Comments on: Snarkasm – cheap shots for the rest of us http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/12/06/snarkasm-cheap-shots-for-the-rest-of-us/ Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:49:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Karl Karason http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/12/06/snarkasm-cheap-shots-for-the-rest-of-us/comment-page-1/#comment-63373 Karl Karason Wed, 07 Dec 2005 18:00:53 +0000 http://lashawnbarber.com/?p=1681#comment-63373 Ok fair enough, you got me, I can not name an example of toenail pulling and I’m sure there have been documented milk and cookie instances on a number of occasions. My point was that you don’t have to be in favor of treating prisoners like they where at a holiday resort if you are against torturing them. I am fairly certain that you knew that though. I lean in the direction of avoiding torture as a means of getting information out of prisoners. I would have to see very persuasive evidence to accept that the U.S. should change its policy on how prisoners are interrogated. If torture is a viable way of getting reliable information should the FBI not be allowed to use it in special cases? It could save lives. Don’t you think this is a very slippery slope to start going down? Ok fair enough, you got me, I can not name an example of toenail pulling and I’m sure there have been documented milk and cookie instances on a number of occasions. My point was that you don’t have to be in favor of treating prisoners like they where at a holiday resort if you are against torturing them. I am fairly certain that you knew that though.

I lean in the direction of avoiding torture as a means of getting information out of prisoners. I would have to see very persuasive evidence to accept that the U.S. should change its policy on how prisoners are interrogated. If torture is a viable way of getting reliable information should the FBI not be allowed to use it in special cases? It could save lives. Don’t you think this is a very slippery slope to start going down?

]]> By: Mean Dean http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/12/06/snarkasm-cheap-shots-for-the-rest-of-us/comment-page-1/#comment-63358 Mean Dean Wed, 07 Dec 2005 16:46:18 +0000 http://lashawnbarber.com/?p=1681#comment-63358 Karl - you want to demonstrate instances where the U.S. pulled out toenails? Because I can give you a milk and cookies example. Karl – you want to demonstrate instances where the U.S. pulled out toenails?

Because I can give you a milk and cookies example.

]]> By: Karl Karason http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/12/06/snarkasm-cheap-shots-for-the-rest-of-us/comment-page-1/#comment-63353 Karl Karason Wed, 07 Dec 2005 16:17:43 +0000 http://lashawnbarber.com/?p=1681#comment-63353 So if people cross a certain threshold of evil, laws no longer apply? So if people cross a certain threshold of evil, laws no longer apply? These people live in the 8th century so we should use older methods in dealing with them? Why do phrases like “taking away their dessert “and “coddle them” come up when we talk about not torturing prisoners? No middle ground here? Either pull out their toenails or give them milk and cookies? So if people cross a certain threshold of evil, laws no longer apply?

So if people cross a certain threshold of evil, laws no longer apply?

These people live in the 8th century so we should use older methods in dealing with them?

Why do phrases like “taking away their dessert “and “coddle them” come up when we talk about not torturing prisoners? No middle ground here? Either pull out their toenails or give them milk and cookies?

]]> By: John M. Schwab http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/12/06/snarkasm-cheap-shots-for-the-rest-of-us/comment-page-1/#comment-63348 John M. Schwab Wed, 07 Dec 2005 14:39:59 +0000 http://lashawnbarber.com/?p=1681#comment-63348 We are dealing with a number of groups whose common threads extend back to the eighth century. They still live in the eighth century. the group from which they evolved was formed only for the purpose of raising an army to fight a war. They are still fighting a twelve hundred year old war. They have promised to kill everyone who does not believe as they do. They have attacked The United States on our soil. They have shot. blown up and beheaded our citizens around the world. They represent no nation, wear no uniform, and target civilians. They have no right to expect to be treated under the Geneva Conventions, nor should they be treated so. How many more Americans , or Israelis or Iraqis must die before we realize that taking away their dessert is not giving us the information we need to defeat them or protect our nation? We are dealing with a number of groups whose common threads extend back to the eighth century. They still live in the eighth century. the group from which they evolved was formed only for the purpose of raising an army to fight a war. They are still fighting a twelve hundred year old war. They have promised to kill everyone who does not believe as they do. They have attacked The United States on our soil. They have shot. blown up and beheaded our citizens around the world.

They represent no nation, wear no uniform, and target civilians. They have no right to expect to be treated under the Geneva Conventions, nor should they be treated so. How many more Americans , or Israelis or Iraqis must die before we realize that taking away their dessert is not giving us the information we need to defeat them or protect our nation?

