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		<title>By: candyinsierras</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2006/01/03/difficult-dialogues/comment-page-1/#comment-64398</link>
		<dc:creator>candyinsierras</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2006 16:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The root issue is not neccesarily race. The agenda is rather implementing Hegelian Dialectics, which includes &quot;dialoguing to consensus&quot;, and the goal is Socialism. The Ford Foundation, the Carnegie Foundation, the Rockefeller Foundation, and others are committed to this goal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The root issue is not neccesarily race. The agenda is rather implementing Hegelian Dialectics, which includes &#8220;dialoguing to consensus&#8221;, and the goal is Socialism. The Ford Foundation, the Carnegie Foundation, the Rockefeller Foundation, and others are committed to this goal.</p>
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		<title>By: heliotrope</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2006/01/03/difficult-dialogues/comment-page-1/#comment-64385</link>
		<dc:creator>heliotrope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2006 13:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, Amen and well stated.</description>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2006/01/03/difficult-dialogues/comment-page-1/#comment-64379</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2006 03:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark!  You used the word REPENT!!! :)

Redbeard, I&#039;m with you on the Ford/Hitler saga.  It is only with the hindsight of 40 - 60 years of future passed that we realize that some &quot;bright&quot; ideas are really bunk. Without factoring the prevailing values and morals of a time in question, it&#039;s all too easy to miss the object lessons and risk repeating those fundamental mistakes.  

To wit, Nazism, New Deal, Affirmative Action, Communism/Socialism all contained elements of discrimination, racism, eugenics, victimism, reparations, etc.  And of course, all sounded good until actually put in practice.  

The big question is whether or not, one realizes the error and &quot;repents&quot;:
 
Henry did. Hitler lost. (no direct correlation required)

Margaret Sanger didn&#039;t. Jesse Jackson sold his soul into her scheme (foresight notwithstanding).

Anyhoo, time&#039;s up.  Just wanna give a shout out to LaShawn &amp; friends... Let the New Year begin!! 8)

Ciao

&lt;b&gt;The Day Begins&lt;/b&gt;
&lt;i&gt;Cold hearted orb that rules the night
Removes the colours from our sight
Red is gray and yellow, white
But we decide which is right
And which is an illusion

Pinprick holes in a colourless sky
Let insipid figures of light pass by
The mighty light of ten thousand suns
Challenges infinity and is soon gone
Night time, to some a brief interlude
To others the fear of solitude

Brave Helios, wake up your steeds
Bring the warmth the countryside needs&lt;/i&gt;
The Moody Blues, DAYS OF FUTURE PASSED</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark!  You used the word REPENT!!! <img src='http://lashawnbarber.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Redbeard, I&#8217;m with you on the Ford/Hitler saga.  It is only with the hindsight of 40 &#8211; 60 years of future passed that we realize that some &#8220;bright&#8221; ideas are really bunk. Without factoring the prevailing values and morals of a time in question, it&#8217;s all too easy to miss the object lessons and risk repeating those fundamental mistakes.  </p>
<p>To wit, Nazism, New Deal, Affirmative Action, Communism/Socialism all contained elements of discrimination, racism, eugenics, victimism, reparations, etc.  And of course, all sounded good until actually put in practice.  </p>
<p>The big question is whether or not, one realizes the error and &#8220;repents&#8221;:</p>
<p>Henry did. Hitler lost. (no direct correlation required)</p>
<p>Margaret Sanger didn&#8217;t. Jesse Jackson sold his soul into her scheme (foresight notwithstanding).</p>
<p>Anyhoo, time&#8217;s up.  Just wanna give a shout out to LaShawn &amp; friends&#8230; Let the New Year begin!! <img src='http://lashawnbarber.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Ciao</p>
<p><b>The Day Begins</b><br />
<i>Cold hearted orb that rules the night<br />
Removes the colours from our sight<br />
Red is gray and yellow, white<br />
But we decide which is right<br />
And which is an illusion</p>
<p>Pinprick holes in a colourless sky<br />
Let insipid figures of light pass by<br />
The mighty light of ten thousand suns<br />
Challenges infinity and is soon gone<br />
Night time, to some a brief interlude<br />
To others the fear of solitude</p>
<p>Brave Helios, wake up your steeds<br />
Bring the warmth the countryside needs</i><br />
The Moody Blues, DAYS OF FUTURE PASSED</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Slater</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2006/01/03/difficult-dialogues/comment-page-1/#comment-64372</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Slater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2006 21:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hitler was motivated by hatred and lust for power.  There are those in this society who have much the same motivation, and to do this they have no problem with creating mischief among the races, among the social classes, between man and woman, etc.

