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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/05/24/confession/comment-page-1/#comment-45468</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 May 2005 22:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephen, sorry to beat this dead horse, but here&#039;s another angle.  

It&#039;s not too far fetched to believe Islamofacist are above ensnaring women for the faith, when they are not above ensnaring their own (actually children of other muslim families) to act as human bombers (&quot;suicide bombers&quot; is a misnomer).

Using brainwashed minors (a couple reference the 15th such incident within the past 2 months):
www.teachkidspeace.org/doc1020.php
www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&amp;cid=1117247288558
www.jihadwatch.org/archives/002257.php

Using handcuffed or otherwise clueless human bombers:
www.post-gazette.com/pg/05123/498196.stm
www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/world/ny-woiraq134256907may13,0,2890610.story?coll=ny-worldnews-headlines

Using mentally impaired (Down Syndrome) human bombers:
http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=4070337

Using pets (where&#039;s PETA?  Out killing all the unwanted pets they can get their hands on):
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/05/27/wirq27.xml&amp;sSheet=/portal/2005/05/27/ixportal.html

Using women/men who have shamed their families, ie extramarital sex/being penetrated (men penetrating men, women, animals is ok, being penetrated is not):
www.freespeech.com/archives/001794.html
www.911digitalarchive.org/objects/21.html

You&#039;ll really like this one -- love/divorce/spiritual advisor = the cause:
www.freedommag.org/english/vol35I1/page15.htm

Religion of peace/love!  Come again Mr. Bush?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen, sorry to beat this dead horse, but here&#8217;s another angle.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not too far fetched to believe Islamofacist are above ensnaring women for the faith, when they are not above ensnaring their own (actually children of other muslim families) to act as human bombers (&#8220;suicide bombers&#8221; is a misnomer).</p>
<p>Using brainwashed minors (a couple reference the 15th such incident within the past 2 months):<br />
<a href="http://www.teachkidspeace.org/doc1020.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.teachkidspeace.org/doc1020.php</a><br />
<a href="http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&#038;cid=1117247288558" rel="nofollow">http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&#038;cid=1117247288558</a><br />
<a href="http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/002257.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/002257.php</a></p>
<p>Using handcuffed or otherwise clueless human bombers:<br />
<a href="http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05123/498196.stm" rel="nofollow">http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05123/498196.stm</a><br />
<a href="http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/world/ny-woiraq134256907may13,0,2890610.story?coll=ny-worldnews-headlines" rel="nofollow">http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/world/ny-woiraq134256907may13,0,2890610.story?coll=ny-worldnews-headlines</a></p>
<p>Using mentally impaired (Down Syndrome) human bombers:<br />
<a href="http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=4070337" rel="nofollow">http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=4070337</a></p>
<p>Using pets (where&#8217;s PETA?  Out killing all the unwanted pets they can get their hands on):<br />
<a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/05/27/wirq27.xml&#038;sSheet=/portal/2005/05/27/ixportal.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/05/27/wirq27.xml&#038;sSheet=/portal/2005/05/27/ixportal.html</a></p>
<p>Using women/men who have shamed their families, ie extramarital sex/being penetrated (men penetrating men, women, animals is ok, being penetrated is not):<br />
<a href="http://www.freespeech.com/archives/001794.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.freespeech.com/archives/001794.html</a><br />
<a href="http://www.911digitalarchive.org/objects/21.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.911digitalarchive.org/objects/21.html</a></p>
<p>You&#8217;ll really like this one &#8212; love/divorce/spiritual advisor = the cause:<br />
<a href="http://www.freedommag.org/english/vol35I1/page15.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.freedommag.org/english/vol35I1/page15.htm</a></p>
<p>Religion of peace/love!  Come again Mr. Bush?</p>
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		<title>By: Blind Mind&#8217;s Eye</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/05/24/confession/comment-page-1/#comment-45334</link>
		<dc:creator>Blind Mind&#8217;s Eye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 May 2005 02:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then I saw LaShawn Barber&#8217;s post where she quoted from it and I continued reading it. I got a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then I saw LaShawn Barber&#8217;s post where she quoted from it and I continued reading it. I got a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/05/24/confession/comment-page-1/#comment-45275</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 May 2005 00:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair enough, but do inform yourself -- it is not uncommon. I can&#039;t vouch for the veracity of his particular story, but I can vouch for the motive to forcibly convert by hook or crook rather than on the persuasive merits of faith.

