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		<title>By: actus</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/06/13/miltary/comment-page-3/#comment-49901</link>
		<dc:creator>actus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Actus, check your newspaper history. WaPo and the Old Gray Lady have both historically proven themselves to be against any war or conflict we have participated in.&quot;

As far as history is concerned, the washington post wrote editorials in favor of the invasion of iraq.  The NYT, I don&#039;t know.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Actus, check your newspaper history. WaPo and the Old Gray Lady have both historically proven themselves to be against any war or conflict we have participated in.&#8221;</p>
<p>As far as history is concerned, the washington post wrote editorials in favor of the invasion of iraq.  The NYT, I don&#8217;t know.</p>
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		<title>By: Lyn</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/06/13/miltary/comment-page-3/#comment-49610</link>
		<dc:creator>Lyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a subject that inspires strong emotions.  I have read many good points, but the person who wrote that this is a complex issue with no one attributable cause makes the most sense.  There are many issues involving economics, patriotism, altruism, military interest, etc.  I do not think the negative media affects too many that would join otherwise.  The war and the prospect of getting killed or maimed gets some who are on the fence.

As for me, I stayed in after 9-11 because of a strong sense of duty to country, but mainly due to unit cohesion.  I knew that my unit needed me and I wanted to be there for them.  Now we have orders to go and I would have felt strange staying home while they went.  I have read Stephen Ambrose report that unit cohesion is what kept troops together in WWII and my own experience shows this to be true.

Another observation I have is that soldiers rarely discuss politics and that morale is high, despite what some report.  One embedded journalist commented on how one colleague spent days looking for disgruntled soldiers to interview.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a subject that inspires strong emotions.  I have read many good points, but the person who wrote that this is a complex issue with no one attributable cause makes the most sense.  There are many issues involving economics, patriotism, altruism, military interest, etc.  I do not think the negative media affects too many that would join otherwise.  The war and the prospect of getting killed or maimed gets some who are on the fence.</p>
<p>As for me, I stayed in after 9-11 because of a strong sense of duty to country, but mainly due to unit cohesion.  I knew that my unit needed me and I wanted to be there for them.  Now we have orders to go and I would have felt strange staying home while they went.  I have read Stephen Ambrose report that unit cohesion is what kept troops together in WWII and my own experience shows this to be true.</p>
<p>Another observation I have is that soldiers rarely discuss politics and that morale is high, despite what some report.  One embedded journalist commented on how one colleague spent days looking for disgruntled soldiers to interview.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Roberts</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/06/13/miltary/comment-page-3/#comment-49609</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actus, check your newspaper history.  WaPo and the Old Gray Lady have both historically proven themselves to be against any war or conflict we have participated in.  So to say that WaPo is pro-war is historically incorrect.  Their percieved actions now are merely an aberration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actus, check your newspaper history.  WaPo and the Old Gray Lady have both historically proven themselves to be against any war or conflict we have participated in.  So to say that WaPo is pro-war is historically incorrect.  Their percieved actions now are merely an aberration.</p>
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		<title>By: actus</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/06/13/miltary/comment-page-3/#comment-49510</link>
		<dc:creator>actus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Yes, actus you are appalled by the Washington Post because it is ONE small part of the MSM that doesnâ€™t toe the propaganda line of the rest of the MSM.&quot;

Was the NYT in favor of the war? I haven&#039;t looked that one up. 

&quot;I care about the NEWS PAGES. &quot;

I remember when 5 dead soldiers in a day was front page news.  not anymore. at least not at the post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Yes, actus you are appalled by the Washington Post because it is ONE small part of the MSM that doesnâ€™t toe the propaganda line of the rest of the MSM.&#8221;</p>
<p>Was the NYT in favor of the war? I haven&#8217;t looked that one up. </p>
<p>&#8220;I care about the NEWS PAGES. &#8221;</p>
<p>I remember when 5 dead soldiers in a day was front page news.  not anymore. at least not at the post.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Hamilton</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/06/13/miltary/comment-page-3/#comment-49503</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Hamilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Iâ€™m appalled that the washington post editorialized in favor of the war.&quot; actus

Who the ^^$%*&amp; cares what is said on the EDITORIAL PAGE. It is an OPINION PAGE. 