Just because race cannot be defined scientifically doesnt mean it doesn&#039;t exists (difine love, virtue, and honor scientifically).  But please do not misunderstand, I was not attempting to bring &quot;race&quot; into anything in the same manner as the notorious race baiters/hustlers.

The problems in the Black community/culture... &quot;desparate culture&quot; as you aptly described it,.. can be solved in the same way as any other people:  by kneeling and repentance and endevoring to follow God&#039;s Law and His standards, which is the perfect Law of Liberty (II Timothy)

Again, please do not construe anything I may have said as inflammatory (for we both know the kind who does that)!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hitler was motivated by hatred and lust for power.  There are those in this society who have much the same motivation, and to do this they have no problem with creating mischief among the races, among the social classes, between man and woman, etc.</p>
<p>Just because race cannot be defined scientifically doesnt mean it doesn&#8217;t exists (difine love, virtue, and honor scientifically).  But please do not misunderstand, I was not attempting to bring &#8220;race&#8221; into anything in the same manner as the notorious race baiters/hustlers.</p>
<p>The problems in the Black community/culture&#8230; &#8220;desparate culture&#8221; as you aptly described it,.. can be solved in the same way as any other people:  by kneeling and repentance and endevoring to follow God&#8217;s Law and His standards, which is the perfect Law of Liberty (II Timothy)</p>
<p>Again, please do not construe anything I may have said as inflammatory (for we both know the kind who does that)!</p>
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		<title>By: Heliotrope</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2006/01/03/difficult-dialogues/comment-page-1/#comment-64357</link>
		<dc:creator>Heliotrope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2006 16:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, the problem with &quot;race&quot; is that it can not be defined scientifically. Therefore, when one of Hitler&#039;s ideal Aryan types claims to be &quot;black&quot;, we are left with the lame &quot;proof&quot; of what we see and feel. Or we go to the same process of family trees Hitler used to find out how much Gypsy or Jewish &quot;blood&quot; coursed through the victim&#039;s veins.

So long as we ignorantly believe in and allow the bogus issue of differentiated &quot;race&quot; to persist, it is fair game to attribute strengths and deficiencies as characteristics due to race.

Most prejudice and bigotry stems from what we behold with our eyes. That phenomenon is entirely cultural and can be unlearned.

The desperate culture among an outrageously large number of black skinned Americans is an obscenity that must be destroyed. That culture is rife with drugs, single young teen mothers, males who do not get basic education and end up in prison at rates beyond imagination. They are stirred up by violence, malnourished from trash diets and encouraged by musical propaganda and hoop dreams.

Nothing in the bleak picture painted above is about race. It is tribalism most foul and about a culture of misery and failure.

To try to defend or explain it misses the point entirely. No force is aligned and organized to make these people this way and to keep them acting as they do.

The dialog is not about race, it is about culture and culture alone.

Close your eyes to the color of the skin, the texture of the hair, shape of the eyes, etc. Put the person behind a curtain. Now list his problems and his strengths. Would changing one physical characteristic make a positive difference? Of course not.

Since Reggie White and God got thrown into this discussion, may I offer that &quot;yes, Jesus loves me......&quot; Race divides us, culture brings us together. Especially the culture of love.

