We must use all tools available at our discretion, including the ones that some people don’t like. We are far more threatened by the government via the Kelo decision, taxes and feel good social engineering than we ever could possibly be by profiling. If you want outrage, then be mad about the government taking too much money out of your check, or curtailing your free speech rights through McCain-Feingold. Better yet, get angry about the government misplaced priorities in DHS monies, making it a pork-barrel project instead of its intended job.

Think of all the liberties that we have already allowed the government to take. Why are you so inclined to complain now???

Let not your heart be troubled. Jesus will deal with this allah thing in due time.

But yes, just as Islam’s cousin’s Nazism and Marxism were the enemy, so is Islam…..to suggest otherwise displays a horrific ignorance and dhimmitude of what Islam is really all about!

Here’s a suggestion Richard…..befriend some Ex Muslims and talk to them about what Islam is all about!! You will be educated my good man……..and in the English Isles, their are thousands and thousands of brave ex muslims…

And remember this Richard before you spout off about how nice Islam is……..those people that have left Islam are too be executed as per that degenerate Muhammed’s teachings in the Sahih (Authentic) Burkari Hadiths….

Any movement that has to kill those that dissent is a movement that needs to be destroyed or at least tightly contained!

Thanks

“Muslims are trying to take over the world, and what’s going on in Chechnya is nothing new or unexpected. The spread of Islam, radical or otherwise, in my opinion, is the most urgent crisis facing all of us. What are we doing about it? Well, we’re currently engaged in a politically correct “war” against a bunch of rag tag misfits. Let’s see what else. We’re bowing and scraping before “peaceful” Muslims in America and being careful not to offend them (although these same Muslims are not speaking out against this scourge!).”

I promise – I won’t comment in this thread again. With regrets to the Proud Albertan.

Do you understand what a dichotomy is? And I ask that seriously and not in a facietous manner!

Have you ever read the Arabic Mein Kampf, the Quran and the Sahih Hadiths??

How can you be so dangerously naive about the times we are in???

Do you find Islam pretty and just another way to god/allah etc etc??

I am interested in your responses!

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But not to use profiling against radical Islamists it to send our protective forces into the fray without allowing them to use common sense.

What is so complicated about that? However, I must admit that if I am addressing someone who firmly believes that the Islamist terrorists are not motivated by religion, then I stand mute and completely unprepared to have a logical discussion. I really do not believe these people act out of having a flouride problem or problems with ingrown toenails.

Let’s pause a moment and take the following test.

In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped & massacred by:

(a) Olga Corbutt
(b) Sitting Bull
(c) Arnold Schwartzeneger
(d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 & 40

In 1979, the U.S. embassy in Iran was taken over by:

(a) Norwegians from Ballard
(b) Elvis
(c) A tour bus full of 80-year-old women
(d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

In 1983, the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by:

(a) A pizza delivery boy
(b) Crazed feminists complaining that being able to throw a grenade beyond its own burst radius was an
unfair and sexist requirement in basic training
(c) Geraldo Rivera making up for a slow news day
(d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

During the 1980′s a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by:

(a) John Dillinger
(b) The King of Sweden
(c) The Boy Scouts
(d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 & 40

In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked, and a 70 year old American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard by:

(a) The Smurfs
(b) Davy Jones
(c) The Little Mermaid
(d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 & 40.

In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens, & a U.S. Navy diver was murdered by:

(a) Captain Kidd
(b) Charles Lindberg
(c) Mother Teresa
(d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 & 40

In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by:

(a) Luca Brazzi, for not being given a part in “Godfather 2″
(b) The Tooth Fairy
(c) Butch and Sundance who had a few sticks of dynamite left over from the train mission
(d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by:

(a) Richard Simmons
(b) Grandma Moses
(c) Michael Jordan
(d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 & 40.

In 1998, the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by:

(a) Mr. Rogers
(b) Hillary, to distract attention from Wild Bill’s women problems
(c) The World Wrestling Federation to promote its next villain: “Mustapha the Merciless”
(d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked and destroyed & thousands of people were killed by:

(a) Bugs Bunny, Wiley E. Coyote, Daffy Duck, and Elmer Fudd
(b) The Supreme Court of Florida trying to outdo their attempted hijacking of the 2000 Presidential election
(c) Mr. Bean
(d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and murdered by:

(a) Bonny and Clyde
(b) Captain Kangaroo
(c) Billy Graham
(d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 & 40.

Hmmm …………. nope, ain’t no patterns here.

The US had mounds of signal intercepts (like cell phone conversations) from terrorist operatives prior to 9/11 that clearly pointed to something major about to happen, but there were not enough human beings on the payroll of the NSA to analyze it all in time. So if you have, say, $10M to spend on either paying cops and FBI agents to profile people, or paying to hire more NSA sigint people, what split of the resources leads to the greatest increase of security and the most effective counterterrorism scheme?

That’s the real question up for debate. The answer doesn’t seem obvious to me at least, and I don’t think it’s fair to equate misgivings about profiling (whether they are pragmatic misgivings like the ones I’m describing or moral misgivings like others have written about with de facto femininity or being brainwashed by liberalism.

I interpret that you wish for a defensive posture of only trying to find who “will” be terrorizing us. But that means that they only need to elude detection to be successful in carrying out thier terrorizing acts.

Thank God we have people in charge of this country who realize that the terrorists only have to be right once to succeed in a terrorist act and we have to be right 100% of the time to stop all terrorist acts SO we are on the OFFENSE. We are taking for the first time the war to the enemy.

Your mentality was pre-9/11 mentality. We woke up to the fact that we can’t prevent them all and to rely on that would be disastrous.