I took a vow not to engage in flame wars with other bloggers. What they think about the world or me specifically doesn’t interest me that much, and the back and forth bickering would be unproductive for me, although entertaining for everybody else.
As you may know, my rant against Koran “desecration” and Islamofascism got a lot of attention on both sides of the blogosphere. Many bloggers linked to it, left and right. A couple of bloggers I respected on the right criticized some of the statements I made. Their ire was raised because I’ve spoke out against Islam in general. Tell me, how many people disparage Christianity every day, several times a day? Do these same bloggers come to my defense the way they’ve jumped to the offense? Hardly. In fact, one of them mocked my faith in a post that may or may not have been parody. I shrugged it off as an aberration at the time.
I was angry when I wrote that Koran post, but I stand behind every word. Although I used “Muslims” as a general term, my focus was and is on Islamofascists, Muslims who believe they’re commanded by their god to conquer and kill unbelievers: Christians, Jews, and whoever else doesn’t believe in Allah. If saying so marks me as a religious bigot, then I’ll add the label to my collection, along with “sell out,” “race traitor,” and “House Negro.” And it won’t keep me up at night.
What makes me sick enough to vomit are not just their over-the-top tirades; it’s the way Islamofascists get a pass! Our way of life is under attack and terrorist cells exist right here on our own soil! Yet I, mere blogger, am the dangerous one. Something similar happened when I blogged about Chris Rock’s buffoonish comedy routine at the Oscars. Black libs were all over me. Rock played to the worst stereotypes. Yet I, mere blogger, was the shameful one.
I suppose that being harshly and unfairly criticized by the left and the right is some sort of perverse compliment. They obviously find me dangerous enough or misinformed enough or ignorant enough or evil enough or interesting enough to spend time blogging about my blog. I’m being intentionally vague because, as I said, I refuse to flame. Go to Technorati and look up my URL to find posts if you’re compelled.
This is how I work: If a blogger I like writes something I don’t, you won’t find any disparaging remarks about him/her or the post on this site. If it’s something I think is seriously inappropriate, I’d e-mail them. I wouldn’t dream of publicly going off. I don’t even do that to bloggers I don’t like. But that’s my style.
There’s a lesson in everything, and nothing is wasted. No matter what others write about me, they won’t deter me from standing up for what I believe is right. This I know for certain: one day we’ll all know what’s right.
Until then, we blog.
Update (6/8): Naysayers, take a memo:
I personally believe in debate, so if [La Shawn] says something I disagree with I will post my opinion, and trackback to her so that she will know I said what I said, in case she wants to defend her opinion, but I will do so respectfully.
Keep linking, leftist bloggers. With a few more links, perhaps I’ll become a Higher Being sooner than expected. Your generosity is touching. 
Update II: From reader Juan Carlos:
I’m just writing to let you know you have a fan in Guatemala. Ever since I saw what happened on the morning of 9-11, I have understood that Western civilization is at war with Islamofascism. You are one of the few people who absolutely gets it, and writes about it clearly, passionately and happily for me, frequently. You are one of the people that improves upon the human species, calling upon us all to become better people. So consider me someone who looks up to you as a positive example, not only regarding your politics, but also in what you have shared about your personal side.From what I’ve seen of you, and read of you, I find you to be a spectacularly beautiful woman [flattering comment gratuitously left in], both inside and out. If I ever get to meet you, I’ll treasure the experience.
My warmest regards,
Juan Carlos M. D.
This is what’s known as “the ideal e-mail.” 
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Bravo!
Wrong has become right and right has become wrong…
And definitely, no matter what, at all cost… DO NOT TELL THE TRUTH … it may hurt someones feelings.
My comments to you were not meant to be a flame, I hope you didn’t take them that way, and as a I said, you have the right to your own opinion. I value your opinion and consider it, I just hope you considered mine and other soldier’s viewpoints. Have a good one, LaShawn.
My Dear, I am convinced we have all traversed into the Twilight Zone. The situations we see around us are so askew as to be unbelievable in their amazing stupidity. What I hear coming from the Left (and some on the Right) astounds me with the sheer audacity of their hypocrisy and their complete willingness to lie in the face of fact.
I can’t wait for this episode to be over so I can get back to some semblance of reality.