One place to start is with black Sudanese women forced into Islam to save their life and what&#039;s left of honor.  

To be uninformed about such diabolical tactics is akin to a pet sheep willingly led to slaughter.

Check these out:
http://web.amnesty.org/library/index/engafr540762004

www.camlaw.rutgers.edu/publications/law-religion/articles/RJLR_5_1_2.pdf

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/printFriendly/0,,2020-531-1165770-17549,00.html

The Death &amp; Deception post below is interesting.
http://platform.blogs.com/passionofthepresent/2004/07/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair enough, but do inform yourself &#8212; it is not uncommon. I can&#8217;t vouch for the veracity of his particular story, but I can vouch for the motive to forcibly convert by hook or crook rather than on the persuasive merits of faith.</p>
<p>One place to start is with black Sudanese women forced into Islam to save their life and what&#8217;s left of honor.  </p>
<p>To be uninformed about such diabolical tactics is akin to a pet sheep willingly led to slaughter.</p>
<p>Check these out:<br />
<a href="http://web.amnesty.org/library/index/engafr540762004" rel="nofollow">http://web.amnesty.org/library/index/engafr540762004</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.camlaw.rutgers.edu/publications/law-religion/articles/RJLR_5_1_2.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.camlaw.rutgers.edu/publications/law-religion/articles/RJLR_5_1_2.pdf</a></p>
<p><a href="http://business.timesonline.co.uk/printFriendly/0,,2020-531-1165770-17549,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://business.timesonline.co.uk/printFriendly/0,,2020-531-1165770-17549,00.html</a></p>
<p>The Death &amp; Deception post below is interesting.<br />
<a href="http://platform.blogs.com/passionofthepresent/2004/07/" rel="nofollow">http://platform.blogs.com/passionofthepresent/2004/07/</a></p>
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		<title>By: stephen johnson</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/05/24/confession/comment-page-1/#comment-45248</link>
		<dc:creator>stephen johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2005 18:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not buying his particular story.  Not informed enough to doubt such things occur.  That is the distinction that I am drawing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not buying his particular story.  Not informed enough to doubt such things occur.  That is the distinction that I am drawing.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/05/24/confession/comment-page-1/#comment-45243</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2005 18:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephen, one thot.  You don&#039;t believe his particular story or that such a thing even occurs?  To wit take Ms Ayaan Hirsi Ali. She&#039;s a 35-year-old Somali-born ex-Muslim and Dutch parliamentarian.  She collaborated with Director Theo van Gogh on a provocative 11-minute film called &quot;Submission&quot;. As you may recall, Theo&#039;s head was ritualistically cut off (almost) and a jihadist rant pinned to his chest with a knife.  

Submission illustrates the total repression of women at the hands of Islamic men.  As a result of this percieved outrage and &quot;desecration&quot; of Islamic sensibilities, a fatwa has been placed on her head. Remember Slaman Rushdie?  She also lives under lock and key, guarded 24 hours a day, and transported everywhere in an armored vehicle.

That&#039;s the price of liberty and free-speech in Holland, just another socialist EU country besieged by jihadists. In a recent interview, she said &quot;This fatwa isn&#039;t just directed against me but against Holland, against the entire Western world. We are all targets. In the eyes of radical Muslims, any country in which Muslims can be criticized openly is an enemy of Islam.&quot;

I think it would be great if she migrated here and resumed her political career here.  Just think, the MSM/DNC would have a cow, since they couldn&#039;t call her a house n***ress, or any nonsuch. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen, one thot.  You don&#8217;t believe his particular story or that such a thing even occurs?  To wit take Ms Ayaan Hirsi Ali. She&#8217;s a 35-year-old Somali-born ex-Muslim and Dutch parliamentarian.  She collaborated with Director Theo van Gogh on a provocative 11-minute film called &#8220;Submission&#8221;. As you may recall, Theo&#8217;s head was ritualistically cut off (almost) and a jihadist rant pinned to his chest with a knife.  </p>
<p>Submission illustrates the total repression of women at the hands of Islamic men.  As a result of this percieved outrage and &#8220;desecration&#8221; of Islamic sensibilities, a fatwa has been placed on her head. Remember Slaman Rushdie?  She also lives under lock and key, guarded 24 hours a day, and transported everywhere in an armored vehicle.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the price of liberty and free-speech in Holland, just another socialist EU country besieged by jihadists. In a recent interview, she said &#8220;This fatwa isn&#8217;t just directed against me but against Holland, against the entire Western world. We are all targets. In the eyes of radical Muslims, any country in which Muslims can be criticized openly is an enemy of Islam.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think it would be great if she migrated here and resumed her political career here.  Just think, the MSM/DNC would have a cow, since they couldn&#8217;t call her a house n***ress, or any nonsuch. <img src='http://lashawnbarber.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Baklava</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/05/24/confession/comment-page-1/#comment-45242</link>
		<dc:creator>Baklava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2005 18:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be wise for Muslims to try to their very core to root out among them and and speak against this philosophy without any &quot;but&#039;s&quot; or moral relativism speak about what we do. 

