a way that goes against your values and opinions?  Or are you going to take action?

Lisa also said &quot;I experinced bullying and no it isnâ€™t pleasant&quot; 

Would you really choose for your child to &quot;learn&quot; through the same cruel experiences that you went through if you knew that there were a better way? I do not how many homeschooled children you know but these kids are a pretty tough bunch and don&#039;t take mess from anyone.  They know who they are, what they want and they are not afraid to be different.

&quot;Also what makes you believe homeschooling is any better&quot;

Statistics, baby, statistics.

&quot;were never homeschooled and you turned out okay&quot;

We will never know if I could have turned out better.  Heck, maybe if I were homeschooled I could have become the first black woman president of the United States!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lisa said &#8220;But I do agree that this Moral relatvism we see in our society should be thrown back in the face of the left..&#8221; and &#8220;They do need to bring back the â€œgood ole daysâ€ because we have seen what these educrats and other have done to genreations of kids making them soft&#8221;</p>
<p>So what are you going to do about those things? Continue to sacrifice your children to a system that you do not agree with and that is making your children turn out in a way that goes against your values and opinions?  Or are you going to take action?</p>
<p>Lisa also said &#8220;I experinced bullying and no it isnâ€™t pleasant&#8221; </p>
<p>Would you really choose for your child to &#8220;learn&#8221; through the same cruel experiences that you went through if you knew that there were a better way? I do not how many homeschooled children you know but these kids are a pretty tough bunch and don&#8217;t take mess from anyone.  They know who they are, what they want and they are not afraid to be different.</p>
<p>&#8220;Also what makes you believe homeschooling is any better&#8221;</p>
<p>Statistics, baby, statistics.</p>
<p>&#8220;were never homeschooled and you turned out okay&#8221;</p>
<p>We will never know if I could have turned out better.  Heck, maybe if I were homeschooled I could have become the first black woman president of the United States!</p>
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		<title>By: DarkStar</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/04/26/childish/comment-page-2/#comment-40729</link>
		<dc:creator>DarkStar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2005 15:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Suzie, that&#039;s a good way to do it. But it was not a &quot;911&quot; type of call.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suzie, that&#8217;s a good way to do it. But it was not a &#8220;911&#8243; type of call.</p>
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		<title>By: Suzie Brown</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/04/26/childish/comment-page-2/#comment-40713</link>
		<dc:creator>Suzie Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, maybe you think me stupid, but, I have called the police on my own child, a couple of times.

I divorced my husband, because of his violence against me, and it was escalating to the point, where I knew, it would eventually lead to my death.

My son, was only three, when we divorced, but I guess he saw enough.

One day, when he was three, I was trying to dress him to go somewhere, he hauled off and punched me squarely in the face.  I grabbed his hand, and explained to him, &quot;You do not hit your mommy.&quot;  He said, &quot;Daddy, does.&quot;

Needless, to say, it was hard teaching him different, because I refused to hit him.

Well, when he was eight, I did call the police, and asked them, if they had an officer, who was not busy, if he could stop by and explain to my son, that hitting people was against the law.

A police officer, came by and explained to my son, it was against the law.

I know this sounds extreme, but I really did not know what else to do.  I could not get it through, my young son&#039;s head, that it was wrong to hit a woman.

Well, he is an upstanding, young adult now, but until the age of twelve, it was extremely difficult reversing, the damage, of what he saw in the first three years of his life.

The police, can be used properly with a child, in a non threatening manner.

