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		<title>By: Hard Starboard</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/05/13/sound/comment-page-1/#comment-43820</link>
		<dc:creator>Hard Starboard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2005 07:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Pi**ing on the Ashes&lt;/strong&gt;

Awww, look at this - Newsweek has actually retracted their &quot;Amerikan fascists flushing Korans down toilets trigger floods across length and breadth of Cuba, countless Muslim prisoners drown&quot; story:


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<p>Awww, look at this &#8211; Newsweek has actually retracted their &#8220;Amerikan fascists flushing Korans down toilets trigger floods across length and breadth of Cuba, countless Muslim prisoners drown&#8221; story:</p>
<p>Newsweek magazine, under fire for publishing a &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: La Shawn</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/05/13/sound/comment-page-1/#comment-43532</link>
		<dc:creator>La Shawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 May 2005 18:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cobra - The cool thing about hosting your own blog is that the blogger gets to have the last word. What we have here is your fundamental lack of interest in my archives. I understand, though. Who has the time or inclination to read all of that? But this stuff your talking about is well covered territory on this blog. Itâ€™s very annoying that you, a fairly new commenter, make assumptions about what I might find vomit-inducing, when a simple review of my archives, particularly the â€œLiberalsâ€ and â€œRace Preferencesâ€ categories, will clue you in on quite a few of my controversial opinions. But if you donâ€™t want to make the effort, why should I?

For instance, Iâ€™ve written about the faulty reasoning and bogus psychological tests that the Court relied on in &lt;em&gt;Brown v. Board of Education&lt;/em&gt;. If you check â€œMy Writings,â€ youâ€™ll find two columns that discuss the case. In one, I make the point that people self-segregate ALL the time. It matters NOT whether white people like me or want to hang out with me or think Iâ€™m one of the inferior dregs of society. If they choose to segregate themselves from me SOCIALLY, thatâ€™s their right, and vice versa. I agree with Connerlyâ€™s statement wholeheartedly, and if you check your list of friends, Iâ€™m certain itâ€™ll be obvious that you do some self-segregating of your own. The GOVERNMENT segregating citizens based on race is a whole other matter. But they do so all the time with set-asides and separate tracks for college admissions. Complain about THAT kind of segregation, and you get called a racist.

About the IQ thing, the fact is that blacks, on average, test one standard deviation (15 points) below whites. On average, Asians test higher than whites. Now you can argue about the validity or usefulness of the tests, but you canâ€™t blame someone for reporting FACTS. Cobra, whether you acknowledge it or not, there IS a skills gap between blacks and whites, particular in schools, but no one likes to talk about it. The white people who have the courage to do it are called â€œconservative racists.â€ What the so-called gap reveals about adult bloggers is beyond the scope of my blog and of little interest to me. Popularity can be relative. One man&#039;s success is another man&#039;s failure.

I have also quoted CoCC on this blog and defended it against charges of racism in the context of Hispanic groups like La Raza and that dinosaur we all know and mock, the NAACP. Check it out: http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/11/29/topcop/

I&#039;m glad you support my success in the blogosphere. It&#039;s more than I can say for most black liberals. But you miss the irony of your own statement about people not believing it&#039;s possible. What black people need to do is defy the odds and negative stereotypes and CREATE something instead of EXPECTING something in this country. I&#039;ve worked HARD to build up my readership, blogging day in and day out. NOBODY --- black or white --- gets the credit for that but ME. We&#039;ve got to dump the &quot;you owe me&quot; mentality, Cobra, or another generation will emerge with their hands out, feeling entitled to something because they&#039;re black. I wan&#039;t NO part of that.

