Every now and then I like to introduce new-to-you blogs and highlight other bloggers and posts. If you’re a blogger with a new blog or intriguing post, trackback to this one, and I’ll add you to the round-up (if the post is in good taste).
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Black Reconciliation: “I’d like to teach the world to sing…” I was chatting with George at Negrophile today, and I told him about a vision I had while roadtripping a couple of weeks ago.
It was a commercial-like scene with black folks like Condi Rice, Clarence Thomas, Jesses Jackson and Peterson (and Al Sharpton!), members of the Congressional Black Caucus, Michael Eric Dyson, whom I really don’t like, the writers at Black Commentator, and black liberal and conservative bloggers (including me and Oliver Willis!), standing in a big group talking civilly to and…hugging…one another, in reconciliation. It was eerie. I wonder if it will ever happen? There’s always hope. George sent me this link.
Missing Black Women: A liberal blogger discusses the missing Latoyia Figueroa’s (pictured right) non-Laci-Peterson-like news coverage. If Figueroa had been married to the father of her child/children or anyone, would mainstream media be more interested? Discuss.
Stem Cell Research: Senator Bill Frist caused a big old flap by coming out in favor of stem cell research on aborted embryos. I wonder if he’s being blackmailed? Hmm. Blogger Karen of Scottsdale, who is in a wheelchair, comments.
Black Weblog Awards: Can black conservative bloggers play?
Rice for President: One of my advertisers is a group called Americans For Rice, and I’ve been asked by several people where I stand on the Condi-for-president meme. I wouldn’t vote for Condoleezza Rice for president of the United States. First, I don’t think women generally have the sensibilities to run the country. Before you jump all over me, it’s important that you know I don’t care what you think. You’re reading this blog, so you obviously care what I think, so there it is.
Second, Rice is pro-choice and might be pro-race preferences. 
No moderate Republican who I know is a moderate will ever get my vote.
Intelligent Design: Mike Marshall (whom I met at CPAC) discusses the Intelligent Design and government schools debate. Bryan Preston (whom I met at CPAC) at JunkYardBlog says to naysayers:
We have lots of choices. And you libertarians seem to think that that’s a good thing. Or not. President Bush today said something about teaching intelligent design in public schools. And the libertarians react with a ferocity they generally reserve for caliphascists and Jimmy Carter-scale idiotarians….He is talking about the competition of ideas, something libertarians normally favor. But not in this context. I wonder why?
Not too difficult to figure out, Bryan. The ungodly are afraid that God might really exist. As I’ve said before, secularism is a religion, too. But why raise your blood pressure over government schools anyway? They’re run mostly by degenerates. That’s why I say:
Hooray for Homeschooling Moms!: Christian Home School Teachers’ Lounge, Homeschool Mom Blog, The Classical Family, Spunky Homeschool…
Woman With Dail-Up: Mama goes off on MSM!
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What You’re Blogging About:
- Check out Diane Russell’s news and commentary on politics in Prince George’s County, Maryland.
- Stay tuned for Ambra Nykol’s impressions of BlogHerCon, held last week in Santa Clara, California. She was probably one of only two conservative women out of hundreds of liberals.
- This sounds Geek to me.
- More about Intelligent Design from Thinking Christian.
- Check out Dell Gines on video, everybody!
Update: New/smaller bloggers, I’ve got something to say to you. One day a few of you may become huge. Your traffic and Ecosystem ranking will rise, and your reputation in the blogosphere will grow. Or not. But whatever happens, do me a favor? Don’t forget about or bad-mouth the bigger bloggers who linked to your posts and helped you back when you were smaller or first starting out, OK? It’s bad form. Especially if you asked them to link to your posts.
Sadly, it’s happened to me, and it’s…sad. The bitterness dripping from one such post was…bitter, and I don’t know why it’s there. I’m not a flame warrior, so I won’t link. It really doesn’t matter who it is. Just remember old LB’s advice.
Update II (8/4): What’s going on in the blogosphere?
- Blogger’s gone bye-bye?
- This stay-at-home mom is BUSY! See Crystal’s Blog
- And more on Intelligent Design from Espresso Roast
- Check out the live coverage at YAF’s conference
Update III: Thanks for the fabulous links, naysayers! I’m loving the hate. Perhaps I’ll make it to “Higher Being” status by Saturday. Wonder what the air is like up there…
Update IV: Support is coming from unexpected places. I’m humbled. Thank you.
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Good look out on the homeschool blogs, I am going to hook my wife up.
I didn’t know Condi was Pro-Abortion
. Too bad…
Finally…as far as the black libs and black cons having a hug fest…well…hehehehe…
La Shawn,
Thanks for the trackback, and for the good reading…
Cheers,
Please link Booker Rising. One Post on the site (re: Ayaan Ali’s Prospect Magazine article) was linked by Little Green Football: another addressing Black Muslim Extremism, Arab Supremacist Thought etc. was linked by Dhimmi Watch, the sister site of Jihad Watch.
Had to do it. I’m trackingback to my first “parody” post I did yesterday. In the vein of something Scrappleface would write, only from a liberal perspective.
