I’m giving serious thought to preparing a proposal for a page turner of a book called, In Defense of the Southern Strategy: The Case for the Appeal to States’ Rights During the Civil Rights Movement.
I bet it would be hotter than In Defense of Internment: The Case for ‘Racial Profiling’ in World War II and the War on Terror, by Michelle Malkin (reviews and critiques).
I’d be vilified, of course, and 20 death threats a day would be the norm. But what press such a book would generate, especially written by a black woman! I’d have to start small with a series of well-researched articles first.
One of the myths I want to bust wide open is that the old Dixicrats disbanded and joined the Republican party en masse. I know there’s a story there, just waiting for somebody to tell it. I want to show Americans who weren’t alive then or too young to remember that it’s not only untrue, but a fable Democrats came up with to try to cover up their own embarrassing history and keep blacks dependent on a large, bureaucratic, central government (see Why Courting the Black Vote Won’t Work).
To be “fair and balanced,” I’ve included a Wikipedia entry that’s hopelessly biased against conservatism and two articles biased toward the right:
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Well then. Dunk her !
A dunking tank! I like it! Can we use ice water?
Reply #149:
It is sad. Because we can sit here and discuss issues and we don’t each other from adam. But Congress, a place full of men (and some women) that know each other well and they can’t get anything done. But with the help of the media, they can twist each others words to the point where we’re fighting and they’re winning elections and spending our campaign donations on God knows what.
James, there’s our common ground, the universal, and wise, distrust of politicians.
RedBeard:
I can’t stand most of them. I bet if you take six liberals and six conservatives from this site and sit them in a room with beer and pizza, we could solve all the worlds problem before the football season started. And we’d have to because come fall, I won’t care about anything except zone blitzes, receiving packages, a good running game and fantasy football points.
SCSI, I’d give a couple hundred dollars to dunk cHillary in ice-cold water, provided that the money goes to my favorite charity and not her PAC.
James, I’m down with you about jaw-jacking around beer & pizza. Lessee, 6 liberals from here… You of course, Steel, Mike M., DS, Tifany and *.
Just leave Cobra & Actus out, they’re liable to be wearing the beer instead of drinking it.
That’ll be something to blog about, no?
Black talk radio? You mean the Tom Joyner Minstrel Steppin’ Fetchit Buffoon Hour?
Since when is Tom Joyner talk radio? And while you don’t like the show, many do. They have given MILLIONS to the UNCF for students of HBCUs to continue with their education.
I’ve convicted you of being obsessed about an issue to the point you LACK PERSPECTIVE.
Once again, won’t address that I quoted conservative Republicans. Who is convicted?
134. You stated it’s “well†known. I didn’t know. I didn’t research.
Why is your ignorance the problem of Blacks? To be more precise, why are you making comments based on your lack of research when it is stated that conservatives are “thinkers”?
Why would the conservatives focus on anything else than the conservative message
Because part of the complaining that conservatives do is to claim that Blacks are treated like they are monolithic, when we’re not.
134. If it’s true then the question I would have is why doesn’t the main stream media report it?
They have. In fact, they do it when they mention the troubles of the NAACP. I believe LB has mentioned it as well.
134. If that’s true, hopefully the dominant main stream press will report it to the extent that they feel shamed to even speak in public anymore.
Why are you relying on the MSM when you know they don’t report accurately?
Re 136: THEREFORE, trying to appeal to this mythical “black community†is about as stupid as trying to herd cats.
Then why do Republicans, who are supposed to believe in individualism, afraid to address Black groups that are together because of a specific interest, like business development?
DS, I don’t think Republicans are afraid to address black groups. Fear is the wrong word. I can’t speak for them, but my guess is that they perceive such groups as hostile since blacks tend to be left-leaning. This is different but a quick example: Bush snubbed the NAACP but spoke at the Urban League. The NAACP has been openly vitriolic toward Bush, all over the newspapers with “American Taliban” references. He righteously ignored them.
The majority of Urban League members may not like him, either, but they played the game the right way. Bush was under no obligation to speak before either group, but the NAACP made the mistake of thinking he owed them something, and he set them straight. The Urban League was polite and gracious in welcoming the man.
The old heads at the NAACP are still walking with the dinosaurs. The whole organization, as it is now, is an archaic, outdated waste of tax dollars run by a professional class of grievance-hopping Negroes. They are a laughingstock and too self-righteous to see it.
Back to the business development group thing you mentioned. You have a habit of bringing up an isolated example, usually without elaboration. Are you talking about a particular group of Repubs and a particular business group? Your example is general to the point it makes no sense.
I can’t speak for them, but my guess is that they perceive such groups as hostile since blacks tend to be left-leaning. This is different but a quick example: Bush snubbed the NAACP but spoke at the Urban League. The NAACP has been openly vitriolic toward Bush, all over the newspapers with “American Taliban†references. He righteously ignored them.
