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		<title>By: Walter E. Wallis</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/05/21/idont/comment-page-3/#comment-44649</link>
		<dc:creator>Walter E. Wallis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2005 16:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are either for us or against us.</description>
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		<title>By: Baklava</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/05/21/idont/comment-page-3/#comment-44643</link>
		<dc:creator>Baklava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2005 16:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Raf wrote, &quot;Conservatives are 0 on the scale?  :) Okay.&quot;

Yes. Centrist conservatives like me are at about a zero on the political scale. While my position is that we should FREEZE the federal government spending amount for 10 years while we REPRIORITIZE what we spend on to what the constitution specifies the federal government spend on and do so with continued generosity (just not an increase) that position may be TO THE RIGHT of Republicans and Democrats but it is a ZERO on the political scale whether you like it or not. 

This country has been moving left for over 75 years (since 1930) and the left keeps getting loonier with their position that Republicans are extreme.

Most of my disagreements with Republicans are because Republicans are voting and verbalizing to the left on issues of importance. We basically have 2 major parties that are to the left of center but one is even more left (the Democrats) and makes up even more non-facts.

Try to look for a moment Raf at Libertarians position of wanting to cut government by &lt;strong&gt; 80%&lt;/strong&gt; and you&#039;ll see very well that there is a political center. Who do you think occupies it? It is people like me and their are a lot of us out there. 

We don&#039;t understand why when the President offers for the first time federal spending on stem cell research that&#039;s called a ban by you lefties AND... we don&#039;t understand why the federal government had to spend on it anyway when the private sector has been and is doing the research far more effectively and efficiently. The objections have nothing to do with religious reasons for me though I find those objections compelling also because when it comes to our federal government doing things they should always strive to do things ethically. Let only private citizens do things with their own money in unethical ways and if they cross a LEGAL boundary then  ... ah I digressed.

But you get the point. And the main stream press barely ever understands or espouses a conservative&#039;s viewpoint so the left argues against extremes because they NEVER take the time to understand the conservative&#039;s position or what a conservative has said. 

They&#039;ll setup situations like Anom does and did where he&#039;ll say that there was no connection between 9/11 terrorists and Iraq. Why does Anom say that? Because he NEVER took the time to understand the conservative position. He read main stream media or even more leftist sources and had his own mind convinced that conservatives went into Iraq because there was a connection. 

Although there were Al Qaida folks who have been documented to have met with Saddam and been based in Iraq it was never a conservative position to say that there was a connection between 9/11 and Iraq. 

It would behoove you and Anom (in order to debate well) to do the following:
1) Stop throwing out inaccurate attacks/accusations
2) Understand the conservative position
3) Try to come to an understanding of both sides of a debate (instead of feeling like you care and Republicans/conservatives are mean and evil and don&#039;t care) so that you can understand how we have come to our position. 

You might disagree with us, but it would help if you try to convince us that your POLICY position is better as opposed to just attacking and accusing (the pattern that exists by so many leftists including Anom and Darkstar and Actus). 

