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		<title>By: firebird</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/04/26/hate/comment-page-1/#comment-40699</link>
		<dc:creator>firebird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They should all be sent to prison for 30 years, no excuses, no interference by jesse jackson no blathering about racists. It&#039;s time to make a example out of these young thugs, it&#039;s time for them to face the music and face harsh punishment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They should all be sent to prison for 30 years, no excuses, no interference by jesse jackson no blathering about racists. It&#8217;s time to make a example out of these young thugs, it&#8217;s time for them to face the music and face harsh punishment.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Roberts</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/04/26/hate/comment-page-1/#comment-40515</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2005 23:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great point Andy.  I forgot to attach the scriptural reference to my earlier post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great point Andy.  I forgot to attach the scriptural reference to my earlier post.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/04/26/hate/comment-page-1/#comment-40483</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2005 18:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Laser, I understand the &quot;hate the sin, love the sinner&quot;.  I&#039;m saying that all sin is motivated by hate.  That&#039;s not the same as hating that which seeks to destroy the one you love, nor that hate in of itself is a sin.  I didn&#039;t think to clarify that earlier.  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laser, I understand the &#8220;hate the sin, love the sinner&#8221;.  I&#8217;m saying that all sin is motivated by hate.  That&#8217;s not the same as hating that which seeks to destroy the one you love, nor that hate in of itself is a sin.  I didn&#8217;t think to clarify that earlier.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: laserlawyer</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/04/26/hate/comment-page-1/#comment-40482</link>
		<dc:creator>laserlawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2005 17:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy -- One has to be careful about treating &quot;hate&quot; as if it were an absolute wrong that necessarily produces sin.  The scriptures plainly state that hate is something God experiences (e.g., &quot;I hate divorce&quot;).  One could also argue that if you truly love someone, you will necessarily hate that which seeks to destroy the one you love.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy &#8212; One has to be careful about treating &#8220;hate&#8221; as if it were an absolute wrong that necessarily produces sin.  The scriptures plainly state that hate is something God experiences (e.g., &#8220;I hate divorce&#8221;).  One could also argue that if you truly love someone, you will necessarily hate that which seeks to destroy the one you love.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/04/26/hate/comment-page-1/#comment-40478</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2005 17:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dell, you need to spend more time with your Bible.  All SIN is born out of hate for God &amp; His Truths.  It is moral relativism to state otherwise.

&quot;Hate*&quot; is written 179 times in the KJV.  If you review all of those verses, you will see that God defines all wrongs as being born of hate, including greed, lust &amp; power.  

Christians should be careful to avoid defaulting to what Man&#039;s Law says.  Remember Acts 5:29.  Likewise, we as Christians have the moral imperative to ensure that our legal system gets back to the core of our human rights as laid out in the founding document that I cited you in the other thread on positive ID for would be voters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dell, you need to spend more time with your Bible.  All SIN is born out of hate for God &amp; His Truths.  It is moral relativism to state otherwise.</p>
<p>&#8220;Hate*&#8221; is written 179 times in the KJV.  If you review all of those verses, you will see that God defines all wrongs as being born of hate, including greed, lust &amp; power.  </p>
<p>Christians should be careful to avoid defaulting to what Man&#8217;s Law says.  Remember Acts 5:29.  Likewise, we as Christians have the moral imperative to ensure that our legal system gets back to the core of our human rights as laid out in the founding document that I cited you in the other thread on positive ID for would be voters.</p>
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		<title>By: Dell Gines</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/04/26/hate/comment-page-1/#comment-40429</link>
		<dc:creator>Dell Gines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2005 13:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you people not read what the hate crime law is? You are defining hate according to your personal perspective on the word and not according to the way it is legally defined in the context of the laws on the books...sheesh...

To say every crime is born out of hate is unintelligent. Some crime is born out of greed, other crime is born out of a qwest for power, other crime is born out of lust.  

So then the question becomes, if hate crime is defined as attacking someone simply BECAUSE of their race, then this is totally different then the way the majority of you are attempting to define it. 

