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		<title>By: PyroManiac</title>
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		<dc:creator>PyroManiac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jul 2005 20:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;We will return to our regularly scheduled programing&lt;/strong&gt;

Darlene and I arrived safely home without further incident Friday afternoon. But I was too tired to blog. Now that we&#039;re unpacked and back in the swing of normal life...</description>
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<p>Darlene and I arrived safely home without further incident Friday afternoon. But I was too tired to blog. Now that we&#8217;re unpacked and back in the swing of normal life&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dizzy Girl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dizzy Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jul 2005 05:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;We&#039;re All Britons Today...&lt;/strong&gt;

 I worked late last night, so I&#039;m just waking up to this horrible news: Attack Kills At Least 37 At least 37 people have been killed and 700 injured in a series of terror attacks on London. The first...</description>
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<p> I worked late last night, so I&#8217;m just waking up to this horrible news: Attack Kills At Least 37 At least 37 people have been killed and 700 injured in a series of terror attacks on London. The first&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: University Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>University Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jul 2005 03:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Terror in Albion&lt;/strong&gt;

Update (7/8/05): Hyscience posted some informational updates last night. &#039;Backcountry Conservative&#039; Jeff Quinton has been very prolific in blogging about this - both yesterday and today. And speaking of today, his post from this morning has a compreh...</description>
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<p>Update (7/8/05): Hyscience posted some informational updates last night. &#8216;Backcountry Conservative&#8217; Jeff Quinton has been very prolific in blogging about this &#8211; both yesterday and today. And speaking of today, his post from this morning has a compreh&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Roberts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2005 17:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We don&#039;t cause terrorist acts.  Terrorists cause terrorist acts.&quot;

Gen. Tommy Fanks
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We don&#8217;t cause terrorist acts.  Terrorists cause terrorist acts.&#8221;</p>
<p>Gen. Tommy Fanks<br />
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		<title>By: Jeff Quinton - Backcountry Conservative</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Quinton - Backcountry Conservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2005 16:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Friday London Updates&lt;/strong&gt;

I&#039;ll add other updates later but for now I&#039;m using Memeorandum and a couple of other sources to compile an update of news articles and blog posts from today. News articles/Editorials: NRO AP Financial Times CNN TCS The Telegraph WSJ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Friday London Updates</strong></p>
<p>I&#8217;ll add other updates later but for now I&#8217;m using Memeorandum and a couple of other sources to compile an update of news articles and blog posts from today. News articles/Editorials: NRO AP Financial Times CNN TCS The Telegraph WSJ&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2005 16:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember when the Taliban destroyed the ancient Buddhas in Afghanistan? They were at war with us even before then, but that was the point at which I knew it. I&#039;m not a Buddhist, and wasn&#039;t even a Christian at the time. But I knew that any ideology that was willing to erase the signs of other cultures in order to prop itself up was not going to stop at just signs.

It is time to erase the signs of Islam from the earth. Not to prop up Christianity - but to prop up civilization. Civilization has no place for these people.

Goodbye to the Dome of the Rock. Goodbye to Mecca. Give them one week to evacuate and then goodbye. This will be the start of the shrivelling of their cancerous ideology. I say also goodbye to the Alhambra and any other outposts of the ancient Muslim empire. Just like our current coddling of prisoners and our measured response to their ever-growing atrocities, our reverence for such places, tempting as it may be to maintain it, ONLY GIVES THEM IDEAS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember when the Taliban destroyed the ancient Buddhas in Afghanistan? They were at war with us even before then, but that was the point at which I knew it. I&#8217;m not a Buddhist, and wasn&#8217;t even a Christian at the time. But I knew that any ideology that was willing to erase the signs of other cultures in order to prop itself up was not going to stop at just signs.</p>
<p>It is time to erase the signs of Islam from the earth. Not to prop up Christianity &#8211; but to prop up civilization. Civilization has no place for these people.</p>
<p>Goodbye to the Dome of the Rock. Goodbye to Mecca. Give them one week to evacuate and then goodbye. This will be the start of the shrivelling of their cancerous ideology. I say also goodbye to the Alhambra and any other outposts of the ancient Muslim empire. Just like our current coddling of prisoners and our measured response to their ever-growing atrocities, our reverence for such places, tempting as it may be to maintain it, ONLY GIVES THEM IDEAS.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2005 13:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actus, you&#039;re misconstruing what others have said in order to present what Durbin thinks as if it was equivalent.  

