Hackers are attacking Michelle Malkin’s servers (site was down for most of the morning) — probably because she posted a lot of Danish-Muhammad cartoons on her site in defiance of haters and their goal to shut down dissent by any means necessary. Defy on, Michelle! (She’s sicced the FBI on the idiots.)
Until her site is up completely, Michelle is blogging at Pajamas Media.
When people have no argument, no leg to stand on, and severely limited reasoning ability, the impulse is to attack personally and peripherally. I’ve been and will continue to be the target of similar irrational impulses. Dissenters and haters won’t silence Michelle, they won’t silence me, and I hope you won’t let them silence you!
(Hat tip: Debbie Schlussel)
Others blogging: Bryan Preston, Sister Toldjah, Bruce Armstrong…
Update:
1) From The Brussels Journal:
In Europe a secularized post-Christian culture is facing a Muslim one. The secularized culture is hedonist and values only its present life, because it does not believe in an afterlife. This is why it will surrender when threatened with death because life is the only thing it has to lose. This is why it will accept submission without fighting for its freedom. Nobody fights for the flag of hedonism, not even the hedonists themselves.
2) A liberal and a conservative find common ground.
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You knew it was going to come to this.
The so-called *Religion of Peace* is at it again.
These gutless wonders that KILL in the name of Allah are COWARDS.
Unless they can attack with a suicide bomb belt, or in a group of 25 to 1, or kidnap a helpless female journalist, or hold down and behead a bound and helpless VICTIM, they are not brave enough to stand and fight, man to man.
And to attack a ‘net server?? Over some goofy cartoons??
MY God never instructed me to kill, or attack anyone in His name because they didn’t believe in Him or made fun of Him, all MY God wants is for me to try and spread His word to the non-believer, He never said a thing about cutting their heads off..
And ANY religion that claims their MoMo wants all killed that don’t believe in him or insult him are nothing more than a radical cult..
Religion of Nutcases is more like it..
It could be Islamofascists, or more likely it’s some flea-infested American leftie apologists for the Islamofascists.
La Shawn, a lot of my readers also read Michelle, I am going to copy and paste your post to my site as well…
There’s more than one way to skin a terrorist..
Thanks, Fred!
Redbeard - That’s why I didn’t write “Islamofascists” and used the generic word, “haters.” It could be Muslims; it could be some bored American leftist geek.
I have been reading your blog for about a year now, and for the most part I agree with many of your comments. However, here I believe we part ways. I think we as Christians have an obligation to show love and respect to people of all other religions, no matter what they think about us. Yes, they may defame our Lord, and mock Him, but vengeance belongs to God not to us. To willfully display cartoons that mock another’s belief, in my humble opinion, does not display the Christian attitude that I have seen exemplified in your previous writing. This is the first time I’ve ever posted anything, and I’m sorry that it is something negative, but I felt compelled to share. Thanks. Lakeisha
La Shawn, I was actually responding to #1 and #2. But you’re so right, the haters come in every flavor these days, from leftie politicos to A.N.S.W.E.R. communists to Islamofascists to those degenerates like Fred Phelps who are just plain insane. What ever happened to civility?
I don’t agree with the hacking of anybody’s site for any reason. However, I do question the posting of the cartoons given that they are offensive to Islamists. Does she have the right to post them? Absolutely. Was it a good judgement call? Not at all.
Remember when Kanye was portrayed as Jesus on the cover of the RS and Christians got all bent out of shape? They had a RIGHT to print that cover, but it wasn’t a good judgement call. If you want us to respect your religion and it’s symbols, you have to respect others as well.
Until Christians start hacking off heads and hacking into servers because of offensive Jesus cartoons, your point falls flat. - Admin
So other religions have to be 100% respectful of Christianity before Christians can be respectful of them? I’m with #6 on this one. I was raised in the church and I was taught to be respectful of others always, not only when they are respectful to me (the Golden Rule).
Redbeard - That’s why I didn’t write “Islamofascists†and used the generic word, “haters.†It could be Muslims; it could be some bored American leftist geek.
