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		<title>By: firebird</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/05/24/young-2/comment-page-1/#comment-45787</link>
		<dc:creator>firebird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2005 03:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He commited murder and so he should never be allowed to see the light of day he should be hung from a tree i mean like they did when they had the neck tie parties from the back of a horse and with a rope and a good stout tree</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He commited murder and so he should never be allowed to see the light of day he should be hung from a tree i mean like they did when they had the neck tie parties from the back of a horse and with a rope and a good stout tree</p>
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		<title>By: leftbasher</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/05/24/young-2/comment-page-1/#comment-45126</link>
		<dc:creator>leftbasher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2005 01:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The animal should have been in prison. 

There&#039;s a 17 year old who raped and left a little girl for dead in a dumpster. He put cement blocks on her. 

Thanks to the infinite wisdom of the Supreme Court he won&#039;t get the death penalty because it&#039;s cruel and unusual. Unlike what he did to that child.</description>
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<p>There&#8217;s a 17 year old who raped and left a little girl for dead in a dumpster. He put cement blocks on her. </p>
<p>Thanks to the infinite wisdom of the Supreme Court he won&#8217;t get the death penalty because it&#8217;s cruel and unusual. Unlike what he did to that child.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2005 19:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glamchild, what&#039;s that verse about Man being wise in their own eyes! 

That&#039;s the problem with the liberal tendency to fix man&#039;s problems with man-made solutions. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glamchild, what&#8217;s that verse about Man being wise in their own eyes! </p>
<p>That&#8217;s the problem with the liberal tendency to fix man&#8217;s problems with man-made solutions. <img src='http://lashawnbarber.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Glamchild</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glamchild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2005 16:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Psychology is a farce, as far as I&#039;m concerned&quot;----Dan

Dan, you are quite right.  And, there is some scientific evidence to back that up. I suggest you read some of Thomas Szasz. He&#039;s on the Internet.  Dr. Szasz (I hope I&#039;m spelling that correctly) is a psychiatrist who blew the lid off all the psychiatric games the Mental Health Community plays.

Much of Psychology says you don&#039;t have a choice.  

It&#039;s not your fault.

You couldn&#039;t help yourself.

That&#039;s the sham of the Mental Health Community, and their philosophies.  And, it&#039;s in direct contradiction to the Judeo-Christian Bible, which says we do have a choice, and can always choose between good and evil.

Not all psychology is bad, though.  Christian counseling, coaching, mentorships, groups......are great.

Unfortunately the mainstream Mental Health Community has written off all of those things, above, and instead, has become obsessed with normalizing deviant behavior so they can drug everyone----and have even less accountability.

IMHO IMHO IMHO

Sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Psychology is a farce, as far as I&#8217;m concerned&#8221;&#8212;-Dan</p>
<p>Dan, you are quite right.  And, there is some scientific evidence to back that up. I suggest you read some of Thomas Szasz. He&#8217;s on the Internet.  Dr. Szasz (I hope I&#8217;m spelling that correctly) is a psychiatrist who blew the lid off all the psychiatric games the Mental Health Community plays.</p>
<p>Much of Psychology says you don&#8217;t have a choice.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not your fault.</p>
<p>You couldn&#8217;t help yourself.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the sham of the Mental Health Community, and their philosophies.  And, it&#8217;s in direct contradiction to the Judeo-Christian Bible, which says we do have a choice, and can always choose between good and evil.</p>
<p>Not all psychology is bad, though.  Christian counseling, coaching, mentorships, groups&#8230;&#8230;are great.</p>
<p>Unfortunately the mainstream Mental Health Community has written off all of those things, above, and instead, has become obsessed with normalizing deviant behavior so they can drug everyone&#8212;-and have even less accountability.</p>
<p>IMHO IMHO IMHO</p>
<p>Sad.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2005 15:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dell,

Even at 12 I knew right from wrong. And guess what, my parents were divorced, living in seperate states and gasp! My Mom had to work to support my brother and I. This from the time I was 5. I *KNEW* right from wrong. WITHOUT parental guidance. I KNEW killing ANYONE was wrong. Psychology is a farce, as far as I&#039;m concerned, used by the liberal elite to condone their behaviour when it&#039;s morally and ethically repugnant...&quot;oh, it&#039;s not his fault because&quot; add your favorite defense there. Abused by parents, neglected by parents, no friends, etc etc....Bipolar, etc...