Reagan spoke to a hostile crowd of union members.
Gingrich addressed the NAACP.
Reagan addressed the NAACP.
G. H. Bush addressed the NAACP.
The example I used was based on Republicans in Maryland not addressing a Black business group in P.G. County, Maryland until Lt. Gov. Steele started pushing Republicans to do so.
The same goes for Republicans, even though invited, refusing to come onto Black talk radio to discuss issues of the day. This is something that J.C. Watts and Armstrong Williams stated needed to be changed.
On the national level, when BET had news talk shows, Republicans refused to come on and then would complain about the Democrat leaning of the show.
The same happened in Maryland before Erhlich and Steele. Both appear on Black radio, and have friendly conversations with, the hosts. (Of course, they don’t appear as frequently as they do on conservative talk radio stations). This is “especially surprising” because the WOLB morning show host, Larry Young, is a hard core liberal Democrat who heads the Baltimore chapter of the Black Action Network. It should be noted that the Democratic mayor of Baltimore, O’Malley, refuses to appear on the Larry Young Morning Show.
It needs to be noted that Republicans in Maryland complained about their image in the Black community but, for the most part, refused to do anything about it. When Steele was placed into the head position of the Republican Party in Maryland, one of the first things he did was to get a weekly radio program on WOLB, the Black talk radio station in Baltimore. The show was lively give and take. But according to the “mean Blacks against Republicans”, he should have never had the show because Blacks “don’t want to hear Republicans.”
Maybe it’s me, but it appears that public conservatives keep saying that Blacks are diverse in opinion, yet turn around and treat Blacks as being of single mind. Otherwise, they would not fear going to speak to Black groups.
Do you see why you should be specific the first time? You didn’t specify “Maryland Republicans,” so I thought you were talking about national Republicans. Then you go and list national Republicans who spoke before a hostile crowd. I think I jumped into the conversation without reading your previous comments. Confused…
LaShawn, my bad. I’m not a writer I’m a code slinger.
Plus, I’m terse by nature.
Plus, my mind jumps around and, in comments, I write as I think.
James wrote, “I bet if you take six liberals and six conservatives from this site and sit them in a room with beer and pizza, we could solve all the worlds problem before the football season started.”
I’ve done that so many time. Marathon discussions while in the Navy or on long road trips. There was this one idiot who had everything backwards not just politics. He was hard wired incorrectly.
Boy it was fun.
Darkstar wrote, “Once again, won’t address that I quoted conservative Republicans. Who is convicted?”
You. You’re obsessed with some strategy that I never knew about until you came along that existed decades ago that Tony Snow was addressing as existing decades ago with a few politicians.
You want to act like Tony was addressing it as if it existed today because your perspective is WHACK (because you’re obsessed).
Darkstar wrote, “Why is your ignorance the problem of Blacks? To be more precise, why are you making comments based on your lack of research when it is stated that conservatives are “thinkersâ€?”
Don’t attack me for answering your questions. Learn from the answers. I don’t have to research the membership of the NAACP to be a conservative or be a thinker or have done research on other areas like economics and the environment. Maybe this should be a clue to you as I tried to make it that the main stream media is not on your side and not reporting things that YOU care about. And still I don’t care about the NAACP.
The NAACP is irrelevant.
Is that clear now Darkstar. Now learn from the answers….instead of obsessing.
Darkstar wrote, “Why are you relying on the MSM when you know they don’t report accurately?”
Boy you have things backwards. I don’t. And neither should you.
Darkstar #162, Man you are a control freak. Republicans have to do exactlly as you want them to do?
Shoot. They won’t even do all what I want them to do . Where do I get my compensation.
Listen to the message. If you don’t like it as much as you like the Democrat message then dont’ vote for them. You can try to shape the Republican or Democrat message by informing the politicians or writing about what you think but you in your post # 162 exhibit so much controlling views.
Don’t attack me for answering your questions
That’s not an attack, it’s a serious question. You are lambasting me for things I think and saying it’s not based on facts. You are admitting that you knew nothing about the membership levels of the NAACP, but conservatives in general paint the picture as if the NAACP controls most Blacks minds.
Maybe this should be a clue to you as I tried to make it that the main stream media is not on your side and not reporting things that YOU care about.
Well, maybe you missed the many times that I’ve stated such.
Is that clear now Darkstar. Now learn from the answers….instead of obsessing.
Umm…
Your answers are showing that you are ignorant of some basic information, but are making conclusions based on your lack of knowledge.
Thanks for playing…
Republicans have to do exactlly as you want them to do?
So, can you show me the post where I state such or thing, or are you going to continue to throw strawmen?
Listen to the message.
What makes you assume I don’t?
Here’s some information for you so that you will stop addressing your ideas of me vs. what I have written.