Well, I stick my head into the lion’s mouth.
There’s plenty of hate to go around, and it isn’t limited to any religion or political ideology.
In fact, I would consider anyone who mocks an ENTIRE RELIGION to be a “hater”. I think the Danish-Muhammad cartoons themselves are hateful, and those who celebrate their publication, as opposed to defending their publication, are not coming from a kind and generous place. Malkin — arguably — falls in that category.
I’m not endorsing the hack attack on her site — I believe in free speech as much as everyone here. I’m just saying that “hate” is in the eye of the beholder, and there’s plenty of it to go around.
Okay, go at me now.
Wow, I love the *appeasers* I am seeing in here this AM..
What part of *THIS IS WAR* did you guys miss??
I know, turn the other cheek and all that but hey, after a while, when BOTH cheeks are sore, are you going to fight back then?? Or just roll over and die?? Because THAT is exactly what the radicals, Islamic or otherwise, WANT you to do, roll over and appease… Makes their job a lot easier when they don’t have so many Americans willing to defend America…
Publishing the cartoons originally was in bad taste, no question. Publishing them now, after the riots and arsons and murders, is done for a different reason. Now it’s being done to tell the Islamofascists that they cannot intimidate the rest of the world with their violent acts.
Sorry, I’ve seen the cartoons, and I did not think that any of them were in bad taste. The only bad taste appears to be from the Islamic fascists who somehow think that an “insult” justifies murder and destruction of the property of others.
The offensiveness comes not from the cartoons themselves, but from their religious belief that Muhammad should not be portrayed in any way. They see anyone who publishes the cartoons, especially now after their belief has been made very clear, as doing so to purposely demean their religion. That doesn’t justify murder or any other violence, but does justify how angry they are over what we consider to be “just cartoons”.
No one is arguing that the anger isn’t justified, Thomas. Somewhere in there I guess you have a point, but your Strawman keeps getting in the way.
You say you’re not a believer; that’s on you. Do yourself a favor, though. The Bible has value even for unbelievers and addresses the subject of anger - and just about any other topic you can think of. Read it.
I agree with TexasFred, they are gutless wonders; notice in all the videos they make their faces are covered? If they had the courage of their convictions they would appear unmasked, like Hitler, Himmler, Goering and company.
Texasfred writes:
What part of *THIS IS WAR* did you guys miss??
With WHOM, Texasfred?
If we’re at war with an entire religion, just say so. And then tell me why we haven’t arrested Muhammad Ali.
Because that’s what the cartoons do, is mock the religion of Islam. Even assuming that the cartoons are a useful tool in this “war”, they create more enemies than they destroy.
I support the “war” on terrorism, but unless we learn to separate the stuff from the stuff, we’re destined to lose it.
David Block writes:
Sorry, I’ve seen the cartoons, and I did not think that any of them were in bad taste.
No, I’m sure you didn’t. Just as I’m sure that many atheists don’t see what’s so bad about “P*ss Christ”.
Obviously, I condemn the violent response of some Muslims, but I understand the outrage from the community as a whole.
It’s pretty difficult to be tolerant of people of a religion when you see thousands of followers chanting death to America, when you actually see the murderous acts they commit toward completely innocent bystanders, when you see them call for obliteration of entire countries of other faiths, when you see them put a price on the heads of cartoonists in another country, and when you DON’T see condemnation of these horrible acts by their own religious or governmental leaders. These are not isolated acts by a few people. This is JIHAD.
#19, I agree it’s difficult, but I remember from my church days that we were told doing the right thing is not always easy.
An important thing to note is being tolerant of other religions does NOT mean you have to be tolerant of acts such as murder, kidnapping, etc. performed by extremists who claim to be doing it in the name of that religion. I always try to be tolerant of Christians, but I don’t tolerate acts such as abortion clinic bombings performed by extremists who claim to be doing it in the name of God.
As a first time poster I first want to thank LaShawn for her hard work.