Hang in there… and keep blogging you dangerous, dangerous lady.
Been there, done that, La Shawn…especially over the last couple of days.
The only thing you can do is stand tall and be true to yourself and your beliefs. If others don’t like it, then it’s their problem, not yours.
I don’t think you are dangerous, I actually think you are a wonderful writer.
when i was very much younger than i am now i had a reputation according to my school teachers as “the guy who calls them as he sees them” i blame my parents for that ….
its a shame we all can’t say what we mean, mean what we say, politely agree to disagree with those of other persuasions or viewpoints and NEVER NEVER compromise our principles because forbid it we “might hurt someone’s feelings”.
You shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free. Once truth is out of the way anything goes … much to my dismay.
Its a GREAT blog LaShawn … keep smiling … keep blogging … you are doing a good deed and service to a lot of us.
La Shawn,
I don’t know if I was one of the “right leaning” bloggers you refer to here, but I did trackback from my blog a bit of criticism to this recent post you speak of.
I drew no ire over your outrage, but I was concerned that by taking a bit vengeance in the form of kicking a Koran around, even to make a point, would be contrary to the teachings of Christ and of His character.
Personally, I take no issue with your criticism of Islam, nor do I take issue with you pointing out some of the absurd contradictions many of them practice in light of their teachings.
Anyway, blog on.
YBIC,
Brad
Seems like liberals don’t like it when conservatives exercise ‘free speech’, do they? Don’t sweat it, La Shawn. There will always be critics, you just got to stick to what you know and go full forward. Personally, I would like to burn a hijabb (women should not be afraid to show their hair), I’d like to burn a burka (women should not be afraid to show their faces) and I’d probably throw a Koran in there for kicks (it’s not what is in the book, it’s what is in the heart).
What is in great shortage is people who believe in the right things unapologetically. People unafraid to publically say “I am biased in the direction of life and Truth and don’t care because I know it’s right.”
I have a deep respect for that and for you La Shawn.
That means a lot, Mark. Thanks.
Hey Broken Messenger, I’d think that if a mullah was in the temple hawking the koran along with the sellers and ursurers, Jesus would have whipped him as well. What really riled up the pharisees and sadducees was that Jesus always publicly humiliated them when ever they tied to get smart with him. Yet when they asked a legitimate question, he would respectfully respond.
That would be the character of Jesus, not suffering fools quietly.
La Shawn,
I know exactly the post you are referring too. I read it earlier today and even I knew your remark was not meant in such a general way.
I thought about commenting on his site and asking if he’d bothered to mail you and ask you what you actually meant before ripping into you on his blog, but after reading the bible bashing he did in the comment section I thought why bother because it seemed obvious to me that he was looking for an excuse to kick around some Christians.
I lost a great deal of respect for that guy today.
Ian stole my thunder. I am a conservative Christian awash in a sea of liberal secularists/atheists. No disparagement can touch me…it is washed away in the blood of Christ. Bless them all.
La Shawn — Your self-assurance in the ‘rightness’ of your beliefs needs no strokes from me. You truly are a beacon for many of us who are not right-wing-whackos, but just ordinary Christians. Thank you for your voice.
God’s Word says this WILL happen to all of us who stand up for our Christian beliefs. The mere fact that non-believers and lukewarms chastise us is sweet affirmation of the Truth we seek daily through Christ.
Keep it up LB.
La Shawn,
Three umpires had a discussion:
First Umpire – “I call them as I see them”
Second Umpire – “I call them as they are”
Third Umpire – “They aint nothing until I call them.”
When I read your controversial post, I knew you’d be a target for all the self-congratulating speech police – those most willing to display their incredible tolerance with every view except the view that challenges them, that is.
I read your blog because you are a lot like Umpire 3. You make people think, and to some that is uncomfortable.
This is about taking a stand against evil. Those people used their precious Koran to justify the beheadings.
Where was all the outcry then?
Why is a desecration worse than a beheading?
Clearly Islam is not a religion of peace. As Christians, we are ordered to speak out against evil:
Ephesians 4:27—”Neither give place to the devil.
Ephesians 6:11-12 —-”Put on the whole armor of God so that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.”
Great writing! Doesn’t it just burn you when ‘liberals’ play the race game! It seems to me that so often some understand the ‘PC’ way of what to say or not to say BUT the truth is they really don’t understand anything at all!