Ugh! Don’t like your parody. – Admin
What do I blog about? Politics in Prince George’s County, Maryland
The majority of residents of Prince George’s County are African-Americans.
It is probably the richest majority African-American county in the country.
Every elected official in the county is a Democrat–the county executive, every council member, every county representative to the Marylad General Assembly, every judge, and every other elected official, like the states attorney, clerk of court, register of wills, etc. The majority of these Democrats are African-American and a significant minority are Hispanic, White officials are a small minority.
The vast majority of top level appointed positions are also held by Afrincan-=American Democrats, including the chiefs of the police and fire departments, and the recently departed schools chief.
If you listen to the rhetoric of either the Democratic Party or the so-called leaders of the African-American community, you would expect Prince George’s County to be a paradise.
Not so. Gory Prince George’s has become the murder capital of the region. Someone is murdered about every other day, up over 20% from last year.
The county reports more car thefts and carjackings than the rest of Maryland combined.
The schools compete with Baltimore, another all Democratic jursidation for worst in the state. The African-American school chief recently resigned under fire while being invistigated by the FBI. One of his top assistants, and African-American woman, has bee indicted, forst for laundering drug money, and more recently for witness tampering.
None of these Democrats seems willing to accept responsiblity for failure. For many years, including the Clinton years, the African-American Democrat who represents half the county in Congress, started nearly every public meeting with a statement blaming Ronald Reagan for the copunty’s problems. Now those same problems seem to be the fault of George Bush and Bob Ehrlich. Nothing is ever the fault of the local African- American Democrats who are actually in charge.
The voters of the county seem content with the status quo. They grouse now and then about the lousy schools and how unsafe they feel, but when push comes to shove and they got to vote, they keep on reelecting the same people who have failed to provide safe streets and functioning schools.
And the local media don’t seem to care. With the exception of a few long after the fact summaries published by the upstart DC Examiner, no local news outlet has reported all the murders.
The majority of murders are gun-related. The gun control freaks use that as an excuse for more gun control laws. It appears that when the shooters are caught, the relevant gun law violations are rarely investigated and almost never prosecuted–but it is hard to tell because pro-gun-controll press outlets like the Washington Post don’t bother to report on gun law enforcement.
Gross numbers suggest that there are 50-100 car thefts and carjackings daily, but no local outlet regularly reports the numbers, much less the details.
My blog tries to identify the murders and to follow the most corrupt and pro-crime activities of the the county’s elected officials, but that is hard to do given the poor quality of the press and unresponsiveness of public officials.
What is my return on this–primarily apathy and hate messages, with an occasional thank you from someone who knew a victim.
Please link Booker Rising. One of the posts on the site (re: Ayaan Ali’s Prospect Magazine article) was linked by Little Green Footballs. Another post addressing Black Muslim Extremists, Arab Supremacist Thought,etc. was linked by Dhimmi Watch, sister site of Jihad Watch.
Diane – There’s a growing black homeschooling movement in Prince George’s, I hear.
La Shawn,
You don’t think a woman could lead this country, be she liberal or conservative? I tend to think: Hey, can a woman screw it up any worse than the men have these past two centuries? I’d equate it to working in the corporate world. My female bosses were ALWAYS more efficient and just a bit more tactful than several of the male bosses I had. I don’t know how to put it without being a bit crude, but the women were heck-raising ba**busters at times. And they tended to get the job done a lot better and with less BS. But, then there’s the gossip. Oh, the gossip!
Diane,
I am right down the road from you in Fairfax County (and have quite a few relatives living in Prince George). I hear you LOUD and CLEAR!
“I don’t think women generally have the sensibilities to run the country.”
A woman after my own heart!
Condi is only pro-choice in regard to a situation in which a woman’s life is in danger. That’s not exactly pro-choice. More like pro-life with an asterick.
Is that like “a little pregnant” Mike?
I’m blogging about homeschoolers in Germany getting arrested. It is a serious issue and deserves international scrutiny. What they are doing to homeschoolers in “enlightened Europe” is sad. And as our own Supreme Court admits to using international law in its decisions this could have major ramifications for homeschoolers here in the US.
Here’s the link.
http://spunkyhomeschool.blogspot.com/2005/08/germany-revisited.html
Also, blogging has already provided me a little noteriety. I am writing for The Old Schoolhouse Magazine on homeschool bloggers and the blogosphere in general. I will probably be mentioning your blog in the near future (Fall or Winter issue?). It comes out four times a year with a subscription of nearly 120,000 so hopefully you’ll get a boost from the growing homeschool blogger market. You are so kind to our little subculture it’s the least I can do.
So even in my “smallness” I will still remember you!
cheers
Spunky
Condi! Whyyyyy?! I was so uninformed about her being pro-choice. I always assumed she was a true conservative. My heart is broken. I could never vote for her now. Thanks for the information, La Shawn.
When I read quotes like the following from Mamamontezz (some old chick on dial-up on a busted office chair with nothing but a pig lamp for light); “They (insurgents) were on a mountain near the town so we went up, surrounded them and asked them to surrender,” the statement said. “They did not surrender so we killed them.” I am filled with hope & optimism about the war in Iraq.