Our point is that Durbin is a delusional hack that happens to hold the # 2 position.  We&#039;re not concerned with how &amp; why he thinks, just the fact that what he thinks is moonbattery.

As for internal memos, stuff happens all the time.  Just as FBI agents wrote in prior to 9/11 requesting action on several suspects and were ignored or told to stand down because what they were saying was unacceptable as it would rock the boat.  Why would it be any different when an agent writes from Gitmo seeking to rock the boat.  

Why would it be any different when some Generals disagree?  This is all part of the process and proves that Generals are independent thinkers.  There has been disagreements with Rumsfeld, there has been disagreements with Cohen.  In fact, there has always been Generals disagreeing with every SecDef and CINC back to day one.  The only thing that remains constant is once a decision is made, one either fall in or get out.  Why would it be any different in State Dept or with any other agency? 

This is akin to a situation a while back where I wrote an internal memo concerning deficient QA/QC issues.  I said the things were seriously wrong, others said that I was chicken little.  When the decision was made to discount my concerns, I resigned -- it&#039;s that simple.  After the FAA was done, all but 2 from the top to middle management were terminated.  The moral here is that sometimes the &#039;sky is falling&#039;, but not just on someone&#039;s say-so.  Serious charge(s) has to be considered within the big picture.

Your hobby is taking any detracting piece that and resting your defense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actus, you&#8217;re misconstruing what others have said in order to present what Durbin thinks as if it was equivalent.  </p>
<p>Our point is that Durbin is a delusional hack that happens to hold the # 2 position.  We&#8217;re not concerned with how &amp; why he thinks, just the fact that what he thinks is moonbattery.</p>
<p>As for internal memos, stuff happens all the time.  Just as FBI agents wrote in prior to 9/11 requesting action on several suspects and were ignored or told to stand down because what they were saying was unacceptable as it would rock the boat.  Why would it be any different when an agent writes from Gitmo seeking to rock the boat.  </p>
<p>Why would it be any different when some Generals disagree?  This is all part of the process and proves that Generals are independent thinkers.  There has been disagreements with Rumsfeld, there has been disagreements with Cohen.  In fact, there has always been Generals disagreeing with every SecDef and CINC back to day one.  The only thing that remains constant is once a decision is made, one either fall in or get out.  Why would it be any different in State Dept or with any other agency? </p>
<p>This is akin to a situation a while back where I wrote an internal memo concerning deficient QA/QC issues.  I said the things were seriously wrong, others said that I was chicken little.  When the decision was made to discount my concerns, I resigned &#8212; it&#8217;s that simple.  After the FAA was done, all but 2 from the top to middle management were terminated.  The moral here is that sometimes the &#8217;sky is falling&#8217;, but not just on someone&#8217;s say-so.  Serious charge(s) has to be considered within the big picture.</p>
<p>Your hobby is taking any detracting piece that and resting your defense.</p>
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		<title>By: actus</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2005 12:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Thatâ€™s my point Actus. I saw it and I saw the redactions and my immediate thought is that you canâ€™t verify anything that was written&quot;

well, you can verify that it was an FBI agent writing to his superior right? not one writing to the media.  I tihnk these guys write accurately to their superiors.  what other motivation could he have had in that situation? he&#039;d want to lie to a superior?  thinking that one day, this might get FOIA&#039;d and make the media?

