All that there is left is the marginalization that tancredo’s unconstitutional idea would provide.

“Now, on the other hand, Vicente Fox has suggested that the United States should be wiped off the face of the map, and no one seems to notice.”

Yes, Fox used oblique language to communicate his desire for an end to the US, and not in the way Iran wants to put an end to Israel. We know that Fox likes to bash the yanquis when he gets a chance, but your use of the phrase “wiped off the face of the map” -which to me implies total destruction- seems like you’re deliberately trying to inflate Fox’s intentions to make them equivalent to Iran’s. When Fox says stupid things, like saying Mexicans do the work American blacks wouldn’t do, La Shawn notices. But if it was Fox’s idle chatter about an EU-style confederation, why the comparison to Iran? I’m not sure what you mean by confederation, but get the sense that you feel free trade agreements will eventually put us on the path to the beaurocratic mess the EU is making of itself. I’m doubtful of that. We already have implemented NAFTA and recently CAFTA, which will take effect Jan 1st. Yes, we’re spending money to equip poor countries to deal with a modern, globalized economy. We are upgrading and modernizing their trade infrastructure and methods, and although in the future they might be our competitors in certain industries, it hardly seems to be threatening our existence.

I really dig the conversations here. They’re generally civil and not just a bunch of name calling and moving of goalposts.

Cancelling birthright is the holy grail of immigration policy, along with policing the border. If Bush had done both five years ago, conservatives would be listening with open minds to his worker proposals now.

Admire him as I do, he has showed contempt for the American people on this issue.

It’s hard to see anything being done by either major party about illegal immigration. Most Republicans (including Bush) wet their pants when they are accused of “racism” by Democrats and the MSM. The GOP is not called the “Stupid Party” for nothing.

On this issue – on all issues, really – Democrats and the MSM are lying (How do I know they are lying? It’s easy – their lips move when they talk.). Count on them to search diligently for a solution to illegal immigration the way a mouse diligently searches for a cat. Besides, the MSM and the Democratic Party these days are occupied with other matters. Keeping Saddam Hussein’s boots sparkling clean, for one thing. Exposing the world-wide Jewish/neocon conspiracy is another.

I suspect it will take another 9/11 – a whole series of them probably – before there is a chance that anything gets done about illegal immigration.

In New Orleans, insurers have required the flood control system to be upgraded before any serious reconstruction is done in flood-prone areas.

Likewise, before any of Bush et al’s grandiose plans for “guest workers” has any serious merit, a secure border – i.e. “the fence’ must be built.

Not rocket science.

In voicing my own “solution” to this problem years ago, my own smart-alecky offspring were outraged at my cruelty and insensitivity:

To keep the American-born babies and send their parent(s) back over the border. The citizen-babies would be adopted by American families, and the practice would sharply curtail border-crossing to give birth (naturalization status) in the U.S. And, yes, it’s harsh, but it would address that particular problem.

Merry

Although it’s quite cute to say study the Word, you didn’t answer my question. Deflection is good, but my question to you is what seems to be a violation of God’s Word.

By the way, I study and mediate about God’s Word. Now that we know that, please answer my question.