My fellow Arizonan, Karen, did an outstanding job there. Make sure to hit it up.
So, La Shawn. If Condi was the Republican nominee, would you abstain from voting on the presidential ticket that year? Just wondering.
PS…My parodies will be a bit more balanced in the future…I promise! Sometimes as balanced as Scrappleface’s!
Here is what i am blogging about right now:
http://www.hescominsoon.com/wp/2005/08/02/huge-cisco-mess/
Kristi #15 and La Shawn,
Would you consider the effect of Hillary becoming president and if the choices were Hillary and Rice would you abstain or vote for Rice.
My contention is that the “effect” of abstaining would be to do more damage to the issues you care about than voting for Rice.
I would definitely vote for Rice over any Democrat candidate even probably Joseph Lieberman because we saw what happened to Joe when he became Al’s running mate (changed his positions to the liberal way).
At any rate. You guys can answer however you wish and I won’t respond. My response is in this post which is Rice gets my vote in the General election. There are many more issues than 2. I voted for Bush even though I only agreed with him 70% of the time because with Gore I only agreed with him 5% of the time (haven’t identified the 5% yet)
Hey, check out my foray into video blogging.
http://www.dellgines.com/?p=48
LaShawn, I checked through that Word Press forum and couldn’t find a way to embed streaming video into a post so I had to host it on Neptune. Do any of the people you run with or blogs that you view do it?
PS. I appreciate LaShawn and her willingness to help out small bloggers. I think that is cool, much respect.
I would vote for Rice if she and Hillary were running, but it would be more a vote against Hillary than for Rice, just like when liberals voting against Bush by voting for the doomed-to-fail John Kerry.
The issues I mentioned are only two reasons I wouldn’t vote for Rice for president. There are more, which I may share later.
Big Cat…I read through your post and I don’t understand you and others like you (IE the guy who comes on my board to diss LaShawn). It is one thing to have a differing of opinion, and granted you qualified it by saying you ‘aren’t picking on LaShawn specifically’, but in fact you are when you link to her blog and ping it back.
Granted, I have disagreements too, with many people, but to make it personal just seems silly. For example, why not just make a post that says, I oppose individuals who challenge those who believe in XYZ, as opposed to calling out LaShawn or anyone else.
To me it seems like a disengenous way to drive readership based upon disrespecting someone in a back handed way. Or to name drop to elevate ones own position without a direct debate on the subject. To me that is not good blogging ethics.
If I am going to diss you I will do it to your face…
That is just me though.
Welcome to my world, Dell! I deal with this stuff every day. The commenter didn’t call me names, so since I usually have to deal with nasty stuff, his personal comments about me weren’t bad in comparison. I left a comment on his (?) blog, so feel free to get the discussion going over there.
By the way, you’re misspelling your last name, and the cookie is picking it up.
Doh! I have the baby in one arm, and am typing with 2 fingers
La Shawn, Oh, man is your hat full of catsup in terms of Condi Rice.
The Libs OWN the first female President in their view. The dems own pro-choice and all of that garbage. So what have they been able to do with it? Nothing.
If we toss Condi at them, they are paralyzed by a (gasp) woman who is (gasp) black and (gasp) not pro-life entrenched. To me, that is mate, check mate.
So what would we lose? A lot less than we would with Hillary, Frist, Bayh or McCain.
“First, I don’t think women generally have the sensibilities to run the country.”
Hmm…this statement is peculiar. Not followed up with any supporting arguments. I’m just not buying it La Shawn – looks like you’re throwing some red meat to the partisans for link love.
Then I guess I’m fortunate my opinions aren’t influenced by whether you “buy” them or not.
I was worried there for a minute.
La Shawn,
I’m all for teaching Intelligent Design in school, as long as it doesn’t devolve into a Theology lesson, which I believe does belong in the purview of the Church and the Parents. Unfortunately, too many ID advocates are extremely confrontational and binary (either one OR the other, not possibly both) about it. I’m not saying the other side of the fence doesn’t have its radical element, but that’s not the way to get ID introduced into schools.
Regarding Condi Rice for President, I disagree with one commentor who suggested that she should not run against Hillary. On the contrary, I believe that against Hillary is the both the only race she should run AND the only one she could win. Too many people would vote for Hillary as the first woman president if she ran against a man.
And for homeschoolers, a new product over at http://www.didtoday.com has just been introduced that helps parents and children manage their homeschool curriculum. It’s worth checking out.
LaShawn- Sorry to hear that you have been burned while helping people out.
You have been very receptive when I’ve approached you regarding a link and I really appreciate it.
Thanks again.
In regards to the Latoyia Figueroa case, sadly, you’re right. I’m so sick of the MSM focusing solely on people that will get them ratings….
I think they should give Latoyia the attention it needs, so that maybe they can find her and close the case. She deserves it, as well as her family.
Dan
LaShawn: You have a comments section for each post and you sometimes leave responses in them, so evidently you do care about what other people think… so there it is.
Somebody busted me yesterday on that. Of course I care to a certain extent, but the point is that I don’t always want to hear about it, even though the comment section may be open. The solution would be to just close it.
