Update (11/4): The rioting continues to spread. If anyone finds a headline with the word “Muslims” in it, please let me know.
Disabled woman set on fire by “youths.”
Recommended site: Know Islam.
Recommended book: Islam Unveiled.
Review of The Crisis of Islam.
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Paris is reaping what it’s sown, and if we don’t heed the warnings (as if the murder of thousands and destruction of two buildings in New York City weren’t enough), we can expect the same.
Lax immigration policies, prostration to the god of multiculturalism, and the refusal to fight fire with fire are three reasons why Muslim “youths” in Paris are rioting in the streets.
As I see it, the religion of Islam is inherently incompatible with the concept of individual liberty, a crucial component of western countries. It’s no accident that a culture like the West and a nation like the United States were envisioned and created by people who were either Christians and/or biblically literate and/or respected the Christian tradition. In countries under Islamic law, there’s no such idea as “individual liberty.” You’re either a Muslim or in danger of having your throat sliced open.
A growing problem in the West is not only our insane, suicidal embrace of “multiculturalism,” but an inability to recognize that Islam is an enemy intent on destroying freedom wherever it exists. Those Muslim rioters in Paris, angry about being unemployed or whatever their excuse, need to be crushed.
Instead, authorities are apologizing for throwing tear gas into a mosque. They’re smoking crack, right? If rioting thugs are hiding in mosques, why wouldn’t you try to tear-gas them out? This is similar to the Guantanamo Bay Koran-flushing and don’t-touch-the-temple memes that floated around.
Let me be clear, especially if you’re reading this blog for the first time. While I don’t believe every single Muslim on the planet is violent, I believe that the nature of Islam itself is violent. One of the most stunning things I ever heard was George Bush’s contention that Islam is a “religion of peace.” Yes, you have your Christian kooks blowing up child killers “in the name of God,” but generally, such incidents are isolated.
On the contrary, Islamofascism is the order of the day. Every day there’s more news of death at the hands of Muslims. Instead of taking an extremely hard line and putting pressure on Muslim so-called leaders to denounce these thugs and round them up, we’re the ones injuring our spines from all the bowing and scraping, trying to prove we’re not religious bigots. Forget that. I care more about my physical well-being and preservation of my way of life than what weak-willed, emasculated liberals say about me.
If Muslim extremists are willing to blow up themselves and children, we must be willing to do what it takes to stop them. We’re certainly able.
In response to the riots, President Jacques Chirac said the law must be enforced firmly but “in a spirit of dialogue and respect.” Whatever that means. Heart of a lion, he has.
This headline makes me sick: French youths riot for seventh night running. French youths? They make it sound so generic and ordinary, as if a bunch of rowdy, drunk teenagers decided to throw rocks at cars. These are radical Muslims, foreign invaders, destroying property and injuring people who graciously allowed them into their country in the first place!
The whole thing is comical, especially Chirac’s pleas.
You notice how Muslims adopt the tendency to riot, protest and cry “Discrimination!” once they’re in western countries, when such actions would render them headless in the countries they fled from? No gratitude at all.
I’m done. Carry on.
Bloggers: Jihad Watch (Update), Ace of Spades, Southern Appeal, Captain’s Quarters, Gateway Pundit, Yourish, Transterrestrial Musings on riots in Denmark, Outside the Beltway, Michelle Malkin on troop supporters…
It is a fact that the majority of the “youths†and “gangs†who have been rioting outside Paris for a week now are Muslims. You will not find that fact reported directly in this Washington Post story. You will read the rioters called “gangs of youthsâ€, “riotersâ€, “immigrantsâ€, and “poor†and that’s it.
Yet, the article notes that what sparked the riots was the death of two Muslim youths who decided to hide from a police checkpoint in a power substation, where they electrocuted themselves to death.
From a commenter:
Islam isn’t just incompatible with individual liberty, it’s incompatible with the very notion of civilized society itself.
Sources:
- France struggles as unrest spreads
- French Police, Gangs [That’s more like it!] Clash for 7th Night; Shots Fired
- Can Blair regain his political authority after this fortnight? [It’s long gone!]
- French Muslims face job discrimination [I wonder why???]
- Fresh violence hits Paris suburbs
- Six nights of riots in Paris ghetto split Chirac cabinet
- Shots fired as French riots escalate
- The Brussels Journal
- Yahoo! news
Blogger updates: Captain’s Quarters, Michelle Malkin is rounding up, Weapons of Mass Destruction, The American Princess…
Last year the acclaimed historian Bernard Lewis, formerly a great admirer of Islam, said that “Europe would be Islamic by the end of the century.”
He added, “at the very latest.” This leads to a conjecture: Would that leave the USA as the last bastion of the West? Or are we that already?
Is it possible that the Muslims who are for peace and tolerance are the ones who aren’t following the teachings of their religion. Should we wake up and actually start condemning not just the terrorists, but the religion as well?
La Shawn Barber makes an excellent point that none of the reports of the “unrest “in the banlieux makes any mention of the religion of the rioters. Actually I think she’s being a little easy on the whole thing…
Are we breeding our own Intifada? Could we eventually face the same thing in the U.S. that France is dealing with now? Not from the Muslim youth that is at odds with the French government, but from our own home-grown illegal immigrant population.
Today, we are continually witnessing Biblical prophecy happening right before our very eyes!
…Three thousand years ago God inspired King David to predict that the reborn nation of Israel would be immediately surrounded by enemies, including the Arab nations of Jordan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Iraq, Lebanon and Syria.
What has happened to Paris is a massive influx, over a very short period of time, of people whose culture, religion, and language are foreign to Europe. The French have made no effort to assimilate these people, and the immigrants have in turn willfully (or perhaps deliberately) dropped out of native French life.
La Shawn said, “I’m done. Carry on.”
Thank you, I will!
I’ve posted this here several times, but I’ll do so again. This nonsense is going to continue until we start fighting these slugs like we fought the Republican Guard in March 2003 - without mercy, and certainly without being so scared about what other people will think of us.
La Shawn, you called some liberals “emasculated.” Well, I’m afraid it’s the Bush administration that is emasculated.
Comment by James E — 11.03.05 @ 9:08 am
Funny how the rioters are described as immigrants, youths, but you really need a fine toothed comb to find where they’re described as Muslims.