Whatever, it&#039;s all garbage. I can forgive him for his behaviour, but that doesn&#039;t absolve him of culpability and the punishment that goes with it.

He DESERVES HARSH punishment, moreso for killing the child than for the robbery ...But the robbery exacerbates the situation and he deserves MORE punishment, not &quot;oh he was abused! whine whine whine, we need to understand him!&quot; ....get real. You&#039;re type cause more problems than you solve with your &#039;understanding&#039;.

Dan
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dell,</p>
<p>Even at 12 I knew right from wrong. And guess what, my parents were divorced, living in seperate states and gasp! My Mom had to work to support my brother and I. This from the time I was 5. I *KNEW* right from wrong. WITHOUT parental guidance. I KNEW killing ANYONE was wrong. Psychology is a farce, as far as I&#8217;m concerned, used by the liberal elite to condone their behaviour when it&#8217;s morally and ethically repugnant&#8230;&#8221;oh, it&#8217;s not his fault because&#8221; add your favorite defense there. Abused by parents, neglected by parents, no friends, etc etc&#8230;.Bipolar, etc&#8230;</p>
<p>Whatever, it&#8217;s all garbage. I can forgive him for his behaviour, but that doesn&#8217;t absolve him of culpability and the punishment that goes with it.</p>
<p>He DESERVES HARSH punishment, moreso for killing the child than for the robbery &#8230;But the robbery exacerbates the situation and he deserves MORE punishment, not &#8220;oh he was abused! whine whine whine, we need to understand him!&#8221; &#8230;.get real. You&#8217;re type cause more problems than you solve with your &#8216;understanding&#8217;.</p>
<p>Dan</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2005 15:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With reference to the intelligence factor, I was indeed saddened back then that a 12-year old imitating big time wrestling couldn&#039;t perceive that body slams could be lethal.  

I don&#039;t even let my kids watch that silliness -- nevertheless, my 6 year-old son manages to find stupid &amp; painful things to do to his siblings without realizing the consequences due to some idea he picked up from the neighborhood.  But granted, given his present intelligence, there would be no excuse for my boy were he to pull something similar at age 12.

I felt that if that kid really didn&#039;t know what he was doing due to mental impairment equal to that of a 6 or 7 year-old, then putting him in jail wasn&#039;t really justice.   All the same, putting a &quot;retarded&quot; boy with hardened criminals, are we surprised when this happens?  Also, how did the boy get his hand on a gun? 

But I also picked up on MSM snippets that the IQ deal was a defense ploy.  But not &quot;knowing&quot; the truth and all the facts, I could only shrug my shoulders and hope for the best.

