I’ll wait in vain until MSM decides to cover this story the way they were draped all over Newsweek’s weak and unconfirmed report about interrogators at Guantanamo Bay allegedly flushing Korans down the toilet.
That unfounded accusation caused such a ruckus! Yet, I’ve seen few stories about the burning of Jewish holy sites. When the world thought American troops were shooting at Muslim temples, MSM was up in arms! (So to speak.) They were beside themselves with worry. A bunch of pagans suddenly cared about “holy” sites. Comical. But when Islamofascists destroy, it barely registers.
Men made their way around the demolished community on bicycle, donkey and foot, scavenging door frames and toilets. Some in the crowd tied the flags of the largest militant groups — green for Hamas, black for Islamic Jihad — around their necks as capes.
“It’s ours now, and I had to come out to see it with my own eyes,” said Raed Dashan, 29, of Gaza City…
Other critics said desecration of the buildings by Palestinians might spur Jewish extremists to attack Muslim houses of worship in retaliation, setting off a new cycle of conflict. (Source)
The only religion liberals and Islamofascists hate more than Christianity is Judaism.
(AFP photo)
Update (3:07 p.m.): I must’ve had a brain tumor for breakfast. Christ is who they hate the most, not “Christianity” or Judaism.
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Good post. I believe that the liberals hate Christianity more than Judaism, but the Islamofascists and Satan really want the Jews annihilated.
There was an AP headline in our local giveaway ‘Gaza Celebrates its Freedom’. By torching 4 synagogues?
I’ll wait in vain until MSM decides to cover this story the way they were draped all over Newsweek’s weak and unconfirmed report about interrogators at Guantanamo Bay allegedly flushing Korans down the toilet.
Actually Lashawn, the Pentagon did admit to mishandling the Koran and letting urine touch it. This came out after the Newsweek article. This came out after they were trying to hang Isikoff for that article. I don’t think the Newsweek article was off base.
You’re right, La Shawn. The hypocrisy is deafening. Sounds like a blogstorm waiting to happen.
I’ll be going to High Holy Day services next month, so I’ll ask people what they think. Maybe the rabbi will talk about it. But it’s a politically liberal place, so I’m not sure what they’ll think. For some reason, the Jews I know and grew up with (including my family) see fundamentalist Christians as a bigger threat than synagogue-burning Palestinians or Islamofascists.
The desecration of anyone’s place of worship is absolutely horrible.
“The only religion liberals and Islamofascists hate more than Christianity is Judaism.”
I’m a liberal, I don’t hate Christianity or Judaism. I see an attack on anyone’s holy site to be abominable. (i.e. nuking Mecca), but let us not forget, after many Jewish settlers resisted the order to evacuate, some burned their homes and shops as they left. There wasn’t a lot of coverage of that either.
Burning down their own homes and business vs. Muslims burning down their places of worship. Right. I see the similarity. - Admin
The only religion liberals and Islamofascists hate more than Christianity is Judaism.
Whoa, you’re grouping liberals and Islamofascists together? It’s cetainly news to me that liberals hate Christianity. I didn’t know Christianity was limited to one side of the political aisle.
09 13 05
I tend to agree with Dkelsmith on this one. That it is wrong for anyone to desecrate anyone else’s religious place or worship.
LaShawn what do you mean by “religion liberal”? I don’t know if I have heard that before, but I usually think of myself in that way; someone who has liberal beliefs about religion and faith. I don’t understand how that cld make me be averse to any religion though, particularly Judaism. Maybe you are talking about other types of people? Unsure of the vocabulary…
A religious liberal is typically someone who doesn’t hold to the fundamental beliefs of a religion. For instance, “liberal Christians” are those who don’t believe the Bible is the inerrant and infallible word of God, for example.
09 13 05
Hello:
Thx LaShawn for your commentary. I now realize that I am a “religious liberal” according to your definition. Although I am against taking human lives for any purpose and therefore don’t support anyone else doing the same, I have known some people who are not liberals, instead they are academics at SFSU, who seem to disdain religion. Although the last teacher I had like that was of Jewish decent. It was for a human sexuality course and the lecture was on homosexuality. She referenced Leviticus and later said how Judaism was more “sex positive” than Christianity. But she still denigrated religion in her lectures…particularly when it came to the issue of abortion…
Re: Religous liberals and the bible being the inerrant and infallible word of God.