Comment by Jack Tanner — 11.03.05 @ 9:26 am
Paris Riots
Some are calling it the European Intifada. Shifts in the world’s population are causing new struggles for dominance. This has been going on for days, but you don’t hear a lot about it.
Trackback by Commonplace — 11.03.05 @ 9:39 am
Lashawn, I read your words often, and still find myself wondering where you are coming from. [Offensive and presumptuous remarks deleted] You tend to shy away from realities that are happening to people around the world because of America’s foreign policies. No WMD’s, right? But you still think they should be there dying and killing. Study Islam it is a religion of peace, but you do have the right to defend yourself. I agree that there are some of the practices of Islam that must be challenged, but I also think that some of the practices of so-called Christianity must be challenged. Never the less, I don’t agree with alot of what you say, but I will continue to check in on your blog to see what you have to say about the latest world events.
Comment by T. Jack — 11.03.05 @ 9:44 am
Is it Plagiarism if you lift my thoughts?
Comment by sharon — 11.03.05 @ 9:57 am
Ce n’est pas grave
This is today’s Ipso Facto cartoon
Trackback by Ipso Facto Cartoon Blog — 11.03.05 @ 10:00 am
While these ‘youths’ are Muslim, they are also French, or at least for the most part born in France.
While French immigration policies may be connected to this, it isn’t the immigration policies of today or even the 90s that brought these families to France, most of that happened in the 70s and earlier.
While the Muslim aspect of this is problem, part of the blame must also lie on the French people, who won’t accept a Muslim immigrant, or even the child of a Muslim immigrant as being ‘French.’ French tribalism is as much a part of the problem as Muslim tribalism.
Comment by Dave Justus — 11.03.05 @ 10:31 am
Welcome to the America of tomorrow??
Comment by Renee — 11.03.05 @ 10:50 am
Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we rely solely on Christianity, as the force that could do no wrong deed.
Perhaps we should praise Christianity for being what it once was to this country, and how it was once morbidly entangled in the justification of slavery, or better yet, what the representation of Christianity has become as it has been so putridly minimalized in the court of public opinion as the force of “morality” that the right has attempted to portray.
Quick question (since we’re referencing an underlying culture of extremism), does Christianity willfully support the assassination of Hugo Chavez, or was Pat Robertson off the mark with Christianity when he made the suggestion.
I wouldn’t want to point out any inherent contradictions.
Comment by Daniel Druilhet — 11.03.05 @ 10:50 am
Too many weapons in private hands in America for this to happen on a widespread scale here.
Rioting muslims wouldn’t get 50′ into my neighborhood before they were rendered inert. The first one torched a car would be summarily shot and tossed into the canal as gator bait.
Comment by Purple Avenger — 11.03.05 @ 10:59 am
Parisian Jihad
The riots in Paris and surrounding cities continued for a seventh night last night.
Trackback by Below The Beltway — 11.03.05 @ 10:59 am
I think you’re right. We can expect the same if we start acting like Europeans, and attack ourselves more than our attackers.
Comment by Darwin Finch — 11.03.05 @ 11:03 am
Religion of Peace
And the answer is: Because the ultimate result of having your head violently separated from your body is the attainment of an eternal state of peace.
Trackback by Quantum Catfish — 11.03.05 @ 11:05 am
Daniel Druilhet … you should not kiss a muslim’s … as you french do so well. You compare christanity to islam, you are … or being obtuse.
ronnied
[Edited to remove name-calling]
Comment by ronnied — 11.03.05 @ 11:18 am
A Week of Riots and The Still Won’t Tell Us Who’s Rioting.
It is a fact that the majority of the “youths” and “gangs” who have been rioting outside Paris for a week now are Muslims.
You will not find that fact reported directly in this Washington Post story.
You will read the rioters…
Trackback by The Sundries Shack — 11.03.05 @ 11:29 am
Sorry, T Jack - WMD HAVE been found, and more are likely in Iran and Syria.
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/11/2/220331.shtml
And until our impotent Republicans get some guts to inspect and/or invade these terrorist regimes, we will be guessing.
Comment by Frank Zavisca — 11.03.05 @ 11:39 am
Daniel
The answer to your question lies with the Bible (not Pat Robertson mouth). Perhaps you should read it in its entirety
Comment by Renee — 11.03.05 @ 11:45 am
LGF above does a great job in covering the war on terror and the RoP (Religion of Peace…their term.) La Shawn writes about the Paris riots happening here. Paris is reaping what it’s sown, and if we don’t heed the warnings (as if the murder of thousands and destruction of two buildings in New York City weren’t enough), we can expect the same.
Pingback by RandyThomas.info — 11.03.05 @ 12:09 pm
What can I say but, “You Go, Girl!” The devil-possesed “prophet” has left fourteen bloody centuries in his wake - when is enough enough? Islam isn’t just incompatible with individual liberty, it’s incompatible with the very notion of civilized society itself. Islam has time and again shown that it inevitably gives rise to bloody tyranny that makes the French Revolution look like a let-them-eat-cakewalk.
(As an aside for those that think I’m name-calling, it was Mohammad that claimed he was clearly posessed, not just by demons, but by Satan himself. This is why the “Satanic Verses” are so offensive to Muslims - they essentially disprove Mohammed’s status as a prophet using his own words.)
Comment by Dub Dublin — 11.03.05 @ 12:27 pm
Folks, we’re not immune to this stuff just because the immigrants that we are letting in are mostly Hispanic. When a country is not selective about which immigrants it admits, and gives no thought to the education level, cultural background, and assimilability of the immigrants, conflict becomes more, not less likely. I am sure a lot of people are saying “whew, glad we’re taking in a bunch of nannies and dishwashers instead of those wacky Muslims,” but I have my doubts about whether the goals of, say, MALDEF and CAIR are really all that different. Both are antagonistic toward American traditions, language, and culture and would, if they could, replace it with an undemocratic, collectivist state based on ethnicity and/or religion.
Comment by Gary — 11.03.05 @ 12:50 pm
The MSM (at the behest of Euro govt’s no doubt) appears to be trying to cover up the extent and severity of Islamic violence taking place right now all across Europe. A good overview of the situation is here:
http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/429
Fianlly, this essay by Theodore Dalyrymple at City Journal is linked to from the above - it’s especially insightful and forthright in its analysis - La Shawn, you should consider adding a link to this on your front page:
http://www.city-journal.org/html/15_4_suicide_bombers.html
Comment by Dub Dublin — 11.03.05 @ 12:56 pm
Secret Prisons, fine by me!