I care about the NEWS PAGES. That is what is important. That is what is appalling.

Yes, actus you are appalled by the Washington Post because it is ONE small part of the MSM that doesn&#039;t toe the propaganda line of the rest of the MSM. That is why you are appalled. They DARE to say something that you don&#039;t agree with. I don&#039;t expect anything else from the Left. Lies and propaganda. 

Thanks La Shawn.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Iâ€™m appalled that the washington post editorialized in favor of the war.&#8221; actus</p>
<p>Who the ^^$%*&amp; cares what is said on the EDITORIAL PAGE. It is an OPINION PAGE. </p>
<p>I care about the NEWS PAGES. That is what is important. That is what is appalling.</p>
<p>Yes, actus you are appalled by the Washington Post because it is ONE small part of the MSM that doesn&#8217;t toe the propaganda line of the rest of the MSM. That is why you are appalled. They DARE to say something that you don&#8217;t agree with. I don&#8217;t expect anything else from the Left. Lies and propaganda. </p>
<p>Thanks La Shawn.</p>
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		<title>By: Baklava</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/06/13/miltary/comment-page-3/#comment-49253</link>
		<dc:creator>Baklava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2005 02:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Be appalled !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Be appalled !</p>
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		<title>By: actus</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/06/13/miltary/comment-page-3/#comment-49192</link>
		<dc:creator>actus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2005 01:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan: &quot;No matter what your politics you should be appalled at the bias against the War and the military being shown by the MSM.&quot;

I&#039;m appalled that the washington post editorialized in favor of the war.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan: &#8220;No matter what your politics you should be appalled at the bias against the War and the military being shown by the MSM.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m appalled that the washington post editorialized in favor of the war.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/06/13/miltary/comment-page-3/#comment-49170</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2005 00:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#160; ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&nbsp; <img src='http://lashawnbarber.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: La Shawn</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/06/13/miltary/comment-page-3/#comment-49161</link>
		<dc:creator>La Shawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2005 00:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy, she was likely responding to something the man said, and not his condition. But let the blogger have his fun. :?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy, she was likely responding to something the man said, and not his condition. But let the blogger have his fun. <img src='http://lashawnbarber.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif' alt=':?' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/06/13/miltary/comment-page-3/#comment-49153</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2005 00:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EP, wiki&#039;s the last word?  Maybe she was responding to some wussified thing he said and not to his condition, or?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EP, wiki&#8217;s the last word?  Maybe she was responding to some wussified thing he said and not to his condition, or?</p>
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		<title>By: evangelicalprogressive</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/06/13/miltary/comment-page-3/#comment-49112</link>
		<dc:creator>evangelicalprogressive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2005 23:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course there are also people like Ann Coulter who never served their country, yet have the audacity to blame disabled veterans for what happened in Vietnam. Coulter was fired from MSNBC when she told a disabled Vietnam veteran, &quot;no wonder you guys lost&quot;&quot; (Since when did we lose that war?)


Source:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Coulter

 1996, the fledgling television network MSNBC hired Coulter as a legal correspondent and political pundit, which launched her media career. Though she was allowed to make many partisan and controversial comments as a panelist, she was fired in 1997 after an exchange with Bobby Muller, president of the Vietnam Veterans of America Foundation
(MSNBC&#039;s NewsChat, October 11, 1997).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course there are also people like Ann Coulter who never served their country, yet have the audacity to blame disabled veterans for what happened in Vietnam. Coulter was fired from MSNBC when she told a disabled Vietnam veteran, &#8220;no wonder you guys lost&#8221;" (Since when did we lose that war?)</p>
<p>Source:</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Coulter" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Coulter</a></p>
<p> 1996, the fledgling television network MSNBC hired Coulter as a legal correspondent and political pundit, which launched her media career. Though she was allowed to make many partisan and controversial comments as a panelist, she was fired in 1997 after an exchange with Bobby Muller, president of the Vietnam Veterans of America Foundation<br />
(MSNBC&#8217;s NewsChat, October 11, 1997).</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Hamilton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Hamilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liz Blair - There are a lot of us who would go if the military would have us. Many of us have served and would go back. Not our fault. Sorry, your point just doesn&#039;t make much sense.