Both theologians and lay people discuss and differ on this subject, but I simply reply by saying I try to keep my socio-political thought and Faith as far apart as possible. However, I do admit that there are some things that must overlap. But religion, politics, all of it is all so very subjective. It really doesn’t matter what the word of God is. The trouble comes in when we talk about the interpretation of the word, or the individual’s ability to interpret the word. Hence, radical Judaism, radical Christianity, and radical Islam. I don’t think it is necessary to piece together words like Islamofascist when they individual we are labeling has counterparts in every faith group on earth.
“The only religion liberals and Islamofascists hate more than Christianity is Judaism.”
You speak for all liberals now, LaShawn? That’s a rather sweeping generalization there, don’t you think?
La Shawn,
I’m liberal and I don’t hate Christianity and Judaism. Well, that’s not true. I really do despise all religion. Not God, Allah, Jesus or Mohommad. Just the fallacies of man-made religion.
And, you say “a religious liberal is typically someone who doesn’t hold to the fundamental beliefs of a religion.” To which I respond: a conservative Christian is typically someone who doesn’t hold to the fundamental beliefs of the Beatitudes.
But, my sweeping generalization is just as silly as yours.
My response to the Beatitudes remark:
http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/10/15/poor/
http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/05/14/bronward-christian-soldiers/ - Admin
Thanks for the links, though I did read them earlier. Been a while since I’ve commented. I think I’ve got to get back into it.
Have a nice day, LB.
See Paula Stern’s article, ‘The Face of Islamic Religious Intolerance’ at
http://www.isralert.com/archives/2005/09/the_face_of_isl.php
She says, and she’s right: “Not since Nazi Germany have so many synagogues been destroyed.”
For those who haven’t seen or heard about what happened in Gaza after the Israeli army left, I have pictures on my blog at
http://bokertov.typepad.com/btb/2005/09/this_is_where_b.html
and the synagogues especially at
http://bokertov.typepad.com/btb/2005/09/time_to_get_som.html
No matter anybody’s feelings, the fact remains that once again the Jews are assaulted, and once again the world does nothing. I haven’t seen any reports of this on the news. This is actually the first I’ve heard of it. ‘Course, I’m not hearing about the flooding in Romania either.
Given their track record, we shouldn’t be surprised that the Palestinians did anything less than trash the place. Of course we won’t hear about it on the news; they always downplay or ignore the violence instigated by their pet terrorists.
Right, we don’t see burning synagogues in Gaza for the same reason we don’t see bodies falling out of the World Trade Center.
As Walter Duranty was to the Soviets, so today’s MSM is to Islamofascism.
I especially love the AP’s “Potemkin Gaza”, where happy Palestinians celebrate peace and burning synagogues are but a convenient source of back-lighting, as the camera never points in their direction.
See
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/008083.php
Also get a copy of Robert Spencer’s “The Politically Incorrect Guide to Jihad and the Crusades”
Christians must awaken to the spiritual war afoot…Ask yourself, What do Jihadist Muslims mean when they say, “First the Saturday people, then the Sunday People”: Why are lands said to be sacred to the “3 Abramhaic faiths” become “cleansed” of Jews and Christians when Jihadists are appeased (study whathas happened to Hebron, Bethlahem etc…see what the Islamists did did to the Church of the Nativity. Why with 2 Holy sites exclusively Islamic, muslims aggressively deny to Jews the one and only site the GOD of the Old and New Testament entrusted to the Jew….Why do Islamists deny Jews had anything to do with the Temple Mount area…denying the 1st and 2nd Temples’ existance there (all the while excavating and destroying antiquities under the Temple Mount)…..(please observe that if the Temples are denied…Christianity is denied…Much of Jesus’s ministry was in or about the Temple and if you read the New Testament with an understanding of the Old Testemant and an understanding Jewish customs etc (ex Jewish Marriage for instance…and the significance of Jesus being the Bridegroom….or Passover and Jesus the Lamb of God who takes away the Sins of the world) one would grasp the greater spiritual significance of 1.5 billion mulims seeking to drive 6 million Jews into the sea.
God said Jerusalem would become a Cup of Trembling….(See Zechariah 12, 13 and 14.)
The Good New is Salvation is in Jesus….and Jesus Has made promises to the Fleshly seed of Abraham (Issac and Jacob) which he will fulfil.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=10242
As disgraceful and horrible as these acts on these synagogues are, I don’t see Israel’s troops doing anything about it. I say let Israel and Palestine figure it out.
With all the indignation I’m reading in this thread, I’m surprised you people are just posting about it and aren’t on the first flight to Israel to protect the synagogues yourselves.