To expect anything less of blacks is REAL racism. It makes whatever &quot;racist&quot; study or article you cite pale in comparison.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cobra &#8211; The cool thing about hosting your own blog is that the blogger gets to have the last word. What we have here is your fundamental lack of interest in my archives. I understand, though. Who has the time or inclination to read all of that? But this stuff your talking about is well covered territory on this blog. Itâ€™s very annoying that you, a fairly new commenter, make assumptions about what I might find vomit-inducing, when a simple review of my archives, particularly the â€œLiberalsâ€ and â€œRace Preferencesâ€ categories, will clue you in on quite a few of my controversial opinions. But if you donâ€™t want to make the effort, why should I?</p>
<p>For instance, Iâ€™ve written about the faulty reasoning and bogus psychological tests that the Court relied on in <em>Brown v. Board of Education</em>. If you check â€œMy Writings,â€ youâ€™ll find two columns that discuss the case. In one, I make the point that people self-segregate ALL the time. It matters NOT whether white people like me or want to hang out with me or think Iâ€™m one of the inferior dregs of society. If they choose to segregate themselves from me SOCIALLY, thatâ€™s their right, and vice versa. I agree with Connerlyâ€™s statement wholeheartedly, and if you check your list of friends, Iâ€™m certain itâ€™ll be obvious that you do some self-segregating of your own. The GOVERNMENT segregating citizens based on race is a whole other matter. But they do so all the time with set-asides and separate tracks for college admissions. Complain about THAT kind of segregation, and you get called a racist.</p>
<p>About the IQ thing, the fact is that blacks, on average, test one standard deviation (15 points) below whites. On average, Asians test higher than whites. Now you can argue about the validity or usefulness of the tests, but you canâ€™t blame someone for reporting FACTS. Cobra, whether you acknowledge it or not, there IS a skills gap between blacks and whites, particular in schools, but no one likes to talk about it. The white people who have the courage to do it are called â€œconservative racists.â€ What the so-called gap reveals about adult bloggers is beyond the scope of my blog and of little interest to me. Popularity can be relative. One man&#8217;s success is another man&#8217;s failure.</p>
<p>I have also quoted CoCC on this blog and defended it against charges of racism in the context of Hispanic groups like La Raza and that dinosaur we all know and mock, the NAACP. Check it out: <a href="http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/11/29/topcop/" rel="nofollow">http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/11/29/topcop/</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad you support my success in the blogosphere. It&#8217;s more than I can say for most black liberals. But you miss the irony of your own statement about people not believing it&#8217;s possible. What black people need to do is defy the odds and negative stereotypes and CREATE something instead of EXPECTING something in this country. I&#8217;ve worked HARD to build up my readership, blogging day in and day out. NOBODY &#8212; black or white &#8212; gets the credit for that but ME. We&#8217;ve got to dump the &#8220;you owe me&#8221; mentality, Cobra, or another generation will emerge with their hands out, feeling entitled to something because they&#8217;re black. I wan&#8217;t NO part of that.</p>
<p>To expect anything less of blacks is REAL racism. It makes whatever &#8220;racist&#8221; study or article you cite pale in comparison.</p>
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		<title>By: Walter E. Wallis</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/05/13/sound/comment-page-1/#comment-43531</link>
		<dc:creator>Walter E. Wallis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 May 2005 18:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>25% sounds about right. Now if we can get 25% to apply for apprenticeships in the trades and the last 50% to finish high school and go to work and show up on time, the blacks will do just fine. 
Amazing that enemies of Ward Connerly and the KKK want the same for blacks; unique different treatment based on skin color. There are brilliant blacks like Ward Connerly and Mrs. Barber and really stupid whites like Harry Reid and Sandy Berger, so evaluating by race makes little sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>25% sounds about right. Now if we can get 25% to apply for apprenticeships in the trades and the last 50% to finish high school and go to work and show up on time, the blacks will do just fine.<br />
Amazing that enemies of Ward Connerly and the KKK want the same for blacks; unique different treatment based on skin color. There are brilliant blacks like Ward Connerly and Mrs. Barber and really stupid whites like Harry Reid and Sandy Berger, so evaluating by race makes little sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Cobra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cobra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 May 2005 18:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;&gt;&quot;When asked what he thought about Trent Lott&#039;s comments about segregation in 2002, Connerly told CNN: &quot;Supporting segregation need not be racist. One can believe in segregation and believe in equality of the races.&quot; 
http://gadflyer.com/articles/?ArticleID=173 

Lashawn writes:

&quot;Any policy that even HINTS that I belong in a special category, separate from competition with whites because Iâ€™m black, is vomit-inducing. Implicit is such nonsense is my â€œinferiority.â€ &quot;

 Now, I hope you&#039;re sitting down right now...because I&#039;m going to AGREE WITH YOUR STATEMENT...to a degree. Given a choice between YOUR statement above, and Ward Connerly&#039;s, I&#039;d take yours in a heartbeat.
 
