I like “unpopular” conservatives like Pat Buchanan, Michael Savage, and Tom Tancredo. Lukewarm anything is a turn-off, man. That’s why I’m not fond of RINOs of any kind, or so-called moderates. What the heck is a moderate, anyway?
Those three men are often described as extreme, and extreme is in the eye of the beholder, which is why I avoid using the word. As far as I’m concerned, there’s no such thing as an “extreme leftist,” for example. They’re just leftists to me.
That’s why I read Fred Reed. He’s irreverent and unafraid of what people think of him, something I try to emulate every day on this blog. Fred links to me and a fellow BC (a great guy I met at a blog meet-up last year, William Powell) in his latest column, Attending Rupert’s Wake. He writes:
A story on the site of ABC News led with the lurid headline, “Young Singers Spread Racist Hate.†Now, if young singers have ABC’s bowels in a racial uproar, you can be sure that the singers are white. We all understand that hate is what white people do. Thus it was. A pair of very young girls, calling themselves Prussian Blue, say that they want to maintain the purity of the white race. (Why this is precisely hate eludes me.) Various authorities are quoted as to the effect that they are shocked, appalled, disappointed, and so on.
At about the same time, I found the account of a black man, one Dr. (of what, I wonder?) Kamau Kambon , who while speaking to a panel at the law school of Howard University (a black school in Washington, DC) said that the white race should be exterminated.
The media are extremely (oops!) selective about what they consider newsworthy. If a white person so much as hints at “racial pride,” elitist leftists shout “Racist!” from the rooftops. But when an extremist (there I go again!) black man explicitly states that whites should be exterminated, not a peep.
Do you think that’s right?
Related post: Fred…On Everything?
Update: Independent Conservative has a detailed post on the would-be exterminator of white folks.
Unrelated Update: French and Vulcan African Americans? Some people are too PC for their own good. To quote myself:
I cringe every time I see and hear “African American.†There is no such nationality or race as “African American,†OK? If blacks don’t like the word “black†or whites feel funny saying it, pick a new word. I resent being referred to as “African American,†but if other folks want to be called that, there’s nothing I can do about it. Please, please, please stop using that term.
We are Americans. Most of us are descended from Africans, but we are not Africans. Most were born and raised right here in the good old USA. Do not assume that all blacks want to be called “African American.†Do not make me a lesser American by adding a reference to another continent, one I’ve never even been to, for crying out loud, to my nationality.
Another Update: Arrrgggh! The point of this post is NOT those darn girl singers! Will you people think on a higher level for a change? Frustrates me to no end.
I agree with everything you said. However, I’m curious as to why you said you don’t view the girls’ words as hate. Not knowing what Prussian Blue said, I can’t state whether I think they’re engaging in hate-speech (whatever that is, anyway). Can you clarify this a little more?
Comment by Jackal — 11.14.05 @ 7:58 am
I just wonder why it is so? What is the motivation for it being that way. And do you pay attention to TV commercials regarding blacks and whites, especially black guys with white blonde girls and the dumb white guy?
Comment by maczmo — 11.14.05 @ 8:34 am
One question, how can you say that “wanting to keep the White race pure” is not hateful? Please explain this.
Comment by lukeNC — 11.14.05 @ 9:02 am
You’ll notice I link to La Shawn Barber a lot. That’s because she’s usually right. Go on, click the link, you know you want to.
Pingback by Infinitely Prolonged — 11.14.05 @ 9:12 am
There you go again. Making people think and stuff.
Do you ever quit?!
Comment by Jewels — 11.14.05 @ 9:14 am
(#3) I’m not sure that it isn’t hateful. I think that Mr. Reed is giving it a sort of “lesser evil” status because it’s more of an exclusionary statement than a hate filled one. The girls aren’t calling for the execution of all black people- they’re calling for a “pure white” race.
His point is the hypocracy of a media who will focus on these girls while ignoring a black professor going around teaching people that all white people should be “exterminated”.
Quite a contrast there.
Comment by Jewels — 11.14.05 @ 9:20 am
The media picks and chooses this stuff, and its is mostly based on what sells.
Its almost like, who cares about a black racist man, what can he do? He has no real power. Plus there’s already enough negative news against black people out there.
I remember how during the 1st million man march, lots of the media pounced on farrakhan for his hate filled speeches against jews and whites. Lots of black media reports against this racist crap which isnt seen by the mainstream media.
The bias I see today is in the value given to white people compared to other races, i.e. the “missing white women” phenomena. Not even BET reported much on missing minority women.