Good golly, Miss Molly, how could anyone read LaShawn’s words and not have a clue about her deeply held beliefs in the Bible and the life and deeds of Christ?
“The only religion liberals and Islamofascists hate more than Christianity is Judaism.” Amended to change “Christianity” to “Christ.”—-LaShawn’s words.
This is an opening to discussing religion as “subjective”?
I have yet to meet a liberal who is engaged in some form of religion who does not have a few dozen “subjective” escape hatches lined up. To them, The Ten Commandments are a useful set of guidlines……..or not.
I have yet to meet a liberal who is engaged in some form of religion who does not have a few dozen “subjective†escape hatches lined up. To them, The Ten Commandments are a useful set of guidlines……..or not.
That’s a cop out. People on both sides of the aisle misuse the Bible for their own political purposes.
I know the Ten Commandments say thou shalt not kill and I’ve seen people here advocating the shooting of all looters, even dropping bombs on people left in New Orleans. How do people resolve that with what the Bible teaches them?
The original word in the text is actually “murder,” not “kill.” Shooting people who’re stealing, robbing, raping and murdering is not “murder.” - Admin
I’m not posting this liberal, pseudo-Christian, and blasphemous screed. - Admin
The meaning of thou Shalt not kill …in the Hebrew translates, more presisely to thou shalt not murder…..There oare penalties for certain crimes…death of the lawbreaker being a prescribed punishment ……In the New Testament iis claer that Governent as a restrainer of evil, has the power of the sword.
I have heard that Brain Tumors stay crunchy in milk.
(sorry. It just popped on out there. ;o)
You are right about the things they hate though. I was reading a commentary a while back by a far left liberal that was supposed to answer the question “why does the left hate Christians?” The first 7/8 of her article talked about how stupid Christianity is and how dumb people are to believe in Christ. The conclusion stated that lefties are hostile because Christians believe all of the above.
In reality- I don’t think the left even knows why they hate Christ so much. At the very least, that lady didn’t.
“People on both sides of the aisle misuse the Bible for their own political purposes.”
True, true. On the right, they are sinners in a world of sinners with the knowledge and path to get it right and work for redemption.
On the left, they change churches or just chalk it up to another bad move. Or ditch the whole religion gig entirely.
Believe me, LaShawn does not misuse the Bible for her own political purposes. LaShawn is a true believer. Confuses you, doesn’t it?
True, true. On the right, they are sinners in a world of sinners with the knowledge and path to get it right and work for redemption.
On the left, they change churches or just chalk it up to another bad move. Or ditch the whole religion gig entirely.
Oh, I get it now. Such broad statements for people on the left side of the aisle. Redemption is only available for people on the right. Looks like Islamists haven’t cornered the market on absolutes and extremism.
Well, I suppose that would depend on whether or not that person actually professes to be a Christian. (just because they post here- doesn’t make it so) I would also agree that Christ’s words and name gets abused by both sides- however it is the left that becomes consistently venomous to even the mention of His name. To be a Christian and to be liberal- not only would you have to support things that you would know were wrong-but the hostility at your very presence would suffocate.
“Redemption is only available for people on the right.”
Hurts? There is a path to redemption and you can’t buy your way around it and there are no shortcuts.
Real religion is not for dilettantes. Therefore, dilettantes don’t do “real religion.” Absolute? Absolutely. You don’t get to negotiate it to something more comfortable or convenient.
Want redemption? Come on over. But be prepared to be baptized in the love of Christ.
Extremism? I am certain that confirmed secularists see it that way. (”Tsk, tsk, those poor, ignorant Bible-thumping Christ Cretans.”)
Just like Islamists? Jihad, infidel, dhimmitude are all opposite to any other religion except for the occasional wacky cult.
would also agree that Christ’s words and name gets abused by both sides- however it is the left that becomes consistently venomous to even the mention of His name. To be a Christian and to be liberal- not only would you have to support things that you would know were wrong-but the hostility at your very presence would suffocate.
I don’t even know of anyone who speaks venomously of Christ. They wouldn’t do it around me. I honestly don’t know where you guys are getting this from.
I can’t justify and speak for every single liberal position out there. I can only speak for me. I don’t believe I know the absolute truth because I’m far from perfect. Knowing I have faults and that I’ve been very blessed and fortunate in my life, I recognize His works in all that I am and even what I may potentially become. I’ve been blessed with a loving family that may be a pain in the neck sometimes, but they’re always there for me.