Yes, I would certainly take issue with a group or individual that would call both you and I &quot;inferior&quot; because we&#039;re African American. That&#039;s one of the reasons why I&#039;m a LIBERAL. There are any NUMBER of conservative individuals and organizations that should certainly &quot;induce you to vomit:

Take the white conservative-think tank sponsored Charles Murray of &quot;The Bell Curve&quot; fame, who believes that blacks, on average, are only 85% as intelligent as whites.
http://www.pbs.org/thinktank/transcript129.html
Take Heather MacDonald of the conservative Manhattan Institute, and her rationale for the lack of black bloggers. She explains why you have a problem blogging, LaShawn.

&gt;&gt;&gt;As for minorities, the skills gap in reading and writing means that, at the moment, a lower percentage of blacks and Hispanics possess the verbal acumen to produce a cutting-edge blog.&quot;  

http://nationalreview.com/comment/mac_donald200503300758.asp

Do I have to post up quotes from:
The Council of Conservative Citizens?
http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?aid=360
Or from the myriad of websites that tout racial superiority and eugenics?
http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?sid=240

Let me further establish, that even though I rarely agree with you, I SUPPORT your success in the blogosphere, and all of your endeavors because I realize there are those who still don&#039;t believe it&#039;s possible.

--Cobra
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;&gt;&#8221;When asked what he thought about Trent Lott&#8217;s comments about segregation in 2002, Connerly told CNN: &#8220;Supporting segregation need not be racist. One can believe in segregation and believe in equality of the races.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://gadflyer.com/articles/?ArticleID=173" rel="nofollow">http://gadflyer.com/articles/?ArticleID=173</a> </p>
<p>Lashawn writes:</p>
<p>&#8220;Any policy that even HINTS that I belong in a special category, separate from competition with whites because Iâ€™m black, is vomit-inducing. Implicit is such nonsense is my â€œinferiority.â€ &#8221;</p>
<p> Now, I hope you&#8217;re sitting down right now&#8230;because I&#8217;m going to AGREE WITH YOUR STATEMENT&#8230;to a degree. Given a choice between YOUR statement above, and Ward Connerly&#8217;s, I&#8217;d take yours in a heartbeat.</p>
<p>Yes, I would certainly take issue with a group or individual that would call both you and I &#8220;inferior&#8221; because we&#8217;re African American. That&#8217;s one of the reasons why I&#8217;m a LIBERAL. There are any NUMBER of conservative individuals and organizations that should certainly &#8220;induce you to vomit:</p>
<p>Take the white conservative-think tank sponsored Charles Murray of &#8220;The Bell Curve&#8221; fame, who believes that blacks, on average, are only 85% as intelligent as whites.<br />
<a href="http://www.pbs.org/thinktank/transcript129.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.pbs.org/thinktank/transcript129.html</a><br />
Take Heather MacDonald of the conservative Manhattan Institute, and her rationale for the lack of black bloggers. She explains why you have a problem blogging, LaShawn.</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;&gt;As for minorities, the skills gap in reading and writing means that, at the moment, a lower percentage of blacks and Hispanics possess the verbal acumen to produce a cutting-edge blog.&#8221;  </p>
<p><a href="http://nationalreview.com/comment/mac_donald200503300758.asp" rel="nofollow">http://nationalreview.com/comment/mac_donald200503300758.asp</a></p>
<p>Do I have to post up quotes from:<br />
The Council of Conservative Citizens?<br />
<a href="http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?aid=360" rel="nofollow">http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?aid=360</a><br />
Or from the myriad of websites that tout racial superiority and eugenics?<br />
<a href="http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?sid=240" rel="nofollow">http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?sid=240</a></p>
<p>Let me further establish, that even though I rarely agree with you, I SUPPORT your success in the blogosphere, and all of your endeavors because I realize there are those who still don&#8217;t believe it&#8217;s possible.</p>
<p>&#8211;Cobra</p>
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		<title>By: firebird</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/05/13/sound/comment-page-1/#comment-43526</link>
		<dc:creator>firebird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 May 2005 17:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder what JESSIE JACKSON and his RAINBOW/PUSH bunch think of this? will he and his hoods be holding a protest at the court house? will they hold riots? i suggest he and his monotone coalition get used to it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder what JESSIE JACKSON and his RAINBOW/PUSH bunch think of this? will he and his hoods be holding a protest at the court house? will they hold riots? i suggest he and his monotone coalition get used to it</p>
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		<title>By: Cobra</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/05/13/sound/comment-page-1/#comment-43523</link>
		<dc:creator>Cobra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 May 2005 14:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;&gt;&quot;Impact of Prop 209 â€” California, which has traditionally had the largest number of black-owned businesses, had slower growth in black self-employment in the five years following the passage of Proposition 209. Compared to a national average growth of 43 percent in black self-employment from 1997 to 2002, California&#039;s ranks of black self-employed only grew 30 percent. The national average growth for men was 21 percent, compared with 15 percent in California. The numbers of women sefl-employed in the Golden State grew 50 percent as opposed to a 70 percent gain nationally. Professor Wu, who spoke during the NAMIC awards breakfast in San Francisco, said initiatives like Prop. 209 &quot;have a very negative effect on black business both directly and indirectly because they have a chilling effect on entrepreneurs.&quot; A proposed initiative in Michigan carries &quot;tremendous risks,&quot; said Woo.
http://www.blackpressonline.com/

