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		<title>By: David Bixby</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/09/28/slavery/comment-page-3/#comment-60497</link>
		<dc:creator>David Bixby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2005 23:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My family came to this county seeking freedom.  My ancestors fought for freedom in the French and Indian war.  They fought for freedom in the Revolutionary war.  And when freedom was not being afforded to black men in America, they fought on their behalf in the civil war.

See below:

(Letter to Mrs. Lydia Parker Bixby)

Executive Mansion,
Washington, Nov. 21, 1864.

Dear Madam,--

I have been shown in the files of the War Department a statement of the Adjutant General of Massachusetts that you are the mother of five sons who have died gloriously on the field of battle.

I feel how weak and fruitless must be any word of mine which should attempt to beguile you from the grief of a loss so overwhelming. But I cannot refrain from tendering you the consolation that may be found in the thanks of the Republic they died to save.

I pray that our Heavenly Father may assuage the anguish of your bereavement, and leave you only the cherished memory of the loved and lost, and the solemn pride that must be yours to have laid so costly a sacrifice upon the altar of freedom.

Yours, very sincerely and respectfully,

A. Lincoln

REPARATIONS? 
Mark us PAID IN FULL!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My family came to this county seeking freedom.  My ancestors fought for freedom in the French and Indian war.  They fought for freedom in the Revolutionary war.  And when freedom was not being afforded to black men in America, they fought on their behalf in the civil war.</p>
<p>See below:</p>
<p>(Letter to Mrs. Lydia Parker Bixby)</p>
<p>Executive Mansion,<br />
Washington, Nov. 21, 1864.</p>
<p>Dear Madam,&#8211;</p>
<p>I have been shown in the files of the War Department a statement of the Adjutant General of Massachusetts that you are the mother of five sons who have died gloriously on the field of battle.</p>
<p>I feel how weak and fruitless must be any word of mine which should attempt to beguile you from the grief of a loss so overwhelming. But I cannot refrain from tendering you the consolation that may be found in the thanks of the Republic they died to save.</p>
<p>I pray that our Heavenly Father may assuage the anguish of your bereavement, and leave you only the cherished memory of the loved and lost, and the solemn pride that must be yours to have laid so costly a sacrifice upon the altar of freedom.</p>
<p>Yours, very sincerely and respectfully,</p>
<p>A. Lincoln</p>
<p>REPARATIONS?<br />
Mark us PAID IN FULL!</p>
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		<title>By: jan brauner</title>
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		<dc:creator>jan brauner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2005 21:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RedBeard;
check out www.nlpc.org...It addresses this issue of corporations such as Wachovia, Bank of America, and others, having to research their background in order to do business. Peter Flaherty and John Carlisle, of NLPC, wrote an excellent report on &#039;The Case Against Slave Reparations&#039;. Even if one was in favor of affirmative action, this report (36 pages..just google the title and the author&#039;s names) is a gold mine of information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RedBeard;<br />
check out <a href="http://www.nlpc.org...It" rel="nofollow">http://www.nlpc.org&#8230;It</a> addresses this issue of corporations such as Wachovia, Bank of America, and others, having to research their background in order to do business. Peter Flaherty and John Carlisle, of NLPC, wrote an excellent report on &#8216;The Case Against Slave Reparations&#8217;. Even if one was in favor of affirmative action, this report (36 pages..just google the title and the author&#8217;s names) is a gold mine of information.</p>
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		<title>By: RedBeard</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/09/28/slavery/comment-page-3/#comment-60495</link>
		<dc:creator>RedBeard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2005 20:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A back door reparations-like scheme is already active in Chicago.  This kind of PC nonsense is one example of why I refuse to bid on any contracts with large city governments.  It&#039;s not worth the grief.  

http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-slave02.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A back door reparations-like scheme is already active in Chicago.  This kind of PC nonsense is one example of why I refuse to bid on any contracts with large city governments.  It&#8217;s not worth the grief.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-slave02.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-slave02.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Walt F</title>
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		<dc:creator>Walt F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2005 22:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am looking forward to compounding the rent for 300 hundred years on the land forcibly occupied and taken from my Indian ancestors.  All non Indians will of course, have to pay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am looking forward to compounding the rent for 300 hundred years on the land forcibly occupied and taken from my Indian ancestors.  All non Indians will of course, have to pay.</p>
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		<title>By: Merry Whitney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Merry Whitney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2005 05:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ooops.