I’m far from rich, but not everyone is as fortunate as me, that’s why I try to help people who are in need of help if they can’t help themselves. That’s where my political ideology stems from.
Mmmmm…crunchy brain tumors…:P eew
“As disgraceful and horrible as these acts on these synagogues are, I don’t see Israel’s troops doing anything about it. I say let Israel and Palestine figure it out.”
Erm, yeah. Israel has ceded the Gaza to Palestine so the IDF is no longer responsible for securing the area. Part of the reason for leaving the Gaza was to allow the terrorists to wallow in their own mess while pulling the Israelis into a more easily protected location.
Yikes at breakfast tumors. I don’t think they go well with my pop tarts.
“I don’t think it is necessary to piece together words like Islamofascist when they individual we are labeling has counterparts in every faith group on earth.”
But, “they individual we are labeling” *doesn’t* have counterparts in every “faith group” (try talking this inclusive non-hurtful lingo to an actual Islamofascist, by the way, and see how fast your severed head hits the ground). At least, not now. Early last century there were allsorts.
Leftist Christians curse the memory of jagoffs like Franco, right? People who manipulate chauvinist and religious sentiment for purposes of fascist coups d’etat and sacrificial mass slaughter? Right? Sound familiar? No?
“No no, let’s not label them, let’s just send them invisible love vibes as they saw off the limb we’re perched on …”
I am still amazed that people would seriously make the comment. “Liberals hate Christ.” If you don’t know all liberals, how can you speak to all of OUR morals and beliefs. David Duke considers himself a conservative, but I douvt that any respectable person that calls himself a Conservative would say that he has anything to do with a person like Duke. Why label all liberals, all conservatives, all Democrats, or all Republicans something? A lot of this time, energy, and stomach acid that we use talking about one another could be used in a much more productive manner to help people. Catch my drift?
@ Knemon,
If you knew a little bit more about me, what I have been doing for the last 15 years, where I have been and for how long, I seriously doubt you would read my post where I state that I am a liberal and assert that I am some tree-hugging, tie-dye shirt wearing sissy. I know that you can’t give anyone a “love vibe” and make things right. I doubt you can find any place here or elsewhere on the blogosphere where I have even insinuated such a thing.
You have a good post, La Shawn! The MSM in this country has entered into a kind of Hitler-Stalin pact with Islamofascists. Like the terrorists they are allied with, the MSM saves all of its firepower for Bush and anyone else whom they perceive as “enemies of the people”. Those who died under Saddam’s rule, for example, are “unpersons” - unmentioned and unmourned by the MSM. Saddam’s victims do not exist; Saddam’s victims never existed - it was all a Bush lie. Same for those killed by Islamofascism - it’s all Bush’s fault.
I have been made fun of for making comments like these in the past, but La Shawn’s post is more proof. The MSM has thrown in their lot with Islamofascists, as they did with Communism a generation ago. Why on earth should we hesitate to point out this simple fact? These are evil times we live in. Christ never hesitated to speak out against the hypocrisy and evil of his day. Why should we be silent when terrorists and their supporters are lauded by the MSM as “insurgents”, “rebels” and even “freedom fighters”?
Hi Mwalimu. I haven’t “seen” you for a while. Thanks for commenting. - Admin
LaShawn,
IMHO it is not newsworthy. I am a conservative and support the Israeli’s but this appears to be a setup of the Palestinians. Israel knew that this would happen as soon as the occupation ended, yet they included in the takeover agreement a clause that stated the Palestinians would not destroy these synagogues. Who did they think they were fooling? The Palestinian hatred for Israel and the Jewish people is not something they did not know about.
Best,
Scott
To #25/nyblues, who wrote, “I’m surprised you people are just posting about it and aren’t on the first flight to Israel to protect the synagogues yourselves” –
Problem is, I can’t go protect those synagogues because I am a Jew and it is now illegal for Jews to go to (or be in) the Gaza strip. All of Gaza is now Jew-free, or as the Nazis used to call it, Judenrein. Israel didn’t even bother to offer the Palestinians the territory with Jews living there, because they knew it would not be acceptable.
It was the same when Israel gave over the Sinai to Egypt 23 years ago; it also had to be Jew-free. And so Israel itself expelled the Jews, as they did in Gaza just recently. At least with the Egyptians, Israel got a peace treaty. From the Palestinians, Israel gets nothing in exchange. (Except, of course, the pain of expulsion and the torching and looting of the forcibly abandoned synagogues. Oh, and the deafening silence in most of the world.)