The MSM&#039;s constant negative spin on Iraq and the military has to have an effect over time. It always does. And it is a lie. No matter what your politics you should be appalled at the bias against the War and the military being shown by the MSM. 

I have seen this before. In the late 60&#039;s. North Viet Nam has stated in their war museums that the American Press and the Anti-war groups were a great help to them. The MSM lied then and is lying now. How? They lied by OMISSION, always the best way for propaganda. By ONLY reporting the BAD. NEVER reporting the good. NEVER reporting the evil done by the enemy but blow anything done by the US all out of proportion. The MSM and the Anti-War people think that it worked once it will work again.

Sorry. The MSM isn&#039;t what it was in the late 60&#039;s , earily 70&#039;s. It is no longer the ONLY source. This time it will FAIL. But it cannot help but have some effect. Part of that effect is to effect the parents of would be recuits as well as the recuits themselves. 

The MSM is trying to repeat its victory in Viet Nam against the US and the military. This time they will FAIL.

And for all of you libs who doen&#039;t believe that the MSM back then helped lose Viet Nam. I was there. I saw it. And the Government of Viet Nam agrees with ME. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liz Blair &#8211; There are a lot of us who would go if the military would have us. Many of us have served and would go back. Not our fault. Sorry, your point just doesn&#8217;t make much sense.</p>
<p>The MSM&#8217;s constant negative spin on Iraq and the military has to have an effect over time. It always does. And it is a lie. No matter what your politics you should be appalled at the bias against the War and the military being shown by the MSM. </p>
<p>I have seen this before. In the late 60&#8217;s. North Viet Nam has stated in their war museums that the American Press and the Anti-war groups were a great help to them. The MSM lied then and is lying now. How? They lied by OMISSION, always the best way for propaganda. By ONLY reporting the BAD. NEVER reporting the good. NEVER reporting the evil done by the enemy but blow anything done by the US all out of proportion. The MSM and the Anti-War people think that it worked once it will work again.</p>
<p>Sorry. The MSM isn&#8217;t what it was in the late 60&#8217;s , earily 70&#8217;s. It is no longer the ONLY source. This time it will FAIL. But it cannot help but have some effect. Part of that effect is to effect the parents of would be recuits as well as the recuits themselves. </p>
<p>The MSM is trying to repeat its victory in Viet Nam against the US and the military. This time they will FAIL.</p>
<p>And for all of you libs who doen&#8217;t believe that the MSM back then helped lose Viet Nam. I was there. I saw it. And the Government of Viet Nam agrees with ME.</p>
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		<title>By: actus</title>
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		<dc:creator>actus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Iâ€™m sure somebody has the footage of ABC, CBS, NBC and CNN losing it Nov 3 2000 and 2004&quot;

An interesting comparison.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Iâ€™m sure somebody has the footage of ABC, CBS, NBC and CNN losing it Nov 3 2000 and 2004&#8243;</p>
<p>An interesting comparison.</p>
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		<title>By: SCSIwuzzy</title>
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		<dc:creator>SCSIwuzzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure somebody has the footage of ABC, CBS, NBC and CNN losing it Nov 3 2000 and 2004 ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure somebody has the footage of ABC, CBS, NBC and CNN losing it Nov 3 2000 and 2004 <img src='http://lashawnbarber.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: actus</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/06/13/miltary/comment-page-3/#comment-48872</link>
		<dc:creator>actus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2005 12:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The situation in the mass media is deteriorating. They are getting more and more hysterical as the days pass.&quot;

The daily show had great clips of the foxnews people losing it after the michael jackson verdict.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The situation in the mass media is deteriorating. They are getting more and more hysterical as the days pass.&#8221;</p>
<p>The daily show had great clips of the foxnews people losing it after the michael jackson verdict.</p>
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