While each of your positions is slightly different the pattern of attacking and accusing and misrepresenting is the same. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Raf wrote, &#8220;Conservatives are 0 on the scale?  <img src='http://lashawnbarber.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Okay.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes. Centrist conservatives like me are at about a zero on the political scale. While my position is that we should FREEZE the federal government spending amount for 10 years while we REPRIORITIZE what we spend on to what the constitution specifies the federal government spend on and do so with continued generosity (just not an increase) that position may be TO THE RIGHT of Republicans and Democrats but it is a ZERO on the political scale whether you like it or not. </p>
<p>This country has been moving left for over 75 years (since 1930) and the left keeps getting loonier with their position that Republicans are extreme.</p>
<p>Most of my disagreements with Republicans are because Republicans are voting and verbalizing to the left on issues of importance. We basically have 2 major parties that are to the left of center but one is even more left (the Democrats) and makes up even more non-facts.</p>
<p>Try to look for a moment Raf at Libertarians position of wanting to cut government by <strong> 80%</strong> and you&#8217;ll see very well that there is a political center. Who do you think occupies it? It is people like me and their are a lot of us out there. </p>
<p>We don&#8217;t understand why when the President offers for the first time federal spending on stem cell research that&#8217;s called a ban by you lefties AND&#8230; we don&#8217;t understand why the federal government had to spend on it anyway when the private sector has been and is doing the research far more effectively and efficiently. The objections have nothing to do with religious reasons for me though I find those objections compelling also because when it comes to our federal government doing things they should always strive to do things ethically. Let only private citizens do things with their own money in unethical ways and if they cross a LEGAL boundary then  &#8230; ah I digressed.</p>
<p>But you get the point. And the main stream press barely ever understands or espouses a conservative&#8217;s viewpoint so the left argues against extremes because they NEVER take the time to understand the conservative&#8217;s position or what a conservative has said. </p>
<p>They&#8217;ll setup situations like Anom does and did where he&#8217;ll say that there was no connection between 9/11 terrorists and Iraq. Why does Anom say that? Because he NEVER took the time to understand the conservative position. He read main stream media or even more leftist sources and had his own mind convinced that conservatives went into Iraq because there was a connection. </p>
<p>Although there were Al Qaida folks who have been documented to have met with Saddam and been based in Iraq it was never a conservative position to say that there was a connection between 9/11 and Iraq. </p>
<p>It would behoove you and Anom (in order to debate well) to do the following:<br />
1) Stop throwing out inaccurate attacks/accusations<br />
2) Understand the conservative position<br />
3) Try to come to an understanding of both sides of a debate (instead of feeling like you care and Republicans/conservatives are mean and evil and don&#8217;t care) so that you can understand how we have come to our position. </p>
<p>You might disagree with us, but it would help if you try to convince us that your POLICY position is better as opposed to just attacking and accusing (the pattern that exists by so many leftists including Anom and Darkstar and Actus). </p>
<p>While each of your positions is slightly different the pattern of attacking and accusing and misrepresenting is the same.</p>
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		<title>By: docjim505</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/05/21/idont/comment-page-3/#comment-44629</link>
		<dc:creator>docjim505</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2005 14:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy and Baklava,

Thanks.

I have to say, though, that as much as I disagree with folks like Rafael Daniel and Anomalocaris, they&#039;ve got their share of guts sticking their heads into the hornets nest of a conservative blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy and Baklava,</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
<p>I have to say, though, that as much as I disagree with folks like Rafael Daniel and Anomalocaris, they&#8217;ve got their share of guts sticking their heads into the hornets nest of a conservative blog.</p>
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		<title>By: SCSIwuzzy</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/05/21/idont/comment-page-3/#comment-44623</link>
		<dc:creator>SCSIwuzzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2005 13:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mmmm, the left&#039;s nut cases are known for:
Treason and espinage
Spiking trees to kill lumberjacks
setting fire to SUVs
marching against Israel
etc etc etc
Man, the right wing nuts must be really out there to out do the left then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mmmm, the left&#8217;s nut cases are known for:<br />
Treason and espinage<br />
Spiking trees to kill lumberjacks<br />
setting fire to SUVs<br />
marching against Israel<br />
etc etc etc<br />
Man, the right wing nuts must be really out there to out do the left then.</p>
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		<title>By: Rafael Daniel</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/05/21/idont/comment-page-3/#comment-44513</link>
		<dc:creator>Rafael Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2005 03:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Montie, there ARE more nuts on the left side. On this we agree. But the nuts on the extreme right are a lot more dangerous in my view. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Montie, there ARE more nuts on the left side. On this we agree. But the nuts on the extreme right are a lot more dangerous in my view.</p>
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		<title>By: Montie</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/05/21/idont/comment-page-3/#comment-44512</link>
		<dc:creator>Montie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2005 03:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mwalimu Daudi,