You speak truth and that is all that matters.
I have a MA in Comparative Religion and have worked hard in my life to honor all religious traditions — and I still do, deeply. But, to be honest, my patience with the Muslim community has also worn thin over the past few years. The overt sociopathy of the Islamofascists is obviously sickening to anyone of conscience but the deafening and disproportionate silence of the majority in the Muslim community is also quite disturbing. The tacit surrender to fear of retaliation — whatever happened to real courage? — or the tacit approval of the terrorists’ aims and behavior shows, what I think ,is an all too great willingingness to overlook an obvious desecration of God’s work: the harming and killing of innocent human beings; this is due to an ultra-authoritarian streak in the Quran, a book which in itself has become an idol to many Muslims. (Killing someone over the treatment of a book is an idolatrous act and unforgiveable in my mind — even justifying or condoning this killing is beyond the pale of civility.)Unfortunately, this authoritarian streak in the Quran is what makes Islam attractive to many: it is easily interpreted this way and helps people feel a certainty not out of faith but out of zeal. Moderate and sane Muslims better get their act together and soon or Islam itself will lose any acceptance by civilized societies.
“This above all: to thine own self be true, And it must follow, as the night the day, Thou canst not then be false to any man.”
You’ve taken old Bill’s words to heart, La Shawn. That’s part of what makes you worth reading.
At first I thought the kick the Koran statement was a little over the top, but then I asked what would Jesus do? I think he would condemn the Koran vigorously. Jesus was not a weak man. After all he got extremely angry at the money changers in the Temple, twice! I look with wonder at those who say, “that’s not a Christian attitude.” I wonder what they would say in their political correctness when told that Jesus said the only way to heaven is by Him and that those who don’t accept Jesus as their loving Savior, go to the other place.
I really enjoy the sincere and truthful thinking that I’ve read on your blog. I think some of the “flame wars” are a negative biproduct of the relative anonimity (sp) of the blog world.
And to that end, I have deep respect for 1) how you put your real name behind your posts (not some blog psuedo-name), and 2) how you stand for truth in what you say, and then stand behind what you say. I haven’t agreed with all of your thoughts, but you’ve stirred my own thinking, which I value and respect.
Hi La Shawn
I contacted you personally because last time I looked at your blog the comments on this matter was closed.
I’m an atheist and I was a liberal (well I would be considered one) but the dance the left is doing with Islam and so many other matters especially in regards to freedom of speech etc is down right dangerous. I know which society I would prefer to live in. The one eyedness astounds me
O God, who created all peoples in your image, we thank you for the wonderful diversity of races and cultures in this world. Enrich our lives by ever-widening circles of fellowship, and show us your presence in those who differ most from us, until our knowledge of your love is made perfect in our love for all your children; through Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen. Peter Marshall
Interestingly, faith is mistaken for pride or arrogance by some people. Both can cause a person to be bold and confident. How can you tell the difference?
* The focus of the person’s speech and how they treat other people. They believe are persecuted and delight in this as they are spiritually doing something right.
If their speech focuses on themselves, or another human, it is pride. If it is on God, it is faith. The other outward actions may be similar, but the speech will be different.
*A proud person treats other people with indifference — only using them.
The person of faith will walk in love — because faith works by love. The person of faith will honor and prefer the other person above their own self.
One of the drawbacks of allowing public comments is that people are compelled to share their opinions. This comment, while I disagree with the assessment, is an ideal one for private correspondence between Christians. The commenter chose instead to publicly chastise. Just as he lectures others about pride, he could use a dose of his own advice. Pride, in its many forms, is just like anything else. An excessive amount is destructive; used in moderation, it has it’s benefits. I deeply resent when Christians publicly criticize me for calling a thing what it is and attributing my motives to pride and questioning my faith. Just as Jesus was righteously indignant that the money changers turned His Father’s house into a den of thieves, I am also angry when my beliefs and my God become the targets of mockery and scorn.
I sincerely hope you spend as much time preaching about God’s wrath as you do about “walking in love.” I doubt you do. God embodies both of these attributes and so much more, including love for the truth and hatred of lies. – Admin
“As you may know, my rant against Koran “desecration†and Islamofascism got a lot of attention on both sides of the blogosphere.”