Suzie, in Ohio</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, maybe you think me stupid, but, I have called the police on my own child, a couple of times.</p>
<p>I divorced my husband, because of his violence against me, and it was escalating to the point, where I knew, it would eventually lead to my death.</p>
<p>My son, was only three, when we divorced, but I guess he saw enough.</p>
<p>One day, when he was three, I was trying to dress him to go somewhere, he hauled off and punched me squarely in the face.  I grabbed his hand, and explained to him, &#8220;You do not hit your mommy.&#8221;  He said, &#8220;Daddy, does.&#8221;</p>
<p>Needless, to say, it was hard teaching him different, because I refused to hit him.</p>
<p>Well, when he was eight, I did call the police, and asked them, if they had an officer, who was not busy, if he could stop by and explain to my son, that hitting people was against the law.</p>
<p>A police officer, came by and explained to my son, it was against the law.</p>
<p>I know this sounds extreme, but I really did not know what else to do.  I could not get it through, my young son&#8217;s head, that it was wrong to hit a woman.</p>
<p>Well, he is an upstanding, young adult now, but until the age of twelve, it was extremely difficult reversing, the damage, of what he saw in the first three years of his life.</p>
<p>The police, can be used properly with a child, in a non threatening manner.</p>
<p>Suzie, in Ohio</p>
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		<title>By: Joan of Argghh!</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/04/26/childish/comment-page-2/#comment-40704</link>
		<dc:creator>Joan of Argghh!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can imagine another scenario where the mother still hasn&#039;t arrived, the child starts up again, another counselor is called in, the child continues her acting out and destructive behavior.
I can imagine someone just holding her arm tightly so that she cannot work her will. I can imagine the lawsuit stemming from the inevitable bruising that would come from the child trying to break away from any physical hand restraining her. Handcuffs were the kindest thing all &#039;round. 

And she was a repeat offender with the police, so she started wailing because she finally knew that her will had been vanquished. Not a bad lesson for any out-of-control 5 year-old of any race to learn: Bad behavior brings unpleasant reponses. To shield a child from the negative consequences of their negative behavior is the worst sort of child abuse. 

Her mother&#039;s response to the whole affair will determine whether or not the child suffers any long-term emotional trauma or hard feelings toward authority. Indeed, the child has obviously never found an authority to respect until the handcuffs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can imagine another scenario where the mother still hasn&#8217;t arrived, the child starts up again, another counselor is called in, the child continues her acting out and destructive behavior.<br />
I can imagine someone just holding her arm tightly so that she cannot work her will. I can imagine the lawsuit stemming from the inevitable bruising that would come from the child trying to break away from any physical hand restraining her. Handcuffs were the kindest thing all &#8217;round. </p>
<p>And she was a repeat offender with the police, so she started wailing because she finally knew that her will had been vanquished. Not a bad lesson for any out-of-control 5 year-old of any race to learn: Bad behavior brings unpleasant reponses. To shield a child from the negative consequences of their negative behavior is the worst sort of child abuse. </p>
<p>Her mother&#8217;s response to the whole affair will determine whether or not the child suffers any long-term emotional trauma or hard feelings toward authority. Indeed, the child has obviously never found an authority to respect until the handcuffs.</p>
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		<title>By: Katie B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katie B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why does it always turn into a white/ black thing? Not trying to be mean, just curious. Personally, I don&#039;t care if someone&#039;s black, white, or purple. This kind of behaviour isn&#039;t acceptable for anyone. 

If the arresting officer had been black, would he have been betraying his race by arresting the little girl? Or would we have not heard anything about it? No police officer should have been called in the first place but they all have a job to do. We shouldn&#039;t make it harder on him by pinning &quot;racist&quot; on him, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why does it always turn into a white/ black thing? Not trying to be mean, just curious. Personally, I don&#8217;t care if someone&#8217;s black, white, or purple. This kind of behaviour isn&#8217;t acceptable for anyone. </p>
<p>If the arresting officer had been black, would he have been betraying his race by arresting the little girl? Or would we have not heard anything about it? No police officer should have been called in the first place but they all have a job to do. We shouldn&#8217;t make it harder on him by pinning &#8220;racist&#8221; on him, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Dell Gines</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/04/26/childish/comment-page-2/#comment-40692</link>
		<dc:creator>Dell Gines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Lisa Gillim - I think homeschool parents think they and their children are better than everybody elses kids&quot;

I know I do...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Lisa Gillim &#8211; I think homeschool parents think they and their children are better than everybody elses kids&#8221;</p>
<p>I know I do&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mcconnell</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/04/26/childish/comment-page-2/#comment-40533</link>
		<dc:creator>mcconnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2005 05:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Certainly, a special need kid now needs extra special need since she is now traumatized by the whole experience. 