To address the issue of the cartoons. I don’t see any in bad taste and assuming the islam teaches that the prophet mohhamed is not to be portayed that would only apply to muslims just like christian, jewish or buddhist teachings only apply to those active in that particular faith. The second point is that they were meant as political commentary just like ted rall or any other political cartoonist’s work.
Now to Kman’s many cooments. While I think you are wrong in your many assessments I will defend to the death your right to have them heard (Hint that is called free speach). Regardless of if you agree with the Danish cartoonist’s or not, Denmark is a free country and the last I knew thay allowed freedom of expression (no matter who it might offend). There is never any justification for committing a terrorist act in the name of religion!!!
Now on to the issue of hacking and cyber-jihad. This is going to be an issue for a long time to come. since those of the islamo-facist bent will use any means available to attack those who disagree with their beliefs. Fortunately Michille is used to extremist behavior directed towards her and will weather the storm well.
It’s OK K-Man, Alaska probably will be the last spot to be hit and you can appease all you like but YES, it IS war, it’s called the Crusades, 21st century version and we are facing an enemy, radical Islam, that has NO compunctions about cutting off the head of ANY infidel, and that would be ME and God only knows how many other Christians.
Being a Christian doesn’t mean you have to be a wuss, you DO know that don’t you??
You can appease all you like, YOU have that right in America, for now..
I think you need to ask yourself, “will I have that right if I appease the radical Muslims and they take over the USA??” and IF that were to happen, ask yourself this, “Do I have the cojones to stand up and fight the radical Islamics that ARE attacking MY country or will I just go quietly to Islamic education classes??”
I’d think Ray Charles would be able to see THAT answer..
Given that Denmark’s lax immigration policies have let in a flood of muslim immigrants (many of whom are racist islamophobes) that they have never integrated into Danish culture, printing those cartoons was a lot like pouring kerosene all over a room and then standing in the middle of the room and lighting a match.
Yeah you are within your rights to do it but it will have consequences and you will not escape them, no matter what your rights are.
That can be applied to much of western Europe.
i have no problem with the cartoon poster at all. its very hilarious on my behalf. we need to have something like this at times to reflect on what happened on 911. so keep up the good! your backed by me 100%.
Why is it that a lot of people say, yes we have freedom of speech but please use it wisely so you do not offend anybody? That is such a load of c… , freedom of speech is the right to dispute religions and opinions, the western world would not be as well developed as it is today if it hadn’t been for our right to question things. And why shouldn’t a Danish newspaper print the cartoon of Mohammed with a bomb on his head, it represents the cartoonist view on Islam (and its shared by many) when extremist are doing the talking for Islam. Islamic taboos applies to Muslims only, and a religion whose followers are so prone to violence and always demanding others to submit to them and adapt their way of life really needs to be questioned
Hi La Shawn,
I certainly appreciated seeing your post about the ex-gay bulletin board defacement. This information needs to be shown to the general public. The media often ignores and/or refuses to report such incidences. Why? Because the powerful and influencial gay lobby has such a stranglehold on how the media portrays gays.
It appears that those who have called for “tolerance” for so many years are unwilling to offer any tolerance towards those who desire to leave unwanted homosexual behavior and/or those who have successfully done so!
As a friend and supporter of the ministry of Stephen Bennett and his revolutionary radio talk show Straight Talk Radio, I have firsthand knowledge of the intolerance, bigotry, defamation and hatred that is often leveled at people involved in this kind of ministry. Those who suffer the most at the hands of rabid gay activists are Christian ex-gays.
There are several posts and comments about this volatile issue at my Talkwisdom blog. You will find a lot of intense rhetoric in the battle that is currently being waged by gay activists and how they absolutely hate ANY ex-gay ministry effort that is being offered.
Michele Malkin must be doing something right…and the jihadist cyber-attackers don’t like it one bit! Their hissy-fit against your site just proves how small and petty they really are…
Idiots…
Let’s see if your boss at Morgan, Lewis and Bockius is just as “thin-skinned” after I forward your comment. Let me know, will you? (I think I used to work near there) - Admin
It perhaps adds a little to the severity of the problem factor to see sanctimonious Christians become indistinguishable from sanctimonious athiest multiculturalist relativists.
