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		<title>By: ricland</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/12/02/tookie-and-the-celebrity-drag/comment-page-1/#comment-63342</link>
		<dc:creator>ricland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2005 12:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This beast should have been executed 25 years ago. Today, however, he should not. We can&#039;t have it both ways. This is not the same person who killed those people. Placed in the same circumstance he would not kill again.

So what&#039;s the point of executing him -- revenge?

Gov. Arnie is being asked to execute a different person. There should be a rule: once a person is on death row for 20 years, he doesn&#039;t get executed. 

Revenge beyond 20 years is irrational. If your father arrived at your house and begin beating you for someting he overlooked 20 years ago, you&#039;d have him committed, right?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This beast should have been executed 25 years ago. Today, however, he should not. We can&#8217;t have it both ways. This is not the same person who killed those people. Placed in the same circumstance he would not kill again.</p>
<p>So what&#8217;s the point of executing him &#8212; revenge?</p>
<p>Gov. Arnie is being asked to execute a different person. There should be a rule: once a person is on death row for 20 years, he doesn&#8217;t get executed. </p>
<p>Revenge beyond 20 years is irrational. If your father arrived at your house and begin beating you for someting he overlooked 20 years ago, you&#8217;d have him committed, right?</p>
<p>ricland</p>
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		<title>By: Christie Brouillette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christie Brouillette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2005 07:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Save Tookie Williams...Kill Terri Schiavo!!

Have you noticed that the same Liberals/Democrats that were going crazy over Jeb Bush intervening to save Terri Schiavoâ€™s life b/c government â€˜has no rightâ€™ to change a judgeâ€™s orders are now BEGGING and protesting for Governor Schwarzenegger to change the courts order to kill a vicious murderer that founded the Crips Gang???? 

They have so much tenacity and â€˜fightâ€™ in them to stop the death and save the life of a vicious killer YET when it came to an innocent woman they had so much fight to see that the law was carried out to starve her to death! They are insane, to say the least! No wonder they love Howard Dean and John Kerry so much. They are just alikeâ€¦.always contradicting themselvesâ€¦..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Save Tookie Williams&#8230;Kill Terri Schiavo!!</p>
<p>Have you noticed that the same Liberals/Democrats that were going crazy over Jeb Bush intervening to save Terri Schiavoâ€™s life b/c government â€˜has no rightâ€™ to change a judgeâ€™s orders are now BEGGING and protesting for Governor Schwarzenegger to change the courts order to kill a vicious murderer that founded the Crips Gang???? </p>
<p>They have so much tenacity and â€˜fightâ€™ in them to stop the death and save the life of a vicious killer YET when it came to an innocent woman they had so much fight to see that the law was carried out to starve her to death! They are insane, to say the least! No wonder they love Howard Dean and John Kerry so much. They are just alikeâ€¦.always contradicting themselvesâ€¦..</p>
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		<title>By: Mean Dean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mean Dean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2005 17:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love it how the likes of Cobra are quick to play the born again Christian card when it suits them.

The sister article this post over at blogs4God describes another, not so famous person who was recently hanged in Singapore, but not until after an in-prison conviction.

What&#039;s the point here? Regardless of one&#039;s saved state, we are personally responsible for our actions. Moreover, repentance is more than just feeling bad about something.

There are many things a person like Tookie could do along these lines already identified in the above/original post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love it how the likes of Cobra are quick to play the born again Christian card when it suits them.</p>
<p>The sister article this post over at blogs4God describes another, not so famous person who was recently hanged in Singapore, but not until after an in-prison conviction.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s the point here? Regardless of one&#8217;s saved state, we are personally responsible for our actions. Moreover, repentance is more than just feeling bad about something.</p>
<p>There are many things a person like Tookie could do along these lines already identified in the above/original post.</p>
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		<title>By: lukeNC</title>
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		<dc:creator>lukeNC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2005 11:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to the last comment.

Yes the judicial system is stacked against the poor and minorities.

Yep its unfair.

However, this Tookie guy killed those people. If he was rich, he might have gotten off, but he didnt. Doesnt change the fact that he did it. 