Idiots.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Certainly, a special need kid now needs extra special need since she is now traumatized by the whole experience. </p>
<p>Idiots.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Gillim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa Gillim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2005 04:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Victoria , that kid was just behaving badly and really it is the mothers fault. this what bill Cosby was critizing our people about last year.Also what makes you believe homeschooling is any better.I bet most of the people posted here were never homeschooled and you turned out okay.How do you know you children may not turn to a life of crime, or drugs?I think homeschool parents think they and their children are better than everybody elses kids.That is true arrogance if I&#039;ve ever seen it.But I do agree that this Moral relatvism we see in our society should be thrown back in the face of the left, and point out to them this is the monster they helped to create.I know my parents would&#039;ve beat the crap put me for behaving the way this kid did.They do need to bring back the &quot;good ole days&quot; because we have seen what these educrats and other have done to genreations of kids making them soft.T, the man who also says he homeschools his kids to keep them from getting bullied,sir, you can&#039;t protect kids from everything,I know I experinced bullying and no it isn&#039;t pleasant but if my parents had a had your fuzzy and Utopian thinking I would&#039;ve been a simpleton,not to be able handle anything life throws at me and role with punches in life. In life you have to fight, how are your kids gonna be able to handle a toughmineded boss on a job?They won&#039;t! because you have made them so ultasensitive to things,they&#039;ll be soft as charmin bath tissue. That is what is precisely wrong with our society now, they can&#039;t handle any harship or weather in any storm as previous generations did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Victoria , that kid was just behaving badly and really it is the mothers fault. this what bill Cosby was critizing our people about last year.Also what makes you believe homeschooling is any better.I bet most of the people posted here were never homeschooled and you turned out okay.How do you know you children may not turn to a life of crime, or drugs?I think homeschool parents think they and their children are better than everybody elses kids.That is true arrogance if I&#8217;ve ever seen it.But I do agree that this Moral relatvism we see in our society should be thrown back in the face of the left, and point out to them this is the monster they helped to create.I know my parents would&#8217;ve beat the crap put me for behaving the way this kid did.They do need to bring back the &#8220;good ole days&#8221; because we have seen what these educrats and other have done to genreations of kids making them soft.T, the man who also says he homeschools his kids to keep them from getting bullied,sir, you can&#8217;t protect kids from everything,I know I experinced bullying and no it isn&#8217;t pleasant but if my parents had a had your fuzzy and Utopian thinking I would&#8217;ve been a simpleton,not to be able handle anything life throws at me and role with punches in life. In life you have to fight, how are your kids gonna be able to handle a toughmineded boss on a job?They won&#8217;t! because you have made them so ultasensitive to things,they&#8217;ll be soft as charmin bath tissue. That is what is precisely wrong with our society now, they can&#8217;t handle any harship or weather in any storm as previous generations did.</p>
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		<title>By: Victoria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Victoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2005 01:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LaShawn,

First, an &quot;Amen&quot; to your statement about homeschooling.  It is truly the best way to fight the system and win for our kids.

I hate to say it, but as a homeschool advocate I see the bright side of every crazy incident like a child being handcuffed in school because of out-of-control behavior.  

I hope that this and similar news stories will bring more parents to their senses and help them realize that to keep their children in public school is sheer lunacy.  This is particularly true for black parents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LaShawn,</p>
<p>First, an &#8220;Amen&#8221; to your statement about homeschooling.  It is truly the best way to fight the system and win for our kids.</p>
<p>I hate to say it, but as a homeschool advocate I see the bright side of every crazy incident like a child being handcuffed in school because of out-of-control behavior.  </p>
<p>I hope that this and similar news stories will bring more parents to their senses and help them realize that to keep their children in public school is sheer lunacy.  This is particularly true for black parents.</p>
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