&quot;You bring in Durbin as if he spoke Godâ€™s truth when the factual trends run counter to his misleading spin.&quot;

I didn&#039;t bring in durbin. Someone else asked what Durbin would think of detaining these people. I replied that he would probably think that we shouldn&#039;t do to them what was in those FBI documents.  Now,  That&#039;s just what he thinks. whether you think that&#039;s true or not is different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Thatâ€™s my point Actus. I saw it and I saw the redactions and my immediate thought is that you canâ€™t verify anything that was written&#8221;</p>
<p>well, you can verify that it was an FBI agent writing to his superior right? not one writing to the media.  I tihnk these guys write accurately to their superiors.  what other motivation could he have had in that situation? he&#8217;d want to lie to a superior?  thinking that one day, this might get FOIA&#8217;d and make the media?</p>
<p>&#8220;You bring in Durbin as if he spoke Godâ€™s truth when the factual trends run counter to his misleading spin.&#8221;</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t bring in durbin. Someone else asked what Durbin would think of detaining these people. I replied that he would probably think that we shouldn&#8217;t do to them what was in those FBI documents.  Now,  That&#8217;s just what he thinks. whether you think that&#8217;s true or not is different.</p>
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		<title>By: adrian walker</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2005 10:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear all,

Perhaps this has been said already, but if so, it bears repeating anyway:

Blaming the London bombing on Britain&#039;s participation in the Iraq war misses the point.

It may well be true that anger at Britain&#039;s alliance with the US in Iraq was one of the psychological motivations behind the attack. 

BUT: even if the bombers wanted to make a political statement to the effect that Britain should get out of Iraq; even if we agree that Britain (and everyone else) should get out of Irak---the fact remains that the bombers have (to say the least) put themselves beyond the pale of reasonable political debate about the Irak war.

Which means that their &quot;vote&quot; doesn&#039;t count. At all. What they did, in other words, was not a political statement that could ever have equal political significance with, say, debate among the citizens of Britain about whether to go into Irak or not.

True, one could argue, as some have done in this thread, that this newest outrage is a proof that the Iraq war hasn&#039;t made us safer. That may be true. But it is also at least as true that people who are willing to blow up innocent civilians---and the strategy existed long before Iraq---don&#039;t have to wait for excuses. There is always one handy.

In other words: whatever the merits of the Irak venture; whatever causal role it may have played in Madrid and London---the fact remains that Islamist terrorism is not simply a response to injustices, real and/or imagined on our side (Lord knows there are plenty of those, but is also an irrational ideology that blesses the mass killing of innocent civilians.

We can&#039;t afford to forget that for a second.

Adrian
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<p>Perhaps this has been said already, but if so, it bears repeating anyway:</p>
<p>Blaming the London bombing on Britain&#8217;s participation in the Iraq war misses the point.</p>
<p>It may well be true that anger at Britain&#8217;s alliance with the US in Iraq was one of the psychological motivations behind the attack. </p>
<p>BUT: even if the bombers wanted to make a political statement to the effect that Britain should get out of Iraq; even if we agree that Britain (and everyone else) should get out of Irak&#8212;the fact remains that the bombers have (to say the least) put themselves beyond the pale of reasonable political debate about the Irak war.</p>
<p>Which means that their &#8220;vote&#8221; doesn&#8217;t count. At all. What they did, in other words, was not a political statement that could ever have equal political significance with, say, debate among the citizens of Britain about whether to go into Irak or not.</p>
<p>True, one could argue, as some have done in this thread, that this newest outrage is a proof that the Iraq war hasn&#8217;t made us safer. That may be true. But it is also at least as true that people who are willing to blow up innocent civilians&#8212;and the strategy existed long before Iraq&#8212;don&#8217;t have to wait for excuses. There is always one handy.</p>
<p>In other words: whatever the merits of the Irak venture; whatever causal role it may have played in Madrid and London&#8212;the fact remains that Islamist terrorism is not simply a response to injustices, real and/or imagined on our side (Lord knows there are plenty of those, but is also an irrational ideology that blesses the mass killing of innocent civilians.</p>
<p>We can&#8217;t afford to forget that for a second.</p>
<p>Adrian</p>
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		<title>By: DWMF</title>
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		<dc:creator>DWMF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2005 10:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These bombs were left by local boys with local fish to fry.

I have just come over from LGF. A few people there have pointed out that Abu Hamzaâ€™s trial was about to start. It has now been deferred. I think these â€˜dopes are home grown. Youâ€™ll find them by turning over Finchley, Earls Court and other Arab-infested areas. That letter on the website is a total red herring. Itâ€™s a crude attempt to attribute these crimes to a group that never existed. 