Imo, no one has a duty to submissively die/be sacrificed at the hands of evil in order to prove their own worth or the worth of their values, though anyone can choose to do so if s/he likes. But just count me out of the death-worship-as-value cult - the tolerance at all costs neurosis. It’s really only suicidal, imo.
Is this “sanctimonious Christians” comment directed toward me, by any chance? - Admin
Publish the cartoons? Heck yeah. Some of you folks forget the original reason why Flemming Rose and Co published ‘em way back in the fall. They were exploring the implications of Islamic influence on their culture. Excellent motivation. At any rate, freedom of speech is one of the cornerstones of democracy, and that’s just about the best system we’ve got going. You back down on that one and you’re gonna be backing down on a heckuva lot more, and fast. If religions/thought-forms want to exist in the public arena of modern civ, then they have to be willing to take their knocks. I don’t read anywhere in Christian theology that you gotta take it on the chin like a spineless weenie. The apostle Paul was willing to go to jail, argue his beliefs in public, etc. He offended people right and left. The truth’s offensive, but it sure is the kindest option in the long run. Tolerance, the way it’s getting thrown around, is a modern weirdness that needs to be tossed with the moldy yogurt.
Over and out.
So let me get this straight.
Conservatives are OUTRAGED anytime somebody criticizes the President and his Administration for entering into this war, and their conduct.
Conservatives are OUTRAGED at media outlets that publish ACTUAL pictures of the Abu Ghraib torture scandal, or sworn testimony of the prisoner abuses at Gitmo.
Conservatives are OUTRAGED at anti-war protesters and demonstrators.
The reason they give for this “outrage” is usually that this type of activity “emboldens our enemies” and “foments hatred of us in the Islamic world”, putting our American troops in harm’s way, and making the mission of winning hearts and minds over there far more difficult.
HERE, we have Conservatives doing the EXACT SAME THING by reprinting cartoons that blaspheme the main religious figure of 1.2 billion Muslim inhabitants, as though our troops over seas don’t have ENOUGH to overcome already.
What is WRONG with you folks? Do you think, from the comfort and safety of your homes while typing this, Michelle Malkin, or any other of these “keyboard kommandoes” is doing our troops in the middle of an Islamic war zone ONE BIT OF GOOD by re-shifting the heat from Dutch cartoonists to American bloggers who dig them? Don’t you understand that the religion of the people who we’re supposed to be fighting is ALSO the religion of the people we claim to have “liberated and allied ourselves with?”
–Cobra
>What is WRONG with you folks? Do you think, from the comfort and safety of your homes while typing this, Michelle Malkin, or any other of these “keyboard kommandoes†is doing our troops in the middle of an Islamic war zone ONE BIT OF GOOD by re-shifting the heat from Dutch cartoonists to American bloggers who dig them? Don’t you understand that the religion of the people who we’re supposed to be fighting is ALSO the religion of the people we claim to have “liberated and allied ourselves with?â€
When people are heated up they tend to filter out reason and common sense.
In any case I don’t feel sorry for Europeans dealing with this issue. Their secularist religion over there has destroyed any real values they ever had. They mock and despise everything having to do with traditional religiousity and values and morals. Now they have the nerve to mock muslim extremists while being surrounded by a virtual sea of them, all of which is their own fault.
Good luck to them.
To Cobra:
let me get this straight you are willing to compromise the freedom of expression, to follow every command of various movements, religious or not, if they feel offended by your presence or way of life and say that bad things will happen if you don’t change? I think you have a very hard life in front of you
As for your concerns about the troops safety, that shouldn’t be a problem because according to a lot of Muslims, Islam is a peaceful religion. And if they feel so strongly about their religion as you say they do, the troops shouldn’t be in anymore danger than they were before the cartoons.
Just for the record: the cartoonist are Danes (not Dutch). The city council of Basra asked Danish Soldiers to leave Iraq because of the cartoons but that decision was overturned by the Iraqi government and the Danish troops have only had minor incidents with Iraqi’s since the printing of the cartoons. The cooperation with some city officials and some projects (such as training Iraqi police officers) has been slowed down a bit, but is being brought up to full speed again.