I definitely agree with La Shawn Barber on this one! Being soft does not work!
Trackback by Independent Conservative — 11.03.05 @ 1:11 pm
“Those Muslim rioters in Paris, angry about being unemployed or whatever their excuse, need to be crushed.”
In the first article I read about the rioting, I learned that two teenageers had been executed by electrocution.
Ummmm…we ain’t talkin’ about Texas, where such things are the freaking norm.
Comment by jackie — 11.03.05 @ 1:43 pm
Police in Victoria (BC?) are being told to hold Muslims to a different standard for domestic violence???? Oh my—this is the end of civilization as we know it!
Comment by Michele — 11.03.05 @ 2:06 pm
I think that blaming it on Islamism is a bit of a stretch. There are a lot of problems with Dhimmitude, political correctness etc but I think that quite a lot of the reasons of this riot are the same as LA’s Rodney King riots rather than anything specifically religious
More at my blog: http://www.di2.nu/blog.htm?20051103
Comment by Francis — 11.03.05 @ 2:12 pm
French rioters continue to prove multiculturalist relativism a dismal failure
“Rioting Spreads to 20 Towns Around Paris” (from AP) as rioters shoot at police and firefighters.
Trackback by Jihad Watch — 11.03.05 @ 2:40 pm
Violence Escalates! France in Retreat!
As the violence continues to escalate in France, the attacks against Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy continue to increase as well.
Trackback by Gateway Pundit — 11.03.05 @ 2:42 pm
The British were nearly overwhelmed and destroyed because they appeased Hitler and fascism, as if giving up tawdry trinkets like Czechoslovakia and the Sudetenland were something good.
The French are in danger of doing the same, but inside their own capital! I completely agree with you La Shawn, the French are idiots, and on the edge of a real civil war if they don’t do something about this.
But then again there is no simple solution is there? Frankly I think that education is the key but that takes time, and arresting virulent hate-spewing preachers is temporary as they are quickly replaced by those they have already trained.
Like you said, crush them. The French should not be apologizing for tear gas, they should be screaming for M16s and grenades. The muslim youth wants a fight, give them one and wipe them out. If that sounds cruel and extreme, remember this is what the muslim youth is doing. Fight fire with fire.
Comment by the english guy — 11.03.05 @ 2:54 pm
Ce N’est Pas Grave
Oh how apropos! Ce n’est pas grave!
The french riots have been going on for a week now and escalating with shots fired at the police, the muslim “youth” destroying, as Captain Ed points out, what von Choltitz refused to. I found a g…
Trackback by The English Guy — 11.03.05 @ 3:02 pm
Hello !
I am French and as you are a Black woman, I am going to tell you something really ridiculous about the French: our word to say “black” is “noir”… but “noir” is considered racist, visibly… (why, is it that bad to be black ???)… so we use the ENGLISH word “black” to say “noir”… !!! but of course it means the same. When the english word “black” will be considered racist, what word will we use ? I wonder. I hate all this politically correct hypocrisy. I think people who cannot say the words are the racists… maybe they are so frightened by their own inner racism that they need to accuse the others constantly ?
Same remark about the word “youth”. Everybody knows, in France, that when a journalist says “youth” it means “Arab / immigrant”. It has become ridiculous. Don’t you think a society which is not able to NAME things is a sick society ?
Anyway, thank you so much for your site. I will pass the link to as many people I can. What you say about the French riots is incredibly true and believe me, it is not at all what the media say in France.
The thing is, all that creates extreme right votes and it is not going to end up in a very peaceful configuration, I am afraid.
Take care,
Elisabeth, Paris
Comment by Elisabeth — 11.03.05 @ 4:09 pm
Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah.
– Koran 8:39
It’s sentiments like this that Moslems juice up on five time daily; they take on a full tank every Friday down at the local mosque.
Comment by Chaz MarteL 732 — 11.03.05 @ 4:18 pm
Jackie:
“In the first article I read about the rioting, I learned that two teenageers had been executed by electrocution.
Ummmm…we ain’t talkin’ about Texas, where such things are the freaking norm.”
The two teanagers were not “executed” Jackie. They foolishly went running away from police who were NOT chasing them and got themselves killed in the process. What this has to do with capital punishment in Texas is beyond my comprehension. However, you are free to move to the liberal blogs and chatrooms where they discuss excuses like this with no basis in reality.
Jon
Comment by Jon — 11.03.05 @ 4:25 pm
Why Yes, Paris Is Burning
Ed Morrissey compares the Muslim riots in Paris with General von Choltitz’s refusal to carry out Hitler’s mad plans in 1944 to burn Paris to the ground to present Allied liberators with a wasteland. “What von Choltitz preserved, Paris’ own…
Trackback by Ed Driscoll.com — 11.03.05 @ 4:57 pm
AS usual your remarks are right on the mark.
That is not just me saying that. I say your blog linked on two blogs I was reading on the subject.
You go girl!!
Comment by Richard — 11.03.05 @ 5:42 pm
I’d caution against definitively ascribing a Islamic characteristic to the riots based on the fact that most rioters are Muslim. That may sound like a bit of doublespeak, but I’ve seen nothing to indicate a religious link with the riots, and one truth I’ve seen is that when an Islamic riot is going on (e.g. the “Qu’ran flushing” riots) this connection is usually obviously and explicitly made. On first glance, I’d deem the motivation more political and less religious.
Further discussion on this here.
Comment by submandave — 11.03.05 @ 5:58 pm
Is Islam Inherently Incompatible With Individual Liberty?
I agree [with La Shawn], in that I think that only the modern, so-called "moderate" forms of Islam are compatible with individual liberty. The form practiced by my friend Mohzin in college, that that sees "jihad" as a spiritual, in…
Trackback by DOUBLE TOOTHPICKS — 11.03.05 @ 6:20 pm
– As I see it, the religion of Islam is inherently incompatible with the concept of individual liberty, a crucial component of western countries. –
Bless you, dear. It’s high time we started saying so where others can hear.
Be not afraid.
Comment by Francis W. Porretto — 11.03.05 @ 6:39 pm
Links and Minifeatures 11 03 Thursday
Number one sign that Alito will be confirmed: Democrats Push to Delay Alito Hearings….
Trackback by Searchlight Crusade — 11.03.05 @ 6:41 pm
Riots in Paris show that the situation in Europe..