Comment by lukeNC — 11.14.05 @ 9:37 am
So a black man is inherently “powerless?” In what way? And virulent racism doesn’t matter if the person displaying it is “powerless,” how ever you’re defining it?
Luke, your rhetoric is endearingly naive and retro, but as long as you behave yourself, I’ll indulge you.
Comment by La Shawn — 11.14.05 @ 9:49 am
The problem with the two girls are not just speaking about “racial pride”. Their songs are pro-Nazi, which means that they believe that the white race is superior to the exclusion (and extermination) of all others. The fact that one of their promo pictures is the both of them posing in baby-tees emblazoned with swastikas is a small clue that there may be something a little more sinister going on here. The other thing would be one of their songs:
(From the article)
“Sacrifice” — a tribute to Nazi Rudolf Hess, Hitler’s deputy Fuhrer
It’s funny how these facts are missing from the comments. Now, I have no problem with any group expressing pride in their group, be it a racial group or a football team. But, when your pride spills over into, “We are the best, and because of that, only we should exist.” And the people you hold up as examples of the pride actually attempted to carry out the mass extinction of another race…it goes a bit beyond the “leftist media” not reporting fairly.
I am a strict First Amendment advocate, so they have every right to produce any kind of music they want. However, I think it’s kind of tacky to hold them up as innocent victims of media bias.
Although I can understand the comparison between the singing group and the good Dr. But, don’t you think attempting to “mainstream” Nazi philosophy is a little more news worthy than some correspondent school doctor speaking on a panel at a law school with an enrollment of 450? Not trying justify or excuse his statements because they are ridiculous, but which story is more newsworthy?
Comment by M. Woodward — 11.14.05 @ 9:54 am
The Hitler t-shirts were over the top, and so is the “exterminating white people” remark, but in general, the media underreports instances of black numbskullery and overreports instances of white numbskullery. I don’t make the rules, M. Woodward. I’m just telling you how things look from my vantage point.
Comment by La Shawn — 11.14.05 @ 9:58 am
I come from an extended family that looks like a walking melting pot (native, Mexican, black, and the full range of nationalities lumped into white), so I’m often sensitive to observing what I consider subtle racism. Oddly, I’ve observed far more racism from those of races who themselves face racism than from most the whites I’ve met; I “look” white at least, and I could never have the bias against others that plenty have had against me on sight. I don’t think it’s uncommon to see racism demonstrated by non-Caucasians, and it anything I consider it common. To me it is like abusing a child; they grow up and do it to others.
One frustration I have for my ‘larger-culture’ of America is that the liberal-victim-mentality seems to assist people in growing up viewing everything through the cultural lens of “white people despise me.” That could screw up any child, who might grow up to be somebody happy to advocate genocide against whites in public speeches. Because genocide is what he clearly advocated. Imagine if a white republican person had said that, ye gods.
For me, it’s hard to overly identify with any given group given I’m 15 nationalities; I find it confusing, the emphasis placed on such things, and as I often joke, “So which % of me don’t you like?” etc. It seems to me that in melting pot America this issue of lumping people together by race gets more and more nonsensical.
One ‘litmus test’ I use when considering racial comments is to change the context of the comment from say, race to religion, and see how it reads. If the comment no longer seems particularly offensive (there is nothing offensive about someone wanting to keep the French language pure, or the values of their church pure), then I don’t consider it racist. If the comment is just as offensive if not more so (”Catholics should be exterminated!”) then it usually was a pointedly racist remark.
Dr. King said that he dreamed of people being equals, of children playing together without regard for race. This has to work both ways. It does no good to raise white children to be uncaring about race, if blacks raise their children to consider white people the enemy. The harm this does to the children is profound. The harm it does to the larger culture of America is a crying shame.
I’ve been lurking on your blog for some time, La Shawn. Nice job here.
Palyne aka McTANK
Comment by McTANK — 11.14.05 @ 10:18 am
Prussian blue is supported by the likes of David Duke, former grand wizard of the Klu Klux Klan and creator of the National Association for the Advancement of White People. These young ladies are being paraded around the United States to spread the message. Why is this not newsworthy? Most reasonable and independent thinking people would agree that this type of propaganda being promoted by someone like David Duke is newsworthy.
Who is supporting this so-called Dr.? I suspect no one. Calling for the extermination of the white race is utterly ridiculous and I suspect most serious journalist reached the same conclusion. Why should anyone report on that kind of foolishness?
The reason racist activities by whites are reported more is because of our nation’s not-so distant past. Moreover, it’s a numbers game. There are simply more white people than black people living in the United States. By extension, there are probably more white people expressing views of hate than black people expressing views of hate. So there will never be an equal amount of reporting.