What do I blog about? Politics in Prince George’s County, Maryland
The majority of residents of Prince George’s County are African-Americans.
It is probably the richest majority African-American county in the country.
Every elected official in the county is a Democrat–the county executive, every council member, every county representative to the Marylad General Assembly, every judge, and every other elected official, like the states attorney, clerk of court, register of wills, etc. The majority of these Democrats are African-American and a significant minority are Hispanic, White officials are a small minority.
The vast majority of top level appointed positions are also held by Afrincan-=American Democrats, including the chiefs of the police and fire departments, and the recently departed schools chief.
If you listen to the rhetoric of either the Democratic Party or the so-called leaders of the African-American community, you would expect Prince George’s County to be a paradise.
Not so. Gory Prince George’s has become the murder capital of the region. Someone is murdered about every other day, up over 20% from last year.
The county reports more car thefts and carjackings than the rest of Maryland combined.
The schools compete with Baltimore, another all Democratic jursidation for worst in the state. The African-American school chief recently resigned under fire while being invistigated by the FBI. One of his top assistants, and African-American woman, has bee indicted, forst for laundering drug money, and more recently for witness tampering.
None of these Democrats seems willing to accept responsiblity for failure. For many years, including the Clinton years, the African-American Democrat who represents half the county in Congress, started nearly every public meeting with a statement blaming Ronald Reagan for the copunty’s problems. Now those same problems seem to be the fault of George Bush and Bob Ehrlich. Nothing is ever the fault of the local African- American Democrats who are actually in charge.
The voters of the county seem content with the status quo. They grouse now and then about the lousy schools and how unsafe they feel, but when push comes to shove and they got to vote, they keep on reelecting the same people who have failed to provide safe streets and functioning schools.
And the local media don’t seem to care. With the exception of a few long after the fact summaries published by the upstart DC Examiner, no local news outlet has reported all the murders.
The majority of murders are gun-related. The gun control freaks use that as an excuse for more gun control laws. It appears that when the shooters are caught, the relevant gun law violations are rarely investigated and almost never prosecuted–but it is hard to tell because pro-gun-controll press outlets like the Washington Post don’t bother to report on gun law enforcement.
Gross numbers suggest that there are 50-100 car thefts and carjackings daily, but no local outlet regularly reports the numbers, much less the details.
My blog tries to identify the murders and to follow the most corrupt and pro-crime activities of the the county’s elected officials, but that is hard to do given the poor quality of the press and unresponsiveness of public officials.
What is my return on this–primarily apathy and hate messages, with an occasional thank you from someone who knew a victim.
On Condi for Pres: My biggest objection with her getting the nomination is that she’s never in her life been elected to political office before. I don’t think she’s ever been in an election, period. She’s always been appointed to whatever post she’s been in. It might seem trivial to some people, but this country likes to know that you’ve at least been in a race before.
My personal favorite to get the nomination is JC Watts, if we can convince him to come out of retirement. Here’s a man who left politics to be with his kids while they were going to highschool. However, his kids should be in college by the time 2008 rolls around. Perhaps with the right motivation, we can get him on the ticket.
Maybe Condi as VP?
Living in Philly area, I had no idea Figueroa’s story wasn’t big news elsewhere. Out of curiosity, how is it being played (or not) elsewhere?
FOX News and the others gave the story only cursory play on the air, but have fallen back to that Natalee Holloway stuff. Interviewing the same people saying the same things over a dead women while not giving the attention to this BLACK woman who may still be alive.
SCSI,
I don’t see a lot of it at all (if anything) on the MSM….It’s basically a “oh by the way” if anything happens. I find that deplorable.
This woman deserves attention (as do all other ‘disappearances’) and coverage. We’re not seeing it in Boston.
Dan
I guess you could say I have been on sort of a crusade on this issue. I have been e-mailing and posting and blasting the media pretty much since the Jon Benet overkill.
Totally inappropriate for this blog. There are plenty of anti-Schiavo blogs out there, so don’t post it here. – Admin
Regarding who gets on the media, John Walsh pegged it by saying it is the family members who are persistent and give the media the sound bites it craves. The ones getting the most play usually go on to become activists for one campaign or another.
This sounds reasonable since on one hand the MSM doesn’t have to hunt for material, it is given to them in boatloads which they can then edit down to fill their slots. And usually these families are “rich” enough to carry on their efforts with or without help from the LE & MSM. Certainly more rational than blaming race.
#43 Raging Dave, I too wish JC Watts would come out of retirement. I heard him the other day on Sean Hannity radio show and he is astute as ever. Our loss, his congregation’s win.
I enjoy blogging about the little things in life that speak to me about my Lord. I hope to be an encouragement to other stay-at-home mothers with little ones.
I enjoy your blog, when I get a chance to visit!
I’m a Christian homeschool graduate, married to a law school student, mother of a precious 6-month-old, and aspiring blogger.
I’ve been blogging about:
“The Myth of the Modern Teenager” http://www.biblicalwomanhoodonline.com/2005/08/myth-of-modern-teenager-part-1.html
Saving Money on Groceries
http://www.biblicalwomanhoodonline.com/2005/07/saving-on-groceries.html
Infant Potty Training
http://www.biblicalwomanhoodonline.com/2005/08/potty-training.html
Thanks for your inspiration!