Cobra says: In any case I don’t feel sorry for Europeans dealing with this issue. Their secularist religion over there has destroyed any real values they ever had. They mock and despise everything having to do with traditional religiousity and values and morals. Now they have the nerve to mock muslim extremists while being surrounded by a virtual sea of them, all of which is their own fault.
Well, Cobra, I’m not sure how this happened, but here I am, sort of agreeing with your statement above. Scary, huh?
But that isn’t really the point here. The point is the reaction to what was published by Muslim thugs, plus the continuing reaction to people like Michelle Malkin. The violent, savage, bloodthirsty reaction is simply unacceptable to civilized society.
My ancestry, my family’s religion, and my politics are all routinely mocked, and viciously so, by leftist cartoonists. But I haven’t killed a single one of them, nor have I burned down any buildings in their neighborhood, nor have I threatened “holy” war against their countries. Odd, ain’t it?
Redbeard writes:
>>>”Well, Cobra, I’m not sure how this happened, but here I am, sort of agreeing with your statement above. Scary, huh?”
This pains me, because the first time you agree with something I say…I wasn’t actually the one who said it (Vargas did).
Here’s my problem. Conservatives claim to “support the troops.” What are our troops doing in Iraq right now? Securing facilities, patrolling neighborhoods in sweeps for insurgents, going house to house interacting directly with the Iraqi people. Why? Because as of the latest reports:
>>>”The only Iraqi battalion capable of fighting without U.S. support has been downgraded to a level requiring them to fight with American troops backing them up, the Pentagon said Friday.
The battalion, made up of 700 to 800 Iraqi Army soldiers, has repeatedly been offered by the U.S. as an example of the growing independence of the Iraqi military.”
Stand up as we Stand down?
Like I said, why do you conservatives INSIST on making the jobs of our troops in a MUSLIM COUNTRY more difficult by BLASPHEMING Islam?
TexasFred writes:
>>>”These gutless wonders that KILL in the name of Allah are COWARDS.
Unless they can attack with a suicide bomb belt, or in a group of 25 to 1, or kidnap a helpless female journalist, or hold down and behead a bound and helpless VICTIM, they are not brave enough to stand and fight, man to man.”
Well, that’s not entirely accurate, Fred. There’s a great, comprehensive article on Military.com about the Battle of Fallujah, insurgent tactics, and their willingness to fight to the death for their cause.
Who Won the Battle of Fallujah
Considering the US Marines sustained nearly 1200 casaulties in that second battle, you might want to consider the fact that the enemy does indeed fight back.
–Cobra
Cobra, that “downgrading” you seem so happy to report simply means that the battalion still requires some kind of U.S. support. That could mean anything from MP duty to carrying drinking water to the front lines. It does NOT mean that the Iraqis are failing to step up. 1/3 of all military actions are now being fought by Iraqi troops.
Instead of trying to talk down our efforts and successes, how about lending some support? We need to stand up against such disreputable and un-American jackasses as Dickie “Troops are Nazis” Durbin and John “Troops are terrorists” Kerry. Our troops in harm’s way deserve better.
I purchased one of Michelle’s books out of curiosity, I wanted to see what Ms. Malkin had to say. Her views are very extreme and divisive. There isn’t a gray area with her. The people who are in the middle in this country are the voice of reason. I’m so sick of hearing people pointing fingers at others for their miserable existence. Ms. Malkin never talks about people like Ann Coulter or any of the other Republican extremist. What do you expect from someone who calls themselves an American , and defends Internment Camps .
I’ve seen Ms. Malkin on TV and I found her to be crass and self-loathing. Has she forgotten that her ancestors were once discriminated against? Now is the time for people in this country to pull together, this book doesn’t do anything to promote understanding and tolerance. As soon as people in this country realize that people such as Ms. Malkin, make their living off of the division in this country. . . Malkin and others like her will be out of business for good.