And all because jelly-spined leaders cannot bring themselves to stand up and take a hard-lined position against these Muslim monsters who’re committing the crimes. Even Denmark is now having problems with Arab/Muslim immigrants rioting and causing on…
Trackback by Tel-Chai Nation — 11.03.05 @ 6:47 pm
You are right on the money on this one, La Shawn.
Of course, not all Muslims advocate violence, but that may be because like many Christians, Jews, and others, they do not take seriously what seem to be the tenets of their faith.
The First Amendment of the United States Constitution guarantees religious freedom (even for Christians, although that is becoming questionable). Muslims should be free to practice their religion in the United States; however, there is the concept of compelling interest that has long been recognized to limit certain religious practices. That’s why laws were passed against the official Mormon practice of polygamy. The state argued it had a compelling interest in prohibiting it, so there was no concern about violating the First Amendment.
If Islam continues to be recognized as a religion of violence, perhaps there may be compelling interest in limiting how it is practiced in the U.S.
Radical idea?
Ask the French.
Ask the British.
Ask the Spanish.
Ask New York, Washington, and Pennsylvania.
If, indeed, Islam, is a “religion of peace,” the burden of proof is upon Muslims to demonstrate it.
Christians are quick to decry and to distance themselves from abortion clinic bombers claiming to act in the name of Christ. The denouncing of Islamic violence seems to be but murmurs from the Muslim community.
Comment by Mike — 11.03.05 @ 7:35 pm
La Shawn Barber’s Corner » Paris Riots: Coming to an American Street Near
Pingback by TexasXtreme — 11.03.05 @ 9:01 pm
Good post, La Shawn! Riots in France? Must be a Karl Rove plot. And here I was thinking that France was our moral, intellectual, and cultural better. The MSM in this country have told us so, anyway.
Old Europe versus radical Muslim rioters, or to be more accurate, Eurofascism versus Islamofascism. Does anyone have any doubt how that contest will finally end? This is not even a close call - no normal person is foolish enough to fight and possibly die for multi-culturalism, the super-welfare state, and pornography-as-art. Only a sucker would bet against the guys with the turbans and long beards. Demographics alone will give al Qaeda victory by default in a few decades.
Here is an unpleasant thought. Once Old Europe becomes a caliph, we will have Chirac and others from Old Europe’s Old Fogies’ Club washing up on our shores like so much refuse demanding America sacrifice the blood of her soldiers to make Europe safe again for eagle-bashing. Any volunteers?
Or am I being too pessimistic La Shawn?
Comment by Mwalimu Daudi — 11.03.05 @ 9:35 pm
Hmmmm. Several disparate thoughts:
1. Throughout the various European countries, the Muslims seem to clump tightly together.
2. I have not seen many signs that the Muslim youth in various European countries are particularly religious or even try to avoid “wine, women and song.”
3. The Muslims in various European countries seem to run afoul of the law at a rate disproportionate to their population.
4. The Muslim sections of cities in various European countries are far from prosperous.
5. Islam is the tie that binds these people and that includes those who hardly practice the religion. But if an outside force pushes against them, they will use Islam as their identity.
6. Muslims must find a way and make the effort to meld into the host culture or they will be segregated and kept segregated in an evermore escalating spiral of clashes.
7. Liberals (in my experience) who practice a religion only engage in religions of convenience that permit them to chart their own moral codes and destinies. Therefore, liberals look at religious beliefs as negotiable. The point being that Liberal Europe acts out of the belief that Muslims can be persuaded to change their beliefs.
8.Making war on Islamofascism is a thorny problem at best because the “enemy” is apt to be anywhere and he does not play by the simplest of rules of war, such as wearing a uniform of identity.
9. We are fast approaching the point where every Muslim is suspect of at least “looking the other way.”
Comment by heliotrope — 11.03.05 @ 10:00 pm
Great job on pointing out the truth La Shawn. Check soundofgrace.org for a great Christian persepctive on this very topic. “A Christian Response to Muslim Terrorism” by Clyde F. Autio. It’s on Pastor John Reisinger’s site in the “current issues” section. Part One was last month and was really good. November’s Part Two is just up now. You and everyone should check it out. Very insightful.
Comment by Laurie — 11.04.05 @ 1:49 am
Le Intifada — 8 days and counting
(Ipso Facto cartoon) Paris Riots Spread to 20 Suburbs — A week of riots in poor neighborhoods outside Paris gained dangerous new momentum Thursday, with youths shooting at police and firefighters and attacking trains and symbols of the French state.
Trackback by Small Town Veteran — 11.04.05 @ 2:49 am
What an excellent post! I love the word “Islamofascism” and intend to use it if that’s okay. I don’t know if it’s original to you or not.
Anyways, here’s a post of mine where I used the word “Muslim” in the title: http://ruminationsbythelake.blogspot.com/2005/10/muslim-teens.html
God bless.
Comment by Ian Clary — 11.04.05 @ 8:52 am
La Shawn Barber’s Corner - Paris Riots: Coming to
Please read her post about why the rioters in Paris should not be generically labelled as “French youth.” Rather, they are Islamic radicals (i.e. consistent Koran readers) bent on destroying western ideals.
Trackback by Ruminations By The Lake — 11.04.05 @ 9:02 am
Thanks, Ian. I got the term from radio talk show host Michael Savage. I don’t think he’d mind if you used it, too.
Comment by La Shawn — 11.04.05 @ 9:02 am
“PARIS UNREST” = MUSLIM IMMIGRANT GANG VIOLENCE
The blogosphere has the best ongoing coverage, commentary, and analysis of the Muslim immigrant gang violence (otherwise known in the politically correct MSM as the “Paris unrest”) that has plagued France for more than week. Here’s a sample of the…
Trackback by Michelle Malkin — 11.04.05 @ 9:13 am
Hopefully, LaShawn Barber is not prophetic in postulating that this will soon be coming to the streets of America. I callously use the word “hopefully” for the dogma that is emanated through being “politically correct,” and our approaches to the Muslim population here in America do not comfort those of us who are concerned with the defiance shown by a large sect of Muslims since 9/11. Common sense illustrates that Barber is somewhat correct for we have taken an approach spearheaded by France here in discouraging assimilation for the sake of remaining politically correct.
Pingback by Publius Rendezvous — 11.04.05 @ 9:42 am
Riots Getting Worse in France?