Thanks for linking to me. You are so kind to us little tiny creatures in the ecosystem!
Just remember: after the thermonuclear holocaust, the only things left will be roaches and Tupperware. Mortal Humans will be so much radioactive vapor floating across the wasteland. That about sums up the value of our collective “opinions”…
Micheal Barone has just started his own blog:
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/opinion/baroneblog/home.htm
Very cool stuff. I’ll be reading it regularly.
Here are two of my favorite answers to the “teach the controversy and let the students decide which they want to believe” canard that LaShawn has quoted:
http://redstaterabble.blogspot.com/2005/08/teaching-both-sides.html
and
http://brentrasmussen.com/log/node/122
Note that I rarely generally use this latter analogy because of how inflammatory it is, even though on a strictly logical basis there is a good argument for its validity. (Maybe I’m not a good enough writer to make it clear what the true comparison is.) Usually, by the time I qualify it to make it clear that I am not accusing creationists of being Nazis or anti-Semites, the purity of the comparison is lost, as I pointed out here:
http://oracknows.blogspot.com/2005/08/pseudohistory-and-pseudoscience.html
Nonetheless, using this intentionally inflammatory example, DarkSyde does make an excellent case for why we don’t teach “both sides of the issue” of a lot of topics in school. Given that intelligent design is unscientific and has virtually no experimental or observational evidence to support it, there is a very good reason that it should not be taught in science class as an “alternative” to evolutionary theory.
Orac, you need to be saturated with different points of view. Don’t come back until you’ve visited these links and demonstrated that you’ve read some of these articles:
http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=8543
http://www.reasons.org/resources/apologetics/index.shtml#design_in_the_universe
http://www.origins.org/menus/design.html
http://www.arn.org/docs/dewolf/guidebook.htm
http://www.discoveringdesign.org/
#58. Oh you forgot a lot of things that will survive a nuclear holocaust:
- Taxes
- Welfare
- WIC
- Ted Kennedy
- Robert Byrd
- Food Stamps
- Social security
- Hillary’s ambition
- The Natalee Holloway story
- Justice Rehnquist and
- Helen Thomas
I like this sentence in the first link La Shawn:
So, many of the news stories refer to intelligent design theory as “creationism” and ignore the science behind it.
Orac, in addittion to La Shawn’s list, don’t forget to visit
http://www.answersingenesis.org
As this new school year starts, be very careful what your children are reading and pay close attention to the warped programming of “Nickleodean.”
That channel puts forth some very sick messages to your kids. They once did an afterschool special on the topic of “It’s ok to be gay.” Hosted by Linda Ellerbee.
This article on worldnet Daily should say it all:
BRAVE NEW SCHOOLS
Father faces trial over school’s ‘pro-gay’ book
Arrested after objecting to kindergartner’s reading material
Posted: August 4, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern
I agree with Coulter. Roberts looks like he could be a time bomb. I always said the Democrats would pick the next Supreme Court Justice.
On the Figueroa story I don’t think race was the issue, but I do think that there is a certain snobbism in reporting something like that with the demographic of single. Like no one cares. Well, I do. I have a daughter of my own. I went nuts during the Lori Hacking debacle and wanted to smack Natalee Halloway’s parents for letting her go to Aruba. I do believe hers was covered more so because it was an international case than the WASP angle.
Back to Figueroa: It is too creepy and too much like Laci Peterson’s murder. Was she carrying her cell phone? If so, what is wrong with the GPS tracking on it?
What about her daughter? Anyone taking care of her?
I hope you continue to cover this. More for awareness of how something like this affects us all, not just white or black, but that this could happen to anyone, not ‘other people.’
wanted to smack Natalee Halloway’s parents for letting her go to Aruba.
You’d be smacking a lot of parents….
To me it’s the same with going to Mexico and other places. Your daughter is in high risk. Yet parents (with no common sense) see no problem.
I’m a liberal, and not afraid to say so, but I can have ample and productive discussions with people from all walks of life. I’m a Wellstone-Democrat, and pursue things in the most peaceful way possible.
To say however that I, and many like me don’t want ‘Intelligent Design’ taught in science classes because I fear that God may exist isn’t close. I’ve read the bible, I’ve gone to church, I was raised in it, and I’ve tried to follow it, but I’ve never felt the connection that so many have. I also think that if you are going to teach one, you’ll have to address all, and then science class will basically be a theory of origin class, and that’s not where I believe it should happen. Create a class discussing all different faiths, and make it an elective/additive or after school club or class. It’s a middle ground so that all can have a little of what they want. I think before the days of this extreme political partisanship it was called a compromise:)
To say that all those who work in the education systems are degenerates is hurtful and overgeneralized. My mother is a home economics teacher and works so hard, against all the odds put in front of her.
You’ll notice that I wrote “mostly degenerates.” Exceptions to every rule. Believe in evolution requires even more faith than belief in the Creator God, so evolution is indeed a faith being taught every day. In that regard, Creation should be taught alongside it. Either that, or homeschooling Christian parents should be exempt from paying government school taxes. – Admin
Unfortunately for Natalee, she found out the hard way that stuff she shouldn’t do back in old country Alabama is also stuff you shouldn’t do in other countries.