Comment by Antonio — 11.14.05 @ 10:29 am
Prussian Blue: Much ado, much nothing…
A friend of mine in California mentioned this music group named Prussian Blue. His words to me: Knowing you O Mystic One, you’ll probably get a good laugh out of this. But they have folks around here all up in…
Trackback by Palm Trees In The Ghetto — 11.14.05 @ 10:40 am
Hey, hate sells. God bless ‘em. All of this is, at this point, irrelevant.
The “Dr.” Kamal story bothers me greatly, if only because he was addressing Howard University’s Law School. But, if his lunacy falls away forgotten, we’re all the better for it.
Prussian Blue will also fall away forgotten. In the end, the bitter will remain down-trodden, and the ambitious and productive will prosper.
(I think that idea’s in the Bible, too–though I’m no scholar.)
Comment by Stephen H. Johnson — 11.14.05 @ 11:05 am
LaShawn,
I’m saying that that is what the media presents and projects about black people in general, they’re lives are not worth as much, their ideas are really not as newsworthy no matter what they are. Racist views by black people, “so what?” that is the media’s view. Not mine.
Comment no. 12 is right on the money.
Comment by lukeNC — 11.14.05 @ 11:09 am
Regarding Kamau Kambon’s comments. Howard University did quickly distance themselves from those comments. Foxnews gave coverage, but I don’t think any other MSM outlet said much.
I have full coverage of it all at my blog.
See my post http://www.independentconservative.com/2005/10/22/psychotic_blacks/
I have 3 other related posts on my blog linked from that one. Together they all offer my full coverage.
I’ve been all over that nut and is associates since day 1.
Given the girls in Prussian Blue idolize Hitler, I view them in the exact same light as Kambon. They got so much MSM coverage it was not worth spending time on them. Personally I did not want to offer them any more free publicity.
Comment by IndependentConservative — 11.14.05 @ 11:13 am
I agree completely with your thoughts on the term “moderate”. I don’t like wishy-washy either. Enjoy reading your thoughts.
Comment by Karen — 11.14.05 @ 11:27 am
A lot of powerful words have been over applied in my lifetime to the point that they have lost much of their meaning. Among them I would count “rape”, “racism”, “Nazi”, “bigot” and “hate”.
Prussian Blue is new and meaningless to me. They are “very young girls” and they are “white” and they are stuck on the stupid bizarre. Why do Goth, Rap, Hip-Hop, skinhead, pierced everywhere you can be punctured, tattooed top to bottom and counter-culture come to my mind?
In reading the replies above, I have come across the usual fire-brand frothing of the mouth. Why would you associate “hate” which their pathetic moment toward fame? David Duke, the Neo-Nazis, the nasty underbelly of “white racism” are not going to have a Joan of Arc moment and follow these ditsy entertainers on a crusade of hate and oppression.
We created this “hate” obsession when we tried to establish a higher tier of felony by introducing the concept of “hate crime.” When two guys wrap a gay up in barbed wire and kill him or white guys drag a black guy by a chain behind their pick up, what makes the crime worse than murder? If a murderer gets the death sentence in a “hate crime” are we going to electrocute him slowly in a hate-filled and vengeful way?
If there is a vast underbelly of white racism out there, Prussian Blue will sell their trash like crazy and red necks everywhere will wear the T-shirts and sport their logos on their cars. I seriously doubt that will happen, but if it does we will all have better information about who we are dealing with.
Being a “bigot” in the modern sense, I walk a wide path around the Che and Malcom X T-shirt crowd. I don’t believe the wearers are full of hate. But I do suspect they are angry. They are most likely angry at their own short comings. You don’t see a lot of clerks, tellers, doctors, engineers, nurses, ministers, etc. acting out their anger in a highly public way.
I am not trying to cut Prussian Blue any slack, but is it at all surprising that a couple of white juveniles might start calling names and throwing epithets back across the school yard?
Bravo, LaShawn, you have opened yet another window through which we view our society.
Comment by Heliotrope — 11.14.05 @ 11:47 am
DUMB MSM EUPHEMISM OF THE DAY
I missed this one a few days ago, but it’s just too good (or rather, bad) to pass up: CNN anchor Carol Lin referring to the two French teenagers of Tunisian descent whose death sparked the Paris riots as “African-American.”…
Trackback by Michelle Malkin — 11.14.05 @ 11:57 am
I think both are off base. As for the 2 “GIRLS”…Sorry pure white jus’ ain’t gonna happen, and as far as Destroying the entire white race, how about just getting rid of that false “Superiority Complex” that most white are given at birth.