Jamey Keaten from the AP reports in the Washington Post that the riots in France continue and are threatening to spiral out of control.Riots erupted in an outburst of anger in Clichy-sous-Bois over the accidental electrocution Oct. 27 of two
Trackback by Weapons of Mass Destruction — 11.04.05 @ 9:43 am
Paris Burns
Chirac Fiddles
Now we know which historical leader Chirac admires… Nero
France needs to impose a curfew and enforce it with bullets…once the behavior is under control then, and only then, can discussion led to a permanent solution
Comment by Marvin — 11.04.05 @ 9:43 am
Immigration
The riots in Paris are being called all sorts of things but everyone seems to agree that large numbers of un-assimilated (mostly…
Trackback by Marked Up — 11.04.05 @ 9:58 am
Right on Lashawn. I have been reading liberal blogs, daily Kos, Air American, the Nation, Progressive, Huffington, not one mentions the riots. The NYT time does no more than mention them, and does its best not to insert “muslim”. Don’t imagine liberals that the rest of us don’t know who is rioting.
Comment by Anita — 11.04.05 @ 9:59 am
It will happen here real soon and that is what the real power wants. they won’t be a crack down on anything until the government is in Muslim hands, this is what you get when you have massive immigration and it will happen here.
Comment by Fred Dawes — 11.04.05 @ 10:23 am
We need to wake up and realize that this era is the era of a great confrontation between the West and Islam. Living together in “peace’is a wonderful dream but I believe the dynamics of the West’s political philosophy of liberty and democracy are fundamentally at odds with Islam and Sharia. The West pursues the dream of living free but Islam pursues the dream of living virtuously. One is allied with Science in a pursuit of creating a knowledge of the heavens, while the other is dedicated to completing the journey to heaven.
The West must repel the Islamic challenge now before it is overrun. President Nixon foresaw this eventual crisis and for-casted that this would result in the collapse and destruction of the West because we would not take the threat seriously until the peril was at our door steps.
Were I President of the Untied States I would marshal a last grand NATO alliance to repel the Islamic invasion by ending immigration to Europe, institute the deportation of all Moslem’s from Europe regardless of their citizenship status, promote the rapid increase in the national fertility rates of each NATO country member,open the European economy to low or no-tariff global free trade(especially in agricultural goods)and end the obstructive and deadly economic rules and controls that prevent investment and competition, restore national service, increase ties with the BRICS( Brazil, Russia,India, China and South Africa) and reduce dependence on POL.
This confrontation will be the most serious that the west has faced since 456 AD. If we fail we will go down and it may take 1000 years or more before we return to [Western]global leadership
The alternative may lead to global thermonuclear war.
Bruce in Charleston.
Comment by Bruce — 11.04.05 @ 10:26 am
I was thinking that the same thing could so easily happen here.
Comment by Ruth — 11.04.05 @ 10:26 am
LaShawn - I lived in several Muslim countries during the past 3 decades, including Turkey, Jordan, and Saudi Arabia. My experiences there can’t be further than you opinion that:
“You’re either a Muslim or in danger of having your throat sliced open.”
Have you lived in a Muslim country? Have you even visited one?
I am a Catholic and found these countries to be warm, friendly, and inviting, for the most part. Sure, there were unfriendly sorts, but hey, I live in Washington DC now and there are plenty of unfriendly sorts here!
Fact is, most Muslims are not drooling fanatics looking to behead a pagan or non-believer. It may seem shocking to you, but they are people with families, friends, and lives. And even more shocking, they are quite conservative in their views and can’t understand the prurience and filth that pours out of America and its culture.
Comment by Red Bull — 11.04.05 @ 10:34 am
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Today’s dose of NIF - News, Interesting & Funny … Another sweet Friday (+ Open Trackbacks)
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Is It Time for Religious Intolerance
As Americans, we instinctively respect the cultures of others because that’s what we’re taught, but I was reading this post…
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French Muslim Riots Continue
“Paris Muslim Riots” may not apply much longer as rioting is now taking place in at least 20 suburbs of Paris. Why all the rioting you ask? A couple Muslim teenagers were electrocuted when they entered a power substation and got fried. …
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La Shawn, Paris Riots: Coming to an American Street Near You : A growing problem in the West is not only our insane, suicidal embrace of �multiculturalism,� but an inability to recognize that Islam is an enemy intent on destroying freedom wherever it exists. Those Muslim rioters in Paris, angry about being unemployed or whatever their excuse, need to be crushed.
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La Shawn,
“Lax immigration policies, prostration to the god of multiculturalism, and the refusal to fight fire with fire are three reasons why Muslim “youths†in Paris are rioting in the streets.” As you say these are just 3 of the reasons. Do you think France’s history as a colonial power has anything to do with it? France has many interests in countries around the globe. Most of the immigrants are from countries France has exploited or otherwise received something from over the years. Many of the young French are the children of immigrants who migrated to France to share in the wealth their homelands helped to create, only to be treated as second class citizens. What we’re seeing is former European colonial powers beginning to reap what they’ve sowed. This is happening not only in France but throughout the world. I think the press in the West is using terrorism and the Muslim faith to deflect attention away from the historical policies that helped to create many of the world’s current problems, including here at home.
Comment by Kevin — 11.04.05 @ 11:34 am
Well, Excuuuuuse Me
Chirac is fiddling with his Welfare system while Paris, the surrounding area (and Denmark, by the way) burns at the hands of incredibly well organzied, disenfranchied, Muslim and North African (also Muslm) youths, proving further that the Muslim reli…
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Red Bull,
Please tell my Catholic friend that had to flee from his homeland of Iraq how warm and friendly it is there.
Comment by Nylecoj — 11.04.05 @ 11:43 am
Civil War in Europe?
From most mainstream (or lamestream) media you still wouldn’t know that a momentous story is developing in Europe. For the eighth consecutive day Ramadan fires are torching hundreds of vehicles and buildings and threatening to spread beyond France’s …
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“The law must be applied firmly”, but “in a spirit of dialogue and respect”.
Ya’ see, Mr. Chirac, that’s where you go wrong in all of this.
Comment by Michele — 11.04.05 @ 12:02 pm
Does the author of this blog have ever been to France ???
First, the riots are not in Paris and there is nothing about islamism in those riots.
It’s much closer to what happened in L.A. (not that worst) than to what happened in Israel or anywhere else in the middle East.
