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		<title>By: BIRDZILLA</title>
		<link>http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2006/01/26/oprah-eats-crow/comment-page-1/#comment-65408</link>
		<dc:creator>BIRDZILLA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2006 21:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too bad for OPHANED WINDFREAK</description>
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		<title>By: Tom Bosee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Bosee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2006 18:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I&#039;ve learned from the Frey fiasco, using my own personal history: I worked on a trawl boat out of Hatteras inlet in 12/75; we did indeed catch a white shark, and I removed the teeth and later gave them to my sister. Now over the years, the shark has grown, the boat has become a ship, and all this in my re-telling the tale. The only trouble is, my sister still has the teeth, and they are still the same size!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I&#8217;ve learned from the Frey fiasco, using my own personal history: I worked on a trawl boat out of Hatteras inlet in 12/75; we did indeed catch a white shark, and I removed the teeth and later gave them to my sister. Now over the years, the shark has grown, the boat has become a ship, and all this in my re-telling the tale. The only trouble is, my sister still has the teeth, and they are still the same size!</p>
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		<title>By: Aidan Maconachy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aidan Maconachy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2006 20:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve read excerpts of A Million Little Pieces and fictional licence is fairly evident. However, I do think Frey is being lambasted rather unfairly.

Virtually every non-fictional account of lives and times, especially when told in the manner chosen by Mr Frey contains at very least embellishments. The true test is whether the writing works or not. I would be more concerned about issues of veracity when reviewing a manufacturer&#039;s blurb prior to purchasing a pricey product.

I&#039;m Irish-Canadian so I read Frank McCourt&#039;s &quot;Angela&#039;s Ashes&quot; with some interest. There were moments when I wondered about the probability of some passages, but the question &quot;is this true or not?&quot; never became so compelling that it got in the way of my appreciation.

The category &quot;recovery memoir&quot; would probably have provided leeway for some of the &quot;sins&quot; Frey is being accused of, but I gather he chose not to place his work in that context.

I think when Smoking Gun discovered there was no mug shot to be had, they sensed they had a story on their hands and went to town on it. Part of the motivation may have been the Oprah Winfrey endorsement, because obviously whistle blowers could be assured of nationwide attention, although I&#039;m not suggesting for a moment that Smoking Gun would ever be so cynical ... ahem.

A while ago I read a book that passes itself of as biography - &quot;Meeting with Remarkable Men&quot; by one G.I. Gurdjieff. In the course of this peculiar little book we are told that during his travels as an itinerant jack-of-all-trades, the young Gurdjieff trapped sparrows which he then painted and sold as exotics to the easily deceived. In time of course the paint wore away, but by then the young mountebank was many miles away with coin clinking in his pockets.

This struck me as a tall tale; an allegory of sorts. Did it matter to me whether or not the young Gurdjieff did in fact paint and sell sparrows? Well only if I am interested in the man and matters of his truthfulness come into my assessment of his character. Otherwise, my requirements are simple - a good story that hits the mark, and his book certainly did that.