Couple that with the fact that Prop 209 used &quot;bait and switch language.&quot;

&gt;&gt;&gt;But the ultimate trick came with Proposition 209, audaciously known as, &quot;the California Civil Rights Initiative,&quot; which banned the use of race or sex as a criterion for &quot;either discrimination against or granting preferential treatment to&quot; anyone doing business with the state. Prop 209 spokesperson, Ward Connerly, is as duplicitous as the languageâ€”having once served as a paid lobbyist for the construction and roofing industry -- the same group that provided a vocal rearguard in recent Supreme Court affirmative action cases.
When the Harris Poll surveyed Californians, 81 percent supported the referendum. But when asked if they would still support the measure if it would &quot;outlaw all affirmative action programs for women and minorities&quot;-- that support fizzled to 29 percent, and opposition climbed from 11 percent to 58 percent. Simply put when the voters understand these mean-spirited ideas, they reject them. The citizens of Houston did not buy this verbal sleight of hand either, and refused to accept a similar initiative, when worded properly, even though theyâ€™re Southerners, and like California, in a highly populated state.&quot;
http://www.inmotionmagazine.com/pking.html 

So the fix was in. A lobbyist for white contractors (Connerly) came up with a cleverly worded scheme to eliminate non-white competition for his former bosses. If you doubt Connerly&#039;s motivation for these adventures, simply follow the money...
http://www.mediatransparency.org/people/ward_connerly.htm

  And just as an aside, what exactly was so GOOD about Proposition 54?

--Cobra

&lt;em&gt;Regardless of what you think of Ward Connerly personally, so-called affirmative action itself is nothing more than bar-lowering, skin color preferences/race discrimination, which, on its face, is repugnant to me as a black person. (I doubt the veracity of the claims made by your left-leaning sources. A liberal editor I had the displeasure of working with made a similar claim about Connerly. I&#039;d read and reviewed his book couldn&#039;t believe he&#039;d done what the editor accused him of. I contacted him, and he set the record straight. The false accusation stemmed from a San Francisco Examiner article that contained an error, which was later corrected.) 