]]> By: Karl Karason http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/12/06/snarkasm-cheap-shots-for-the-rest-of-us/comment-page-1/#comment-63340 Karl Karason Wed, 07 Dec 2005 09:48:41 +0000 http://lashawnbarber.com/?p=1681#comment-63340 “but that doesn’t mean we can’t coddle them back into the 21st century” Could there be a way that lies somewhere in-between torture and coddling that would be effective against our enemies ? Or are we just limited to these 2 choices ? “but that doesn’t mean we can’t coddle them back into the 21st century”

Could there be a way that lies somewhere in-between torture and coddling that would be effective against our enemies ? Or are we just limited to these 2 choices ?

]]> By: Walter E. Wallis http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/12/06/snarkasm-cheap-shots-for-the-rest-of-us/comment-page-1/#comment-63333 Walter E. Wallis Wed, 07 Dec 2005 04:38:31 +0000 http://lashawnbarber.com/?p=1681#comment-63333 Block grants just don't work. There should have been a list of permitted uses for the 9/11 money, and any deviation from the list should have been a felony. Block grants just don’t work. There should have been a list of permitted uses for the 9/11 money, and any deviation from the list should have been a felony.

]]> By: Mark Slater http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/12/06/snarkasm-cheap-shots-for-the-rest-of-us/comment-page-1/#comment-63331 Mark Slater Wed, 07 Dec 2005 02:32:59 +0000 http://lashawnbarber.com/?p=1681#comment-63331 Tom DeLay... I find it very difficult to root for Mr. Delay when I reflect that this is the man who was the foremost strong-arm in the House to implement the President's nouveau-conservative big-government spending (Dick Armey has said as much), including the disastrous medicare prescription drug plan. Perhaps Mr. Delay is innocent of the charges against him, perhaps not; but in light of Mr. Delays political actions of the last couple of years, I have to admit that I have no dog in this fight. Tom DeLay… I find it very difficult to root for Mr. Delay when I reflect that this is the man who was the foremost strong-arm in the House to implement the President’s nouveau-conservative big-government spending (Dick Armey has said as much), including the disastrous medicare prescription drug plan.

Perhaps Mr. Delay is innocent of the charges against him, perhaps not; but in light of Mr. Delays political actions of the last couple of years, I have to admit that I have no dog in this fight.

]]> By: Heliotrope http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/12/06/snarkasm-cheap-shots-for-the-rest-of-us/comment-page-1/#comment-63313 Heliotrope Tue, 06 Dec 2005 18:45:03 +0000 http://lashawnbarber.com/?p=1681#comment-63313 Mean Dean: Never, ever open the WaPo Op Ed page on Tuesday. Fish refuse to be wrapped in it. Canaries block up if their cages are lined with it. The landfill will not accept it. But, the Volvo and Brie set will fight over it down at the recycling center. Have you ever seen a reference to something written by E. Jurassic Dionne, Jr. or Richard NoZionHearted Cohen in the objective press? These two liberal whiners don't even reach the level of "left overs." Mean Dean: Never, ever open the WaPo Op Ed page on Tuesday. Fish refuse to be wrapped in it. Canaries block up if their cages are lined with it. The landfill will not accept it. But, the Volvo and Brie set will fight over it down at the recycling center.

Have you ever seen a reference to something written by E. Jurassic Dionne, Jr. or Richard NoZionHearted Cohen in the objective press? These two liberal whiners don’t even reach the level of “left overs.”

]]> By: Mean Dean http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/12/06/snarkasm-cheap-shots-for-the-rest-of-us/comment-page-1/#comment-63306 Mean Dean Tue, 06 Dec 2005 16:54:43 +0000 http://lashawnbarber.com/?p=1681#comment-63306 Frank, I think you meant to aim your snarkasm at me; btw, you're a fast learner! Perhaps you could teach Dr.Rice and the rest the techniques for which you obviously have an extended knowledge. I mean I realize the terrorist live and die by the sword, but that doesn't mean we can't coddle them back into the 21st century like the rest of us! Frank, I think you meant to aim your snarkasm at me; btw, you’re a fast learner!

Perhaps you could teach Dr.Rice and the rest the techniques for which you obviously have an extended knowledge.

I mean I realize the terrorist live and die by the sword, but that doesn’t mean we can’t coddle them back into the 21st century like the rest of us!

]]> By: Frank Zavisca http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/12/06/snarkasm-cheap-shots-for-the-rest-of-us/comment-page-1/#comment-63305 Frank Zavisca Tue, 06 Dec 2005 16:49:04 +0000 http://lashawnbarber.com/?p=1681#comment-63305 La Shawn: I was so proud of Dr Rice when questioned about "torture". As you know, I am Sicilian-Hungarian, and my wife is Polish. We are both proud that abandoned Soviet prisons in Eastern Europe are being used for "enhanced interrogation". And I hope they are re-employing some Russian interrogators. La Shawn:

I was so proud of Dr Rice when questioned about “torture”.

As you know, I am Sicilian-Hungarian, and my wife is Polish.

We are both proud that abandoned Soviet prisons in Eastern Europe are being used for “enhanced interrogation”. And I hope they are re-employing some Russian interrogators.

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