He has to pay the price for his crime no matter the fairness of the system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to the last comment.</p>
<p>Yes the judicial system is stacked against the poor and minorities.</p>
<p>Yep its unfair.</p>
<p>However, this Tookie guy killed those people. If he was rich, he might have gotten off, but he didnt. Doesnt change the fact that he did it. </p>
<p>He has to pay the price for his crime no matter the fairness of the system.</p>
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		<title>By: BIRDZILLA</title>
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		<dc:creator>BIRDZILLA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2005 02:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I,ll bet OLIVER STONE or MICHEAL MOORE wants to make a movie about TOOKIE WILLIAMS dont put it past them to do this their lowlife scoundrels on hollywood</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I,ll bet OLIVER STONE or MICHEAL MOORE wants to make a movie about TOOKIE WILLIAMS dont put it past them to do this their lowlife scoundrels on hollywood</p>
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		<title>By: Cobra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cobra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2005 01:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>El Riggo writes:

&gt;&gt;&gt;&quot;Understand that when society condemns one to die for killing another, they are judging the crime, not the sin, nor the sinner. Sin can be forgiven, crime cannot be undone.&quot;

 I agree my brother, accept our &quot;society&quot; is the United States of America, where the criminal justices system is undeniably stacked against those who are poor, and in the minority. I do not hold those in power and authority in the justice system in the same esteem as the Ultimate Power and Authority.

 I guess that&#039;s what makes me a LIBERAL, and against a man-made death penalty in the first place.

--Cobra</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>El Riggo writes:</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;&gt;&#8221;Understand that when society condemns one to die for killing another, they are judging the crime, not the sin, nor the sinner. Sin can be forgiven, crime cannot be undone.&#8221;</p>
<p> I agree my brother, accept our &#8220;society&#8221; is the United States of America, where the criminal justices system is undeniably stacked against those who are poor, and in the minority. I do not hold those in power and authority in the justice system in the same esteem as the Ultimate Power and Authority.</p>
<p> I guess that&#8217;s what makes me a LIBERAL, and against a man-made death penalty in the first place.</p>
<p>&#8211;Cobra</p>
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		<title>By: El Riggo</title>
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		<dc:creator>El Riggo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2005 00:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmmm... Jesus as the ultimate example for clemency. Cobra has that exactly right. Not only was he absolutely innocent, but the kangaroo courts set up to try his case only proved him innocent. It was only after His innocence was established that he purposefully committed the &quot;sin&quot; of blasphemy by declaring His divinity - equating Himself with G-d (here, not a sin, but a declaration of fact, ergo still innocent.) However, He still died, by his own choice. Not to pay the penalty for his crime, but for the penalty of my sin. 

So, yes, Jesus should have walked. Instead he chose to die.

With that said, (as Seal-lover beautifully pointed out) Jesus did not commute the penalty of the thief&#039;s crime, but did forgive his sins. If Tookie&#039;s sins are forgiven, then he will be tearfully begging to kiss the feet that were nailed to a cross so that he wouldn&#039;t be guilty for the killings at his own hands. You see, Tookie has had the opportunity to repent and ask for forgiveness. So have I, so have you.

Understand that when society condemns one to die for killing another, they are judging the crime, not the sin, nor the sinner. Sin can be forgiven, crime cannot be undone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmmm&#8230; Jesus as the ultimate example for clemency. Cobra has that exactly right. Not only was he absolutely innocent, but the kangaroo courts set up to try his case only proved him innocent. It was only after His innocence was established that he purposefully committed the &#8220;sin&#8221; of blasphemy by declaring His divinity &#8211; equating Himself with G-d (here, not a sin, but a declaration of fact, ergo still innocent.) However, He still died, by his own choice. Not to pay the penalty for his crime, but for the penalty of my sin. </p>
<p>So, yes, Jesus should have walked. Instead he chose to die.</p>
<p>With that said, (as Seal-lover beautifully pointed out) Jesus did not commute the penalty of the thief&#8217;s crime, but did forgive his sins. If Tookie&#8217;s sins are forgiven, then he will be tearfully begging to kiss the feet that were nailed to a cross so that he wouldn&#8217;t be guilty for the killings at his own hands. You see, Tookie has had the opportunity to repent and ask for forgiveness. So have I, so have you.</p>
<p>Understand that when society condemns one to die for killing another, they are judging the crime, not the sin, nor the sinner. Sin can be forgiven, crime cannot be undone.</p>
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		<title>By: Cobra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cobra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2005 13:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seal-lover writes:

&gt;&gt;&gt;&quot;We know-He said the thief would be with Him in Paradise, thus forgiving him, JUST BEFORE THE THIEF WAS CRUCIFIED!&quot;

Exactly. He was crucified right alongside of Jesus, who represented the greatest clemency argument on record.

Or....

Are you arguing against clemency in THAT case as well? The people did choose Barabas over Him when offered...jury of his peers?


--Cobra</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seal-lover writes:</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;&gt;&#8221;We know-He said the thief would be with Him in Paradise, thus forgiving him, JUST BEFORE THE THIEF WAS CRUCIFIED!&#8221;</p>
<p>Exactly. He was crucified right alongside of Jesus, who represented the greatest clemency argument on record.</p>
<p>Or&#8230;.</p>
<p>Are you arguing against clemency in THAT case as well? The people did choose Barabas over Him when offered&#8230;jury of his peers?</p>
<p>&#8211;Cobra</p>
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		<title>By: seal-lover</title>
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		<dc:creator>seal-lover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2005 05:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Is not Toukie Smith a â€œborn again Christian?â€ Do you doubt his faith? What did Jesus say to the convict hanging on the cross beside him, again?&quot;

We know-He said the thief would be with Him in Paradise, thus forgiving him, JUST BEFORE THE THIEF WAS CRUCIFIED!

&lt;em&gt;Thanks for pointing that out, seal-lover. The man was saved from eternal punishment, but not from the just punishment he created for himself on earth. 

If people took the whole Bible into account, and not just the verses they think make their point, it would be most edifying. - Admin&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Is not Toukie Smith a â€œborn again Christian?â€ Do you doubt his faith? What did Jesus say to the convict hanging on the cross beside him, again?&#8221;</p>
<p>We know-He said the thief would be with Him in Paradise, thus forgiving him, JUST BEFORE THE THIEF WAS CRUCIFIED!</p>
<p><em>Thanks for pointing that out, seal-lover. The man was saved from eternal punishment, but not from the just punishment he created for himself on earth. </p>
<p>If people took the whole Bible into account, and not just the verses they think make their point, it would be most edifying. &#8211; Admin</em></p>
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		<title>By: Ordinary Everyday Christian</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/12/02/tookie-and-the-celebrity-drag/comment-page-1/#comment-63246</link>
		<dc:creator>Ordinary Everyday Christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2005 22:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;What You Must Read About Stanley Tookie Williams&lt;/strong&gt;

LASHAWN BARBER - I found this blog when I clicked on a link from Michelle Malkin. La Shawn is an independent black conservative Christian who has made several appearances on MSNBC as well as teaching at the recent GodBlogCon. She is an excellent writ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>What You Must Read About Stanley Tookie Williams</strong></p>
<p>LASHAWN BARBER &#8211; I found this blog when I clicked on a link from Michelle Malkin. La Shawn is an independent black conservative Christian who has made several appearances on MSNBC as well as teaching at the recent GodBlogCon. She is an excellent writ&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: J</title>
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		<dc:creator>J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2005 05:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always find it funny that &quot;Christian&quot; &quot;Right to Life&quot; people are always the first in line pushing for the execution of the death penalty...

Life is full of IRONY

&lt;em&gt;Laugh if you want, anonymous commenter, but one day it won&#039;t be funny at all. The ultimate irony is yet to come. 