My favorite was how you were tired of hearing about a subject that the right wing blogs started up. But then they started pooh pooh’ing the topic once it moved from ‘irresponsible newsweek’ to ‘it did happen.’
“Although I used “Muslims†as a general term, my focus was and is on Islamofascists, Muslims who believe they’re commanded by their god to conquer and kill unbelievers: Christians, Jews, and whoever else doesn’t believe in Allah. If saying so marks me as a religious bigot, then I’ll add the label to my collection, along with “sell out,†“race traitor,†and “House Negro.†And it won’t keep me up at night.”
I don’t think that being against inslamofascists per-se makes you a bigot. But using the word muslim in exchange for that does.
Now you know.
Well, thank you for that all-important proclamation! One correction: The problem with Newsweek was its reporting an anonymous, unconfirmed, and INFLAMMATORY story, which they had more than enough reason to know would spark even more resentment. “Right wing blogs” righteously focused on that. I NEVER claimed that the story wasn’t true or that I was “tired” of hearing it; in fact, if you recall, I said Newsweek should not have reported it even IF true. What I’m “tired” of is the anti-American propaganda emanating from American newspapers!
Actus, I’ll tell you, my tolerance level for you is very low today. – Admin
Hi LaShawn
First, allow me to thank you for the silent delinking. I notice that ***, who really went after your faith (via the Bible) in his own comments is still on there. I imagine he sends more traffic your way though, so all is forgiven. I’m nothing if not magnanimous!
Second, it’d be swell if you’d not conflate the issue of saying all Muslims want to kill and conquer with the issue of whether or not “abusing” the Koran was wrong.
You made a broad and sweeping generalization about all Muslims which basically undercut the reasoning behind everything we’re trying to do in Iraq. I mean, honestly, why should we try to bring democracy and acceptance on the world stage to all those murderous Muslims?
Your attempt at covering yourself by saying you meant “Islamofascists” is half-hearted at best. Rather than say “I should have said Islamofascists,” you instead make it our fault for not knowing you didn’t really mean all Muslims (even though, uh, that’s what you said, quite plainly).
As for kicking the Koran, knock yourself out. It’s just a book, no more important to me than the Oxford English Dictionary, the Holy Bible, or On the Origin of Species. However, given the situation in which we find ourselves, perhaps a little diplomacy and lack of outright disrespect for the religion is called for, no? I don’t care if it offends a terrorist; I do care if it offends a moderate and turns them into one. In short – just because we can, doesn’t mean we should.
Besides, we’ll have plenty of time for Koran-kicking once we invade all their countries and turn them into Christians. (a reading from the Book of Ann)
I think gradiose de-linking announcements are juvenile, so I’m trying to use discretion. I have a big blogroll and plan to de-link several others bloggers who’ve insulted me. Yours by far won’t be the only one. Traffic is the least of my concerns. If it were, you’d see links to Daily Kos, Oliver Willis, Andrew Sullivan, Al Franken’s blog, and a few foul-mouthed, high-traffic liberal bloggers, but you don’t.
The Koran posts and subsequent comments speak for themselves, and I won’t defend myself against superfluous charges. You are certainly entitled to your opinion and to express it in this democracy, and so am I. I’m allowing your comment to remain. You’ve had your say, now move on. – Admin.
Great post. I linked it to my blog.
“INFLAMMATORY story”
I know. And that’s what’s being pooh pooh’ed now with the “its just a book” line.
I feel I ought to step forward as one of those wh offered criticism of your position. One blogger criticizing another’s statements is hardly news – that’s part of this strange activity, isn’t it? I’m surprised you’re so sensitive! Unless you’re going to give us links to follow, how can we judge whether you’re being unfairly criticized? (I did look at technorati, but it is being very slow, and life is too short!)