Enough is enough and there is no comparison in intentions. Trying to save our lives and having inadvertant civilian casualties is not the same as &quot;targeting&quot; the largest population centers for as much killing as possible. 

What is the alternative to trying to save our lives? Actus? What&#039;s the answer? Give the terrorists whayt they want</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be wise for Muslims to try to their very core to root out among them and and speak against this philosophy without any &#8220;but&#8217;s&#8221; or moral relativism speak about what we do. </p>
<p>Enough is enough and there is no comparison in intentions. Trying to save our lives and having inadvertant civilian casualties is not the same as &#8220;targeting&#8221; the largest population centers for as much killing as possible. </p>
<p>What is the alternative to trying to save our lives? Actus? What&#8217;s the answer? Give the terrorists whayt they want</p>
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		<title>By: Baklava</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/05/24/confession/comment-page-1/#comment-45241</link>
		<dc:creator>Baklava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2005 17:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Until &quot;infidels&quot; can be spared their lives, I don&#039;t see it any other way either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Until &#8220;infidels&#8221; can be spared their lives, I don&#8217;t see it any other way either.</p>
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		<title>By: Proud Albertan</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/05/24/confession/comment-page-1/#comment-45240</link>
		<dc:creator>Proud Albertan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2005 17:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve just one thing.......Islam is evil to its very core and like Nazism and Marxism, it deserves NO respect whatsoever......However, that doesn&#039;t mean we cannot have respect for Muslims.

Note the dichotomy here.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve just one thing&#8230;&#8230;.Islam is evil to its very core and like Nazism and Marxism, it deserves NO respect whatsoever&#8230;&#8230;However, that doesn&#8217;t mean we cannot have respect for Muslims.</p>
<p>Note the dichotomy here&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: stephen johnson</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/05/24/confession/comment-page-1/#comment-45187</link>
		<dc:creator>stephen johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2005 13:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy,

Assuming the story to be true, we can agree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy,</p>
<p>Assuming the story to be true, we can agree.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/05/24/confession/comment-page-1/#comment-45170</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2005 04:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, you mean REPENT for the day of the Lord is at hand? I wonder why there&#039;s 105 verses with the &quot;R&quot; word in the KJV :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, you mean REPENT for the day of the Lord is at hand? I wonder why there&#8217;s 105 verses with the &#8220;R&#8221; word in the KJV <img src='http://lashawnbarber.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Chris Roberts</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/05/24/confession/comment-page-1/#comment-45166</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2005 03:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy-
LB&#039;s going to be up in arms.  That&#039;s multiple uses of the &quot;R&quot; word in just a few days time!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy-<br />
LB&#8217;s going to be up in arms.  That&#8217;s multiple uses of the &#8220;R&#8221; word in just a few days time!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Rafael Daniel</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/05/24/confession/comment-page-1/#comment-45136</link>
		<dc:creator>Rafael Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2005 01:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul was ahead of his time. People STILL don&#039;t get was he was coming from, just like Peter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul was ahead of his time. People STILL don&#8217;t get was he was coming from, just like Peter.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/05/24/confession/comment-page-1/#comment-45135</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2005 01:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephen, the &quot;barbarity is cultural&quot; and justified by Islam.  A classic example would be the Lawrence of Arabia flick with Peter O&#039;Toole, where a tribesman was killed simply for attempting to drink from a rival tribe&#039;s well.

Losing face in, say, Japan cuts across all religious lines, in ways that may strike a Westerner as strange.  It doesn&#039;t matter if the Westerner is Christian or Buddhist, they just don&#039;t feel shame the same as a Christian or Buddhist Japanese.

