Comments on: Liberal Tells Liberals to Stop Whining and Learn How to Win Elections

By: Andy

Andy — Sat, 06 Aug 2005 17:29:31 +0000

Cobra, you’re right cause they would have to accept the facts that they flat out lost. But as long as there is unreasonable doubt, they will continue to try and press the disadvantage. In order to win, they will continue to try and supress and disnfranchise the non-democrat voters.

But the truths of their antics are catching up to them accross the land – Wisconsin, Washington, Ohio, Florida, Tennesse, Missouri, Illinois etc, etc and convictions are being meted out even as we speak. Talk about a cancer from within. We’ll see what happens next year.

By: Cobra

Cobra — Sat, 06 Aug 2005 16:30:18 +0000

If there is a system in America where black voters aren’t supressed and disenfranchised and where every vote can be physically recounted by hand, there would be no issues about Democrats losing elections, IMHO.

–Cobra

By: Baklava

Baklava — Fri, 05 Aug 2005 18:20:37 +0000

That’s right. Lots to look forward to…

By: Sister Toldjah

Sister Toldjah — Fri, 05 Aug 2005 18:18:08 +0000

Indeed, Baklava. It’s really depressing, once you get to thinking about it.

I think I need to go pull up some Reagan speeches to read on the Internet. It’s Friday and I shouldn’t be frowning

By: Baklava

Baklava — Fri, 05 Aug 2005 18:05:43 +0000

PBS still funded.

The 1979 opened Dept of Ed gets regular large increases in funding.

New federal spending for stem cell research.

By: Sister Toldjah

Sister Toldjah — Fri, 05 Aug 2005 18:03:51 +0000

No, I’m not saying the majority is always right – I’m saying that the right *did* and *has* caved. Remember all that talk of abolishing federal boondoggles like the NEA, etc? They’re still around, aren’t they?

By: Sister Toldjah

Sister Toldjah — Fri, 05 Aug 2005 18:00:07 +0000

Sorry … I should have noted in some way that I was being sarcastic

By: meade

meade — Fri, 05 Aug 2005 18:00:03 +0000

If you’re saying that the majority is always right, i’d have to disagree with you again. Are you talking about the raw numbers of their level of faith?

By: Baklava

Baklava — Fri, 05 Aug 2005 17:56:56 +0000

Went over my head until now too.

By: Sister Toldjah

Sister Toldjah — Fri, 05 Aug 2005 17:55:07 +0000

I was taking issue with your comment that “the right didn’t cave in” not with who had control of Congress.

By: meade

meade — Fri, 05 Aug 2005 17:47:07 +0000

Sis:

See Baklava comment.

Both houses of congress and a majority of state offices. It’s the truth.

By: Sister Toldjah

Sister Toldjah — Fri, 05 Aug 2005 17:35:40 +0000

Meade #49: “Not long ago, Dems ruled both houses and the true believers on the right didnâ€™t cave in.”

That must be why America has been so rock solidly conservative for the last 40 years, I guess, eh?

By: Baklava

Baklava — Fri, 05 Aug 2005 17:31:38 +0000

Dems had a majority of state governorships and state legislatures also.

By: meade

meade — Fri, 05 Aug 2005 17:25:10 +0000

Not long ago, Dems ruled both houses and the true believers on the right didn’t cave in. Why should liberals feel any different about their positions than Repubs? If they truly believe they are right, they should press on.

How long was Israel in bondage in Egypt? But they kept believing that it’s not might that makes right, and eventually they would be saved and see the promised land etc.

By: Arnshea

Arnshea — Fri, 05 Aug 2005 15:35:20 +0000

Being in the opposition is a tough job. Especially if you’ve lost both houses of Congress and the Presidency. Whining is about the best you can do when you don’t control chairmanships and don’t have the voting power to steer policy.

What strikes me as strange is the idea that the problem is one of tactics. America has already tried the Democrat agenda – some of it stuck around (civil rights, women’s rights, affirmative action, social security), some of it has been rejected (welfare, lenient prison sentencing, national security policy).

IMHO, the Dems are in roughly the same position politically as the Republican party back in the 1930s: the animating zeitgeist largely at odds with the winds of public sentiment. It took several generations for the Republican party to recover political power.