The race pimps depend on keeping the &quot;race&quot; issue in the forefront while burying the cultural depression of so many. You buy into their race-baiting and religious voodoo and medicineman tactics at your own peril.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, the problem with &#8220;race&#8221; is that it can not be defined scientifically. Therefore, when one of Hitler&#8217;s ideal Aryan types claims to be &#8220;black&#8221;, we are left with the lame &#8220;proof&#8221; of what we see and feel. Or we go to the same process of family trees Hitler used to find out how much Gypsy or Jewish &#8220;blood&#8221; coursed through the victim&#8217;s veins.</p>
<p>So long as we ignorantly believe in and allow the bogus issue of differentiated &#8220;race&#8221; to persist, it is fair game to attribute strengths and deficiencies as characteristics due to race.</p>
<p>Most prejudice and bigotry stems from what we behold with our eyes. That phenomenon is entirely cultural and can be unlearned.</p>
<p>The desperate culture among an outrageously large number of black skinned Americans is an obscenity that must be destroyed. That culture is rife with drugs, single young teen mothers, males who do not get basic education and end up in prison at rates beyond imagination. They are stirred up by violence, malnourished from trash diets and encouraged by musical propaganda and hoop dreams.</p>
<p>Nothing in the bleak picture painted above is about race. It is tribalism most foul and about a culture of misery and failure.</p>
<p>To try to defend or explain it misses the point entirely. No force is aligned and organized to make these people this way and to keep them acting as they do.</p>
<p>The dialog is not about race, it is about culture and culture alone.</p>
<p>Close your eyes to the color of the skin, the texture of the hair, shape of the eyes, etc. Put the person behind a curtain. Now list his problems and his strengths. Would changing one physical characteristic make a positive difference? Of course not.</p>
<p>Since Reggie White and God got thrown into this discussion, may I offer that &#8220;yes, Jesus loves me&#8230;&#8230;&#8221; Race divides us, culture brings us together. Especially the culture of love.</p>
<p>The race pimps depend on keeping the &#8220;race&#8221; issue in the forefront while burying the cultural depression of so many. You buy into their race-baiting and religious voodoo and medicineman tactics at your own peril.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Slater</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2006/01/03/difficult-dialogues/comment-page-1/#comment-64346</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Slater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2006 01:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woah, woah!  I do not believe it serves any useful function to try to pretend that race doesn&#039;t exist, or even that it pertains merely to melanin content.  Remember, &quot;Red and Yellow, Black and White, they are precious in His sight&quot;.

I&#039;m merely subscribing to the philosophy of the late, great Bible preacher and multi-year all-pro defensive lineman Reggie White, who once celebrated in a sermon the glories of race as a sign of the virtuosity of God&#039;s creation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woah, woah!  I do not believe it serves any useful function to try to pretend that race doesn&#8217;t exist, or even that it pertains merely to melanin content.  Remember, &#8220;Red and Yellow, Black and White, they are precious in His sight&#8221;.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m merely subscribing to the philosophy of the late, great Bible preacher and multi-year all-pro defensive lineman Reggie White, who once celebrated in a sermon the glories of race as a sign of the virtuosity of God&#8217;s creation.</p>
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		<title>By: RedBeard</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2006/01/03/difficult-dialogues/comment-page-1/#comment-64342</link>
		<dc:creator>RedBeard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2006 01:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My buddy won the 9-ball contest, 3 games straight, thereby proving that black men are inherently superior to white men in that realm.

Hey, don&#039;t laugh.  It makes about as much sense as most of the other racial stereotypes out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My buddy won the 9-ball contest, 3 games straight, thereby proving that black men are inherently superior to white men in that realm.</p>
<p>Hey, don&#8217;t laugh.  It makes about as much sense as most of the other racial stereotypes out there.</p>
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		<title>By: Dawnbreaker</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2006/01/03/difficult-dialogues/comment-page-1/#comment-64339</link>
		<dc:creator>Dawnbreaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2006 22:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Heliotrope for keeping it real. It&#039;s amazing how strongly people hold to the idea of biologically distinct &quot;races&quot; of people, one of the most damaging lies ever invented by human beings to justify exploiting and oppressing other human beings. All of the discussion that goes on about race is really talking about the disastrous consequences of the belief that there actually are &quot;races&quot; and that some of those &quot;races&quot; are superior or inferior to others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Heliotrope for keeping it real. It&#8217;s amazing how strongly people hold to the idea of biologically distinct &#8220;races&#8221; of people, one of the most damaging lies ever invented by human beings to justify exploiting and oppressing other human beings. All of the discussion that goes on about race is really talking about the disastrous consequences of the belief that there actually are &#8220;races&#8221; and that some of those &#8220;races&#8221; are superior or inferior to others.</p>
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		<title>By: Heliotrope</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2006/01/03/difficult-dialogues/comment-page-1/#comment-64334</link>
		<dc:creator>Heliotrope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2006 21:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no such thing as &quot;racial differences.&quot; Therefore, a dialog is just so much hot air. All the fuss that hides behind the skirts of &quot;race&quot; is actually group-speak about cultural turf.