Apparently, the jury cut thru the smoke and mirrors and properly convicted the 12-year old.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With reference to the intelligence factor, I was indeed saddened back then that a 12-year old imitating big time wrestling couldn&#8217;t perceive that body slams could be lethal.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t even let my kids watch that silliness &#8212; nevertheless, my 6 year-old son manages to find stupid &amp; painful things to do to his siblings without realizing the consequences due to some idea he picked up from the neighborhood.  But granted, given his present intelligence, there would be no excuse for my boy were he to pull something similar at age 12.</p>
<p>I felt that if that kid really didn&#8217;t know what he was doing due to mental impairment equal to that of a 6 or 7 year-old, then putting him in jail wasn&#8217;t really justice.   All the same, putting a &#8220;retarded&#8221; boy with hardened criminals, are we surprised when this happens?  Also, how did the boy get his hand on a gun? </p>
<p>But I also picked up on MSM snippets that the IQ deal was a defense ploy.  But not &#8220;knowing&#8221; the truth and all the facts, I could only shrug my shoulders and hope for the best.</p>
<p>Apparently, the jury cut thru the smoke and mirrors and properly convicted the 12-year old.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Roberts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2005 04:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rafael-
Well said. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rafael-<br />
Well said.</p>
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		<title>By: DarkStar</title>
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		<dc:creator>DarkStar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2005 03:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something is not &quot;right&quot; with him. 
He must do time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something is not &#8220;right&#8221; with him.<br />
He must do time.</p>
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		<title>By: Rafael Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rafael Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2005 03:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There seems to be a serious lack of understanding about forgiveness. It is, first of all, a totally selfless act. It is an act of love. It doesn&#039;t erase whatever wrong has been done. Young Mr. Tate is going to have to face the consequences of his actions. That is just and right. Forgiveness doesn&#039;t remove punishment or abolish the need for justice. (A born-again believer should understand that even though his/her sins have been forgiven, there was a price paid for them. That forgiveness wasn&#039;t free.)

I dare say that for human beings, forgiveness--the singular act of forgiving--is more important for the forgiver than the forgiven. Why let anything cause you to become bitter? Harboring unforgiveness can breed hate. Why should you carry that in your heart? 

I know what I am talking about scripturally and experientially. I could have chosen to hate the man who murdered my uncle in cold blood for NO reason. I could have exacted revenge on him and may have even gotten away with it. I thank God for showing me that would serve no purpose. I forgave him. In doing so, I spared myself a life of grief.

So no, forgiveness isn&#039;t some sort of rented tux. It is one of the bedrocks of my Messianic (you&#039;d call it Judeo-Christian) faith. Had God chosen not to provide a vehicle for my salvation in Jesus, I&#039;d be hopeless. In Jesus&#039; life, death and resurrection, there is forgiveness of sin. He paid the price for my forgiveness. So I can&#039;t begin to regard such an act of love as insignificant by failing to imitate it in my own life.

Bible reading isn&#039;t the hard part: it is bible LIVING that is the issue. Bible LOVING causes folks to faint. Without it forgiveness is FOREIGN. Forgiveness and logic are often complete strangers, just as logic and love are.

So, Mr. Tate will have to deal with his actions. Personally, I will be praying for his redemption, no matter what the court ultimately decides. Why? Because, if not for the GRACE of God, I could have been in an even worse scenario. You too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There seems to be a serious lack of understanding about forgiveness. It is, first of all, a totally selfless act. It is an act of love. It doesn&#8217;t erase whatever wrong has been done. Young Mr. Tate is going to have to face the consequences of his actions. That is just and right. Forgiveness doesn&#8217;t remove punishment or abolish the need for justice. (A born-again believer should understand that even though his/her sins have been forgiven, there was a price paid for them. That forgiveness wasn&#8217;t free.)</p>
<p>I dare say that for human beings, forgiveness&#8211;the singular act of forgiving&#8211;is more important for the forgiver than the forgiven. Why let anything cause you to become bitter? Harboring unforgiveness can breed hate. Why should you carry that in your heart? </p>
<p>I know what I am talking about scripturally and experientially. I could have chosen to hate the man who murdered my uncle in cold blood for NO reason. I could have exacted revenge on him and may have even gotten away with it. I thank God for showing me that would serve no purpose. I forgave him. In doing so, I spared myself a life of grief.</p>
<p>So no, forgiveness isn&#8217;t some sort of rented tux. It is one of the bedrocks of my Messianic (you&#8217;d call it Judeo-Christian) faith. Had God chosen not to provide a vehicle for my salvation in Jesus, I&#8217;d be hopeless. In Jesus&#8217; life, death and resurrection, there is forgiveness of sin. He paid the price for my forgiveness. So I can&#8217;t begin to regard such an act of love as insignificant by failing to imitate it in my own life.</p>
<p>Bible reading isn&#8217;t the hard part: it is bible LIVING that is the issue. Bible LOVING causes folks to faint. Without it forgiveness is FOREIGN. Forgiveness and logic are often complete strangers, just as logic and love are.</p>
<p>So, Mr. Tate will have to deal with his actions. Personally, I will be praying for his redemption, no matter what the court ultimately decides. Why? Because, if not for the GRACE of God, I could have been in an even worse scenario. You too.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Roberts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2005 02:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LB-
I think most of us are tired of forgiveness being used like a rented tux.  People cheapen it by equating it to a free pass to continue bad behavior, and when they use it to mean that it replaces consequences for poor choices.