Don’t be harsh on Muslims. They are nice, excpet when it comes to slavery.
An Arab Muslim couple living in Aurora, Colorado, were indicted, accused of enslaving a co-religionist Indonesian woman in their home for four years, forcing her to cook, clean, and perform domestic chores without pay…
As usual, religious talk trumps the original topic.
In the Jerusalem Post a Palistinian leader was quoted as saying that as long as Israel patrols the ports, they will have trouble for their economy, unable to get exports out. Forgive me, this is from memory,and I’m tired. His statement begs the question: “What exports?” All of the jobs are in Israel-Gaza by itself has nothing to export except suicide bombers. And I don’t see the Palistinian State of Gaza lasting more than a few months. Soon Israel will have to clean house there for their own protection-as all of the Jews were forcibly taken out of Gaza, the jihadists effectively have lost their “hostages”-I doubted Sharon’s plan, but it may work yet. Okay, you all can get back to religion, now.
Dkelsmith, perhaps it’s because in “LBC-speak”, the term “conservative” does not include David Duke, his claims notwithstanding, just as “liberals” includes poverty/race/religio-pimps like Jesse Jackson, Sharpton on down to the hardcore Christ-haters.
From God’s POV, one either loves him or hates him, there is no in-between. If that’s extreme, well so is black and white on the color spectrum.
Ciao.
Hi Andy!
- Admin
“From God’s POV, one either loves him or hates him, there is no in-between. If that’s extreme, well so is black and white on the color spectrum.”
Agreed, there is no in between, however, I seriously doubt that the Almighty considers all liberals or all Democrats to be Christ-Haters. I suspect it has more to do with the individual’s faith, actions, and in my church, their “Good Works”. Color me funny that way. Oh well, the horse is completely beaten at this point. No matter what I say, people will assume that I am a Christ-hating, America-hating, person because I am a Democrat and have some liberal viewpoints. So I must assume I have a problem. Despite the fact that I consider myself to be a person of faith, and I am a combat veteran with multiple deployments who is still serving after 15 years. So I suppose if I hate America I am willing to go into harms way because of the exorbitant amount of money that Soldier’s make….right?
Dkelsmith - No one knows a man’s heart when it comes to his faith but God, so I’m in no position to judge. Last year I linked to a column that caused a lot of controversy. You may be interested in reading it, but be clear that I’m not suggesting that you’re not a believer. It may be helpful for you to know why conservative Christians say what they say about liberal Christians:
http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2004/10/25/christian/
::rolls eyes::
well, duh. Of course not all Libs hate Christ. I believe we were talking about the pervasive, general feelings of hostility the left aims at Christians.
Using the old “not all of them are like that! You’re generalizing!” argument is tiring. Not to mention that it’s pretty obvious that it’s being used to avoid reality.
thanks for the link LaShawn! (even if it weren’t meant for me.) I missed it before.
Jewels,
My argument in particular is an obvious attempt at avoiding reality, or just in general?
Dkelsmith
Interesing link, Lashawn. Thanks for sharing.
Dkelsmith:
;oD
To #25/nyblues, who wrote, “I’m surprised you people are just posting about it and aren’t on the first flight to Israel to protect the synagogues yourselves†–
Problem is, I can’t go protect those synagogues because I am a Jew and it is now illegal for Jews to go to (or be in) the Gaza strip. All of Gaza is now Jew-free, or as the Nazis used to call it, Judenrein. Israel didn’t even bother to offer the Palestinians the territory with Jews living there, because they knew it would not be acceptable.
Anne, on this issue I’m in total agreement with Doug and Scott. Israel knew very well what would happen to the synagogues when they left Gaza Strip. Nonetheless the destruction of anyone’s place of worship is a truly despicable act.
Its not important what Israel knew or did not know would happen in Gaza is irrelevant…whats important is that the “civilized” world turns a blind eye on the barbarity which is inflicted by Islamists…What happens to Israel and the Jew is ignored or excused as “understandable” What happens to non-jews is passed over (like in Dafur or as in Islamic countries which persecute Christians…like the 3 women sentenced to 3 years for allowing muslim children to attend a program with their parents’ permission) Yet, when muslims complain about “injustices” allegedly done to them the front pages of the msm is filled day after day with comdemnation of the western perpetrators. The world bends over backwards to appease people who are in no way concerned with the sensibilities of victims of the acts of their co-religionists.
#11,
Does that include the oral law?
#11,
Which translation?
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