I offer the following excerpt about the &quot;biology of race&quot; to  help explain why a &quot;conversation of race&quot; is bogus.

From Dr. Dennis O&#039;Neil Behavioral Sciences Department, Palomar College, San Marcos, California:

&quot;In the final analysis, it is important to keep in mind that all humans around the world today are biologically quite similar despite our superficial differences.Â  In fact, we are 99.9% genetically identical.Â  Most of the differences between us are due to our unique individual traits and being male or female.Â  When we are compared to many other kinds of  animals, it is remarkable how little variation exists within our own species.Â   There is 2-3 times more genetic variation among chimpanzees, 8-10 times more among orangutans, and thousands of times more in many insect species.Â  Most physical anthropologists would agree that human variation is not now sufficient to warrant defining separate biological races, varieties, or sub-species.Â  However, it very likely was in our prehistoric past.

In order to better understand the true  patterns of human variation, physical anthropologists have gathered detailed data about  genetically inherited traits.Â  Most of this work has been done with blood  typing, but DNA sequence comparisons are now providing an even more detailed understanding of our human biological diversity.Â 

The more we study the  precise details of human variation, the more we understand how complex are the  patterns.Â  They cannot be easily summarized or understood.Â  Yet, this  hard-earned scientific knowledge is generally ignored in most countries because of more demanding social and  political concerns.Â  As a result, discrimination based on presumed &quot;racial&quot;  groups still continues.Â  It is important to keep in mind that this &quot;racial&quot; classification often has more to do with cultural and historical distinctions than it does with biology.Â  In a very real sense, &quot;race&quot; is a distinction that is created by culture not biology.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no such thing as &#8220;racial differences.&#8221; Therefore, a dialog is just so much hot air. All the fuss that hides behind the skirts of &#8220;race&#8221; is actually group-speak about cultural turf.</p>
<p>I offer the following excerpt about the &#8220;biology of race&#8221; to  help explain why a &#8220;conversation of race&#8221; is bogus.</p>
<p>From Dr. Dennis O&#8217;Neil Behavioral Sciences Department, Palomar College, San Marcos, California:</p>
<p>&#8220;In the final analysis, it is important to keep in mind that all humans around the world today are biologically quite similar despite our superficial differences.Â  In fact, we are 99.9% genetically identical.Â  Most of the differences between us are due to our unique individual traits and being male or female.Â  When we are compared to many other kinds of  animals, it is remarkable how little variation exists within our own species.Â   There is 2-3 times more genetic variation among chimpanzees, 8-10 times more among orangutans, and thousands of times more in many insect species.Â  Most physical anthropologists would agree that human variation is not now sufficient to warrant defining separate biological races, varieties, or sub-species.Â  However, it very likely was in our prehistoric past.</p>
<p>In order to better understand the true  patterns of human variation, physical anthropologists have gathered detailed data about  genetically inherited traits.Â  Most of this work has been done with blood  typing, but DNA sequence comparisons are now providing an even more detailed understanding of our human biological diversity.Â </p>
<p>The more we study the  precise details of human variation, the more we understand how complex are the  patterns.Â  They cannot be easily summarized or understood.Â  Yet, this  hard-earned scientific knowledge is generally ignored in most countries because of more demanding social and  political concerns.Â  As a result, discrimination based on presumed &#8220;racial&#8221;  groups still continues.Â  It is important to keep in mind that this &#8220;racial&#8221; classification often has more to do with cultural and historical distinctions than it does with biology.Â  In a very real sense, &#8220;race&#8221; is a distinction that is created by culture not biology.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Walter E. Wallis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Walter E. Wallis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2006 19:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are cute when you are angry.</description>
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		<title>By: La Shawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>La Shawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2006 14:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all, such &quot;conversations&quot; are unnecessary. We talk about skin color differences entirely too much in this country, and I blame that squarely on wrong-headed government policies. But if forced at gunpoint, I&#039;d begin the discussion by emphasizing the greatness of America, despite its sometimes ugly history. Every nation on the planet has history it would prefer not to talk about. That would be the premise. I would not be interested in talking to America-haters or about how lousy America is.