Both sides can frame an issue in the most favorable light, but in this case, skin preferences are just plain demeaning. Any policy that even HINTS that I belong in a special category, separate from competition with whites because I&#039;m black, is vomit-inducing. Implicit is such nonsense is my &quot;inferiority.&quot; Government set-asides are now so ingrained in our minds, some blacks actually accept them as a preverse compliment, entitlements handed to us on a stinking garbage can lid as though it were a gift. That other blacks actually support such dignity-robbing policies is a frustration I will take to my grave. - Admin&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;&gt;&#8221;Impact of Prop 209 â€” California, which has traditionally had the largest number of black-owned businesses, had slower growth in black self-employment in the five years following the passage of Proposition 209. Compared to a national average growth of 43 percent in black self-employment from 1997 to 2002, California&#8217;s ranks of black self-employed only grew 30 percent. The national average growth for men was 21 percent, compared with 15 percent in California. The numbers of women sefl-employed in the Golden State grew 50 percent as opposed to a 70 percent gain nationally. Professor Wu, who spoke during the NAMIC awards breakfast in San Francisco, said initiatives like Prop. 209 &#8220;have a very negative effect on black business both directly and indirectly because they have a chilling effect on entrepreneurs.&#8221; A proposed initiative in Michigan carries &#8220;tremendous risks,&#8221; said Woo.<br />
<a href="http://www.blackpressonline.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.blackpressonline.com/</a></p>
<p>Couple that with the fact that Prop 209 used &#8220;bait and switch language.&#8221;</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;&gt;But the ultimate trick came with Proposition 209, audaciously known as, &#8220;the California Civil Rights Initiative,&#8221; which banned the use of race or sex as a criterion for &#8220;either discrimination against or granting preferential treatment to&#8221; anyone doing business with the state. Prop 209 spokesperson, Ward Connerly, is as duplicitous as the languageâ€”having once served as a paid lobbyist for the construction and roofing industry &#8212; the same group that provided a vocal rearguard in recent Supreme Court affirmative action cases.<br />
When the Harris Poll surveyed Californians, 81 percent supported the referendum. But when asked if they would still support the measure if it would &#8220;outlaw all affirmative action programs for women and minorities&#8221;&#8211; that support fizzled to 29 percent, and opposition climbed from 11 percent to 58 percent. Simply put when the voters understand these mean-spirited ideas, they reject them. The citizens of Houston did not buy this verbal sleight of hand either, and refused to accept a similar initiative, when worded properly, even though theyâ€™re Southerners, and like California, in a highly populated state.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.inmotionmagazine.com/pking.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.inmotionmagazine.com/pking.html</a> </p>
<p>So the fix was in. A lobbyist for white contractors (Connerly) came up with a cleverly worded scheme to eliminate non-white competition for his former bosses. If you doubt Connerly&#8217;s motivation for these adventures, simply follow the money&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://www.mediatransparency.org/people/ward_connerly.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.mediatransparency.org/people/ward_connerly.htm</a></p>
<p>  And just as an aside, what exactly was so GOOD about Proposition 54?</p>
<p>&#8211;Cobra</p>
<p><em>Regardless of what you think of Ward Connerly personally, so-called affirmative action itself is nothing more than bar-lowering, skin color preferences/race discrimination, which, on its face, is repugnant to me as a black person. (I doubt the veracity of the claims made by your left-leaning sources. A liberal editor I had the displeasure of working with made a similar claim about Connerly. I&#8217;d read and reviewed his book couldn&#8217;t believe he&#8217;d done what the editor accused him of. I contacted him, and he set the record straight. The false accusation stemmed from a San Francisco Examiner article that contained an error, which was later corrected.) </p>
<p>Both sides can frame an issue in the most favorable light, but in this case, skin preferences are just plain demeaning. Any policy that even HINTS that I belong in a special category, separate from competition with whites because I&#8217;m black, is vomit-inducing. Implicit is such nonsense is my &#8220;inferiority.&#8221; Government set-asides are now so ingrained in our minds, some blacks actually accept them as a preverse compliment, entitlements handed to us on a stinking garbage can lid as though it were a gift. That other blacks actually support such dignity-robbing policies is a frustration I will take to my grave. &#8211; Admin</em></p>
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		<title>By: Chris Roberts</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/05/13/sound/comment-page-1/#comment-43431</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 May 2005 03:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Us revisionists thought the 80&#039;s were pretty darn good too...didn&#039;t you read LaShawn&#039;s post about Top Gun???

