This blog never ceases to amaze me.

–Cobra

Also, remember, like Job, Satan has to get permission from God before he can harm even a hair on your head. You’re going thru some rough times with your family, but you should count it all joy to be a witness for God’s grace and wisdom. Your true reward for preservernce won’t be in this lifetime, but in a place that Jesus is preparing just for you — when you will hear, “well done, good and faithful servant!!!”

You have touched my heart with your writings a few times. I’ve struggled with similar issues. One of my pet peeves is the name calling and almost utter hatred for conservatives by liberals. They think we are evil and mean-spirited.

I point out repeatedly that we all want solutions but we just have different ones. If you look at racism – conservatives try to get to an end of racism and racial harmony via ending racial preferences. If you look at strengthening the economy – conservatives try to help businesses help the economy and hire people by tax cuts.

I fail sometimes in letting comments get to me. When I fail, I find a break helps. I love politics and I know it’s in your blood to. I want to see your writings and I hope you can find the strength to continue.

That’s the nicest thing you’ve ever said about me, Dell.

It’s important for people to know, especially black liberals who hate me, that what I write on this blog, I’ll repeat in public and even to their faces.

That is why in spite of the areas where I disagree with LaShawn, primarily on issues of race, I still have respect for her because she is not afraid to go offline with it as I have heard her in interviews.

But I do think that Cobra raises a good point. People do get mad if you don’t agree with them and resort to name calling which in turn defeats the purpose of dialogue.

You have to get a little thick skinned around here.

Unfortunately, race is and always will be a touchy subject in America, especially since “separate and unequal” still exists. Some blacks feel entitled and “deserving” of skin color preferences, and other blacks and most whites feel resentment toward government-sanctioned condescension and discrimination.

Tempers are bound to flair.

You are so right. I just have never encountered anything like this before. Also, I experienced this on a couple of other commentaries. And, I am signing off for the future. I’m in tears, and I can’t imagine that this ‘hate’ could be good for me to listen to day after day. I get called enough names in my own neighborhood, in person by people just walking down the street, when I say hello. I anguish for that place where my five kids were running in and out of the door laughing with their friends from fifty different countries, and no one thought anything about it. I guess I was just being so naive when I thought that my words could make a difference to anyone.

Thanks for your loving support, y’all. I’ll keep reading your postings.

Shake it off and get back in there!

Thanks for the opportunity to share on this blog. I feel like I am slogging through a tremendous amount of animosity from a number of people and can’t do it anymore. Having spent my whole life in a world where color just didn’t matter very much, I have returned to this country and found that it matters for everything. When my kids married people from other countries, we never even had a conversation about it…that’s just how they grew up. But, writing on this blog, I realize that every word I say gets scrutinized for meanings that were never intended. It’s so demoralizing, so antithetical to stimulating discussion, and it makes me sad. Good luck on your future endeavors. You have an enormous amount of talent, and you got where you are right now on your own steam…..

2. I brought up my research after you slammed me for using Larry Elder as a source, not before. I brought it up in response to your continual touting to everyone, Baklava and others, how superior your research is, and how tainted theirs is. I simply find that notion juvenile.

3. You referred to my ‘lying eyes’. That is tantamount to calling me a liar.

4. Of course most crime is intraracial. Anyone who has taken a 101 class knows that. Once again, that just is not what we were talking about, but you have a great deal of difficulty staying on topic. I was talking about one thing specifically, and you seem to get angry that I didn’t talk about something else. That’s a difficult way to conduct a conversation.

5.By the way, I never knew there were NAAWP, David Duk,or a White Revolution Sites, until you told me. I guess you must be familiar with them for some reason. I got my figures off of FBI sites. In reality, I discovered the statistics on interracial crime one day when I was researching Mathew Shepard’s case, as I knew Mathew. He grew up in Saudi Arabia. While I was on the FBI site reading the facts of hate crimes towards gays, I saw the stats for the other. That’s all. A lot less diabolical than you thought. Once again, you have made ugly assumptions to make yourself angry. What an imagination used for a sad pupose! You think you know a lot about other people. You don’t!

6. Baklava points out how you misuse statistics. You do it all the time to prove a one sided view. Statistics have a genesis, that lends them significance. In and of themselves, they are often meaningless. I simply believe that if you really wanted the truth, you would look at all sides.

7. Who the heck said that Larry Elder was above criticism? I merely said that he was not the source of my statistics, but the he had confirmed them in his book which had thirty-eight pages of end notes.

8. Once again, slavery and all that went with it was HORRIBLE. Racism is HORRIBLE. Unlike you, though, I find it horrible wherever I find it. I found the slavery in Saudi Arabia to be utterly shocking, just as I did the slavery in the US. The US Dept. of State lists 72 nations that aid slavery or are home to it, including Brazil, china, and the Czech Republic. And, I refuse to close my eyes to the ugliness of it anywhere I find it, or racism either. I have never thought that two wrongs make a right. So, when Farrakhan refers to whites collectively as the anti-Christ or says that “white people are potential humans….they haven’t evolved yet”, or Malik Shabazz at a 2002 protest in front of the Bnai B’rith building in DC says “Kill every god—- Zionist Jew in Israel. god—- little babies. god—- old ladies. Blow up Zionist supermarkets. The better to kill Zionist babies and Zionist grandmothers,”and he is endorsed by Bill Clinton to lead the Million Man March Oct.14-15,2005, this feels wrong to me. What I don’t understand is why this doesn’t feel wrong to everyone. I don’t think this is good for our country.