I’m a bit disappointed that you stand by every word of your post. There was a point here where I thought you might be softening your position just a bit. But if you stick by your statement “Muslims are and have always been on a mission to conquer and kill infidels. They’ve been doing it for centuries and will continue until we’re all dead, or they’re all dead, or the world ends, whichever comes first” then we’ll have to agree to differ. Likewise the “liberalism is a mental disorder” crack. But equating “muslim” with “terrorists who happen to be muslim” is just plain wrong. And I’m sure you wouldn’t appreciate it if I were to write on my blog “All conservatives are loonies.” Dismissing all liberal opinion as the product of a deranged mentality is just a teeny bit patronizing. (I know, because my voices said so)
See previous Koran posts for comment. And check Technorati for links to the bloggers (it’s so simple, a child could do it). Linking would cause unnecessary flame wars, and I’m not interested, as I’ve explained ad nauseum. I can’t believe so many bloggers care what I think! I’m flattered, but there are thousands of other things more important than blogging about me. – Admin
La Shawn,
Keep it coming (this is great). I love how your point just keeps getting proven over and over again.
LaShawn,
That’s why I keep coming to your site. You speak your mind as you see the situation.
Keep doing what’s right, telling the truth.
To be honest, people know the generalizations, they just look for something to be ‘offended’ about so they can get their way. Don’t let them.
Dan
I support you entirely Lashawn and so do my brothers who read you. We’re black. Why is it ok for muslims to riot and kill when they think their religion has been insulted or even if it really has been insulted. When the musuem in Brooklyn had Mary decorated with dung did catholics or christians riot and burn down the building? Why is it that liberals and most black people believe that muslims have no obligation to be liberal or tolerant. Why is it somehow acceptable for them to enslave and kill black people? Ever since September 11, I have been getting more and more conservative. I can’t get over all the black people I know who seem to really believe that for muslims to attack the US is somehow to our benefit? Keep up the good work. Don’t let them scare you. My family and I support you.
“I can’t get over all the black people I know who seem to really believe that for muslims to attack the US is somehow to our benefit?”
Amen Anita.
One need only look at the Sudan to see the fallacy of that thought process.
La Shawn,
My respect and admiration for you and your blogwork has grown ten-fold. This, and other recent posts have re-enforced the fact that you are not a “passive” Christian. It’s one of many reasons why your blog for me is a daily read.
Those that are anti-God, anti-American, liberals, exposed “fake” christians, and all the other vessels of satan expect “followers of Christ” to be forever cheek-turning apologetic wimps. Not me, not at LB’s, not ever.
Thanks for your support, Dave. Going against the grain isn’t easy, and I’m catching it from all sides. But no one will ever be able to describe me as a “passive Christian.” I’m bold about most things, including the Gospel.
Thanks La Shawn, for your wonderful blog, for sharing your thoughts and views.
I agreed completely with your “kick the koran” post.
Paul said in Ephesians 4:26 “Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath”
I believe this describes righteous anger, such as Christ displayed in rousting out the fakirs in the Holy Temple.
I believe this sort of “righteous anger” absolutely fits this situation. I feel like flushing some korans myself.
It is amazing to know that so much hatred can spewed in the name of God. I’ve studied some aspect of Christianity and Muslim history and I can say that many have died and suffered at the hands of followers of both faiths. I have a 17 year old cousin who is a Muslim…
The Muslim men and Baptist preachers that make up a part of my family never had any issues. I never heard my Uncle who is a Baptist minister rile another uncle who was a Muslim. Not that the celebrated the holidays together, but both attended family gathering and my cousins got along just fine. So forgive me if I find it hard to support the the desecration of a religious book. And I find the tone of some of you “Christian Folk” to be one that I’ve never saw in my upbringing. I know that there are some Islamic extremist but there are some Christian extremist (see Ireland) but it seems ignorant to think that desecrating a symbol of a religion is something to support.
Post edited to remove offensive statement. Your grasp of sarcasm and justified anger is very weak; consequently, it seems as if you haven’t read my post at all, only comments about it. As a reminder, this blog is a dictatorship, not a democracy. The only free speech protected on it is mine. – Admin
James if you read the Pentagon report you will find that five very minor cases of disrespect to the Koran by the guards (and one of them may have been done by the inmate), and 15 much worse cases of disrespect of the Koran by the inmates.
How many times have you heard Muslims complaining about the distortion and abuse of Islam that these Islamofascists are doing to their faith. Yes there are some in Ireland doing evil things supposedly because of their Catholic faith, but as far as I know, the Vatican does not condone what they did. There may have been some official support for the Crusades 1,000 years ago, but Pope John Paul reached out to Jews, Moslems, and Eastern Orthodox Christians to try to heal the wounds of past conflicts. And I have no reason to believe the new Pope is not going to continue that effort.