When I was in college, I remember seeing these supposedly “good” girls (not saying Natalee wasn’t one) doing things they KNOW they would never do back in their lilly white existense back home.
If I were the police, I would concentrate on her girlfriends just as much as I would on little Dick Van Dyke or whatever his name is. I bet her friends know more about that night then they are letting on.
Wellstone-Democrat? Wellstone was the closest thing this country had to a true communist. I wouldn’t compare my self to such a man of dishonor.
I think his parents were of Soviet descent so I suppose I should not be surprised.
Unfortunately for Natalee, she found out the hard way that stuff she shouldn’t do back in old country Alabama is also stuff you shouldn’t do in other countries.
…Gotta love the irresponsible statements. What pray tell do you know Raymond that she was doing that she shouldn’t have been doing?
(not saying Natalee wasn’t one)
You basically said as much in your first paragraph….
“First, I don’t think women generally have the sensibilities to run the country”
LaShawn, you’ve just said what I’ve privately harbored for years…
I think that men and women are wired for different roles in society (and it’s probably due to hormonal differences). That’s not to say that some individual women can’t do it, there are always exceptions to the rule, but in generally speaking I find that many women don’t have the instincts to live a political life. I certainly don’t!
Thanks for having the courage to say it!
#75. Boy, I sure wish I could jump in on this topic.
Condi is only pro-choice in regard to a situation in which a woman’s life is in danger. That’s not exactly pro-choice. More like pro-life with an asterick.
Comment by Mike Marden — 08.03.05 @ 6:03 pm
Is that like “a little pregnant†Mike?
Comment by Renee — 08.03.05 @ 6:21 pm
I’ve actually been struggling with this issue for quite a while and would welcome any input. I believe abortion is murder under any circumstance, be it for convinience, incest, rape, underage, or whatever. Killing a child is killing a child no matter what the circumstance. However, don’t you get into a moral quandry when you have to choose between the life of one person over another. For example, if a woman (with three young children at home) developed a life threatening complication of pregnancy, then is it not justifiable to choose one life over the other? I honestly can’t imagine such a situation or how I would react. Are we then forced to make a moral decision between the life of the mother or the child or should we simply leave it in Gods hands even if both mother and child would die? Again, I’m a decidedly pro-life advocate, but the prospect of this situation bothers me.
#77. Is this supposed to be convincing? We are talking about the United States of America. Not a sheep brothel in the pacific.
As for the monarchs and the other leaders. You leave out a very important truism:
“A woman’s power is only as potent as the man who lets her have it.”
RC 1989
#77. I’d be more likely to support the concept of “pro-choice” if and only if the father had an equal say in the decision to kill the offending baby.
Funny how before the baby is born it is “my choice”, “my body”, “my child,” but as soon as the baby is born, all of a sudden it is “our baby”, “our child”, “our responsibility.”
Notice that women like to use the old cliche’ that says “It takes two to tango” when it comes to wanting child support, but again, it is her body when she wants to punish the child for her sexual indiscretion.
Independent wrote, “I’ve actually been struggling with this issue for quite a while ”
It shouldn’t even be an issue that the government is involved in at that level. We cannot win elections if we are to try to impose government rule that if you are raped and carrying a rapists baby that you have to carry it.
I agree that a life is a life and it is precious. Let me think that for myself and not give Democrats the precious ammunition they need to get more votes than us.
There are many baby steps that we can debate first. First why is it that my taxpayer dollars are used for abortions. I’m sure we can at least move in the baby step of removing government from my wallet on this issue. This is something that 80% of Americans can get behind I’m sure.
Baklava, I was really trying to get some other views on a moral delimma more so than a political question. I know that the abortion issue will be fought and won (hopefully) in baby steps. I’m really trying to get a feel for people’s beliefs from a Christian conservative perspective more so than a political perspective. Does that make sense?
Yep.
Just stating my thoughts. It’s a dilemna that’s understandable but I like to put in context these thoughts with the political for newbies who might be reading in horror about some conservatives who want people to carry rapist’s babies to term.
We need to keep in mind that our comments will be viewed….
Understood Baklava and it makes sense, but I didn’t want my position misunderstood by those that might answer.
Indy, re #77. What are the stats on a mother risking death during pregnancy?
That caveat may have had currency many, many years ago. It is next to a non issue when we can have the miracle of sustaining a foetus thru birth even tho the mother was brain dead for months.
Normally, the body has a mechanism for stopping a dangerous pregnancy – I believe it’s called stillborn.
In any case, if and when, such a situation should arise, I can see that being a private matter between the mother, father, Dr and God. It would be similar to an emergency situation where one can only save one of 2 people in danger of drowning and has to make a concious choice. In most cases, I think most loving parents would choose to save the defensless — but then again, easy to judge, hard to decide. But by all means should abortion NOT be a birth control option for a ‘mistake’, nor in cases of rape.