And I agree, Hate crime legislation is stupid.  If someone attacks me, I want equal justice whether they did it because they hated me due to my blackness or for some other reason. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you people not read what the hate crime law is? You are defining hate according to your personal perspective on the word and not according to the way it is legally defined in the context of the laws on the books&#8230;sheesh&#8230;</p>
<p>To say every crime is born out of hate is unintelligent. Some crime is born out of greed, other crime is born out of a qwest for power, other crime is born out of lust.  </p>
<p>So then the question becomes, if hate crime is defined as attacking someone simply BECAUSE of their race, then this is totally different then the way the majority of you are attempting to define it. </p>
<p>And I agree, Hate crime legislation is stupid.  If someone attacks me, I want equal justice whether they did it because they hated me due to my blackness or for some other reason.</p>
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		<title>By: mikem</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2005 03:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am pleased with this outcome. Usually the result of a hate crime hoax is a tap on the wrist and a sympathetic hug for the hoaxer. At least this idiot is being charged with a hate crime, despite the school president&#039;s failure to condemn her. 
We&#039;re moving in the right direction, personal responsibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am pleased with this outcome. Usually the result of a hate crime hoax is a tap on the wrist and a sympathetic hug for the hoaxer. At least this idiot is being charged with a hate crime, despite the school president&#8217;s failure to condemn her.<br />
We&#8217;re moving in the right direction, personal responsibility.</p>
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		<title>By: Sensible Mom</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/04/26/hate/comment-page-1/#comment-40382</link>
		<dc:creator>Sensible Mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2005 02:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t agree with hate crime laws especially when they are not enforced fairly as this story demonstrated early on.  

Hate is hate whether directed at someone because of race or not.  And what makes laws like this illogical is that it ignores the fact that hate crimes exist within races, as I leanred the hard way in high school.  In my class of about 600, there were three black young men, one of which played on the high school basketball team.  When our school played a team with the reverse demographic, the black students on the opposing team, without fail, would verbally and physically taunt the black athlete on our team.  They would call him white boy and ridicule him during and after games.  What was so interesting is that, to me and my classmates, he always fit in.  He was one of us and race never was an issue.  He was just another guy.  The only people to attack him about his race were people of his own race. 

So do cases like that ever get any press?  No.  Do cases like the one La Shawn linked to get press?  Not until someone screams about the hypocrisy.  The only time we hear anything is when &quot;evil and intolerant&quot; white people do something mean and stupid.  But I bet you the situation I witnessed in high school happens all the time.  People who attack others should be punished with equal ferocity regardless of the motive.  After all, the damage is the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t agree with hate crime laws especially when they are not enforced fairly as this story demonstrated early on.  </p>
<p>Hate is hate whether directed at someone because of race or not.  And what makes laws like this illogical is that it ignores the fact that hate crimes exist within races, as I leanred the hard way in high school.  In my class of about 600, there were three black young men, one of which played on the high school basketball team.  When our school played a team with the reverse demographic, the black students on the opposing team, without fail, would verbally and physically taunt the black athlete on our team.  They would call him white boy and ridicule him during and after games.  What was so interesting is that, to me and my classmates, he always fit in.  He was one of us and race never was an issue.  He was just another guy.  The only people to attack him about his race were people of his own race. </p>
<p>So do cases like that ever get any press?  No.  Do cases like the one La Shawn linked to get press?  Not until someone screams about the hypocrisy.  The only time we hear anything is when &#8220;evil and intolerant&#8221; white people do something mean and stupid.  But I bet you the situation I witnessed in high school happens all the time.  People who attack others should be punished with equal ferocity regardless of the motive.  After all, the damage is the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/04/26/hate/comment-page-1/#comment-40375</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2005 02:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Improbulus, that&#039;s because for many Africans, getting here is fulfilling a great personal dream thru education, responsibility &amp; merit.  Plus they weren&#039;t indoctrinated on the idea that the Man is trying to put them down.