http://home.earthlink.net/~mjwhitney1/index.html

Merry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooops.</p>
<p><a href="http://home.earthlink.net/~mjwhitney1/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://home.earthlink.net/~mjwhitney1/index.html</a></p>
<p>Merry</p>
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		<title>By: Merry Whitney</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/09/28/slavery/comment-page-3/#comment-60472</link>
		<dc:creator>Merry Whitney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2005 05:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glamchild,

Great discourse, and I&#039;d really like to pursue it, but do not want to abuse and misuse LaShawn&#039;s space and hospitality.

If you feel like it, go to my blog-under-construction, the contact link, and e-mail me.

Merry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glamchild,</p>
<p>Great discourse, and I&#8217;d really like to pursue it, but do not want to abuse and misuse LaShawn&#8217;s space and hospitality.</p>
<p>If you feel like it, go to my blog-under-construction, the contact link, and e-mail me.</p>
<p>Merry</p>
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		<title>By: Walter E. Wallis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Walter E. Wallis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2005 05:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If blacks want to hold themselves seperate, then let them have that seperation. We acknowledged their equality, they wanted revenge. I want anyone, of any color or ethnicity who does not want to fully share in the fruits and the burdons of our civilization to be given back his or her birthright and to be relocated to a coultry that will accept them, with the sole and only requirement they renounce U.S. citizenship and never return. The rest, shut up and deal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If blacks want to hold themselves seperate, then let them have that seperation. We acknowledged their equality, they wanted revenge. I want anyone, of any color or ethnicity who does not want to fully share in the fruits and the burdons of our civilization to be given back his or her birthright and to be relocated to a coultry that will accept them, with the sole and only requirement they renounce U.S. citizenship and never return. The rest, shut up and deal.</p>
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		<title>By: jan brauner</title>
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		<dc:creator>jan brauner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2005 00:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RedBeard;
One day, my baby brother called and blurted out that he and his wife were &#039;milking the government&#039; for illegal welfare...cuz the government is one big monolithic cash cow...Earlier that day, I had watched my eight month pregnant daughter struggle to work a twelve hour day at Dell as a computer analyst, while suffering from a strep infection, and an auto immune disorder....In a measured tone, I told my brother that I would like to &#039;introduce&#039; him to the government, and then I gave him details about the lives of his nieces, all of whom work seven days a week....

Because government has assumed such behemouth proportions, we are suffering from a fundamental disconnect between those who pay for it and those who benefit from it.  Our net beneficiary group grows ever larger, as government expands (the number of government employees is expanding exponentially), while our donor group diminishes...a recipe for disaster...

What to do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RedBeard;<br />
One day, my baby brother called and blurted out that he and his wife were &#8216;milking the government&#8217; for illegal welfare&#8230;cuz the government is one big monolithic cash cow&#8230;Earlier that day, I had watched my eight month pregnant daughter struggle to work a twelve hour day at Dell as a computer analyst, while suffering from a strep infection, and an auto immune disorder&#8230;.In a measured tone, I told my brother that I would like to &#8216;introduce&#8217; him to the government, and then I gave him details about the lives of his nieces, all of whom work seven days a week&#8230;.</p>
<p>Because government has assumed such behemouth proportions, we are suffering from a fundamental disconnect between those who pay for it and those who benefit from it.  Our net beneficiary group grows ever larger, as government expands (the number of government employees is expanding exponentially), while our donor group diminishes&#8230;a recipe for disaster&#8230;</p>
<p>What to do?</p>
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		<title>By: Glamchild</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/09/28/slavery/comment-page-3/#comment-60466</link>
		<dc:creator>Glamchild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 21:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Merry:  If you&#039;re part Indian, why don&#039;t you make a claim and cash in ?????  Just kidding.  I think.