But in the intrest of positive progress, I am willing to abide incremental protection of the baby until we get to the ideal situation. For starters, gid rid of partial birth — dial it back to the 1st trimester, get rid of taxpayer-funded abortions, return the issue to the control of States and bring back parental notification.
Andy I agree “But in the interest of positive progress, I am willing to abide incremental protection of the baby until we get to the ideal situation.”
I am not sure if you read my post on WE WANT OUR SPERM BACK (http://www.dellgines.com/?p=44#more-44), kind of a sarcastic approach to abortion rights and father hood. The fact of the matter is, if you believe it is life at conception, and that life is the highest right superceding all others, then in any circumstance other than a life for life exchange with the mother, abortion is not an appropriate decision.
The problem I find is that most people don’t argue based upon logic, but on emotion and rhetoric in regard to this issue. The pro-abortion folks I have had serious debates with always end up acknowledging the failures of their position to ultimately protect life. It is a tradgedy and blacks are getting hit the worst.
The fact of the matter is that
Andy wrote, “What are the stats on a mother risking death during pregnancy?”
Honestly, I have no idea. The question only has been on my mind because a neighbor’s daughter has been hopitalized at six months pregnant. She has diabetes and has developed some serious health problems. The doctors are trying to keep her stable while maintaining the pregnancy, but she is really in very bad shape. She is looking at the possibility of having the doctors induce labor very early or protecting her child within her failing body. She has young children at home and is going through a very difficult moral struggle. I agree with your take on the issue – it’s a private issue in such dire circumstances. Sorry, to stray off thread…these folks have just been in my prayers and on my mind.
A couple of thoughts on abortion….I am very pro-life, and had to put my beliefs to the test when my beloved eldest daughter was raped. Aside from the anguish, here is what I thought and found out. Pregnancy from rape is very rare. Women who have chosen to give birth following a rape fared better than those who chose to have an abortion following a rape. I found the studies on this fascinating in light of all the rhetoric from those who have never been through the experience. Conversations I had with women who had been through it were incredibly enlightening, (while we were anguishing through our situation.) The women reported that whether they chose to keep the baby or not, they still felt as if killing a child would have simply been compounding a horrific tragedy with a second wrong. As well, they saw the baby as something positive that came out of a horrific circumstance. People often speak in a fascile fashion of the pregnancy being a constant reminder of what happened. Trust me when I say that the raped woman remembers it for years, pregnancy or not. Lastly,and most importantly, our very fundamental right to life does not and should not hinge on the manner of our conception. If the manner of our conception determined our value, many of us would be in big trouble.
As to the life of the mother being in danger…There are rare circumstances in which it is permissible to sacrifice a life to save one. Self defense would be one, or saving the life of another through the killing of an aggressor. A just war would be another. Perhaps someone would leap on a suicide bomber to prevent them from blowing up a huge crowd, or dash in front of an automobile to thrust a young child from certain death. So, in the incredibly rare case that a mother’s life would truly be in danger, it would be consistent with pro-life principles to induce an early delivery, even if that means such a premature birth that the baby had no chance of survival.
Having said all of this, I understand that many would vociferously disagree. But, I do think that most Americans could agree on the horrors of infanticide (which is openly done here in the event of a live birth from an abortion procedure), and partial birth abortion, which has never ever been shown to be medically necessary. Why we think we have to crush the skulls of fully formed infants and suck out their brains in the name of compassion is beyond me. Also, there is something fundamentally wrong with forcing so many in society to pay for a procedure that they find morally repugnant. So often, there is this element of coercion in leftist thinking, that simply cannot allow for consensus or choice. If people want PBS, let them pay for it….If Planned Parenthood, with all of its billions, loves women so much, let them pay for abortions….Let’s be pro-choice about more than just killing babies.
Raymond is right. There is more than one life involved. There are three; the baby, the mother, and the father. We often forget that.
Most people don’t really know very much about abortion, the tragic effects it has had on our society. The divisiveness of taking the decisions out of the hands of the people and putting it in the hands of the courts has been staggering in its costs to America. Nothing has done as much to divide us as the issue of abortion being decided by ten Not-Aways-So-Supremes.
When abortion proponents first touted abortion, as the great societal architects that they were…(not), they said it would eliminate unwanted children. Child abuse skyrocketed. They said it would eliminate unwanted pregnancies. Teen pregnancy skyrocketed. They said it would be liberating for women. All of my friends who have had them, have been shackled with the memories of what happened (especially when they later found out that the baby was fully developed with a beating heart and brain), and many have experienced serious emotional trauma. A high percentage have had physical problems as well.And, almost all of them have experienced some problems relating to their other children, and were often sad. At the very very least, abortion is an extremely serious procedure, and should never be considered lightly.
Never have so many been wrong about so much. Why do we listen to them now with any gravitas?
Dell, We AGREE!
Indy, my sympathies goes out to your friends. We opted for early birth by C-section due to my wife’s condition on the 3rd and the last (hopefully) kids.
Yes, our last of five was our worse. He was upside down so the doc had to turn him, and he (the baby, little punk) cracked my wife’s tail bone. She had all kind of issues. Make sure I pray for your friend, that is a tough decision.