Yup, I can&#039;t wait to get back on the plantation and put those blacks back where they belong.  I can whistle me some more dixie and them folks can pick some more cotton.

I&#039;m sure that&#039;s the goal of all of us &quot;revisionist righties&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Us revisionists thought the 80&#8217;s were pretty darn good too&#8230;didn&#8217;t you read LaShawn&#8217;s post about Top Gun???</p>
<p>Yup, I can&#8217;t wait to get back on the plantation and put those blacks back where they belong.  I can whistle me some more dixie and them folks can pick some more cotton.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure that&#8217;s the goal of all of us &#8220;revisionist righties&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: RedBeard</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/05/13/sound/comment-page-1/#comment-43416</link>
		<dc:creator>RedBeard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2005 20:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cobra, there is so much wrong with your last post that I hardly know where to begin.  

So I won&#039;t.  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cobra, there is so much wrong with your last post that I hardly know where to begin.  </p>
<p>So I won&#8217;t.  <img src='http://lashawnbarber.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Cobra</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/05/13/sound/comment-page-1/#comment-43415</link>
		<dc:creator>Cobra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2005 20:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, yet another victory for the revisionist right. Now they&#039;ll go back to drawing board on Prop 54--Ward Connerly&#039;s scheme to eliminate all government records and tracking of racial discrimination and the journey back to the 1950&#039;s will be complete.
 But hey...that&#039;s the last decade most conservatives said was &quot;good&quot; for America, right?

--Cobra</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, yet another victory for the revisionist right. Now they&#8217;ll go back to drawing board on Prop 54&#8211;Ward Connerly&#8217;s scheme to eliminate all government records and tracking of racial discrimination and the journey back to the 1950&#8217;s will be complete.<br />
 But hey&#8230;that&#8217;s the last decade most conservatives said was &#8220;good&#8221; for America, right?</p>
<p>&#8211;Cobra</p>
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		<title>By: Glamchild</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glamchild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2005 18:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think there&#039;s any way to enforce it though. The Colleges will get around it, somehow.  I&#039;ve always thought it was very ironic that the majority of College Administrators/Admissions/Regents....who support affirmative action, are overwhelmingly White---and they think they&#039;re being so altruistic.

It&#039;s almost like plantation imagery:  The benevolent White master who is so generous with the Black slaves. ---The oh-so-sympathetic White College Admissions/Regents who freely admit the throngs of ill-prepared minorities.

I think we should start doing affirmative action and diversity at the Administrative/Admissions level. 

OFF TOPIC:  Sorry, but I&#039;m absolutely livid over the comments Vincente Fox made about how..... &quot;Mexicans do the jobs even Blacks would not do&quot;.    He&#039;s angry about USA Migrant Policy. Yeah, well I&#039;m angry too.  Where does he get off talking about what Blacks would or wouldn&#039;t do?  Very presumptuous and arrogant.  Plenty of Blacks work unglamorous minimum wage jobs, or would like to--- but for the fact that they don&#039;t speak Spanish!  If these jobs are so horrible, and exploiting......I&#039;d think Fox would be relieved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s any way to enforce it though. The Colleges will get around it, somehow.  I&#8217;ve always thought it was very ironic that the majority of College Administrators/Admissions/Regents&#8230;.who support affirmative action, are overwhelmingly White&#8212;and they think they&#8217;re being so altruistic.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s almost like plantation imagery:  The benevolent White master who is so generous with the Black slaves. &#8212;The oh-so-sympathetic White College Admissions/Regents who freely admit the throngs of ill-prepared minorities.</p>
<p>I think we should start doing affirmative action and diversity at the Administrative/Admissions level. </p>
<p>OFF TOPIC:  Sorry, but I&#8217;m absolutely livid over the comments Vincente Fox made about how&#8230;.. &#8220;Mexicans do the jobs even Blacks would not do&#8221;.    He&#8217;s angry about USA Migrant Policy. Yeah, well I&#8217;m angry too.  Where does he get off talking about what Blacks would or wouldn&#8217;t do?  Very presumptuous and arrogant.  Plenty of Blacks work unglamorous minimum wage jobs, or would like to&#8212; but for the fact that they don&#8217;t speak Spanish!  If these jobs are so horrible, and exploiting&#8230;&#8230;I&#8217;d think Fox would be relieved.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2005 04:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...if higher edgucation is not a part of your parents life it is less likely to be a part of yours. This opinion was developed over 20 years (my entire adult life) of living and raising a family...&quot;