Next, after acknowledging that America is the greatest and most free nation in the world, which is the reason why we&#039;d have so many different cultures and sub-cultures represented in the &quot;conversation&quot; with the &lt;em&gt;freedom&lt;/em&gt; to converse in the first place, I&#039;d acknowledge the positive things people of other cultures and religions have contributed to this country. The whole conservation would be a sham, however, if we didn&#039;t eventually get to negative aspects of &quot;multiculturalism&quot; and why I think it&#039;s a destructive, divisive, and unnecessary ideology.

Then on to the ubiquitous white/black issue. Weâ€™d openly discuss the stereotypes each race has about the other and the truth of some of those stereotypes (criminality, perceived racism, etc.). Weâ€™d have an honest dialogue about why blacks are perceived a certain way, and weâ€™d do the same with whites. Despite all that, what common ground do we have? Weâ€™re Americans with all the rights of citizenship guaranteed in the Constitution, etc.

The â€œdialogueâ€ would be vast, deep, and no-holds-barred, but the one ground rule established would be no â€œdead white maleâ€ bashing without an equally voracious bash of males of other races. In other words, if the world is a mess, we all have a share in the blame.

I doubt such a â€œconversationâ€ would ever take place among liberals, but since I donâ€™t hang out with liberals much anymore, I could be mistaken.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, such &#8220;conversations&#8221; are unnecessary. We talk about skin color differences entirely too much in this country, and I blame that squarely on wrong-headed government policies. But if forced at gunpoint, I&#8217;d begin the discussion by emphasizing the greatness of America, despite its sometimes ugly history. Every nation on the planet has history it would prefer not to talk about. That would be the premise. I would not be interested in talking to America-haters or about how lousy America is.</p>
<p>Next, after acknowledging that America is the greatest and most free nation in the world, which is the reason why we&#8217;d have so many different cultures and sub-cultures represented in the &#8220;conversation&#8221; with the <em>freedom</em> to converse in the first place, I&#8217;d acknowledge the positive things people of other cultures and religions have contributed to this country. The whole conservation would be a sham, however, if we didn&#8217;t eventually get to negative aspects of &#8220;multiculturalism&#8221; and why I think it&#8217;s a destructive, divisive, and unnecessary ideology.</p>
<p>Then on to the ubiquitous white/black issue. Weâ€™d openly discuss the stereotypes each race has about the other and the truth of some of those stereotypes (criminality, perceived racism, etc.). Weâ€™d have an honest dialogue about why blacks are perceived a certain way, and weâ€™d do the same with whites. Despite all that, what common ground do we have? Weâ€™re Americans with all the rights of citizenship guaranteed in the Constitution, etc.</p>
<p>The â€œdialogueâ€ would be vast, deep, and no-holds-barred, but the one ground rule established would be no â€œdead white maleâ€ bashing without an equally voracious bash of males of other races. In other words, if the world is a mess, we all have a share in the blame.</p>
<p>I doubt such a â€œconversationâ€ would ever take place among liberals, but since I donâ€™t hang out with liberals much anymore, I could be mistaken.</p>
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		<title>By: Dawnbreaker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dawnbreaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2006 13:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi LaShawn

Frequent reader, first comment. I&#039;m wondering what you would consider to be a more useful or constructive dialogue about race. Or do you believe that all such &quot;dialogues&quot; are a waste of time. If you were planning to have people talk about race what you do differently and what would be your objective?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi LaShawn</p>
<p>Frequent reader, first comment. I&#8217;m wondering what you would consider to be a more useful or constructive dialogue about race. Or do you believe that all such &#8220;dialogues&#8221; are a waste of time. If you were planning to have people talk about race what you do differently and what would be your objective?</p>
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		<title>By: RedBeard</title>
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		<dc:creator>RedBeard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2006 11:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heliotrope, two things come to mind here. 

First, there is conflicting information about Ford&#039;s WWII German plant.  According to Snopes, &quot;Professor Simon Reich of Pittsburgh University has concluded that the Ford Company in America had lost control of Ford in Germany during the war and so did not profit from its activities.&quot;  I hope that is the case.  This is not to white-wash Henry Ford by any means.  He was, to his infinite discredit, a virulent anti-semite.  This won him the admiration of Adolph Hitler in the days prior to WWII, earning Ford the medal you mentioned.  But Ford did renounce his anti-semitic writings, and when war broke out he destroyed his Nazi medal.  In context, we need to remember that prior to WWII there were many prominent and loyal Americans who were suckered in by the Nazi rhetoric, good people who would come to their senses once the beast revealed itself.  