So lacking much interest in Frey the man and not having any personal stake in the  issues relating to addiction, I would tend to judge Frey&#039;s book soley on its own merits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve read excerpts of A Million Little Pieces and fictional licence is fairly evident. However, I do think Frey is being lambasted rather unfairly.</p>
<p>Virtually every non-fictional account of lives and times, especially when told in the manner chosen by Mr Frey contains at very least embellishments. The true test is whether the writing works or not. I would be more concerned about issues of veracity when reviewing a manufacturer&#8217;s blurb prior to purchasing a pricey product.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m Irish-Canadian so I read Frank McCourt&#8217;s &#8220;Angela&#8217;s Ashes&#8221; with some interest. There were moments when I wondered about the probability of some passages, but the question &#8220;is this true or not?&#8221; never became so compelling that it got in the way of my appreciation.</p>
<p>The category &#8220;recovery memoir&#8221; would probably have provided leeway for some of the &#8220;sins&#8221; Frey is being accused of, but I gather he chose not to place his work in that context.</p>
<p>I think when Smoking Gun discovered there was no mug shot to be had, they sensed they had a story on their hands and went to town on it. Part of the motivation may have been the Oprah Winfrey endorsement, because obviously whistle blowers could be assured of nationwide attention, although I&#8217;m not suggesting for a moment that Smoking Gun would ever be so cynical &#8230; ahem.</p>
<p>A while ago I read a book that passes itself of as biography &#8211; &#8220;Meeting with Remarkable Men&#8221; by one G.I. Gurdjieff. In the course of this peculiar little book we are told that during his travels as an itinerant jack-of-all-trades, the young Gurdjieff trapped sparrows which he then painted and sold as exotics to the easily deceived. In time of course the paint wore away, but by then the young mountebank was many miles away with coin clinking in his pockets.</p>
<p>This struck me as a tall tale; an allegory of sorts. Did it matter to me whether or not the young Gurdjieff did in fact paint and sell sparrows? Well only if I am interested in the man and matters of his truthfulness come into my assessment of his character. Otherwise, my requirements are simple &#8211; a good story that hits the mark, and his book certainly did that.</p>
<p>So lacking much interest in Frey the man and not having any personal stake in the  issues relating to addiction, I would tend to judge Frey&#8217;s book soley on its own merits.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2006 19:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know why people are bagging on Oprah, she was duped and she didn&#039;t know it and like most of us would, she refused to acknowledge it.  I am happy Oprah came out swinging at this Frey character.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know why people are bagging on Oprah, she was duped and she didn&#8217;t know it and like most of us would, she refused to acknowledge it.  I am happy Oprah came out swinging at this Frey character.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted  Wegener</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted  Wegener</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2006 18:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ted  Wegener</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted  Wegener</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2006 18:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Update: Well, I watched Oprah today. I was glad to see she apologized to everyone. She has been embarrased and was a little angry I thought. But at least she apologized.

As for Mr. Frey he seemed a little pitiful. He had difficulty being honest and it looked to me like he had difficulty even being honest with himself. And to think this man was held up as an example of &quot;recovery&quot;. Im quite sure his book hasnt really helped anyone. It was graphic and horriffic in its fabricated details but he evidenced little understanding about addiction.

I was glad to see Oprah pinned him down on the fabrication about the root canals. He squirmed and didnt want to admit it but she finally got him to fess up it didnt happen or at least he wasnt sure. As I said in previous posts Ive been in those drug treatment programs and I never heard of anybody being denied novocain for dental care.

Oprah says her pick of the novel/memoir &quot;Night&quot; was just a coincidence. Thats a little hard to swallow. It seemed to me it was spin and damage control. It was like saying, &quot;See no big deal lots of memoirs are fictionalized&quot;. However, she insists that isnt so. Its suspicious but I&#039;ll give her the benefit of the doubt.

After my memoir is published I&#039;ll send it to her along with my rap sheet. Who knows maybe I can get picked for her book club. She should be looking for one that is true and verifiable now.

Anyway, she did the right thing even if she was a little angry.


And, yes, Oprah. Truth matters.

At the end of the show the question was asked:

&quot;How much value does contemporary culture place on truth?&quot;

Very little Oprah. We have a whole society that buys into the lie that addiction is a &quot;disease&quot;. Thats how dishonest this society is.