No, the “author” has never been to France but would LOVE to visit. About the “riots are not in Paris” remark, I certainly hope you’re e-mailing all those news organizations reporting “riots in Paris.” - Admin
Comment by Nicoolas — 11.04.05 @ 12:06 pm
Hello,
I still fail to realise how exactly this has got to do with radical Islam. It has nothing to do with radical Islam. NOTHING.
Are most of the rioters Muslim, yes? But they are not fighting and rioting because they believe in some jihad concept (like OBL, Taliban, Al-Quida)! THey are just upset with the discrimination that they face as Muslims, that’s all. The people involved are not the terrorist that we are figthing on “war on terror”… these are just upset immigrants, who happen to be MUslim. Actually let me take the “immigrant” out… THESE ARE FRENCH BORN Muslims, NOT immigrants, who have never bene thought of as “french” in french society.
And to also note… European Muslims and American Muslims, are two differnet classes. European Muslims seem to be poor and uneducated. American Muslims are actually the MOST educated in America, along wth one of the richest populations in America. What drives terrorism and riots like these, are poverty… Muslim American do not have this problem.
salaam
Comment by Athird — 11.04.05 @ 12:10 pm
Red Bull
How often were you able to attend Mass during your three years in Muslim countries?
Even Saddam was charming as long as everybody did what he wanted…
Comment by suek — 11.04.05 @ 12:14 pm
La Shawn,
I think your headline is wrong. There are just too many armed patriots in the US, that will shoot those that try to burn their property!
Comment by Don — 11.04.05 @ 12:18 pm
The Passive Voice in Riots
La Shawn Barber makes an excellent point that none of the reports of the “unrest “in the banlieux makes any mention of the religion of the rioters. Actually I think she’s being a little easy on the whole thing, one theng that strikes me is a remarka…
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Good piece La Shawn. I have put a bit of a different take on the riots and how they relate to the U.S. on my blog.
Comment by Ron Stephens — 11.04.05 @ 12:41 pm
Red Bull -
You bring up an interesting point. It is a little known fact that as bad and nasty as Saddam undeniably was, Iraq under his rule had a sizable Christian minority that worshipped freely in Christian churches. Tariq Aziz, Iraq’s foreign minister under Saddam, was a Christian! And there was even a small community of Jews in Iraq.
Christians also make up a fairly large minority among Palestinians, and hold high positions within the leadership. Anan Ashwari, leading spokesperson for Palestinians, is that rare combination as a leader in the Middle East: both Christian and a woman.
You cannot imagine such a thing in many of the countries in the Middle East that we count as our “allies”, such as Saudi Arabia and Pakistan. Saudi Arabia is the virtual source of militant, extremist, anti-American Islam - a rabid sect known as Wahabbism. In both Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, Islamic fundamentalist groups with known ties to terrorism are both based and funded.
It all makes me wonder why we invaded Iraq, when it was just about the most western, secular regime in the entire region. And it is not really Islam, per se, but rather Islamic fundamentalism (indeed, religious extremism of any kind) that is the enemy of humankind.
Comment by Aaron — 11.04.05 @ 12:45 pm
Riots in France Herald the Coming of Islam!
Riots in France Herald the Coming of Islam!
Rioting, burning and looting have been plaguing Paris for a week now. Muslims (religion of peace) have been fighting North African Christians in the poverty stricken areas of Paris. Prime Minister Dominiq…
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sorry - previous post in response to suek #70
Comment by Aaron — 11.04.05 @ 12:54 pm
Muslim Thugs Riot In Paris For 8th Night
Muslim thugs — operating under the guise of unfairness — rioted for an 8th night, shooting at police and burning down 20 towns throughout Paris district. These are Muslim’s, that are immigrants to a country that invited them in and…
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Blah, the only reason the riots continue is that the French can’t figure out who to surrender to
Comment by Yogurt — 11.04.05 @ 1:13 pm
Great minds think alike.
I just posted about this very thing on my blog and am seriously annoyed that they are calling them “youths” like a bunch of scared chickens. I’ll link to you, now.
Comment by RepJ — 11.04.05 @ 1:19 pm
Intifada in France
An online chatroom buddy brought this idea to mind about there being an intifada in Paris. According to the dictionary, “intifada” means rebellion, or more literally “shaking off”. Sounds a lot like what is going on in France.
Trackback by Republican Jen — 11.04.05 @ 1:26 pm
“How often were you able to attend Mass during your three years in Muslim countries?”
Suek - three decades, not three years. My ability to attend mass depended on where I was in the country. Obviously, there weren’t a lot of Cathlic churches in those areas, just like there aren’t a lot of mosques in Ireland.
I had the most opportunities to attend mass in Turkey, while Saudi Arabia had no Catholic churches (outside of U.S. bases). Turkish people could care less that I was Catholic. There were plenty of Catholics, Orthodox Christians, and even Jews there.
In Saudi Arabia, the rich people where MINO (Muslim in Name Only). Luckily, those were most of my contacts. Wahabbism was still nascent in those days, so there really wasn’t a big backlash against all things non-Muslim or Christian. The government simply discouraged non-Muslim religons and as a result, there weren’t any churches, at least that I could find. I must say though that my time spent in KSA was the shortest of all my Middle East stints, and even then, I stayed in and around ARAMCO, which was like a city in of itself.
However, at no time did I feel threatened, even when dealing with the poorer, less educated, and more devout Muslims in Saudi Arabia.
Jordan was more like Turkey in their attitude towards Westerners and Christians. Suprisingly enough, there are plenty of Catholic churches there. I had no idea before I went that there was such a flourishing Christian community there.
Nylecoj - I’m truly sorry about your friend. I’ve never been to Iraq, so I don’t know much about the place or how Christianity is dealt with there. I can say that you can’t take one person’s hardship in one country and extrapolate that to an entire religion, or region.
On a historical note, remember that the Ottoman (Muslim) Empire had conquered and controlled most of Southeastern Europe/Balkans for hundreds of years. Despite this, Orthodoxy flourished, as did Catholicism in places like southern Croatia and Romania.
If Muslims were hell-bent on killing all infidels, the populations of Greece and the Balkans today would be Muslim. This is not the case.
Comment by Red Bull — 11.04.05 @ 1:49 pm
Paris Riots
You’ve been hearing a lot on the news about the “Paris Riots.” Now here’s what you haven’t heard…
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My post yesterday was on the fact that we are witnessing biblical prophecy right before our very eyes. Included within the prophecies are names of the ancient nations (and their current day names)that would rise up against Israel in the End Times.