Secondly, it&#039;s sad to see how such a grand philanthropic foundation as the Ford Foundation has been turned into the primary funding arm of the leftist movement.  But the Ford Foundation is a totally independent entity and is not controlled by Ford Motor Company nor by the Ford family.  

Mea culpa.  I drive a Ford pickup.  ;-)  LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heliotrope, two things come to mind here. </p>
<p>First, there is conflicting information about Ford&#8217;s WWII German plant.  According to Snopes, &#8220;Professor Simon Reich of Pittsburgh University has concluded that the Ford Company in America had lost control of Ford in Germany during the war and so did not profit from its activities.&#8221;  I hope that is the case.  This is not to white-wash Henry Ford by any means.  He was, to his infinite discredit, a virulent anti-semite.  This won him the admiration of Adolph Hitler in the days prior to WWII, earning Ford the medal you mentioned.  But Ford did renounce his anti-semitic writings, and when war broke out he destroyed his Nazi medal.  In context, we need to remember that prior to WWII there were many prominent and loyal Americans who were suckered in by the Nazi rhetoric, good people who would come to their senses once the beast revealed itself.  </p>
<p>Secondly, it&#8217;s sad to see how such a grand philanthropic foundation as the Ford Foundation has been turned into the primary funding arm of the leftist movement.  But the Ford Foundation is a totally independent entity and is not controlled by Ford Motor Company nor by the Ford family.  </p>
<p>Mea culpa.  I drive a Ford pickup.  <img src='http://lashawnbarber.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />   LOL</p>
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		<title>By: RedBeard</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2006/01/03/difficult-dialogues/comment-page-1/#comment-64295</link>
		<dc:creator>RedBeard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2006 01:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a &quot;courageous discussion on race&quot; with a black friend a while back.  We were shooting pool and hearing a radio sound bite of Ralph Neas droning on about the &quot;ongoing racial crisis&quot; in America.  

We both, at almost the same instant, said, &quot;What a moron.&quot;  

I then said, &quot;It&#039;s your shot.&quot;

My buddy said, &quot;9 ball, corner pocket.&quot;

I love courageous discussions about race.  ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a &#8220;courageous discussion on race&#8221; with a black friend a while back.  We were shooting pool and hearing a radio sound bite of Ralph Neas droning on about the &#8220;ongoing racial crisis&#8221; in America.  </p>
<p>We both, at almost the same instant, said, &#8220;What a moron.&#8221;  </p>
<p>I then said, &#8220;It&#8217;s your shot.&#8221;</p>
<p>My buddy said, &#8220;9 ball, corner pocket.&#8221;</p>
<p>I love courageous discussions about race.  <img src='http://lashawnbarber.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Hube</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2006/01/03/difficult-dialogues/comment-page-1/#comment-64285</link>
		<dc:creator>Hube</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2006 23:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wayne, Wayne, Wayne. La Shawn is 100% right in that she doesn&#039;t need to attend such a &quot;dialogue.&quot; As I noted, these &quot;dialogues&quot; and &quot;conversations&quot; are anything BUT &quot;difficult&quot; or &quot;courageous.&quot; Well, maybe for the whites who attend since their views ain&#039;t worth much at these meetings.

I&#039;d respond to your comparison of Jackson and Sharpton to Sowell et. al., but to do so would just give credence to one of the most preposterous analogies I have ever read.

Sheesh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wayne, Wayne, Wayne. La Shawn is 100% right in that she doesn&#8217;t need to attend such a &#8220;dialogue.&#8221; As I noted, these &#8220;dialogues&#8221; and &#8220;conversations&#8221; are anything BUT &#8220;difficult&#8221; or &#8220;courageous.&#8221; Well, maybe for the whites who attend since their views ain&#8217;t worth much at these meetings.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d respond to your comparison of Jackson and Sharpton to Sowell et. al., but to do so would just give credence to one of the most preposterous analogies I have ever read.</p>
<p>Sheesh.</p>
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