I wrote this a few days ago: http://www.visioncircle.org/archive/004222.html
You want to act like Tony was addressing it as if it existed today
This is why communicating with you is hard. It’s because you intentionlly distort the things people have written that you disagree with.
I never wrote the Southern Stategy existed today. I’ve always written that Blacks lack of support, today, is partially based on the Southern Stategy that existed.
There’s a difference.
And that’s not the first time I’ve told you so.
You keep spreading your misinformation about what I have written.
This is at least the 3rd time I’ve pointed this out to you in detail.
DS wrote, “nothing about the membership levels of the NAACP”. That’s right. They are irrelevant. They MADE THEMSELVES irrelevant.
Darkstar changed his story finally by writing, “I never wrote the Southern Stategy existed today.” Go back and look at your posts where you insisted it was going on up to the year 2000. Repeatedly. Thanks for setting the record straight finally. Now you are admitting that you are talking about some limited policy that existed with a few Republicans decades ago and that’s what I was saying all along. Thank you.
Darkstar wrote, “Your answers are showing that you are ignorant of some basic information, but are making conclusions based on your lack of knowledge.”
You challenged a conservative to answer. See if I ever answer your IRRELEVANT meaningless questions again. They don’t matter. Nobody ever asked questions like you do. I answered them anyway to give you the clue that 2 things:
1) NAACP is irrelevant
2) Main stream media is not on Black america’s side and reporting things that you want them to
Yet you RAIL against conservatives.
How dumb ar you?
You have two choices in America. Vote Democrat or Republican. Figure out which message is better and vote.
What we do here is banter around ideas and solutions but instead you act like the typical liberal and bash/accuse/mischaracterize conservatives due to YOUR lack of understanding is about our message.
Again..
Darkstar wrote, “Your answers are showing that you are ignorant of some basic information, but are making conclusions based on your lack of knowledge.”
Basic information? That’s your opinion. NAACP membership numbers is not basic information and they are IRRELEVANT. And now so is your opinion. Because you have shown the lack of ability to learn from the answers I gave to YOUR questions.
You guys (DS and Bak) should get together over a cup of coffee and have a face-to-face conversation. You agree about a lot more than you think.
Well. I’m a little bit ornery tonight. And it really gets into my skin when someone asks irrelevant meaningless questions and I take the time to give my perspective and instead of learning from it he bashes me.
My perspective again was that the NAACP is irrelevant and the main stream media isn’t someone to listen to. I should’ve just written that 10 times instead of answering the questions because he’s clueless about what I’m trying to say.
I’ll quit now. I have to pick up my twin sister. She’s flying in from VA (to CA) and I have to clean and put new sheets on the bed.
Go back and look at your posts where you insisted it was going on up to the year 2000. Repeatedly.
Ahhh… NOW you have it right!
This is 2005, last year was 2004, so for you to write that I was saying TODAY, is wrong, now isn’t it?
Thanks for setting the record straight finally. Now you are admitting that you are talking about some limited policy that existed with a few Republicans decades ago and that’s what I was saying all along. Thank you.
You’re willfully distorting what I’ve written, and it’s clear with your one post.
Since when is today the same as “up to” 2000?
My mistake.
You keep referring to the Tony Snow article as if it PROVED that SS was happening to the year 2000. And Tony was REFERRING to the policy that existed with Nixon decades earlier.
Reading Comprehension. I admitted my failure in being exact now please for once admit that it didn’t go on till 2000 just because Tony Snow wrote and article about it in 2000. Read his words again and pinpoint exactly where Tony referred to it still going on. You can’t.
I answered them anyway to give you the clue that 2 things:
1) NAACP is irrelevant
I never said otherwise. I’ve asked LB on this site why she bashes the NAACP since they are irrelevant.
2) Main stream media is not on Black america’s side and reporting things that you want them to
I’ve been saying that for awhile now.
But, again, just because I don’t drink Republican or conservative Kool-aide, I must not be able to think such thoughts, by your definition.
You have two choices in America. Vote Democrat or Republican. Figure out which message is better and vote.
I’ve voted independent, Democrat, Republican, and Tax Payer Reform. That’s 4 choices.
Basic information? That’s your opinion. NAACP membership numbers is not basic information and they are IRRELEVANT.
Not really, especially when conservatives use the membership count, which they have, to say the NAACP doesn’t speak for all Blacks.
And it really gets into my skin when someone asks irrelevant meaningless questions and I take the time to give my perspective and instead of learning from it he bashes me.
That’s the problem. The questions weren’t designed to get input so that I can understand you. They were designed to get you to think to question yourself.
It’s called the Socratic Method.
http://www.str.org/free/studies/socratic.htm
LB, thanks for allowing me to play. I appreciate it.
Continue here if anyone wants to do so:
http://www.visioncircle.org/archive/004232.html
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