You might as well give it up. The MSM operates in the same belief system as Anomalocaris, so he will never see it, or believe it, until he has his own personal epiphany (if ever).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mwalimu Daudi,</p>
<p>You might as well give it up. The MSM operates in the same belief system as Anomalocaris, so he will never see it, or believe it, until he has his own personal epiphany (if ever).</p>
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		<title>By: Mwalimu Daudi</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/05/21/idont/comment-page-3/#comment-44497</link>
		<dc:creator>Mwalimu Daudi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2005 02:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anomalocaris, you are off topic again touting the Democratic &quot;brain&quot; trust. What about the missing stories about the UN oil-for-food, repression of non-Muslims, etc. that the MSM is not covering? Again, what will it take to convince you that the far Left and the MSM is providing political cover for radical Islam in a modern-day Hitler-Stalin pact?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anomalocaris, you are off topic again touting the Democratic &#8220;brain&#8221; trust. What about the missing stories about the UN oil-for-food, repression of non-Muslims, etc. that the MSM is not covering? Again, what will it take to convince you that the far Left and the MSM is providing political cover for radical Islam in a modern-day Hitler-Stalin pact?</p>
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		<title>By: Montie</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/05/21/idont/comment-page-3/#comment-44495</link>
		<dc:creator>Montie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2005 02:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rafael, I don&#039;t think he meant conservatives in general, just those like himself. There ARE nut jobs on both side of the scale, it&#039;s just that the scale is so much heavier on the left side ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rafael, I don&#8217;t think he meant conservatives in general, just those like himself. There ARE nut jobs on both side of the scale, it&#8217;s just that the scale is so much heavier on the left side <img src='http://lashawnbarber.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: RedBeard</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/05/21/idont/comment-page-2/#comment-44489</link>
		<dc:creator>RedBeard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2005 01:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahem.  Typing is not my strong suit.  I meant to say that &quot;It just makes NO logical sense&quot; rather than &quot;It just makes TO logical sense.&quot;  

Back to school, RedBeard.  ;)  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahem.  Typing is not my strong suit.  I meant to say that &#8220;It just makes NO logical sense&#8221; rather than &#8220;It just makes TO logical sense.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Back to school, RedBeard.  <img src='http://lashawnbarber.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Chris Roberts</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/05/21/idont/comment-page-2/#comment-44488</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2005 01:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nah, just Santa Claus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nah, just Santa Claus.</p>
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		<title>By: Rafael Daniel</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/05/21/idont/comment-page-2/#comment-44484</link>
		<dc:creator>Rafael Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2005 01:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bet you guys believe in the Easter Bunny too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bet you guys believe in the Easter Bunny too.</p>
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		<title>By: Rafael Daniel</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/05/21/idont/comment-page-2/#comment-44483</link>
		<dc:creator>Rafael Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2005 01:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Conservatives are 0 on the scale? :-)) Okay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conservatives are 0 on the scale? <img src='http://lashawnbarber.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> ) Okay.</p>
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		<title>By: RedBeard</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/05/21/idont/comment-page-2/#comment-44480</link>
		<dc:creator>RedBeard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2005 01:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I listened to Michael Savage tonight on the way home from work.  His aggressive style wears a little thin on me, and I can only take about 20 or 30 minutes of him per session.  However, he often repeats a mantra that tickles me because I know it&#039;s just driving the left into hysterical fits of apoplexy:  &lt;strong&gt;&quot;Liberalism is a mental disorder.&quot;&lt;/strong&gt;  ;)

I don&#039;t actually subscribe to that rather abusive view, but I do admit that I cannot understand the reasons for holding a liberal philosophy.  It just makes to logical sense to support big government, the nanny state, wealth redistribution, unilateral pacifism, racial pigeonholing, gun control, political correctness, moral relativity, outcome-based education, softness on crime, unlimited abortion on demand, and the surrendering of sovereignty to the U.N.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I listened to Michael Savage tonight on the way home from work.  His aggressive style wears a little thin on me, and I can only take about 20 or 30 minutes of him per session.  However, he often repeats a mantra that tickles me because I know it&#8217;s just driving the left into hysterical fits of apoplexy:  <strong>&#8220;Liberalism is a mental disorder.&#8221;</strong>  <img src='http://lashawnbarber.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t actually subscribe to that rather abusive view, but I do admit that I cannot understand the reasons for holding a liberal philosophy.  It just makes to logical sense to support big government, the nanny state, wealth redistribution, unilateral pacifism, racial pigeonholing, gun control, political correctness, moral relativity, outcome-based education, softness on crime, unlimited abortion on demand, and the surrendering of sovereignty to the U.N.</p>
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		<title>By: Montie</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/05/21/idont/comment-page-2/#comment-44469</link>
		<dc:creator>Montie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2005 01:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Andy :-) That&#039;s one nice thing about the internet. No need to feel bad about engaging in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Andy <img src='http://lashawnbarber.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  That&#8217;s one nice thing about the internet. No need to feel bad about engaging in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent!</p>
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		<title>By: Baklava</title>
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		<dc:creator>Baklava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2005 01:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I second that!</description>
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