The Muslim riots happening in Paris is just more indication that these people cannot be appeased. They are out to destroy Israel and any nation that doesn’t hate Israel like they do. The lack of preparedness of the Paris government shows how the liberalism of that country makes them so weak and vulnerable. Hope this tragedy finally wakes them up to reality!
Comment by Christine — 11.04.05 @ 2:26 pm
Paris burning - day eight
I love Paris in the springtimeI love Paris in the fall… … but apparently Muslim immigrants living in the suburbs of France’s capital of five million don’t exactly share Cole Porter’s sentiments. Today is the eighth day of riots in
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Oops. Posted the wrong link. That’s what happens when I have too many windows open! I don’t know how to correct it, so I will repost the correct link here. Sorry about that LaShawn!
Comment by Christine — 11.04.05 @ 2:30 pm
Paris Riots: A glimpse into America’s future?
I came across La Shawn Barber’s Corner for the first time today and found this excellent post: Paris Riots: Coming to an American Street Near You. It is chock full of facts and links to others sources of information on the the muslim riots in Paris…
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More “peaceful” protests by muslims
La shawn Barbers corner has an excellent take on what this really is. Is this just a riot by a bunch of youths as most headlines are reporting? no it is more sinister than that.
“Paris is reaping what it’s sown, and if we don’t heed the warnings (as…
Trackback by The Citizens Journal — 11.04.05 @ 3:21 pm
You were asking whether any papers were using Muslim in the headline, but the only mentions I see are related to where the rioting is occurring, not who is rioting. An example is:
French Leaders Unable To Reach Plan To Stem Riots in Muslim Areas.
Comment by lawhawk — 11.04.05 @ 3:27 pm
French Muslim riots roil the Blogosphere
A semi-random round-up of blogosphere coverage of the Muslim riots in Paris…
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“inherently incompatible with the concept of liberty.”
Exactly! Speak that truth!
Delving deeper, Islam is inherently incompatible with the concept of ‘free will’. Islamic ’submission’ is about ridding your life of temptation, as a Muslim does not believe they have the ‘free will’ to resist certain temptations.
Its often asked: ‘Are we at war with Islam?’
We are at ideological war with whatever portion of the Islamic world does not believe in free will.
Comment by gcotharn — 11.04.05 @ 4:23 pm
The riots occuring dans les banlieues de Paris are pretty frightening stuff, but even I’m surprised at how predictable some of the MSM and blogger reactions are. Opinions range from the utterly naive to the unsurprisingly xenophobic.
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A lot is being read into the Paris rioting, some going so far as to imply that this says something about the essential nature of Islam, and others saying this is a preview of what will happen in this country if we “tolerate” muslims.
At the risk of sounding PC, I would only point out that youths rioting in Paris - be they Muslim or whatever - is nothing new at all. Every few years, Paris experiences civil disturbances for one reason or another. The rioting was much much worse during the student uprisings in Paris in 1968 - and that had nothing to do with Muslims.
Much much worse still is the rioting going on right now in Argentina against Bush: http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/americas/11/04/bush.summit/index.html
These riots make the clashes in Paris seem puny. Are we now to suppose that there is something deeply evil in the nature of Argentinians?
Comment by Aaron — 11.04.05 @ 5:36 pm
Speaking of riots…
“When the strongest nation in the world can be tied up for … years in a war … with no end in sight, when the richest nation in the world can’t manage its own economy, when the nation with the greatest tradition of the rule of law is plagued by unprecedented lawlessness, … and when the President of the United States cannot travel abroad or to any major city at home without fear of a hostile demonstration - then it’s time for new leadership for the United States of America.â€
— Richard Nixon, 1968
Comment by Aaron — 11.04.05 @ 6:14 pm
Boo…
Hiss…Aaron!
Of course, how typical of someone who gets his info from CNN…a.k.a. the Communist News Network.
The Argentinian protest turned dinky ‘riot’ was most likely Staged!
Comment by Christine — 11.04.05 @ 7:06 pm
Re: #93
Do I detect yet another Nixon comeback in the works, this time in 2008? Makes sense - he is squeaky clean compared to Hilly the Hun!
Nixon in ‘08! As a Democrat this time of course.
Comment by Mwalimu Daudi — 11.04.05 @ 8:48 pm
In a further night of rioting, the troubles have now spread beyond Paris. If reports are correct, even as far as Denmark. We recently had similar scenes in Britain too, though apparently for different reasons. Some argue the French riots to be a trainingexercise, others a result of not addressing anti-Semitism, immigration, non-assimilation, terrorism, insurgency, jihad, the fault of Islam, etc. Some Americans are worrying that they’re next, though as some bloggers earlier pointed out to me, they’ve already had similar scenes in New Orleans and Toledo.
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Re: #92
“Every few years, Paris experiences civil disturbances for one reason or another.”
Aaron, it’s nice to know something in Old Europe still works like it’s supposed to.
Comment by Mwalimu Daudi — 11.04.05 @ 9:04 pm
UPDATE: The above story caused LaShawn Barber to state the following: As I see it, the religion of Islam is inherently incompatible with the concept of individual liberty, a crucial component of western countries. It’s no accident that a culture like the West and a nation like the United States were envisioned and created by people who were either Christians and/or biblically literate and/or respected the Christian tradition. In countries under Islamic law, there’s no such idea as “individual liberty.†You’re either a Muslim or in danger of having your throat sliced open. I don’t think she is correct. Christian societies have been guilty of violence and intolerance as extreme as any other religion. And a literal interpretation of the laws lay down in, for example, Leviticus would constrain individual liberty in ways quite similar to literal devotion to Sharia. Religions evolve. Islam isn’t inherently incompatible with violence or peace.
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AS a Christian I know that Christianity is not about democracy. God lays down the laws and expects us follow them. I don’t seen anywhere in my bible where God ever asked anyone for their opinion or vote. God is omniscient and all powerful, truly the first and last word.
Comment by Kevin — 11.04.05 @ 11:21 pm
From the indispensable La Shawn Barber. Paris is reaping what it’s sown, and if we don’t heed the warnings (as if the murder of thousands and destruction of two buildings in New York City weren’t enough), we can expect the same.