A little more Bible reading would help people out, but that&#039;s a little too hard to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LB-<br />
I think most of us are tired of forgiveness being used like a rented tux.  People cheapen it by equating it to a free pass to continue bad behavior, and when they use it to mean that it replaces consequences for poor choices.</p>
<p>A little more Bible reading would help people out, but that&#8217;s a little too hard to do.</p>
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		<title>By: DoubleU</title>
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		<dc:creator>DoubleU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2005 01:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>South Florida is a very liberal area, they want to release every criminal.  (This is the area that had the problems in 2000)  I am sure they are already trying to figure out how to free the 17-year-old who raped the eight year old and put her in a dumpster.  The paper already mentioned how the guy had a hard upbringing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>South Florida is a very liberal area, they want to release every criminal.  (This is the area that had the problems in 2000)  I am sure they are already trying to figure out how to free the 17-year-old who raped the eight year old and put her in a dumpster.  The paper already mentioned how the guy had a hard upbringing.</p>
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		<title>By: Doc Rampage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doc Rampage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2005 00:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I propose a rule, that when a judge (or governor) reduces the sentence of a guy like this for any reason other than strong evidence of innocence, then the person who reduced the sentence should have to live with the person for a year. The state will pay rent for a spare room in the judge&#039;s house.

Let&#039;s see how eager they are to let violent criminals go when they have to live with the consequences of their high-minded attitudes.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I propose a rule, that when a judge (or governor) reduces the sentence of a guy like this for any reason other than strong evidence of innocence, then the person who reduced the sentence should have to live with the person for a year. The state will pay rent for a spare room in the judge&#8217;s house.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see how eager they are to let violent criminals go when they have to live with the consequences of their high-minded attitudes.</p>
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		<title>By: La Shawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>La Shawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2005 00:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s the nature of the politically correct beast, David.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s the nature of the politically correct beast, David.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2005 00:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The kid was 12 when the young girl diedâ€¦do any of you know anything about psychological development?&quot;

I know this:  I was twelve once, and so was every other adult or teenager on planet Earth.  Twelve-year-olds play with six-year-olds all the time, without killing them.  It is not a normal phase of development for a twelve-year-old to kill a six-year-old.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The kid was 12 when the young girl diedâ€¦do any of you know anything about psychological development?&#8221;</p>
<p>I know this:  I was twelve once, and so was every other adult or teenager on planet Earth.  Twelve-year-olds play with six-year-olds all the time, without killing them.  It is not a normal phase of development for a twelve-year-old to kill a six-year-old.</p>
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		<title>By: David L</title>
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		<dc:creator>David L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2005 00:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it funny.  When it comes to employment or education the MSM denies that intelligence can be measured and denies that intelligence tests are relevant.  Yet let a perp commit a crime and all of sudden intelligence can be measured and intelligences tests are important.  Sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it funny.  When it comes to employment or education the MSM denies that intelligence can be measured and denies that intelligence tests are relevant.  Yet let a perp commit a crime and all of sudden intelligence can be measured and intelligences tests are important.  Sure.</p>
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