The cultural problem is black Americans have a readymade scapegoat in racism, while Africans and Caribbean natives have none for personal shortcomings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Improbulus, that&#8217;s because for many Africans, getting here is fulfilling a great personal dream thru education, responsibility &amp; merit.  Plus they weren&#8217;t indoctrinated on the idea that the Man is trying to put them down.</p>
<p>The cultural problem is black Americans have a readymade scapegoat in racism, while Africans and Caribbean natives have none for personal shortcomings.</p>
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		<title>By: Improbulus Maximus</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/04/26/hate/comment-page-1/#comment-40265</link>
		<dc:creator>Improbulus Maximus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2005 00:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone mentioned Thomas Sowell a few posts ago, and I wanted to give some thoughts on him. I am currently reading Conquests and Cultures, and his ability to lay out the facts objectively and in perfect context is astounding. He has spent more time in research than probably any ten other authors I&#039;ve read, and only the most indoctrinated could take issue with any point he makes.
I saw him on CSPAN talking about his &quot;black redneck&quot; theory, and it made perfect sense as well. I should know, having grown up around both black and white rednecks myself. His point is that destructive, anti-social behavior must not be excused in anyone because of the color of their skin or their cultural origins.
One thing which I don&#039;t know if he&#039;s ever brought up but that I wish he would, is the difference between blacks in America and native Africans. I have known quite a few Africans, mostly in the Army, and they were culturally more like whites than blacks. I never could figure that out until Dr. Sowell came along. He is one of the smartest people in America today, everyone should lend an ear when he speaks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone mentioned Thomas Sowell a few posts ago, and I wanted to give some thoughts on him. I am currently reading Conquests and Cultures, and his ability to lay out the facts objectively and in perfect context is astounding. He has spent more time in research than probably any ten other authors I&#8217;ve read, and only the most indoctrinated could take issue with any point he makes.<br />
I saw him on CSPAN talking about his &#8220;black redneck&#8221; theory, and it made perfect sense as well. I should know, having grown up around both black and white rednecks myself. His point is that destructive, anti-social behavior must not be excused in anyone because of the color of their skin or their cultural origins.<br />
One thing which I don&#8217;t know if he&#8217;s ever brought up but that I wish he would, is the difference between blacks in America and native Africans. I have known quite a few Africans, mostly in the Army, and they were culturally more like whites than blacks. I never could figure that out until Dr. Sowell came along. He is one of the smartest people in America today, everyone should lend an ear when he speaks.</p>
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		<title>By: ratso ferrari</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/04/26/hate/comment-page-1/#comment-40260</link>
		<dc:creator>ratso ferrari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2005 23:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like how Hillary, Jesse, and Al Sharpton came running to defend those &quot;white crackers&quot;. Oh you now tell me they had nothing to say??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like how Hillary, Jesse, and Al Sharpton came running to defend those &#8220;white crackers&#8221;. Oh you now tell me they had nothing to say??</p>
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		<title>By: Robert from brightMystery</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/04/26/hate/comment-page-1/#comment-40230</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert from brightMystery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2005 21:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a note about my trackback above -- I changed the title of my article to &quot;Fake hate email at a Christian college&quot; because whereas the email was a hoax, the hate CRIME is very real. 

Honestly, how hard could it have been to just tell her parents she didn&#039;t want to go to college any more? I can&#039;t imagine what I&#039;d think if my daughter (who is Asian, although I am white) pulled the same kind of stunt. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a note about my trackback above &#8212; I changed the title of my article to &#8220;Fake hate email at a Christian college&#8221; because whereas the email was a hoax, the hate CRIME is very real. </p>
<p>Honestly, how hard could it have been to just tell her parents she didn&#8217;t want to go to college any more? I can&#8217;t imagine what I&#8217;d think if my daughter (who is Asian, although I am white) pulled the same kind of stunt.</p>
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		<title>By: brightMystery</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/04/26/hate/comment-page-1/#comment-40225</link>
		<dc:creator>brightMystery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2005 20:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Fake hate crime&lt;/strong&gt;

Minority students Trinity International University -- a Christian college affiliated with the Evangelical Free Church -- were evacuated overnight from campus last week after several students received threatening racist hate mail. Now it turns out that ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Fake hate crime</strong></p>
<p>Minority students Trinity International University &#8212; a Christian college affiliated with the Evangelical Free Church &#8212; were evacuated overnight from campus last week after several students received threatening racist hate mail. Now it turns out that &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: laserlawyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>laserlawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2005 20:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sadly, there are too few stories of those who started down the path of violent criminal conduct and then changed the direction of their lives.  Generally speaking, our character shapes our conduct, and our conduct shapes our character.   When our character degrades, our conduct usually follows; and when our conduct degrades, our character usually follows.

Of course -- and thankfully! -- there are exceptions, and many of those exceptions involve people becoming followers of Christ, born from above.  But when someone receives Christ and believes on His name, and receives the power/right to become a child of God, that is called a miracle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly, there are too few stories of those who started down the path of violent criminal conduct and then changed the direction of their lives.  Generally speaking, our character shapes our conduct, and our conduct shapes our character.   When our character degrades, our conduct usually follows; and when our conduct degrades, our character usually follows.</p>
<p>Of course &#8212; and thankfully! &#8212; there are exceptions, and many of those exceptions involve people becoming followers of Christ, born from above.  But when someone receives Christ and believes on His name, and receives the power/right to become a child of God, that is called a miracle.</p>
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		<title>By: E u p h o r i c  R e a l i t y</title>
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		<dc:creator>E u p h o r i c  R e a l i t y</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2005 19:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>La Shawn Barber shows again that she has better grip on reality than just about anyone else I  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>La Shawn Barber shows again that she has better grip on reality than just about anyone else I  [...]</p>
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