Comment by T. Jack — 11.14.05 @ 12:15 pm
Heliotrope
Prussian Blue will not only sell their trash to rednecks. They will also sell their trash to those who live in suburbia. Many of whom harbor resentment for affirmative action, forced busing, and integration. Why did so many of those communities created in the first place? I think we all know the answer.
Race has always and continues to be a problem that besets the United States. Until their is a frank and honest discussion about race the problem will never be solved. There must be a real acknowledgment by whites and people of all hues that any group of people who have been oppressed for 400 years will not overcome the effects of that oppression in a mere 40 years. Likewise, black people people need to understand that all white people are not out to destroy the black race. Many of the ills that affect the black community are some self-inflicted. But simply dismissing one part of the race discussion to focus exclusively on the portion that fits our own paradigm is dangerous and unproductive.
The most serious problem with Prussian Blue is that they are influencing a younger generation in a negative way. The same way that some rap music has negatively influenced black youth. The condemnation that is heaped on the latter should be spread liberally on the former.
Comment by Antonio — 11.14.05 @ 12:15 pm
La Shawn,
What is all the fuss about? The “white race” is pure and blacks and whites have made it that way. As an illustration let me ask you if the following celebrities are black or white.
Halle Berry?
Barack Obama?
Mariah Carey?
My guess is most people would say that they are black rather than children of a “mixed race” marriage. If the the “white race” isn’t pure please name one person that has mixed parents that is considered white. And saying Ward Connerly will not be acceptable. Oh the absurdity of race.
Comment by Scott — 11.14.05 @ 12:17 pm
LOL. Lashawn you have no idea what you are speaking about.
These girls aren’t just about “White pride”, they dance around a swa sticka… call blacks, like you and I, “MUD” and pledge their love for Hitler.
That’s not “white pride”…that’s “I hate everything not white”.
And they of course would like to keep thier race “pure”… so what does that mean? You and I are dirty?
Please, before you try to say that these kids are just proud to be white, read their lyrics and see their interviews first.
There’s nothing “innocent” about calling non-whites “Mud”, and admiring Hitler for his efforts… that’s not “pride”, that’s hate!
On the issue of the black man calling for the extermination of whites… pitiful. The lack of coverage? That’s the media, that’s the business.
The media in general, wants to see blacks and other minorities commit crimes. As for whites? Just as racist oppressers.
salaam
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Comment by Athird — 11.14.05 @ 12:18 pm
La Shawn,
Being a “moderate” is just another word for a leader without conviction. No lukewarm for us either. We expect more from the GOP.
Comment by California Conservative — 11.14.05 @ 12:19 pm
The interesting thing is there is no “pure white race”. Every white person is a mixture of dozens of other genes from Europe and the Caucus regions of northern Cental Asia, not to mention some Middle Eastern tribes. To say they are superior is foolish, look at all the wars they have caused, the millions of lives not fully lived.
All races have provided “superior individuals” who made the world a better place where they lived and, eventually, better elsewhere, with their dicoveries, enlightenment, and inventions.
I, too, dislike the term “African-American, because it sends the wrong message. I also dislike the term “black” American, we are all Americans FIRST and formost. To classify certain people with this kind of label, why doesn’t the MSM say, “European-American” when referring to others? And does that mean there are African-Egyptians, African-Morrocons? Where does it end? It’s stupid.
Comment by JimboNC — 11.14.05 @ 12:32 pm
Maybe I’ll send a story to the MSM about how Tibetian Monks hate white chocolate. And then send a story about how Vatican Priests hate regular chocolate. HMMM! Imagine all the side stories about the Vatican you can whip up. Tibertian Monk? Eh…
Comment by T-Steel — 11.14.05 @ 12:40 pm
Snortworthy?
What a valuable addition to my vocabulary!
Comment by Ted Wegener — 11.14.05 @ 12:42 pm
They give leftists too many passes when it comes to racism, I agree. If it weren’t for the internet, we wouldn’t even know about it. Freedom of information, baby.
Comment by RepJ — 11.14.05 @ 12:49 pm
Hey Antonio (#21), watch the “hate speech”. I’m an American “of color” married to redneck, and he’s certainly no Nazi!
Comment by ElCee — 11.14.05 @ 12:59 pm
Antonio wrote:
“Until their is a frank and honest discussion about race the problem will never be solved.”
Deliver me, please, from another call for a “frank and honest discussion about race.” Good lord, how many times have I heard that empty platitude?
“Frank and honest discussion”? Between whom? To what end?
