>>>Cobra, you’re a Black Christian? It’s not evident from your works of art — fruits and all.”

In what chapter and verse did Jesus give his opinion on editorial cartoonists? And exactly what is “anti-Christian” about my cartoons? Anti-conservative? Well…I can’t say I’m TOTALLY unbiased.

http://www.thecobraslair.com/National%20Issues7.html

Heck, I even smack around Democrats every now and then.

http://www.thecobraslair.com/National%20Issues8.html

–Cobra

>>>And when Slick Willie bombed an aspirin factory (another “wag the dog” scenario) and killed civilians, on the premise that Osama bin Laden was connected to it, which he wasn’t, they had no harsh words for their feckless and faithless master.”

Reading from the article you cite from CNN in 2000–

>>>Of course, the U.S. doesn’t glibly fire cruise missiles at a factory in a far-off country. The decision was taken against the backdrop of the pressure to retaliate for the embassy strike, very real concerns that bin Laden might be planning further attacks using chemical weapons, Sudan’s history as a haven for terrorists (including bin Laden) and evidence that bin Laden had sought to develop chemical weapons there. All of that, and a soil sample showing traces of a nerve gas building block…
The administration’s position was summed up a month after the missile strike by National Security Adviser Sandy Berger: “With the knowledge that we had… had we not hit that target and had bin Laden used chemical weapons in a terrorist attack, I don’t know how we could have looked the American people in the face.”
http://edition.cnn.com/2000/WORLD/africa/07/28/factory7_28.a.tm/

And this from the BIPARTISAN 9/11 COMMISSION REPORT.
>>>Considerable debate went to the question of whether to strike targets outside of Afghanistan, including two facilities in Sudan. One was a tannery believed to belong to Bin Ladin.The other was al Shifa, a Khartoum pharmaceutical plant, which intelligence reports said was manufacturing a precursor ingredient for nerve gas with Bin Ladin’s financial support.The argument for hitting the tannery was that it could hurt Bin Ladin financially. The argument for hitting al Shifa was that it would lessen the chance of Bin Ladin’s having nerve gas for a later attack.42 Ever since March 1995, American officials had had in the backs of their minds Aum Shinrikyo’s release of sarin nerve gas in the Tokyo subway. President Clinton himself had expressed great concern about chemical and biological terrorism in the United States. Bin Ladin had reportedly been heard to speak of wanting a “Hiroshima”and at least 10,000 casualties.The CIA reported 116 THE 9/11 COMMISSION REPORT that a soil sample from the vicinity of the al Shifa plant had tested positive for EMPTA, a precursor chemical for VX,a nerve gas whose lone use was for mass killing.Two days before the embassy bombings, Clarke’s staff wrote that Bin Ladin “has invested in and almost certainly has access to VX produced at a plant in Sudan.”43 Senior State Department officials believed that they had received a similar verdict independently, though they and Clarke’s staff were probably relying on the same report. Mary McCarthy, the NSC senior director responsible for intelligence programs, initially cautioned Berger that the “bottom line” was that “we will need much better intelligence on this facility before we seriously consider any options.” She added that the link between Bin Ladin and al Shifa was “rather uncertain at this point.” Berger has told us that he thought about what might happen if the decision went against hitting al Shifa, and nerve gas was used in a New York subway two weeks later.44 By the early hours of the morning of August 20, President Clinton and all his principal advisers had agreed to strike Bin Ladin camps in Afghanistan near Khowst, as well as hitting al Shifa.The President took the Sudanese tannery off the target list because he saw little point in killing uninvolved people without doing significant harm to Bin Ladin. The principal with the most qualms regarding al Shifa was Attorney General Reno. She expressed concern about attacking two Muslim countries at the same time. Looking back, she said that she felt the “premise kept shifting.”45 Later on August 20, Navy vessels in the Arabian Sea fired their cruise missiles. Though most of them hit their intended targets, neither Bin Ladin nor any other terrorist leader was killed. Berger told us that an after-action review by Director Tenet concluded that the strikes had killed 20–30 people in the camps but probably missed Bin Ladin by a few hours.”
http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:bQBb21RoKI8J:wikisource.org/wiki/9/11_Commission_Report/Chapter_4+9/11+Commission+Report,+al+Shifa&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

Just so we get the record STRAIGHT. You SUPPORT a war based upon “fixed intelligence on Weapons of Mass Destruction” and a connection to Al Qaeda in Iraq which turned out to be FALSE, resulting in the deaths of 1,734 American sevicemen, tens of thousands wounded and evacuated, estimates between 26,000 to 112,000 DEAD IRAQI CITIZENS and $300 BILLION in American taxpayer costs and counting, with no end in sight, or solution to the current violence available.

And you are maligning President Clinton for a missile strike on a chemical facillity in the SLAVE STATE of Sudan (remember, they’re the ones conducting GENOCIDE on BLACK CHRISTIANS like you and me) after a POSITIVE SOIL TEST ON VX GAS COMPONENTS? A missile strike meant to PREVENT a POSSIBLE chemical terrorist attack on the US?

You’re allowed to say anything you like. Hey, it’s your blog. I’m an American before I’m a Democrat or Liberal.