Dell;
I asked you this once before, but you may have missed it. What show do you do, when, where?????I have a feeling it would be quite entertaining.
#88 Jan wrote: “Never have so many been wrong about so much. Why do we listen to them now with any gravitas?”
That, my dear, is the question of the ages. Man, God’s greatest creation has lowered himself to acting like 3 chimps: Refuse to recognize evil, refuse to hear of evil, refuse to speak aginst evil.
While many have probably seen the research including me Jan, I cannot even come close to any insistence on this issue that the government impose someone carrying to term the life.
The consequences would be disastrous for conservatives in general no matter how much research. It would simply be difficult to convince others that it is right for the government to impose a law on this topic. It’s hard enough to get to the baby step of keeping the government from taking my money to fund abortion operations.
We have to realize the context of the situation we are in.
It’s kind of related to the same situation as the “alternative border solution” strategy of Raymond’s. It’d get us killed at the voting booth and we’d end up LOSING by actually ELECTING more Democrats and liberals into office which would HURT our cause.
Anyway.. Thanks for bringing it up.
Dell and Andy, I appreciate your sympathy and prayers for my friends.
Jan, you state the truth perfectly.
This is an issue I will never be able to personally comprimise for political gain. Oh, I may have to choose between the less of two evils at times, but I will never pretend I don’t believe abortion is unequivacally wrong so as not to scare off the moderates and liberals.
I admire your courage.
I only ask us to try to understand the “results” of our actions.
If the results of our actions is more deaths of lives because more liberals are in power how will we all feel?
Independent;
Politically, I am of the persuasion that coercion upon the electorate, will not work, particularly on an issue so fraught with emotionalism. Ergo, I agree with you that conservatives cannot strong-muscle their way over the wishes of society, and remain politically viable. I do think the issue would be far better settled legislatively, and I believe that most people will want to keep abortion legal,given a chance to decide the issue at this point. I do think that they will seek to keep it more limited, than the any time for any reason for anybody that we have now. Conversely, I so absolutely believe in the unrelenting power of truth. I guess that’s why I am so ‘in everyone’s face’! I remember one time, talking to a group of people,holding a nine by thirteen glossy of a beautiful three year old child named Rosa Anna, Her mother had been undergoing an abortion procedure, that went south, and was precipitately stopped. Rosa Anna was born alive. Horribly, her arm had already been ripped off, a legacy that she gets to live with, because her mother decided at the last minute that Rosa Anna would be a financial encumbrance. For some reason, she didn’t decide this until the seventh month of pregnancy. Everyone in the audience that I was speaking to, sat there in stunned disbelief. When interviewed, the mother was asked what she would say to Rosa Anna about her missing arm. She said that she would be forced to tell the truth as Rosa would find out from papers or someone telling her. She would also tell her that she didn’t think she could afford her, though after seeing her apartment, her clothes, and car, I realized that she was speaking of economic convenience, not desperation. ‘Gobsmackingly’, she said that she would advise Rosa Anna that if she ever needed an abortion, get a better doctor. The implications of telling a child to get a better doctor, overwhelmed me with its cruelty. And, this is what we call love in our society.
Andy, no one called me ‘my dear’ in too long. It sounded good.
Independent said, “Jan, you state the truth perfectly. Wow, and wow, and wow!
Jan, you’re welcome. Your story aptly illustrates how we as a society are so depraved & desensitized by rationalizing sin. Unfortunately, come Judgement Day, there will be boatloads of people that will be shocked, simply shocked that their best is worse than a filthy rag.
Baklava wrote, “If the results of our actions is more deaths of lives because more liberals are in power how will we all feel?”
I understand what you are saying and I am more than willing to make political compromises for the greater good. But on a personal level, this is a an issue that can’t be hedged. There is too much at stake and anything less than shouting the truth from the rooftops is to give wiggle room for the “moral relavitists.”
Yep.
You just wanted to be commenter #100 !
Thanks for the nod to homeschool blogs (mine included, La Shawn. I really appreciate the note of confidence and said so on my blog today.
Some people erroneously calling themselves conservative really care only about defeating Democrats. Not defeating liberalism. There are a few of them posting here. One of them is pretty obvious.
Some talk a good game, but they are just Democrats-light. Eternally looking for solutions, over-analyzing and nuancing every dumb little point they can think of to make themselves look intelligent and informed but never actually employing any of their testosterone in implementing them because they are simply just afraid of making mistakes. Afraid they are going to lose. Not playing or voting to win, but playing or voting not to lose.
Pathologically risk averse. The classic definition of “loser.”
Raymond wrote as if he knew what was in other people’s minds.
“really care only about defeating Democrats.
Love the ESP thing.
I care about Results Raymond. I care about less abortions and no illegal immigrants. Your solution of mines would end up having the results of more illegal immigrants for the reason I outlined.
Democrat-light…. or better results more faster towards the things we care about. Your hyperbole is divisive with 0 ounces of understanding.
I’m playing to win. I’m playing for results. You my friend fail to understand your solutions would increase the problems that we outline.
I never give nods to you as others have because I know this about you. You are quick with the tongue and slow with the brain. Traits of Cobra.
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