The basic root truth is that people feel more kinship with people like them than they do with others, and race is a significant part of what we are. We can have “frank discussions” til the cows come home and it will never, ever change that fact. People have close bonds with their families, their close genetic relations. And they have closer bonds with their racial and ethnic group than with others. This is natural, this is normal, this is a fact of human nature that is not going away.
If blacks had never been brought here as slaves, this constant racial friction would not be an issue. A peaceful parting of ways is superior to the alternative, which is a violent parting of the ways, which is what societies around the world that contain more than one ethinic group eventually come to.
Interbreeding until there are no racial distinctions left would be one way the problem would disappear. But that isn’t going to happen for a very, very long time if ever. (And I’m not sure that the world would be better if everyone was just the same.) Meanwhile, the real, honest solution to these racial problems is a peaceful separation into nations for each people. Trying to fit more than one distinct people into a single nation-state is a recipe for ongoing conflict. Just wait until our next serious economic collapse (which we’re overdue for) and you’ll see the really ugly side of trying to mix more than one people/culture in a single country.
Comment by MarkJ — 11.14.05 @ 1:26 pm
La Shawn,
The girls of “Prussian Blue” are what they are, and Dr. Kambon is what he is, but I thought the whole point of your post was the way the mainstream media picks and chooses its stories. It is, in effect, a form of quasi-censorship where the MSM mostly covers stories that fit with their agenda, and ignore those that do not.
A good example of this has been the coverage of the Iraq War. The MSM has hammered the public for months on end with every bit of bad news they could scrape up, while virtually ignoring any news with a positive note. A good example of the result of this type of propagandizing can be seen in the following two things.
First, the actor, Bruce Willis, recently went to Iraq to visit with the troops. He was stunned by what we have accomplished in the country in the short time we have been there, and in spite of having to deal with the constant harassment of what the MSM calls “insurgents”. He had no idea because he had gotten all his knowledge from the MSM.
Second, the turnaround of opinion that is occurring among the citizenry regarding the war. This is the direct result of the MSM’s selective coverage regarding everything to do with the war, including the mechanizations of the anti-war crowd here in this country. This is “propaganda to shape the opinion of the masses” at its best.
The example you gave offers up a very good point. Racism by white persons is covered, but not racism expressed by “other than white” persons. This has everything to do with following an agenda and very little to do with what is actually newsworthy.
Comment by Montie — 11.14.05 @ 1:44 pm
MarkJ:
I see so giving every racial group a country will fix everything…
I call America for black people!!!
Whew, that was close, if I hadn’t called it, we may have gotten Iceland.
One question…What happens when the evangelical Christians in “White Country” attempt to impose a theocracy on the atheists, libertarians, and anarchists? I submit, the same strife within a racial heterogeneous group involving religion.
You see as long as there are “nation-states” that derive their power from divisive issues that they promise to “save” you from, there will be strife. In other words, my friend, these problems derive from overly powerful “nation-states”. That was supposed to be the wisdom in creating this Constitutional Republic, rights of the individual over the power of the state. But, those principles have been largely tossed with evermore divisive issues du jour, take your pick there is always an issue that usually emanates out of Washington that serves keep people from thinking of themselves as just Americans. So you remove race from the picture, how do you remove class, education/opportunity and religious issues from the system without upsetting your delicate racial “balance”?
Comment by M. Woodward — 11.14.05 @ 1:48 pm
Has anyone even heard these girls sing? The lyrics may be controversial but the actual music is worse than bad. Not to diminish the race-hating-baiting aspect, but the music just stinks!
Comment by PaulaJ — 11.14.05 @ 1:53 pm
Mark # 30, one person in my family is looked down upon by others because he is darker skinned than the rest of us. And there are other family members who look down on the lighter skinned ones becasue they are not “black” enough.
I don’t think man (read humanity) is ever going to get along regardless of color of skin or lack there-of. Man (read humanity) is in a fallen state and nothing any human will ever do will fix that. Only Jesus’ death on the cross makes one truly the “right” color. And that is the color of grace through the blood of Christ.
Until his return, we will never get along.
But some people think I am a bit over the top.
Comment by jeff east — 11.14.05 @ 2:00 pm
LaShawn..I saw you on a C-span panel at the Heritage Foundation. It was clear to me that those on the panel recogized that racism has become a taboo topic to the point that white people are afraid to even try to find solutions to problems. There are lots of reasons for this. You may be threatened with job loss for an improper remark even if you don’t know it’s improper. Your business may be sued if you don’t serve a minority quick enough or if you follow a minority to a dressing room..even though you routinely follow white people to a dressing room. We’ve been “trained” to keep our mouths shut at hundreds of thousands of Diversity meetings. Instead of solving the problems by openly discussing the issues, people avoid the risks because of the consequences It’s a sad state of affairs. I see the same thing happening with Christianity. If you’re evangelical, you’re considered a crazy. Our schools are being cleansed of anything Christian. We will reap what we sow and sooner or later the crop is going to dry up.