–Cobra

Rove’s comments and the reaction to them remind me of Sen. Robert Dole’s old line, “We tried to make a deal with the Democarats. If they’d quit lying about us, we’d quit telling the truth about them.”

Don

Thanks.

No whimpy apologies. Howard Dean certainly isn’t feeling the need to apologize for his luny comments. And Karl Rove’s made more sense.

I have a library of documents that I’ve saved on my home server categorized by things like economy, education, environment, etc. While I don’t pull from that bag too often, it comes in handy.

I don’t have that quote and I’m heading out to the parade with the kids. Talk to you all Monday/Tuesday!

The conservatives recognize that terrorists attacked in the past and we’ve finally engaged in light of the terrorists ability to plan and bring mass destruction. Instead of that recognition liberals want to quantify how many were carried out in the past and how much cutting and running was done. You can find errors in the way every one of the past attacks have been met. How does that move us forward? It seems liberals just have a desire to try to put conservatives on the defensive (or answer for things) that need no answer. They happened. Now how do we move forward?

It has been asked from you what do we do from this point forward. Can you answer or will you continue to attack (act like the enemy within)?

I was sort of kidding you with that Patty Murray comment. I’m impressed. How do you find those quotes?

A while back I was trying to find a comment I remember Senator Kennedy making about what he was thinking while sitting on the bank at Chappaquiddick. He said that he thought, “This can’t be happening to ME (emphasis mine).” Seeing as how a young woman’s life was ending in the water in the car he had been driving, I wanted to make sure I remembered the “ME” part correctly. I cannot find that quote.

>>>I was humoring the smallminded approach which you and Cobra take with regard to terrorist incidents.”

“Smallminded?” According to the listing, the worst terrorist attack on our millitary during that period with the truck bombing in Lebanon under Reagan in 1983. Reagan’s response to 241 dead Marines was to “cut and run”–he pulled forces OUT of Beirut. (He invaded the imminently more threatening island of Grenada shortly thereafter.)
Reagan being the godfather and patron saint of today’s conservative movement surely can’t be the model of “conservative response to terrorism” that Karl Rove is talking about, can he?

–Cobra

>>>So Cobra, what is your suggestion for dealing with terrorists?”

First, attacking the messenger, in this case, journalist Tariq Naqash accomplishes absoluetly nothing. He is simply telling the public about a report GENERATED BY OUR OWN CIA. Need more proof?

>>>Iraq New Terror Breeding Ground
War Created Haven, CIA Advisers Report

By Dana Priest
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, January 14, 2005; Page A01

Iraq has replaced Afghanistan as the training ground for the next generation of “professionalized” terrorists, according to a report released yesterday by the National Intelligence Council, the CIA director’s think tank.

Iraq provides terrorists with “a training ground, a recruitment ground, the opportunity for enhancing technical skills,” said David B. Low, the national intelligence officer for transnational threats. “There is even, under the best scenario, over time, the likelihood that some of the jihadists who are not killed there will, in a sense, go home, wherever home is, and will therefore disperse to various other countries.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A7460-2005Jan13.html

This is where the disconnect is. You can blame me, as a liberal for any sort of thing you like. Call me everything under the sun–godless, touchy-feely, oversensitive…yadda yadda yadda. But this report comes from the CIA under the BUSH ADMINISTRATION. Are you going to accuse the CIA of being “too liberal?”
I respect your position, and those of other hawks who believe in millitary force uber alles, but look at the situation first. The radical Islamic fundamentalism that many claim is the heart of the terrorism we fight is being bred in SAUDI ARABIA, which just happens to be the largest oil supplier in the world. While our President is holding hands with the Crown Prince (ranked the number #5 worst dictator in the world by Parade Magazine)
>>>5. Crown Prince Abdullah, Saudi Arabia.
Age 81. In power since 1995.
Last year’s rank: 5

Bending under strong international pressure, Crown Prince Abdullah and his family, who have absolute power, are holding Saudi Arabia’s first elections in 40 years—municipal elections, that is. Women may not vote or run for office, owing to “technical difficulties”: Most Saudi women don’t have the photo IDs needed to register; there aren’t enough female officials to register those who do; and men may not register women, because the sexes are forbidden to mingle in public. Worldwide, the royal family promotes an extreme form of Islam called Wahhabism, which considers all followers of other religions—even other Muslims—“infidels.” In 2004, the U.S. State Department added Saudi Arabia to its list of nations in which religious liberty is severely violated.”
http://archive.parade.com/2005/0213/0213_dictator.html
If you look down that Parade list, you’ll see other familiar names of dictators the American Government is in bed with from the Sudan, to Libya, and Pakistan. If you look at the Daniel Pipes story, above, you must also note that we were in bed with the Shah of Iran, which many researchers believe is the motivation behind the hostage crisis.
But this is what happens when we allow corporations to so greatly influence our foreign policy. Corporation don’t give a rat’s tail about people. They are only concerned with profit. Terrorism will always be around as long as there is tyranny and oppression. If you support oppressive dictators, Kings and Sultans, the people under the boot of those dictators, Kings and Sultans will view you as an equal enemy. There are far more of “them” than there are “us.”

And if you think that’s not true, why aren’t terrorists attacking Switzerland?

–Cobra