How many Moslem Clerics have stood up and denounced what the Islamofascists have done and said?
First, I read your post and I disagreed with you. Second, I didn’t make any offensive statements in my post so you had no reason to edited. But, hey, its your world.
Disclaimer: I ain’t that ‘Andy’ in #29
Don – I agree that extremist are giving all folowers of Islam a black eye. And I am not against treating them as criminals. There are many things about the interpretaions of Islam that I find disturbing. Honor Killings and the suppression of women along with the extremist and their hatred for western culture are things that Muslims should speak out against. I just don’t think Christians should respond likewise.
Andy,
As to your comment: “Hey Broken Messenger, I’d think that if a mullah was in the temple hawking the koran along with the sellers and ursurers, Jesus would have whipped him as well. What really riled up the pharisees and sadducees was that Jesus always publicly humiliated them when ever they tied to get smart with him. Yet when they asked a legitimate question, he would respectfully respond.
That would be the character of Jesus, not suffering fools quietly. “
Andy, Jesus didn’t whip anyone, including the Pharisees. He drove merchants from the temple using a whip, but the Bible no where speaks of Jesus actually striking anyone during His earthly ministry. What Jesus does advocate is to love our neighbor and even our enemy, Matt. 5:39-44, which is what I was urging La Shawn to do in terms of kicking around a Koran. As to criticism, you clearly didn’t read my post…
You gotta luv that seeker friendly message
James, if I took everything that I ever saw that was said by Muslims about Christians and ranked it from 0 (totally disrespectful) to 100 (totally respectful) I believe that 99% of it would range from 0 to 5, and the remaining 1% would be distributed evenly from 6 to 100.
If I similarly took everyting that I ever saw that was said by Christians about Muslims, I believe that LaShawn’s comments would fall about the 85 range. Certainly some have said things more respectful of Muslims in general, including President Bush and Pope John Paul, but there have been a lot more that was a lot less respectful said by good Christians.
After all, we know how Jesus wanted us to treat others, but we dont all do it all the time, even though we may try.
And I was to rate how pious Christians were, I would have to say that I believe that LaShawn would rate higher than I would.
Ask your 17 year old cousin if he can point me to leaders in his church that have publically urged everyone to follow what is said in Qur’an 3:3 “It is He Who sent down to thee (step by step), in truth, the Book, confirming what went before it; and He sent down the Law (of Moses) and the Gospel (of Jesus) before this, as a guide to mankind, and He sent down the criterion (of judgment between right and wrong)” and Qur’an 2:136 “Say ye: “We believe in Allah, and the revelation given to us, and to Abraham, Isma’il, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and that given to Moses and Jesus, and that given to (all) prophets from their Lord: We make no difference between one and another of them” and who preaches that we are all “People of the Book” (or ahl al Kitâb) as it says in Qur’an 3:64 “O People of the Book! Let us rally to a common formula to be binding on both us and you: That we worship none but God; that we associate no partners with Him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, Lords and patrons other than God.”
Don – My cousin is a she but you wouldn’t know that because my post was edited. Anyway, I don’t think my cousin could do that as she but she could probably tell you what her father says… and he doesn’t preach hate whatsoever. What LaShawn wrote was not disrespectful but I just don’t get what satisfaction one could get by desecrating the Koran. I think the same way about burning the flag… why would anyone in their right mind want to waste their time burning a flag?
And for the record, I am well aware of the things said about Christianity by Muslims… and the opportunities I get to call someone on their ignorance, I do.
>>Yet I, mere blogger, am the dangerous one. Something similar happened when I blogged about Chris Rock’s buffoonish comedy routine at the Oscars. Black libs were all over me. Rock played to the worst stereotypes.
Hm. Didn’t go through. I’ll try again.
I doubt that anyone would’ve “attacked” you if you had actually *watched* the Oscar telecast before making a post that criticized his “buffonish behavior.” It’s like reviewing a book when you’ve only read the inside jacket.
Unfortunately I’ve seen Rock’s act several times. With those images seared on my brain, along with video clips, my opinion of his act was spot-on. Naysayers will use any excuse to criticize me; the fact that I didn’t watch the whole smut show is merely a handy excuse. Do you think, for one nanosecond, that had I watched it I wouldn’t have been jumped on.
