Once upon a time he was considered a serious journalist but when he walked off the set in a burst of ire Robert Novak actually ju…

On the death penalty. I’ve always been pro-life across the board, but I always noticed that in Saudi Arabia, where murderers wee executed immediately in the public square, I felt a heck of a lot safer, even in the worst areas. Hmmm!

Recently, I read a riveting study Called ‘Is Capital Punishment Morally Required? The Relevance of Life-Life Tradeoffs’, by Cass Sunstein,Adrian Vermeule and Karl Llewellyn. Their academic credentials were beyond impressive. Their work was reviewed by professors from MIT, Harvard, University of Michigan, and more.Their premise is phenomenally intriguing, has a great deal of merit, and should make everyone with a mind at least examine his/her position. It’s available by googling the title. Have fun!

That’s covered by obnoxious.

I thought you were directing your commentary to me and not “some people”.

I referenced and responded in one paragraph. Made other comments in another paragraph. I try to reply in one post rather than spread out all over the place unless it’s easier to break up responses/comments that way.

You didn’t know what I thought. You were incorrect.

The comment in question wasn’t directed towards you, so no attempt was made to read your mind. Since it wasn’t directed towards you, no reason to apologize so I won’t. End of that discussion.

But on the Lifetime Classlessness Scale, that insufferable cretin Carville scores in the 99th percentile.

If I had not had a “personal” experience with Novak, I could understand that one. Since I have had a “run in” with Novak, I’d say Novak takes the cake.

Oh, same for Oprah as well.

DarkStar, I’ve never particularly liked Novak, and I certainly didn’t like the way he acted on CNN. He should have shown more class. But on the Lifetime Classlessness Scale, that insufferable cretin Carville scores in the 99th percentile. I’d say 100%, but I believe I once heard the man say 3 words together that were not offensive, so……

How about rude and uncivil?

How about unable to control himself? (Remember the Swift Boat Vet treatment Carville gave)

Darkstar,
I thought you were directing your commentary to me and not “some people”. You referenced my quote in post #67 and asked what makes Novak so special.

I gave my answer. Novak isn’t special. Neither myself or any of the people blogging about it excuses Novak’s behavior. In fact Novak was wrong to cuss (as the bloggers I’ve noted mentioned).

My commentary was directed at your ability (er actually non-ability to read my mind, after you first name called and I commented on that).

You didn’t know what I thought. You were incorrect. You can admit it now? You should this time…

However, I feel you’ll just slink off, so try not to let these truths hit you on the way out.

1) Proverbs 3:5. Might I add, Phi 4:5 Let your moderation be known unto all men. The Lord is at hand.? Again, I challenge you to be like the Bereans and test what I’ve stated against the scriptures. Until you do so, one can only assume you’re whistling dixie without a leg to stand on…

2) Rev. 22:18-19 I asked you to test or disprove my statements. If you can’t do that, then I’d think the verses apply to you.

To complete the context, I’d also add Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

I hardly think calling women ‘broads’ as being within his commandments, let alone respectful and with purity.
1Ti 5:1 Rebuke not an elder, but entreat him as a father; and the younger men as brethren;
1Ti 5:2 The elder women as mothers; the younger as sisters, with all purity.
1Ti 5:3 Honor widows that are widows indeed.
1Ti 5:19 Against an elder receive not an accusation, but before two or three witnesses.
1Ti 5:20 Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.

If the shoe fits, wear it! I think you owe every woman an apology!

Likewise premptively willing to write off a sub-continent for the sake of killing the islamofascists that make up 1, 10 or even 75% of the population is at best silly and bombastic. I freely admit to being hyperbolic at times, but I think any rational person can see that it would be in proportion to the idiocy that I’m responding to. If I’m wrong anyone is free to correct or question me.
Tit 2:1 But speak thou the things which become sound doctrine:
Tit 2:2 That the aged men be sober, grave, temperate, sound in faith, in charity, in patience.
Tit 2:3 The aged women likewise, that they be in behavior as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things;

3)1 Corinthians 14:33-35 deals with how the church should act when in fellowship. I suppose you meant to include 1 Tim 2:9-14 as well.

As with most rules, there are exceptions, to which I deliberately referred you to Dorcas, Timothy’s mother, and other OT/NT women occassionally described as ‘chief women’, ‘honorable women’ and the ‘help those women which labored with me in the gospel’. Again, I suspected that you opened your mouth without even understanding the significance of these women. [Kindly insert your foot in your mouth]

This has no bearings on social or legal constructs.

I’ll also submit myself to 1Cor 14:29 Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.

I’ll be waiting for another judge.

Furthermore, to complete the context, I’ll submit myself to:
1Cor 14:36 What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?
1Cor 14:37 If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.
1Cor 14:38 But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant.
2Tim 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

I’ll be waiting to be declared ignorant by a jury of my brethren AND sisters.

Finally for your edification and to save La Shawn’s bandwidth, I present you with the International Standard Bible Encyclopedia’s section on women:
http://www.amerikahaus.com/Women%20according%20to%20the%20Bible.txt

I highly suggest you download it and read it before you EVER open your mouth, or opine, again about women, let alone disparage them!!!

I never said they didn’t take him to task for cursing. However, some people on this comment section are riled up about him being suspended and apparently backing Novak because Carville is obnoxious.

Context.

Some women think “Strength” equals being hard…but in reality it is simply a matter of knowing what you believe and holding that line against the insanity of cultural depravity…

My wife catches so much grief for A) Staying home with the kids, B) Having so many kids, C) Homeschooling the kids…

But you know what, she is the strongest woman I know, stronger by far than all those corporate types I have seen…

Besides, she gives me a nice allowance each week.

My point is that you can not extend a scripture relayed to women and their role in the church ‘organization’ and extend it outside of the church ‘organization’ without a correlating scripture that shows it applies not just to church functioning, but also the secular world.

For one, I think of the numerous female deacons listed in the New Testament, not just the Old Testament.

But simple pragmatics says that just like in the WNBA, and women there being able to beat some men, there are going to be better women leaders than men.

For example, would you rather have a conservative female that values your core ideals in the white house, or a liberal male who rejects everything you believe about the way this country should be run?

Raymond: I don’t think you are being malicious, just a little misguided on women. A woman’s role is to submit not be lesser. From my understanding that is within a marriage not in society as a whole. Even that submission in a marriage is only supposed to be to the husband that walks in the spirit. In submitting, it does not mean that the woman has no voice, a man should seek his wife’s counsel to help make decsions, but after giving counsel, the wife should submit to the husband’s decsion and support it whether it follows her counsel or not. That’s just my understanding, I may be wrong.

The “church” in Corinthains based on what I have been taught means The Body of Believers in Christ Our Lord. Not the church in the physical sense. This debate always comes up when the issue of tithing is the subject.