I hear there are numerous groups going after Michelle, if you put yorself out here then stuff like this happens. I appreciate a good position but the haters will usually always go to the extreme.
Raymond B
http://www.voteswagon.com
Comment #41, “has she forgotten that her ancestors were once discriminated against?” I don’t think there is a person on this planet that doesn’t have ancestors that didn’t face discrimination at one time in history. You drive forward looking ahead, and you glance in the rear-view mirror, not the other way around.
A good way to expose anti-Americanism among leftists :
http://futurist.typepad.com/my_weblog/2006/02/an_easy_way_to_.html
#41, Maybe MM does remember that her people were discriminated against. And were oppressed. And were murdered and raped by a racist occupation force that considered her people to be a lower form of human.
Go to the library, and read up on the Japanese invasion and occupation of the Phillipines.
Rainlillie,
pardon my french but Tolerance is BS. You expect everyone to be accepted regardless of their actions. In civilized society every person has to be held to an equal standard of conduct. This is true regardless of any mitigating factors.
Just because one is black does not mean committing crimes ia an acceptable action, even if one is poor, uneducated..etc.
Just because one was abused as a child does not make being a pedophile okay.
Just because one is muslim does not make killing innocents or rioting okay.
On the subject of Ms. Malkin and her books..I am assuming (since that is the one you bring up) that you read her book on the internment camps. I don’t completely agree with all her reasoning but I found it to be well thought out and has a solid basis in historical fact. I have read other books by her and enjoyed them. I also have read books by Sean Hannity, Alan Colmes, Al Frankin and “GASP!” even Ann Coulter. I have enjoyed them all with the possible exception of Al Franken. Does that mean I agree with everything they write…no but I learn a little from each one.
I am curious on one of your comments..you feel Ms. Malkin is self loathing? Based on what? Because you don’t agree with her opinions?
And I find it funny that you bring up people who make a living off of the divisons in this country.. I personally find people like Jesse Jackson, Louis Farakan and Al Sharpton to be more in that caliber yet I see you don’t mention them.
And one last point concerning the cartoons…Muslims now claim that it is blasphmy to copy the likeness of the prophet mohhamed..yet there are many picturse of him throughtout the history of islam..Do they mean it is blasphmy for infidels to copy his image…that can’t be right since infidels do not follow the laws of sharia especially in their own countries
Most intelligent people embrace tolerance! It’s about living together peacefully with people who may look different than you, worship different than you and speak different than you do.
As far as the Muslims rioting over the cartoon, I don’t think it’s ridiculous at all. I don’t agree with the violence, but I certainly agree with their right to speak out.
Americans and non Muslims have show the highest degree of ignorance when it comes to the protest.
It’s not the cartoon, it’s the fact that the newspaper violated the sanctity of the Muslim religion by doing something that their religion forbids.
I bet you were one of the people who didn’t want the pictures of the abuse at Abugraib to be shown throughout the Muslim world, yet you support a cartoon that has disrespected the teachings of Islam.
Ms. Rainlillie,
Interesting that you seem to think you know my opinions…so tell me my opinion of your comments concerning the intolerence of Americans and non-muslims?
You point out that tolerence is working and living together PEACEFULLY with those that are different then you…I may be off base but beheding journalists, beheading christian schoolgirls, homicide bombings…the list goes on and on..to me that doesn’t seem to be peaceful at all.
The fact is that proper or not the Danish newspaper had an absolute right to publish those cartoons, but the Iman’s did not have a right to put a bounty on their heads. And hackers do not have a right to hack websites just because they do not agree with the author.
And as far as the Abu Graib pictures I had no problem with them being published..again the paper had the right to publish them. And as far as the cartoons…a clue it is called political cartooning because it exposes a certain political opinion.