That was my experience too Kahuffman. It is all about your parents expectations and the money to 
back them up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;if higher edgucation is not a part of your parents life it is less likely to be a part of yours. This opinion was developed over 20 years (my entire adult life) of living and raising a family&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>That was my experience too Kahuffman. It is all about your parents expectations and the money to<br />
back them up.</p>
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		<title>By: kahuffman</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/05/13/sound/comment-page-1/#comment-43371</link>
		<dc:creator>kahuffman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2005 03:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tiffany my post was too shortly worded: the statment that 75% of black children don&#039;t think that collage is an option means that children, tend to live what they know as life experience. i.e. if higher edgucation is not a part of your parents life it is less likely to be a part of yours. This opinion was developed over 20 years (my entire adult life) of living and raising a family in the near northside of the same city (minneapolis) as you. The statement is not meant to be racist the same thing could be said about poor children of any race. Can this be changed? of course it can , but it takes work that some don&#039;t seem willing to take on. I am white my husband and children are not and I&#039;ve had this same arguement with him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tiffany my post was too shortly worded: the statment that 75% of black children don&#8217;t think that collage is an option means that children, tend to live what they know as life experience. i.e. if higher edgucation is not a part of your parents life it is less likely to be a part of yours. This opinion was developed over 20 years (my entire adult life) of living and raising a family in the near northside of the same city (minneapolis) as you. The statement is not meant to be racist the same thing could be said about poor children of any race. Can this be changed? of course it can , but it takes work that some don&#8217;t seem willing to take on. I am white my husband and children are not and I&#8217;ve had this same arguement with him.</p>
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		<title>By: Rafael Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rafael Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2005 02:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Tony, your statement is one of the CLEAREST I have EVER heard on the diversity/tribalism/racism issue. Bravo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Tony, your statement is one of the CLEAREST I have EVER heard on the diversity/tribalism/racism issue. Bravo.</p>
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		<title>By: RedBeard</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/05/13/sound/comment-page-1/#comment-43352</link>
		<dc:creator>RedBeard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2005 22:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t worry, folks. The leftist judiciary hasn&#039;t been reformed.  This good ruling is only an aberration in the ongoing agenda of legislating from the bench.  Here&#039;s proof.  In Nebraska, the will of the people has been trashed by a single judge:

http://www.beaufortgazette.com/24hour/nation/story/2392798p-10658593c.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t worry, folks. The leftist judiciary hasn&#8217;t been reformed.  This good ruling is only an aberration in the ongoing agenda of legislating from the bench.  Here&#8217;s proof.  In Nebraska, the will of the people has been trashed by a single judge:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.beaufortgazette.com/24hour/nation/story/2392798p-10658593c.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.beaufortgazette.com/24hour/nation/story/2392798p-10658593c.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tiffany In Mpls</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tiffany In Mpls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2005 21:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LaShawn,

This post is being linked by Salon.com on their round up of blogs, left and right, here&#039;s the link:

daoureport.salon.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LaShawn,</p>
<p>This post is being linked by Salon.com on their round up of blogs, left and right, here&#8217;s the link:</p>
<p>daoureport.salon.com/</p>
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