Comment by dianne — 11.14.05 @ 2:25 pm
the only way to end political correctness would be for us all to develop thicker skin. Ridiculing the race baiter’s like Jesse Jackson and Sharpton whose only goal in life is to continue to stir the racial melting pot to further their political and financial ambitions would help alot as well. They are helping nobody but themselves IMHO.
Comment by John M — 11.14.05 @ 2:33 pm
Elcee
My statement was in response to a statement by Heliotrope, not an expression of hate.
Mark J
“Deliver me, please, from another call for a “frank and honest discussion about race.†Good lord, how many times have I heard that empty platitude?”
Why is it empty? Could it be that we have yet to have the type of honest discussion that will allow whites and blacks to let go of the past and move forward? I dare say yes. There has been no honest discussion about race in this nation. White people are generally afraid of speaking about their feelings and attitudes about blacks, or better yet, the state of the black community. They fear being called racist, because the ones who do speak out are generally called racist. Black people are generally reluctant to talk honestly about social ills that affect the black community. Just look at the backlash received by Bill Cosby. He was called an “uncle Tom” as well as other names for making a valid point, although somewhat generalized.
The problem with many conversations about race is that they devolve into a battle over stereotypes. Many people only regurgitate what they have heard from others about race. For example, some people will take a flawed study about welfare and refer to it as gospel while dismissing any study that produces different results. This sort is irrational dialogue fails to address the problems or offer real solutions.
A real discussion will include people expressing independent thoughts. Not something they heard on FOX or CNN.
Comment by Antonio — 11.14.05 @ 2:43 pm
“As for the 2 “GIRLSâ€â€¦Sorry pure white jus’ ain’t gonna happen, and as far as Destroying the entire white race, how about just getting rid of that false “Superiority Complex†that most white are given at birth.”
Comment by T. Jack
You mean the false superiority complex that we get because almost every accomplishment of the human race has been achieved by Caucasians, or under the aegis of Caucasian culture? Or maybe the one we get because almost all aspects of modern life depend on inventions, innovations, and methods of production and distribution devised by Caucasians? Or maybe it’s because so many losers are stuck on hating us because our accomplishments have basically overshadowed those of every other group in the last couple thousand years?
David Duke would not exist were it not for people like Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and you. I’m happy to take people as they are; individuals who merit neither preference nor derision until they have earned either, and I will not discount the accomplishments of any person or culture simply because of their ethnicity, nationality, or language. Our “false” sense of superiority is well earned I think, since you couldn’t even post your comment without a chain of technology conceived and produced entirely by white people. You need to get over it and stop deluding yourself, and if you hate white people so much, go to Africa, where things are so much better.
Comment by Improbulus Maximus — 11.14.05 @ 3:22 pm
Maximus:
I am not even going to touch what you said, you just threw a grenade into the forum and ran off.
I will say this though, you just illustrated T. Jack’s point better than he could have even imagined.
Comment by M. Woodward — 11.14.05 @ 3:38 pm
JimboNC said:
“The interesting thing is there is no “pure white raceâ€. Every white person is a mixture of dozens of other genes from Europe and the Caucus regions of northern Cental Asia, not to mention some Middle Eastern tribes.”
There is only the human race, which is divided into many, many ethnotypes, mainly because of geographic isolation. The fact is that there is more genetic diversity among any two Africans than between say, an Irishman and an Australian aborigine, because the group of humans that left Africa so long ago was so small that the gene pool that accounts for most of the world’s population can be traced to a few dozen individuals.
“To say they are superior is foolish, look at all the wars they have caused, the millions of lives not fully lived.”
And Africa has always been a garden of Eden. Except of course for the constant tribal warfare, cannibalism, etc. You should try to learn to make a sensible statement without resorting to blaming Evil Whitey for everything. The fact is, like I mentioned in a previous comment, were it not for we evil white folks, you wouldn’t be here right now, but rather in Africa, looking forward to nothing but an early death.
“All races have provided “superior individuals†who made the world a better place where they lived and, eventually, better elsewhere, with their dicoveries, enlightenment, and inventions.”
Name one major discovery, invention, innovation, artwork, or technology in the last two thousand years that did not occur in Europe or Asia.
“I, too, dislike the term “African-American, because it sends the wrong message. I also dislike the term “black†American, we are all Americans FIRST and formost. To classify certain people with this kind of label, why doesn’t the MSM say, “European-American†when referring to others? And does that mean there are African-Egyptians, African-Morrocons? Where does it end? It’s stupid.”