Ted Wegener

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.christianrecoveryblogspot.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Christian Recovery&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Update: Well, I watched Oprah today. I was glad to see she apologized to everyone. She has been embarrased and was a little angry I thought. But at least she apologized.</p>
<p>As for Mr. Frey he seemed a little pitiful. He had difficulty being honest and it looked to me like he had difficulty even being honest with himself. And to think this man was held up as an example of &#8220;recovery&#8221;. Im quite sure his book hasnt really helped anyone. It was graphic and horriffic in its fabricated details but he evidenced little understanding about addiction.</p>
<p>I was glad to see Oprah pinned him down on the fabrication about the root canals. He squirmed and didnt want to admit it but she finally got him to fess up it didnt happen or at least he wasnt sure. As I said in previous posts Ive been in those drug treatment programs and I never heard of anybody being denied novocain for dental care.</p>
<p>Oprah says her pick of the novel/memoir &#8220;Night&#8221; was just a coincidence. Thats a little hard to swallow. It seemed to me it was spin and damage control. It was like saying, &#8220;See no big deal lots of memoirs are fictionalized&#8221;. However, she insists that isnt so. Its suspicious but I&#8217;ll give her the benefit of the doubt.</p>
<p>After my memoir is published I&#8217;ll send it to her along with my rap sheet. Who knows maybe I can get picked for her book club. She should be looking for one that is true and verifiable now.</p>
<p>Anyway, she did the right thing even if she was a little angry.</p>
<p>And, yes, Oprah. Truth matters.</p>
<p>At the end of the show the question was asked:</p>
<p>&#8220;How much value does contemporary culture place on truth?&#8221;</p>
<p>Very little Oprah. We have a whole society that buys into the lie that addiction is a &#8220;disease&#8221;. Thats how dishonest this society is.</p>
<p>Ted Wegener</p>
<p><a href="http://www.christianrecoveryblogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Christian Recovery</a></p>
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		<title>By: marie</title>
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		<dc:creator>marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2006 08:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He should have said I don&#039;t remember more than 50 times like Ronald Reagan did when questioned about trading arms with Iran ;0)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He should have said I don&#8217;t remember more than 50 times like Ronald Reagan did when questioned about trading arms with Iran ;0)</p>
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		<title>By: yvonne</title>
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		<dc:creator>yvonne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2006 03:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I saw  the first show that James Frey was on with Oprah, something inside me told me that he wasn&#039;t being upfront about something. If you watched that show, people in the audience  and Oprah,were asking him questions about those very same incidents in the book,that he&#039;s now proven to embellished. James Frey during that hold hour could not give  any good explanations for those questions being asked and I have never been on drugs, but read,heard and witness the devastation of what drugs can do to a person. James Frey stories are almost superman like. I never bought the book. It sounded Hollywood. By the way wasn&#039;t he a screen writer?

As for Oprah, will somebody be so kind to share the gospel of Jesus Christ with her. She proves over and over that she is lost and has no affiliation with the creator of this universe, except by creation.

Oh, she looked fabulous didn&#039;t she!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I saw  the first show that James Frey was on with Oprah, something inside me told me that he wasn&#8217;t being upfront about something. If you watched that show, people in the audience  and Oprah,were asking him questions about those very same incidents in the book,that he&#8217;s now proven to embellished. James Frey during that hold hour could not give  any good explanations for those questions being asked and I have never been on drugs, but read,heard and witness the devastation of what drugs can do to a person. James Frey stories are almost superman like. I never bought the book. It sounded Hollywood. By the way wasn&#8217;t he a screen writer?</p>
<p>As for Oprah, will somebody be so kind to share the gospel of Jesus Christ with her. She proves over and over that she is lost and has no affiliation with the creator of this universe, except by creation.</p>
<p>Oh, she looked fabulous didn&#8217;t she!</p>
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		<title>By: carmen</title>
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		<dc:creator>carmen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2006 00:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bah! She&#039;s only doing face saving.</description>
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		<title>By: Renee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Renee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2006 23:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally off topic...
But isn&#039;t it great that we live in a country where the person who:

1.  is the RICHEST (or pretty close to it)
2.  can say the name of a book they read and millions will follow suit
3.  celebrities fight each other to be a guest on their show
4.  has their own religion named after them (with their own gospel message of inclusiveness and intolerance)
5.  can go on national TV, on their own show, and rip a white man apart for lying