Why shouldn&#039;t Indian Casinos pay real estate taxes?  All other casinos do.

The Native American Act provides subsidies, still, even to casino tribes that aren&#039;t impoverished any longer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Merry:  If you&#8217;re part Indian, why don&#8217;t you make a claim and cash in ?????  Just kidding.  I think.</p>
<p>Why shouldn&#8217;t Indian Casinos pay real estate taxes?  All other casinos do.</p>
<p>The Native American Act provides subsidies, still, even to casino tribes that aren&#8217;t impoverished any longer.</p>
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		<title>By: Merry Whitney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Merry Whitney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 21:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glamchild,

Corn: You may be right - I was regurgitating a remembered elementary school lesson from more than a half-century ago. As Will Rogers* said, &quot;T&#039;aint the things I can&#039;t recall that bothers me... it&#039;s what I clearly remember that just a&#039;int so.&quot; I should probably just stand corrected, therefore, I do.

Treaty: I didn&#039;t say I agree with it, I wasn&#039;t around (no matter what my kids say). But something worse than a bad treaty is a government that doesn&#039;t stand by its solemn pledge(s).

Reparations = separate states: Apples and oranges. Hawaii is a US state; its citizens, like blacks and whites and every American in a US state, of whatever ethnic or racial status, EXCEPT those exempted by treaty, are bound to and by the one same sovereignty (Puerto Rico isn&#039;t a state).

I think American Indians would be much better off if THEY ripped up the treaties and demanded a Constitutional right to equal treatment. But that&#039;s not my call ... even though my ggg-grandmother was an Indian (something I learned digging into genealogy. I was never part of the culture).

Welfare, no argument from me, and I don&#039;t even care about the cost in taxes. It&#039;s a travesty that has created and perpetuated misery, racial antagonism, and class warfare, and has relegated multiple generations to permanent underclass.

&quot;Free land&quot; is another matter, and it wasn&#039;t &quot;free.&quot; Those pesky treaties again. Casinos? IF there is a direct taxpayer subsidy, I don&#039;t see how that could be legal; but casino profits belong to casino operators. You can&#039;t start taxing Indian land because they figured out how to make a profit with it.

Merry
* My father always quoted Will Rogers; I never heard Rogers himself say it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glamchild,</p>
<p>Corn: You may be right &#8211; I was regurgitating a remembered elementary school lesson from more than a half-century ago. As Will Rogers* said, &#8220;T&#8217;aint the things I can&#8217;t recall that bothers me&#8230; it&#8217;s what I clearly remember that just a&#8217;int so.&#8221; I should probably just stand corrected, therefore, I do.</p>
<p>Treaty: I didn&#8217;t say I agree with it, I wasn&#8217;t around (no matter what my kids say). But something worse than a bad treaty is a government that doesn&#8217;t stand by its solemn pledge(s).</p>
<p>Reparations = separate states: Apples and oranges. Hawaii is a US state; its citizens, like blacks and whites and every American in a US state, of whatever ethnic or racial status, EXCEPT those exempted by treaty, are bound to and by the one same sovereignty (Puerto Rico isn&#8217;t a state).</p>
<p>I think American Indians would be much better off if THEY ripped up the treaties and demanded a Constitutional right to equal treatment. But that&#8217;s not my call &#8230; even though my ggg-grandmother was an Indian (something I learned digging into genealogy. I was never part of the culture).</p>
<p>Welfare, no argument from me, and I don&#8217;t even care about the cost in taxes. It&#8217;s a travesty that has created and perpetuated misery, racial antagonism, and class warfare, and has relegated multiple generations to permanent underclass.</p>
<p>&#8220;Free land&#8221; is another matter, and it wasn&#8217;t &#8220;free.&#8221; Those pesky treaties again. Casinos? IF there is a direct taxpayer subsidy, I don&#8217;t see how that could be legal; but casino profits belong to casino operators. You can&#8217;t start taxing Indian land because they figured out how to make a profit with it.</p>
<p>Merry<br />
* My father always quoted Will Rogers; I never heard Rogers himself say it.</p>
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		<title>By: William Meisheid</title>
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		<dc:creator>William Meisheid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 20:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Idiongo Udoh, Since you took Bennett&#039;s comments completely out of context, in effect turning them on their head, does that failure demonstrate the reliability of your opinions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Idiongo Udoh, Since you took Bennett&#8217;s comments completely out of context, in effect turning them on their head, does that failure demonstrate the reliability of your opinions?</p>
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		<title>By: RedBeard</title>
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		<dc:creator>RedBeard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 19:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing driving the reparations issue is the severe disconnect in people&#039;s minds between taxpayers and government.  