The Yankee Confederate has pointed out that for a mass-bombing campaign,it has been remarkably ineffective. This is only going to make us mad. I left a comment there. 

Itâ€™s time to turn over some rocks, then expose and humiliate the rabble-rousing mullahs who parasitise our society. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These bombs were left by local boys with local fish to fry.</p>
<p>I have just come over from LGF. A few people there have pointed out that Abu Hamzaâ€™s trial was about to start. It has now been deferred. I think these â€˜dopes are home grown. Youâ€™ll find them by turning over Finchley, Earls Court and other Arab-infested areas. That letter on the website is a total red herring. Itâ€™s a crude attempt to attribute these crimes to a group that never existed. </p>
<p>The Yankee Confederate has pointed out that for a mass-bombing campaign,it has been remarkably ineffective. This is only going to make us mad. I left a comment there. </p>
<p>Itâ€™s time to turn over some rocks, then expose and humiliate the rabble-rousing mullahs who parasitise our society.</p>
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		<title>By: Sister Toldjah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sister Toldjah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2005 04:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;We must stand together&lt;/strong&gt;

As I woke up Thursday morning and turned the TV on to Fox News, I got a sickening feeling from the images I saw. It was predicted and expected that Britain would be next on Al Qaeda&#039;s hit list - the only question was when.  Thursday, unfortunately, was...</description>
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<p>As I woke up Thursday morning and turned the TV on to Fox News, I got a sickening feeling from the images I saw. It was predicted and expected that Britain would be next on Al Qaeda&#8217;s hit list &#8211; the only question was when.  Thursday, unfortunately, was&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2005 04:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actus, SCSI &amp; Bak pretty much covered my point.  You bring in Durbin as if he spoke God&#039;s truth when the factual trends run counter to his misleading spin.  

The simple fact is that there WAS/IS oversight from the get-go at Gitmo.  Isolated incidents do not a trend make.  Ultimately your position is that Gitmo must go and today&#039;s calamity just made a FOOL out of your position.  

This is where you comprehension of both cause and effect and the written word is totally out of whack.  Do us a favor and shut up already with the nuanced jibber-jabber.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actus, SCSI &amp; Bak pretty much covered my point.  You bring in Durbin as if he spoke God&#8217;s truth when the factual trends run counter to his misleading spin.  </p>
<p>The simple fact is that there WAS/IS oversight from the get-go at Gitmo.  Isolated incidents do not a trend make.  Ultimately your position is that Gitmo must go and today&#8217;s calamity just made a FOOL out of your position.  </p>
<p>This is where you comprehension of both cause and effect and the written word is totally out of whack.  Do us a favor and shut up already with the nuanced jibber-jabber.</p>
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		<title>By: ChristWeb</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2005 02:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The London Bombings&lt;/strong&gt;

	
	So much has already been said regarding the bombings in London that I scarce believe I could lend more wisdom or insight to what has already been written, but there a few thoughts that I want to get down today.
	Suffice it to say that today we are r...</description>
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<p>	So much has already been said regarding the bombings in London that I scarce believe I could lend more wisdom or insight to what has already been written, but there a few thoughts that I want to get down today.<br />
	Suffice it to say that today we are r&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The Right Place</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Right Place</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2005 02:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;London Bombed - Multiple Coordinated Attacks Leave Dozens Dead, Scores Injured&lt;/strong&gt;

The good people of England suffered a horrific attack on the mass transit system in their largest metropolis this morning during the height of rush hour. Just who is responsible is not yet known for certain, but the attacks have the foul stench of al-Q...</description>
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<p>The good people of England suffered a horrific attack on the mass transit system in their largest metropolis this morning during the height of rush hour. Just who is responsible is not yet known for certain, but the attacks have the foul stench of al-Q&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: SCSIwuzzy</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2005 02:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>73, Cobra
Safer than if Al Gore, John Kerry or the other leading dems were running the show.
I wonder how many leftist and assorted cowards blamed Churchill&#039;s hard line against Hitler for the air raids on London?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>73, Cobra<br />
Safer than if Al Gore, John Kerry or the other leading dems were running the show.<br />
I wonder how many leftist and assorted cowards blamed Churchill&#8217;s hard line against Hitler for the air raids on London?</p>
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