IS (drum roll please)...
a BLACK WOMAN!!!  (and she didn&#039;t even have a silver spoon in her mouth, light-skin, or any of the other stereotypes)

For some reason the race pimps (including Hilary who is still hanging out on a plantation somewhere) missed that one ;-)

Ya just gotta luv America!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally off topic&#8230;<br />
But isn&#8217;t it great that we live in a country where the person who:</p>
<p>1.  is the RICHEST (or pretty close to it)<br />
2.  can say the name of a book they read and millions will follow suit<br />
3.  celebrities fight each other to be a guest on their show<br />
4.  has their own religion named after them (with their own gospel message of inclusiveness and intolerance)<br />
5.  can go on national TV, on their own show, and rip a white man apart for lying</p>
<p>IS (drum roll please)&#8230;<br />
a BLACK WOMAN!!!  (and she didn&#8217;t even have a silver spoon in her mouth, light-skin, or any of the other stereotypes)</p>
<p>For some reason the race pimps (including Hilary who is still hanging out on a plantation somewhere) missed that one <img src='http://lashawnbarber.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Ya just gotta luv America!</p>
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		<title>By: Katy Raymond</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katy Raymond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2006 23:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Poor James Frey. This could be enough to drive him back into the arms of Mary Jane.</description>
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		<title>By: AAwakenings</title>
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		<dc:creator>AAwakenings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2006 22:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More coverage on this from La Shawn BarberÂ  </description>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2006 21:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Things like this exercise in bleating nonsense are why I prefer working with, and reading, fiction and satire...People deal with it a lot better, and thoroughly enjoy it, when you&#039;re telling the truth disguised as a lie rather than telling a lie disguised as the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Things like this exercise in bleating nonsense are why I prefer working with, and reading, fiction and satire&#8230;People deal with it a lot better, and thoroughly enjoy it, when you&#8217;re telling the truth disguised as a lie rather than telling a lie disguised as the truth.</p>
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		<title>By: The Real Ugly American.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Real Ugly American.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2006 21:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Oprah / Million Little Lies Update&lt;/strong&gt;

	Grrr. For some reason my Tivo didn&#8217;t record Oprah yesterday. However I did see clips all evening of the program on Scarborough Country, Larry King, and Tucker Carlson&#8217;s show, Anderson Cooper&#8217;s show, etc. 
	It looked to me like Oprah ...</description>
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<p>	Grrr. For some reason my Tivo didn&#8217;t record Oprah yesterday. However I did see clips all evening of the program on Scarborough Country, Larry King, and Tucker Carlson&#8217;s show, Anderson Cooper&#8217;s show, etc.<br />
	It looked to me like Oprah &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ljbgranny</title>
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		<dc:creator>ljbgranny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2006 19:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could I please address TeeJay and Holocaust comments?  I know it&#039;s off topic, and I apologize in advance.  But as a child in the 50&#039;s, I saw news film of mass Jewish graves, dead, naked bodies who had been massacred.  Our troops and the reporters with them shot these films.  If you read any of the memoirs of soldiers who entered Germany, you can find the TRUTH about the Holocuast.  Indeed, there was one.
And, by the way, we do need to know if something is REAL or MADE UP.  Makes a huge difference and not just in literature.
And there are GOOD people who have faults, and BAD people who can deceive.  There IS objective truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could I please address TeeJay and Holocaust comments?  I know it&#8217;s off topic, and I apologize in advance.  But as a child in the 50&#8217;s, I saw news film of mass Jewish graves, dead, naked bodies who had been massacred.  Our troops and the reporters with them shot these films.  If you read any of the memoirs of soldiers who entered Germany, you can find the TRUTH about the Holocuast.  Indeed, there was one.<br />
And, by the way, we do need to know if something is REAL or MADE UP.  Makes a huge difference and not just in literature.<br />
And there are GOOD people who have faults, and BAD people who can deceive.  There IS objective truth.</p>
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