9. I bring this up so that you can see that the ugliness is not all on the part of white people whome you seem to feel are so despicable. Frankly, I haven’t the foggiest notion of what it is that you want the average white person to do to make up for peole who were not ever their ancestors. I keep trying to figure out, realistically, what we can do to change the system, and make it better for everyone. I see my kids working senven days a week, married to minorities. I know they have no money left, and I know they aren’t ugly to others….What is it that the average person is supposed to do? I see that what we are doing now isn’t working as a country. It seems like what we are doing now is creating a victim mentality that is making the hatred grow. That can’t be good. I see increasing divisiveness. Also, for sure, when you constantly tell a group of people how horrible they are, and demand things of them, there is bound to be a feeling of unfairness. This is not going to help us either. Just looking at where feminists have headed, and so many of their attitudes about males has ben very divisive. so, you can make whatever assumptions you want about me being a horrible person. I accept that not everyone is going to like me, respect me, or whatever. I truly had hoed that this blog would be a wonderful forum for change, and that it would be a fulcrum for unity. That was my prayer.

Can anyone else out there help me here. what do you other guys think? I am overwhelmed with this subjuect and Cobra’s misinterpretation of every comment I make. Basically, it would appear that I am not allopwed to express my views as they don’t align up with his.

I never called you a racist or a liar. I simply referenced the common phrase, “do you believe me or your lying eyes.” And of course I can slam Larry Elder. Who is Larry Elder? Is he is above criticism, now?
It was YOU who introduced the irrelevant topic of interracial crime into this thread. You also realize, as the apparent “arbitor” of crime statistics that most violent crime, murder in particular, is INTRARACIAL, which is predictable in a widely segregated society like America.

>>>Data continue to indicate that murder is most often intraracial. In 2000, 93.7 percent of black murder victims were slain by black offenders and 86.2 percent of white murder victims were slain by white offenders.”
http://www.fbi.gov/pressrel/pressrel01/cius2000.htm

You didn’t mention this, and I won’t assume your motivations for doing so. But if you do a Google Search on that 90% stat, you’ll find a host of sites trumpeting the stat that I can assume the motivation for, including sites by David Duke, “White Revolution”, and the “National Association for the Advancement of White People.”

I simply responded with my own opinions based upon facts.

You call me “arrogant”, yet you fill your posts with self-congratulatory comments like:
“In addition, I contacted the FBI, as well as many criminologists around the US, and have done a great deal of research on the subject…”

AND…

“Incidentally, what I did with the guys from these other countries was give them a start, where there were no possibilities in their world before”

Hello? You mean to tell me that no one but JAN can study and post crime statistics? You’re going to tell me that people in the third world would be LOST without your help?

And you have the nerve to call ME “arrogant?”

Moreover, I try especially hard to SOURCE my opinions, with links whenever possible to news articles, direct quotes, statistical charts and documentation so that people like you can’t accuse me of making this stuff up. Now, of course, as Baklava later suggests, there are other sources that may have different conclusions. You can choose to believe those other sources, but I usually pick the sources that aren’t trying to sell books to a non-minority demographic, hence the pro-status quo skewing of data. Gender wage inequity and glass ceilings, much like RACIAL wage inequity and glass ceilings have so many available sources in non-profit government studies that one or two conservative authors cannot refute them with any sense of reality, IMHO. I mean, if I were to list a dozen class action lawsuit findings on gender and race discrimination in employment and wages, what conservative author would you pull up to dispute the court findings?

Again, I will remind you, and all other posters eager to villify me that my response on this thread about “quotas” was the notion LaShawn raised here:

“>>>”My qualifications will always be in doubt because of paternalistic and misguided “help” from white social engineers.””

I simply responded with a FACTUAL posting about what REVERED and HONORED Presidents actually thought about African Americans and their qualifications long before “white social engineers” (isn’t that what I’m accused of doing? Blaming white people?) even discussed Affirmative Action.
Your response to the actual facts about the blatantly racist Presidents I listed was that I forgot to mention that “blacks commit 90% of interracial violent crimes between blacks and whites”, which would probably put some MORE doubt into the minds of potential employers about black qualification, personal annecdotes about your family, which I will not comment on out of respect, and a defense of the status quo.
In fact, the majority of posters who oppose me defend the American system, with a token mention about inequity, more than balanced out with statements blaming blacks themselves for whatever situation they found themselves in, from slavery to Jim Crow to being paid less than whites for the same job. It’s absolutely amazing, and I for one am glad that at least I’m on the record opposing this ideology for any internet surfer to witness.
My conscience will be crystal clear on this one, folks.

–Cobra