Don’t answer that. It’s rhetorical.
You know I stand with you on that one, too, La Shawn. Well, both – the Koran and Rock.
Broken Messenger, what is ‘drove’?
Gen 3:24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.
Num 21:32 And Moses sent to spy out Jaazer, and they took the villages1323 thereof, and drove out the Amorites that were there.
Jdg 6:9 And I delivered you out of the hand of the Egyptians, and out of the hand of all that oppressed you, and drove them out from before you, and gave you their land;
Pro 26:3 A whip for the horse, a bridle for the ass, and a rod for the fool’s back.
Hab 3:6 He stood, and measured the earth: he beheld, and drove asunder the nations; and the everlasting mountains were scattered, the perpetual hills did bow: his ways are everlasting.
Joh 2:15 (Matt 21:12, Mark 11:15 And when he had made a scourge of1537 small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the3588 changers’ money, and overthrew the tables;
Act 18:16 And he drove them from the judgment seat.
Heb 12:6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
Go ahead and look them up for context.
I don’t know about you but that sounds ‘violent’ to me and under our rules, Jesus would have been charged with vandalism & hate crimes. Simply put, I wouldn’t want to be on the driven end of Jesus’ wrath & fury.
I used Peter Marshall who was Senate chaplain during WWII.
I’m sorry if you see that as critical, personal, chastising and offensive. It was not posted to offend you, your other commenters might find use of it on their blogs someday. Marshall contributed the how of faith during a critical time in US history.
No win, no win. If you see comments as a personal attack or persecution and exercise a need to self-defend when there is no intent of harm, it is incumbant on one party to unilaterally disengage.
Thank you for your time.
I’m gone.
La Shawn,
Tried to send a trackback, but got denied. Am I doing something wrong?
–Thierrion
Thierrion – You’re using HaloScan, which doesn’t like my blog.
Try Simpletracks:
http://kalsey.com/tools/trackback/
#27 Actus,
Was it muslims who rioted and killed after the Newsweek story or not?
Must one always label the rioters Islamofacists or be called a bigot by you?
Definition of bigot is – a prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his own.
La Shawn simply wrote her opinion which is relevant and on target. You are intolerant of her opinion making you fit the definition.
“La Shawn simply wrote her opinion which is relevant and on target. ”
She said she used the general term when her gripe was specific. That’s not on target.
OK. What was false about what she wrote.
Be on target Actus…
“OK. What was false about what she wrote.”
‘Although I used “Muslims†as a general term, my focus was and is on Islamofascists’
She used the general term (muslim) when she meant the specific (islamofascist). That’s not ‘on target.’
Still not false. Islamofascists are by definition muslim.
By comparison, ‘Republicans are white christians’ is false, while ‘moonbats are democrats’ is true.
Quit being so pedantic. Who cares if it’s a great white or a whale, you’ve done jumped your shark.
Andy, not all moonbats are democrats. What about the green party, socialist party and communist party? They may not amount to enough votes to matter, but that does not take away from their moonbat pedigree.
“Still not false. Islamofascists are by definition muslim. ”
I don’t care about false or not. I said “not on target.” Its not on target to use the general term when you mean the specific, because its overbroad.
Got me there SCSI.
Actus, now you’re positively dizzy. SCSI asked you what was false and for YOU to be on target. True or false?
“SCSI asked you what was false and for YOU to be on target. True or false?”
What’s the hangup with whats false? Are all islamofascists muslims? True. Are all muslims islamofascists? false. This is trivial. What is going is the use of the general when you mean the specific. And this is not being “on target.” its actually being overbroad.
I don’t know why he’s asking me about false or not, when I’m going on about the overbreadth.
Actually, I think it was Baklava that asked that. Any question I ask of actus is rhetorical, since I long ago stopped expecting a direct answer.
That, and my teaching experience has left me falling into socratic mode without noticing until after the fact…
“Any question I ask of actus is rhetorical, since I long ago stopped expecting a direct answer”
Are the irrelevant ones rhetorical too?
Yes, all of your questions are rhetorical as well
I’m sorry LB, I’m just having one of those incorribible ‘fish in barrel’ days.
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