The pro-reparations people tend to look at the government of the U.S. as the monolithic entity responsible for perpetrating or allowing past affronts, so government is supposed to pay, using its own money.  Trouble is, government has not one penny of its own.  

Seldom do pro-reparations advocates think in terms of that money coming out of the pockets of their neighbors, relatives and co-workers, which it must.  When viewed that way, the whole reparations scheme starts to fall apart, just on the grounds of fairness and common sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing driving the reparations issue is the severe disconnect in people&#8217;s minds between taxpayers and government.  </p>
<p>The pro-reparations people tend to look at the government of the U.S. as the monolithic entity responsible for perpetrating or allowing past affronts, so government is supposed to pay, using its own money.  Trouble is, government has not one penny of its own.  </p>
<p>Seldom do pro-reparations advocates think in terms of that money coming out of the pockets of their neighbors, relatives and co-workers, which it must.  When viewed that way, the whole reparations scheme starts to fall apart, just on the grounds of fairness and common sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Shade</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 19:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gary.  I don&#039;t believe in reparations, but reparations is not asking YOU to pay anyone anything.  It is asking the U.S. government.  The U.S. government is not synonymous with &quot;white&quot; though I&#039;m sure that there are some who look at it that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gary.  I don&#8217;t believe in reparations, but reparations is not asking YOU to pay anyone anything.  It is asking the U.S. government.  The U.S. government is not synonymous with &#8220;white&#8221; though I&#8217;m sure that there are some who look at it that way.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Aminoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Aminoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 19:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I can think of many rational reasons why reparations don&#039;t make sense, I have one question that I would like to have answered by those who think reparations are the right thing.

My family first came to the United States in 1922.  They never owned slaves, they never trafficed in slaves, they never even benefited by the labor of slaves in the United States.  My family struggled to succeed in a country where the opportunities for Jews who didn&#039;t speak english were limited and have always supported the rights of blacks in this country.

Now, given the above facts, how do you justify that I or my family should pay reparations to Afro-Americans?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I can think of many rational reasons why reparations don&#8217;t make sense, I have one question that I would like to have answered by those who think reparations are the right thing.</p>
<p>My family first came to the United States in 1922.  They never owned slaves, they never trafficed in slaves, they never even benefited by the labor of slaves in the United States.  My family struggled to succeed in a country where the opportunities for Jews who didn&#8217;t speak english were limited and have always supported the rights of blacks in this country.</p>
<p>Now, given the above facts, how do you justify that I or my family should pay reparations to Afro-Americans?</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 18:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good commenting going on from my old &amp; new brothers &amp; sisters in Christ.

Hehe, if only I had time and a high-speed link, instead of sharing this satellite link with scores of people -- slower than dialup.  Oh well. 

Needless to say, reparations is but a scheme for the elite chosen (self-nominated) few to rake in the dough on behalf of the unfortunate -- translation: untrustworthy -- masses.  

Race relations won&#039;t begin to heal until the race pimps &amp; -pimpees REPENT!  :)

Ciao.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good commenting going on from my old &amp; new brothers &amp; sisters in Christ.</p>
<p>Hehe, if only I had time and a high-speed link, instead of sharing this satellite link with scores of people &#8212; slower than dialup.  Oh well. </p>
<p>Needless to say, reparations is but a scheme for the elite chosen (self-nominated) few to rake in the dough on behalf of the unfortunate &#8212; translation: untrustworthy &#8212; masses.  </p>
<p>Race relations won&#8217;t begin to heal until the race pimps &amp; -pimpees REPENT!  <img src='http://lashawnbarber.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Ciao.</p>
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