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France is not a “Christian” country. It is secular and anti-religious. There is discrimination against North Africans and blacks, some of whom are Christians. My born again Congolese friend lived there- in the ghetto suburbs- les banlieux- and he said the discrimination was horrible.
This is not a Muslim issue- it’s a poverty issue and shames the secular humanism of the French.
Comment by April — 11.04.05 @ 11:35 pm
Sorry, I lived in France for 2 years and your description of it as a place with “Lax immigration policies, prostration to the god of multiculturalism, and the refusal to fight fire with fire” is completely backwards.
There is no western nation more opposed to the idea of multiculturalism than france. French liberals and conservatives alike will tell you that it’s a purely “Anglo-saxon” invention. The only acceptable option in France is absolute assimilation to their idea of “Frenchness” The immigration laws are much stricter than ours - Muslim clerics get expelled for preaching undemocratic values. and there is constant tough talk about getting tough on immigrants (see Sarkozy, or worse, Le Pen and his 18%).
You could not have picked a worse country to make your case. If anything France should be an American conservative’s paradise. But you know what? It’s been a total failure. the french talk till they’re blue in the face about how there can only be “French” citizens, not hyphenated “Arab-French”, “African-French” etc. somehow that hasn’t made the ghettos vanish. you basically have traditional white french people, a few arabs (& others) who’ve fully adopted white french ways, and the remaining arabs who are considered suspect b/c they are not indistinguishable from white people. just watching the officials on french tv, it is clear how out of touch they are with this segment of french society.
It’s well past time someone stood up for America’s “liberal” approach to ethnicity. We have our divisions but I’ll say this - go into any inner city black neighborhood here and you’ll find black cops who stand for law & order as much as the next cop but don’t hide the fact that they’re black and that black culture belongs as much to them as to any gangbanger. same goes for latinos. compare that to the CRS (french nat’l cops) in the projects- they look like a foreign occupying army. America has lots of people who bridge cultural gaps. France’s obsession with forcing everyone into the preexisting notion of Frenchness hasn’t worked. Too many people are still outside it and the “real” french refuse to deal with that, since their ideal works in theory. They have no idea what to do now b/c authority is held exclusively by traditional french elitists, they have no one who’s used to the streets and knows how to stand up to the thugs. That’s what a get tough conservative approach gets you.
Comment by kurt — 11.05.05 @ 12:09 am
one of these days someone is going to connect the dots. Soccer is the indoctrination to internationalism. If America continues to act like them, it will only encourage them. Mom, Apple Pie and Baseball
Or a reccess activity gone amuck.
Comment by John — 11.05.05 @ 12:32 am
April -
Good points. I have heard much the same thing from African-French friends who live in Paris. The French are terribly racist - which is very ironic since they seem always to hypocritically condemn Americans for racism.
While predominantly North African, and hence Muslim, you are also correct in pointing out that there are surely quite a few Christians among the youths engaged in these riots. This doesn’t have to do with religion, but with the tensions built up in an impoverished underclass. That does NOT mean that the violence is anyway justified… but it is also not accurate to say that the violence is somehow inspired by or indicative of Islam.
Comment by Aaron — 11.05.05 @ 1:49 am
La Shawn Barber adds: A growing problem in the West is not only our insane, suicidal embrace of “multiculturalism,†but an inability to recognize that Islam is an enemy intent on destroying freedom wherever it exists. Those Muslim rioters in Paris, angry about being unemployed or whatever their excuse, need to be crushed.
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Due to tight labor regulations, 10% of France is unemployed, 23% of French under 25 are unemployed, and in the Muslim “ghettos” of France, youth unemployment reaches 30%.
The artificial rationing of French jobs means they go only to the most skilled, oldest, and most well-connected French, leaving out most young Muslim immigrants.
The French “Continental” labor model has lead to this. Muslim youth don’t riot in the U.S. because they have a job to go to the next day, and hope for their future careers. In France, immigrants have much less hope.
Let’s compare the Muslim minority in France with the Latino minority in the U.S. The Latino unemployment rate in the U.S. is around 7%, much less than the national unemployment rate in France! Even undocumented workers can go down to the local 7-11 parking lot and get a job for the day in the U.S., and 90% of them make more than the Federal minimum wage.
This is not to excuse any behavior, but it is human nature for idle young men to cause trouble, regardless of race or religion.
Comment by Mr. Econotarian — 11.05.05 @ 4:56 am
La Shawn,
IMHO you are half-wrong. Not about Islam, which gives these young people neither sustenance in spirituality nor hope of a better world to come. You are wrong not to attribute the major part of the blame to the French and to their revolution. Truth is that Liberty, Egality and Fraternity form a triad that mocks the Trinity but, God is not mocked and every now and again the same old vicious cycle of revolutionary violence and unbelief breaks out again.
It was all mapped out in Groen van Prinsterer’s Lectures on Unbelief and Revolution which are best available in English in Harry van Dyke’s book. Islam is a menace, especially for those who believe its tenets but France’s secular revolution is worse and deserves closer examination by ourselves.
Comment by John Kilpatrick — 11.05.05 @ 2:26 pm
“French youths riot for seventh night running. French youths? They make it sound so generic and ordinary, as if a bunch of rowdy, drunk teenagers decided to throw rocks at cars. These are radical Muslims, foreign invaders, destroying property and injuring people who graciously allowed them into their country in the first place!”
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I’m not sure that you really know France or Europe. Dont’t listen to your american TV or papers, they’re kidding you.
France had a empire in Africa during more then a century. Almost half of Africa was French untill the fifties.
So, these young people are french. There are about 15 to 25 years old. They were born in France. There parents were also born in France, because Algeria, Morroco and many West African countries were French when they did it. So it’s much more complicated than a simple “Christians” against “Muslims”. Sorry.
If you want to have a true information : there are a few cities near Paris were radical islamists are strong. Every one knows them, and the police does of course. But in these cities, nothing has yet happened there.
These riots comes from poverty, unempolyment, and very-very aggressive politic from french governement against poor people.
If you know what means “la coupe est pleine” in french. That’s it.
Comment by saint-thomas — 11.05.05 @ 4:46 pm
City Alight
Coming to an American street near you? asks LaShawn Barber, a black female Christian former liberal (and Temple Law grad), as she identifies herself.
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Paris, Burning Up The Blogosphere
More than a week ago, riots began in the Paris suburbs. The rioting followed the electrocution of two teenagers, Bouna Traore and Zyed Benna, who were hiding in a power substation.
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