I will agree with you there, but it sounds like you need to admit to yourself that without Evil Whitey and his evil inventions, such as the internet, life would be short and brutal for those of us who depend on Evil White Technology to get by.
Comment by Improbulus Maximus — 11.14.05 @ 3:44 pm
La Shawn,
Gosh, even after your last update, NOBODY ELSE is acknowledging what your post was originally about. Everybody is stuck on the race thing. Sometimes these comments strings can go off on quite a tangent
Comment by Montie — 11.14.05 @ 3:53 pm
So true, Montie. Welcome back!
Comment by La Shawn — 11.14.05 @ 3:55 pm
Well Montie,
To redirect the discussion, I will begin with your comments. It is often very convenient for people to claim that the MSM media has an agenda to explain why stories of white racism outnumber stories about black prejudice. But this assertion leads to several questions.
The initial question is who is the MSM? Just the New York Time, Washington Post, Los Angeles Times, CBS, NBC, and CNN. If that is who you are talking about, then you must include FOX news (which claims to have a larger viewership than CNN), and the Wall Street Journal.
The next question would be what is their agenda? I believe the ultimate goal of any business, including any news organization, is to make a profit. Nothing is wrong with that. Each news outlet selects stories that they find compelling and believe will be of some interest to their readers, viewers, or listeners. FOX News, despite claiming to be far and balanced, produces stories that cater to conservatives and republicans. Nothing is wrong with that. Likewise, there is nothing wrong with CNN producing the stories for its audience. The reporting is not necessarily about having an agenda, its about running a business.
The last question is why do people complain so much about the so-called MSM? It sounds as if we are blaming the MSM for the country’s current attitude about the war. We decry their coverage of the insurgency and casualties. No one, however, has said their reports are inaccurate. I think it is easy to chastise the so-called MSM when the stories are not what we want them to be, but we must keep in mind that they would not be doing what they are doing if they were not making money. And they make money because people watch, read, and listen.
Remember, it was the same MSM that covered ad nauseam the Clinton-Lewinsky scandal.
Comment by Antonio — 11.14.05 @ 6:03 pm
Maximus may have wandered off point, but he did so in response to other commenters who also wandered off point and, in the process, made blanket racist statements unsupported by either facts or the application of a logical thought process. Contrary to one commenter’s allegation, Maximus did not throw a grenade and run off. He threw several grenades, followed up with several clips of automatic weapons fire, returned and launched a TOW missle which obliterated a concret bunker’s worth of hokum, and finished up with a flamethrower. The only intellectual response to Maximus was one feeble wisecrack and the sound of crickets chirping.
Comment by Kevin — 11.14.05 @ 7:06 pm
Looking at Prussian Blue, I saw nothing that called for the exterminance of any other race as some posters here keep saying they do. Some may find then distatseful, but what is wrong with pride in ones race?
Kamou Kambon did call for the “exterminance of white people”.
Why is there no outrage about that….or this?
“Kill the white people; we gonna make them hurt; kill the white people; but buy my record first; ha, ha, ha”;
“Kill d’White People”; Apache, Apache Ain’t Shit, 1993, Tommy Boy Music, Time Warner, USA.
Comment by Just Asking — 11.14.05 @ 8:14 pm
Antonio said, “No one, however, has said their reports are inaccurate.”
Oh, all right, I’ll say it. Their reports are frequently slanted, sans relevant and essential information, agenda-driven, and flat out misleading.
Recent terminations, whining, and belt-tightening at some of the majors, print and broadcast (Rupert Murdoch stated a few days ago that his quarterly report was “not as bad” as the competitors), may suggest that “inaccurate” is also not the best bottom-line strategy.
Merry
Comment by Merry Whitney — 11.14.05 @ 9:11 pm
What a lively discussion! LaShawn, forgive me if I butt in here for a second, but I swung over from Malkin’s blog and must say a few things.
Arbitrariness. Many here need to understand what the term means. Whiteness, blackness, it is all arbitrary. Racial links exist less in biology than they do in the superficial way we view the world. After all, what we are talking about is pigmentation. Did a lack of melanin create the internet, and did a profuse amount of it create tribalism?
We mistake correlation with causation when we discuss racial differences. A black kid that grows up in the ghetto will behave as if he grew up in a ghetto. A black kid that grows up in Grosse Pointe Blank will behave as if he grew up in Grosse Pointe Blank. A white kid that grows up a redneck behaves as if he grew up a redneck. A white kid that grows up rich and spoiled behaves as if he grew up rich and spoiled.