We westerners may find polygamy repugnant, while an African Christian may have no qualms about having several.  Is he less of a Christian than you?

Likewise, how many Americans would shut down their businesses and disappear out of shame that their daughter is &quot;exposed&quot; as a whore or that their son was caught in the act with a donkey?  

The fact that the writer is recounting his history does not require that he express his remorse in a way satisfactory to you.  The fact that he repented and worked to restore the damage is proof enough of his faith.

Yes I know the way he did it is not the American way of profusely apologizing for everything, whether or not one was responsible, a la Slick apologizing to Africans for slavery or Clarke apologizing for having failed the Americans over 9/11 (for what??).  That sort of apology is glib and designed to elict empathy and score points without truly repenting.

All I&#039;m saying is you can&#039;t ascribe your values in tone and writing to a Christian in another culture.  

As for Paul, I&#039;m not ascribing anything from him to this man&#039;s testimony.  I&#039;m comparing your reaction to him, to that of some christians quibble about Paul&#039;s apparent harshness and lack of Christly love.

Can we agree that regardless, the author was scarred by his experience within the hellhole that is Islam?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen, the &#8220;barbarity is cultural&#8221; and justified by Islam.  A classic example would be the Lawrence of Arabia flick with Peter O&#8217;Toole, where a tribesman was killed simply for attempting to drink from a rival tribe&#8217;s well.</p>
<p>Losing face in, say, Japan cuts across all religious lines, in ways that may strike a Westerner as strange.  It doesn&#8217;t matter if the Westerner is Christian or Buddhist, they just don&#8217;t feel shame the same as a Christian or Buddhist Japanese.</p>
<p>We westerners may find polygamy repugnant, while an African Christian may have no qualms about having several.  Is he less of a Christian than you?</p>
<p>Likewise, how many Americans would shut down their businesses and disappear out of shame that their daughter is &#8220;exposed&#8221; as a whore or that their son was caught in the act with a donkey?  </p>
<p>The fact that the writer is recounting his history does not require that he express his remorse in a way satisfactory to you.  The fact that he repented and worked to restore the damage is proof enough of his faith.</p>
<p>Yes I know the way he did it is not the American way of profusely apologizing for everything, whether or not one was responsible, a la Slick apologizing to Africans for slavery or Clarke apologizing for having failed the Americans over 9/11 (for what??).  That sort of apology is glib and designed to elict empathy and score points without truly repenting.</p>
<p>All I&#8217;m saying is you can&#8217;t ascribe your values in tone and writing to a Christian in another culture.  </p>
<p>As for Paul, I&#8217;m not ascribing anything from him to this man&#8217;s testimony.  I&#8217;m comparing your reaction to him, to that of some christians quibble about Paul&#8217;s apparent harshness and lack of Christly love.</p>
<p>Can we agree that regardless, the author was scarred by his experience within the hellhole that is Islam?</p>
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		<title>By: SCSIwuzzy</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/05/24/confession/comment-page-1/#comment-45110</link>
		<dc:creator>SCSIwuzzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2005 23:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy,
&quot;&lt;em&gt;Thatâ€™s almost like equating someoneâ€™s relish for eating puppies as a measure of their barbarity.&lt;/em&gt;&quot;

Where does blending them into energy drinks fall on that continuum?

Stephen,
More and more folks from the middle east are learning their english from yanks.  Either from American workers, at American Univs or from sat. TV.  Esp if they aren&#039;t from the upper crust.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy,<br />
&#8220;<em>Thatâ€™s almost like equating someoneâ€™s relish for eating puppies as a measure of their barbarity.</em>&#8221;</p>
<p>Where does blending them into energy drinks fall on that continuum?</p>
<p>Stephen,<br />
More and more folks from the middle east are learning their english from yanks.  Either from American workers, at American Univs or from sat. TV.  Esp if they aren&#8217;t from the upper crust.</p>
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		<title>By: stephen johnson</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/05/24/confession/comment-page-1/#comment-45107</link>
		<dc:creator>stephen johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2005 23:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But Andy, you&#039;re assuming that (1) the barbarity spoke of was cultural, rather than, as the author would have it, religious; and (2)it is a sincere leap of faith to ascribe (or analogize) this document to the divine inspiration of St. Paul.
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