Comments on: A “Tookie Teach-In”

By: California Conservative

California Conservative — Sat, 03 Dec 2005 22:38:09 +0000

Should Tookie Die? Cast Your Vote

After sitting on death row for 25 years, should convicted multiple murderer Stanley “Tookie” Williams be executed as sentenced by law?

Yes

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By: Opinionated Voice

Opinionated Voice — Sat, 03 Dec 2005 19:33:52 +0000

While incarcerated, Tookie has done much to atone for his gang related behaviour, deeply regreting his gang involvement but has always maintained his innocence of these crimes. We know the US justice system is flawed, we know many innocents are on death row, we know the death penalty is racist and targets the poor, and we also know that race is a key factor in this case. He may have reformed, he may have received Nobel Peace Prize nominations, he may have contributed to ending gang violence. Nevertheless, this man is responsible for one of the largest and most vicious, brutal gangs in the US, the Crips, and death is the price he will pay. In agreement with the likes of Tin Star, Politik Ditto, Debbie Schlussel, FullosseousFlap, Michelle Malkin, Joanne Jacobs, La Shawn, Right Wing News and GOP Vixen, my opinion is that as have many others before and after him, Stanley Tookie William’s has been found guilty of crimes that carry the death penalty. It is not media support, reformation, hindsight and Peace Prize nominations that should determine his fate, but whether he is innocent or guilty of murder!

By: Classical Values

Classical Values — Sat, 03 Dec 2005 15:17:32 +0000

Being against violence is way cooler than violence! (Except where violence is way cooler!)

As the last post reminded me, a number of people on the left (presumably including the Green Party) believe that there is no difference between Israelis defending themselves and the deliberate targeting of innocent civilians by Palestinian terrorists. …

By: Nick Byram

Nick Byram — Sat, 03 Dec 2005 01:01:04 +0000

Dapney, you are a dupe. If you really think that Tookie and Mumia don’t deserve to die because some of your neighbors were unpleasant toward black folks 40 years ago, then frankly you deserve to be raped and beaten by a gang of crips. And no, that WON’T be considered a “hate crime”, because of dupes like you. Just as Tookie’s murder of Asian motel operators wasn’t considered a hate crime, because of dupes like you.

Throwing Tookie into Gen Pop won’t kill him, because the crips ARE largely Gen Pop. Tookie in Gen Pop will run his gang nicely from the prison until he dies a very old man.

By: Jack Tanner

Jack Tanner — Fri, 02 Dec 2005 15:34:11 +0000

‘I like Joe Bruciaâ€™s idea of throwing them into the general prison population (especially Joseph Smith and Jennifer Lunsfordâ€™s killer) and making them ride the jail house roller coaster – always having to fight for survival and have to glance over their shoulders on a daily basis.’

‘the way he will die is hardly justice in my bookâ€¦ ‘

Your knowledge of both the culture and practices at correctional facilities seems to be as warped as your social views. Tookie is a f’ing hero in jail and beating the reaper would only make him more so. Having him exposed to potential retribution would put the CPS in the same boat as Massachusetts is over the Geoghan murder by Joseph Druce.

By: shari

shari — Fri, 02 Dec 2005 09:31:19 +0000

he says he is innocent . how can he be reformed if he is innocent.

By: Dean

Dean — Fri, 02 Dec 2005 03:02:28 +0000

Alright here’s my take.
If Tookie is rehabilitated, writes children’s books and a good follower of Islam, isn’t one of the first steps of asking forgiveness confessing one’s sins?
Another thing, if he is reformed, shouldn’t he accept the consequences of his actions?
So in the end, if he has accepted God as part of the Muslim religion, shouldn’t he be looking forward to the next part of his journey?
One more note: why is it that he dies with more compassion, than the lack of compassion he showed his victims?

By: SR. Wumpus

SR. Wumpus — Thu, 01 Dec 2005 22:41:32 +0000

Why Tookie? Why not some woman or guy who was abused and killed their abuser? Tookie is the wrong case to have a hearing about the DP.

By: aaron

aaron — Thu, 01 Dec 2005 21:39:47 +0000

Finally: A Tookie Store for Conservatives

Just in time for the holidays:
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By: cpt

cpt — Thu, 01 Dec 2005 21:00:45 +0000

We need to apply the “Yossarian” method to Tookie. Tookie should be spared execution if he proves he’s been rehabilitated. How do we know if he’s rehabilitated? Because then he will acknowledge his crimes, and ask to be executed. I haven’t heard him say this, so he’s not rehabilitated, and should be executed.

Let’s review this, if he asks to be executed, then he’s rehabilitated, and should be eligible for consideration to have his life spared. If he asks not to be executed, then he’s not rehabilitated, and should be executed.

By: Dapney

Dapney — Thu, 01 Dec 2005 20:46:51 +0000

First off I am female. I am a menopausal mother, my daughter is 27 and my grand just turned 3 – a little girl. My thoughts on Tookie are that he is a murderer, period. But my thoughts on Capital Punishment are more along the lines of Joe Brucia’s, Carlie Brucia’s Dad.

Death is too sweet and too quick, big deal he will basically be put to sleep. I also believe God is an all loving and forgiving God and that we are in hell now – this is hell. So what do you all really think will happen when he passes over? Do you really think Satan/Lucifer/The Beast will be waiting to handcuff him and lead him away? I believe he will come before God and God will forgive him.

I like Joe Brucia’s idea of throwing them into the general prison population (especially Joseph Smith and Jennifer Lunsford’s killer) and making them ride the jail house roller coaster – always having to fight for survival and have to glance over their shoulders on a daily basis. On Death Row they are sequestered – big whoop! Tookie has been sitting in a cell playing chess, he hasn’t been in the general population in years.

There is a difference between justice and vengeance, the way he will die is hardly justice in my book…

By: V the K

V the K — Thu, 01 Dec 2005 19:42:24 +0000

So, let’s see if I follow Dapney’s thought process here.

1. Dapney is an upper-middle class, middle-aged white guy who was aware of racism 40 years ago.

2. ??????????

3. Tookie and Mumia should not be executed for the cold-blooded murders they committed.

By: steve

steve — Thu, 01 Dec 2005 19:32:18 +0000

ALL “Save the Tookie” people are pro abortion. If you don’t believe me, just asked one. This is one of the underlying truisms of the “liberalism is a mental disease” argument, i.e., being against capital punishment because,”life is precious”, but believing that terminating a child in utero is a “choice”.

By: Jack Tanner

Jack Tanner — Thu, 01 Dec 2005 18:26:48 +0000

Thanks Dapney – there’s nothing like listening to some bleeding heart liberal guilt trip defender of a mass murdering sociopath.

By: Bubo

Bubo — Thu, 01 Dec 2005 16:28:39 +0000

In all this mess, I have only read one article (in the LA Times) with the story of the victim’s family. Someone should start up the website http://www.frytookie.com before it is too late.