Your ignorance of what the Bible says about justly punishing murderers and what Christians believe is trite and juvenile, as if being ignornant isn&#039;t bad enough without those adjectives. You sound like a teenager with that tired &quot;Christian Right&quot; line, although you&#039;re probably an adult (a man, I suspect). Go read the Bible, read my archives, where this subject has been covered ad nauseum, and come back when you&#039;ve gained a little knowledge. You&#039;ve noticed your other comments didn&#039;t make it. Same old triteness. - Admin  &lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always find it funny that &#8220;Christian&#8221; &#8220;Right to Life&#8221; people are always the first in line pushing for the execution of the death penalty&#8230;</p>
<p>Life is full of IRONY</p>
<p><em>Laugh if you want, anonymous commenter, but one day it won&#8217;t be funny at all. The ultimate irony is yet to come. </p>
<p>Your ignorance of what the Bible says about justly punishing murderers and what Christians believe is trite and juvenile, as if being ignornant isn&#8217;t bad enough without those adjectives. You sound like a teenager with that tired &#8220;Christian Right&#8221; line, although you&#8217;re probably an adult (a man, I suspect). Go read the Bible, read my archives, where this subject has been covered ad nauseum, and come back when you&#8217;ve gained a little knowledge. You&#8217;ve noticed your other comments didn&#8217;t make it. Same old triteness. &#8211; Admin  </em></p>
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		<title>By: Horseback Riders</title>
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		<dc:creator>Horseback Riders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2005 04:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;December 13, 2005: Stanley &quot;Tookie&quot; Williams will die (part 6 of a series)&lt;/strong&gt;

I&#039;m not sure if Lora Owens really left this comment, but whoever left it did their research and provided indisputable facts. One thing the pro-Tookie crowd fails to realize is that even if Tookie gave up the life of gangbanging, it&#039;s not going to bri...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>December 13, 2005: Stanley &#8220;Tookie&#8221; Williams will die (part 6 of a series)</strong></p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure if Lora Owens really left this comment, but whoever left it did their research and provided indisputable facts. One thing the pro-Tookie crowd fails to realize is that even if Tookie gave up the life of gangbanging, it&#8217;s not going to bri&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Flopping Aces</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flopping Aces</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2005 01:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Burn Tookie Burn&lt;/strong&gt;

	But according to Mike Farrell, all these witnesses were bribed to say this against an innocent man.  How do people such as Mr. Farrell even look at themselves in the mirror?  Too bad we don&#8217;t have the electric chair anymore, Mike could hold Took...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Burn Tookie Burn</strong></p>
<p>	But according to Mike Farrell, all these witnesses were bribed to say this against an innocent man.  How do people such as Mr. Farrell even look at themselves in the mirror?  Too bad we don&#8217;t have the electric chair anymore, Mike could hold Took&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Cobra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cobra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2005 23:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SeanS writes:

&gt;&gt;&gt;&quot;He got convicted by a jury of his peers, right?&quot;

 So were a lot of people recently released from death row based on new evidence.

 Is not Toukie Smith a &quot;born again Christian?&quot; Do you doubt his faith? What did Jesus say to the convict hanging on the cross beside him, again?

--Cobra</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SeanS writes:</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;&gt;&#8221;He got convicted by a jury of his peers, right?&#8221;</p>
<p> So were a lot of people recently released from death row based on new evidence.</p>
<p> Is not Toukie Smith a &#8220;born again Christian?&#8221; Do you doubt his faith? What did Jesus say to the convict hanging on the cross beside him, again?</p>
<p>&#8211;Cobra</p>
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		<title>By: SeanS</title>
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		<dc:creator>SeanS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2005 11:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard Mike Farrell on Hannity yesterday saying how the witnesses who testified against Williams aren&#039;t credible.  He got convicted by a jury of his peers, right?  He received the appropriate sentence for the crimes he committed.  If the anti-death-sentence crowd wants to protest, that&#039;s fine, but don&#039;t try to tell me that Williams is innocent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard Mike Farrell on Hannity yesterday saying how the witnesses who testified against Williams aren&#8217;t credible.  He got convicted by a jury of his peers, right?  He received the appropriate sentence for the crimes he committed.  If the anti-death-sentence crowd wants to protest, that&#8217;s fine, but don&#8217;t try to tell me that Williams is innocent.</p>
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