Now to put this as nicely as possible. I respect your right to express your opinion and I promise I won’t go out rioting or beheading liberal schoolgirls just because I disagree with it. Oh and Have A Nice Day:)
Every religion has their nuts! You know like the crazy Christians that run around blowing up abortion clinics. . . Simply because they don’t agree with a LEGAL procedure. Or the Crazy Christians who believe that Sponge Bob is promoting the gay ‘lifestyle.” It seems both groups have problems with cartoons. How about the crazy Christians who stage protest outside of the funerals for our troops. So being an extremist isn’t limited to the Muslim religion. I have total faith in God, therefore I don’t feel the need to run around and try to do his job for him. If having an abortion or being gay is wrong , I believe that the person will pay at the end of their life.
The only difference between Muslim extremist and Christian extremist is the Muslim extremist have killed more people. Both groups believe in forcing their beliefs on others. Both believe that women shouldn’t have control over their reproductive rights, and both use religion to create division. You have a nice day too.
Now you’re going too far with the “crazy Christians” bit. Keep in mind that you’re commenting on a Christian’s blog, so ease up on the ad hominem. By the way, I believe a woman’s reproductive “rights” begin when she decides to have sex, knowing where it may lead, and ends when she’s pregnant. At that point, a greater protection attaches to the unborn life inside her body. - Admin
My blog, my rules. If you can’t follow instructions, I suggest you move along to the other millions of blogs out there. - Admin
Btw, point of order here: Fred Phelps, the funeral crasher referred to above, is no more a Christian than was Karl Marx or Madalyn Murray O’Hair.
Why doesn’t anyone bring up the many, many other depictions of Muhammed that have been done in the past and present? Why riot now?
Mark,
I have asked that same question. The reason is not that depicting Mohammed upsets them it is the messege of the cartoons. Which in itself tells alot about the Islamic idea of tolerence and free speech ..
La Shawn,
Since it seems I pushed Ms. Rainlillie over the line let me apoligize. I really meant to point out why I felt her arguements were misplaced. I didn’t mean for it to degenerate into an unacceptable post war
#52
Because a lot of Middle Eastern governments are feeling the pressure from radical Islamist groups that claims the governments are too pro-west for Muslims to accept, the cartoons gave them the perfect opportunity to demonstrate that they still support Islam, and of course the fact that they thought it would be easy to bully a small country like Denmark, and if they could get Denmark to compromise their freedom of speech it would be a great first step for those who wants to enforce Islamic laws in Europe and the US.
“Is this “sanctimonious Christians†comment directed toward me, by any chance? - Admin”
Comment by Joe Peden — 02.24.06
No way, I’m talking about the extreme “turn the other cheek” Christians who do not recognize that the Islamofascists want to kill them and erase their whole religion, and rationalize their inaction by claiming some moral superiority attached to their lack of self defense, ending in their death. Imo, they are the same as the appeaser/surrenderist Liberals who wish to “tolerate” or “understand” the evil Islamofascists, gaining a false sense of their own moral worth by not defending themselves, while criticizing those who do defend them as though these defenders are the immoral ones. I say that both groups are thus sactimonious and also seem to worship death as the ultimate validator of their values.
I’m really sorry for the confusion. I was actually trying to not get personal [if the shoe fits, wear it], leaving me open for misinterpretation - though after I posted, it actually did cross my mind that you might think it was meant for you, given that it’s your blog, and so you might be the most sensitive to my vaguely referenced comment. But you are definitly not sanctimonious! Again, I’m sorry. It was my fault.
Here are a couple of things I find interesting:
Those cartoons were originally published last September and nobody said anything. Shortly thereafter they were published in EGYPT and nobody said anything. All of a sudden muslims are offended, rioting and killing all over the world. Anybody ever ask why? Well, the reason is that it’s a put up job. A couple of Danish imams took the cartoons plus a few really bad ones they made up, went on a trip and instigated the whole thing. Who knows what they’re trying to prove. One thing it proves to me is muslims are very easily led.
Another thing. Musllims are now saying their law not only forbids publishing likenesses of Mohammad but of all humans and animals. So should we stop that also? After all we don’t want to offend any muslims. Point is, should non-muslims be compelled to follow muslim law for fear of offending? Or just for fear?
Muslim double standard. They publish daily the most vile filthy cartoons you’ve ever seen about Jews. If they want others to respect their religion, they need to do the same.
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