In case you haven’t caught on, the differences we speak of when we speak of race are less biological than cultural. Culture, instead of being genetically derived, is a nothing more than a state of mind, freely chosen or discarded at will (though few ever manage to freely choose–mostly because of these faux distinctions like race). When one uses culture–not race–as one’s discriminatory prism, everything gets much simpler.
The white people who rampaged across a medieval Germany and waged total, endless war on each other did not, in fact, create the internet. The white people that bought into the enlightenment, and scientific inquiry, and an empirical understanding of the world did. The white people who searched the worlds for enemies to slay, while disregarding their duties at home, did not create the automobile. The white people who developed consensual government and believed in the unalienable rights of man did.
We owe our prosperity not to white people, but to a mental paradigm that just so happened to be developed first by white people (arbitrary–there’s that word again). Blacks were not oppressed by white people, they were first enslaved and then oppressed by a mental paradigm that just so happened to reside in all people (you can look it up). The acceptance of slavery as nothing special is what caused slavery. Not white people.
The answer, then, lies in our power to discern positive mentalities against a backdrop and history of discredited and hurtful mentalities. It makes little sense to build one’s mental sphere in response to somebody else’s faulty one; a derivative of the flu will never be healthy. Just because some white people still have a mental disease should not cause others to embrace their own. Just because some blacks identify themselves based on their skin color, and not the content of their character, does not justify the triumphalism expressed by a superior-feeling white. Both are just plain wrong.
So be careful what you embrace for self-identification. Hate will destroy you, and a collective hate will destroy all. Free yourselves from these untruths, and join the world of the liberated. Inside we are all the same, however the sun reflects off our skin.
Comment by Aristides — 11.14.05 @ 9:11 pm
After all the loose cannons have blown holes in the bulwarks, I would like to deal with LaShawn’s original point: “The media are extremely…..selective about what they consider newsworthy. If a white person so much as hints at “racial pride,†elitist leftists shout “Racist!†from the rooftops. But when an extremist…black man explicitly states that whites should be exterminated, not a peep.”
This is clearly fact. The “minority” gets to set the rules of engagement and define what, where, why, how and when the minority is offended.
The MSM can respond with a “tough luck” statement or go into paroxysms of political correctness or just support the minority view as just and valid. They tend toward the last.
Since we are living in a main stream consciousness that minorities are incapable of racism or hate crimes, it stands to reason that the MSM would ignore any evidence to the contrary.
Comment by Heliotrope — 11.14.05 @ 11:03 pm
Breakfast: 11/15/2005
Try one of these specials with your breakfast:
Stop the ACLU! interviews Glenn Reynolds
aTypical Joe looks at Andrew Sullivan’s new venture
La Shawn Barber asks why only whites are racist
Phin is in danger
Dane Bramage does Headlines R…
Trackback by basil's blog — 11.15.05 @ 6:40 am
Antonio,
You are correct when you say that what we have come to know as the “mainstream media” are in it for the profit. Hence the tendency toward the “if it bleeds, it leads” doctrine. However, since the majority of the personalities involved in both print and broadcast journalism have a liberal political slant in their personal philosophy and politics, there is a certain selectivity which takes place. They will tend to show stories which reinforce their own views and disparage the opposing viewpoint more often than not.
While it is true that the MSM covered the Clinton-Lewinsky story ad nauseum, the stories were often presented in a manner which supported Clinton and put his political foes in a bad light. With Bush we have seen just the opposite. The majority of stories are presented in a way which denigrates Bush but supports his Democrat detractors.
If you are of a liberal bent you may not be able to detect the often subtle ways in which what is covered, and how it is presented, can be used to support an agenda. Of course, many in the MSM would deny that this is so, and declare that they have no agenda. They may even be telling the truth insofar as they see it. It may be more of a subconscious thing than an outright overt campaign, but if you know what to look for, and try to take in what the MSM puts out with a neutral viewpoint ( you don’t even have to look at it as a conservative might), it will become obvious to you.
Comment by Montie — 11.15.05 @ 10:35 am
Antonio - I was just messing with you.
One example of the MSM agenda - why the daily “body count” for Iraq? Quick, does anyone have any idea (without looking it up) how many soldiers have died in Afghanistan? How many fatalities occur in the military when we’re not at war?
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Comment by Paul Lamont DeBye — 11.15.05 @ 12:48 pm
I hate to break it to you, but all the smoking hot women are conservatives. I don’t see how La Shawn’s beauty should in any way disqualify her from rational discourse, which is to say, these days, conservative discourse.
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Comment by Steve — 11.16.05 @ 3:06 pm